How To Play a Divine Soul Sorcerer in Dungeon and Dragons 5e

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@natashasurvivallady8021
@natashasurvivallady8021 3 жыл бұрын
A Distant Inflict Wounds has always made me happy.
@Kuribohcoast
@Kuribohcoast 3 жыл бұрын
Chucking Inflict Wounds from 30ft away is one of the single most satisfying things in this game
@evanroach5025
@evanroach5025 3 жыл бұрын
Twinned Inflict Wounds, that's what im talking about
@neverendar1778
@neverendar1778 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanroach5025 can you twinned spell a spell that requires a melee attack?
@evanroach5025
@evanroach5025 3 жыл бұрын
@@neverendar1778 only requirements are having a Range other than Self, and being incapable of targetting more than one creature. So hell yeah, divine boxer is a go!
@MaSeshield
@MaSeshield 3 жыл бұрын
I just made s character and got to do this against an owlbear last session. Fun times
@macromondo8026
@macromondo8026 3 жыл бұрын
It is NOT an April Fool's joke people, our Dungeon Dudes Delve in nothing but FACTS AND WHOLESOMENESS for their community!
@zepaduse97
@zepaduse97 3 жыл бұрын
Thats something someone WOULD say on april’s fools
@jordanshumaker4412
@jordanshumaker4412 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just mention something that I didn't hear in the video about the importance of twin spell on a Divine Soul Sorcerer that makes reviving characters EVEN MORE important? When you twin revivify and raise dead etc etc, just like all other spells, you only consume the spell components once when you twin it. That 500gp diamond you found also gets double the value when you twin raise dead.
@maid_of_heart3261
@maid_of_heart3261 3 жыл бұрын
If you target a zealot barbarian with a twinned revival spell, would that still negate the material component?
@jordanshumaker4412
@jordanshumaker4412 3 жыл бұрын
@@maid_of_heart3261 I believe that would be up to the DM, but as written, I would interpret "sole effect" as if it meant if the spell is only restoring you to life and not someone else, so the material component would still apply.
@maid_of_heart3261
@maid_of_heart3261 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordanshumaker4412 Bit of a shame. But it's still cheaper than reviving both characters separately since you're using one spell slot instead of two
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 Жыл бұрын
My Favored Soul Sorcerer uses twinned Healing Word - upcast as needed - all the time. While you're not quite the heal- bot that a Cleric of Life is, it's enough to make a difference..
@calvinmyers5186
@calvinmyers5186 Жыл бұрын
15:10
@Miss-Alexis
@Miss-Alexis 3 жыл бұрын
It's easy to get overwhelmed with so many options, but always remember: Fireball will solve all the problems your other spells can't.
@iampierce7474
@iampierce7474 2 жыл бұрын
Just Fireball... Just Fireball.... JUST FIREBALL!!!!
@toustone2736
@toustone2736 2 жыл бұрын
With its best friend counterspell
@The_Gallowglass
@The_Gallowglass Жыл бұрын
To the people that ask why a sorcerer would be within melee range, I say...meet my white dragon draconic sorcerer shield dwarf with battleaxe/warhammer, army of agathys hueheueheuehue
@antondovydaitis2261
@antondovydaitis2261 9 ай бұрын
No! There is only Fireball!
@atomicbuttocks
@atomicbuttocks Ай бұрын
can fireball bring my father back 😢
@Hesauce
@Hesauce 3 жыл бұрын
Me, who is playing a Divine Soul/Celestial Warlock: Please don't be an April Fool's joke, please don't be an April Fool's joke
@Zarsla
@Zarsla 3 жыл бұрын
Same...like I'm playing a divine Soul sorcerer/celestial warlock too. And I'm hoping not an april fools joke too.
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg 3 жыл бұрын
Divine soul infernal warlock 🤟
@hammerhiem75
@hammerhiem75 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 5 levels deep into Celestial Warlock (Pact of the tome), 1 more level and I'm switching to Divine Soul Sorcerer
@karsten69
@karsten69 3 жыл бұрын
Could a Divine Soul make a Warlock pact with their Celestial parent?
@jamesbeernaerts1605
@jamesbeernaerts1605 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also playing a Celestial Warlock (Pact of Chain) Divine Soul Sorcerer!
@lrioje1
@lrioje1 3 жыл бұрын
I had two party members die to a remorrhaz in Storm King’s Thunder and I got to twin revivify them. The image in my head has always been epic and I want to get it commissioned one day.
@WinterPains
@WinterPains 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to know the image in your head.
@chrissimcock8943
@chrissimcock8943 3 жыл бұрын
Distant spell metamagic is amazing for the cleric spells that require touch. Being able to cast inflict wounds at 30 feet makes you feel like Darth Vader force choking enemies. Not to mention if someone goes down outside your range than a 120 ft healing word or a 30 ft cure wounds can keep you safe without having to wade into combat.
@lolbots686
@lolbots686 3 жыл бұрын
tbh if you wanna be darth vader go sorcerer/paladin
@kingkasdin9767
@kingkasdin9767 2 жыл бұрын
it's also good for bestow curse and contagion, 30 feet instead of touch, talk about a happy accident.
@franklutes7125
@franklutes7125 2 жыл бұрын
OMG I hadn't thought of that!
@UberHypnotoad
@UberHypnotoad Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I got distant spell and healing word and I can pop people back up from incredible distances. It’s amazingly powerful as a squishy healer hiding in the back.
@Jenan_Tahnik
@Jenan_Tahnik Жыл бұрын
I came here to essentially post this... Distant Spell is #1 on my Divine Soul Sorcerer's Metamagic Feat List! Wasn't even mentioned in the video.
@jacobrobinson884
@jacobrobinson884 3 жыл бұрын
Protector Aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer here, played in a Tier 4 oneshot recently. I don't think my DM, who I've been playing with for years, has ever hated me more than when I had 4th level Spiritual Weapon, a twinned Haste on the Monk and the Paladin (which made the boss miss no fewer than 5 attacks they would have hit on) and then Counterspelled a Circle of Death that was going to mince the whole party. Good times indeed.
@jjsquidbeard4831
@jjsquidbeard4831 3 жыл бұрын
In one of my campaigns, we kind of messed up our party composition, and didn't have a great healer. I originally chose the Draconic bloodline sorcerer subclass, but when it came time to level up, I talked with my DM about retraining my subclass (optional rule in TCoE), and we reflavored that my draconic scales and features actually came from Bahamut, and that this was revealed to my character in a dream sequence after we had a really tough encounter.
@Gilmore-Devoss
@Gilmore-Devoss 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else miss the little intro story they would do for the subclass guides?
@alexinfinite7142
@alexinfinite7142 3 жыл бұрын
I loved those interludes! Sets the tone so nicely
@devin5201
@devin5201 3 жыл бұрын
Dual cast Guiding Bolt is maybe the coolest visual ever.
@ultimatekie
@ultimatekie 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention two amazing high level spells for Divine Soul Sorcerers. Bestow Curse and Contagion are absolutely hilariously good on a Divine Soul Sorcerer. You can either use Distant metamagic to make the touch spells have a range of 30 feet, or you can use Heighten to make Bestow Curse a disadvantage save or suck spell (At higher levels non concentration spell too!). Not to mention if you get two really nasty enemies lined up next to one another you can even twin these spells to absolutely ruin those enemies day.
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 3 жыл бұрын
Heightened or twinned contagion, I'm here for it.
@DaMuetze
@DaMuetze 3 жыл бұрын
Playing a Divine Soul is so much fun. I had one who really was the dedicated Healer of the party. Barely any damage dealing spells, but all the heal spells and Distant Spell + Twinned Spell (we were only level 4 until the campaign unfortunately ended). Luckily my DM back then was very generous and gave us all some very specific magic items that were fitted for our characters. I had a ring that healed everybody around me for 1d6 whenever I used Sorcery Points... I miss these days ^^
@macfine
@macfine 3 жыл бұрын
Played a divine soul sorcerer tortle for a while. A hippy sort that encounter something in an ocean cave. And gained some powers. The signature being absorbing salt and water out of creatures by touch. (Inflict wounds). That can be a brutal spell twinned. And the divine favour is a big help on painful misses. Had inspiring leader as a feat. Would just hang out and tell stories.
@Albertosn3
@Albertosn3 3 жыл бұрын
You all thought it was an April Fools Day video but it was actually a reference to Holy Week
@maid_of_heart3261
@maid_of_heart3261 3 жыл бұрын
You thought I was an april fools video but it was me, DIO
@smaugsdeothecrusader9734
@smaugsdeothecrusader9734 3 жыл бұрын
You thought it was an April's Fools Day video, but it was me, Alpharius
@andresalvarado2019
@andresalvarado2019 3 жыл бұрын
DIVINE SOUL SORCERER LETS GOOO
@azmonbored3837
@azmonbored3837 3 жыл бұрын
I’m playing a warlock multiclasing as a divine soul sorcerer. Those extra spell slots and favored by the gods have been clutch in the campaign.
@lightning2034
@lightning2034 2 жыл бұрын
which patron are you using? I chose not to go meta and am picking the fiend
@azmonbored3837
@azmonbored3837 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightning2034 a homebrew celestial I have no idea who they are
@quoc-namnguyen6462
@quoc-namnguyen6462 2 жыл бұрын
COFFEELOCK-
@greenhawk3796
@greenhawk3796 3 жыл бұрын
I mixed divine soul with hexblade for for an archangel build. I also went Aasimar, and the RP is that he's inhabited by an archangel ala Supernatural style.
@theonlymatthew.l
@theonlymatthew.l 3 жыл бұрын
I mixed Divine Soul Sorcerer with Life Cleric. I mixed Hexblade with Shadow Sorcerer 👍
@felixrogers1295
@felixrogers1295 3 жыл бұрын
I mixed Divine Soul with a 2 level start in Paladin which gives me -Small Lay on Hands Pool -Martial Weapons and Heavy Armor -A Fighting Style -Access to some low level divine spells that can be prepared on a long rest to let my known spells breath -And most importantly I can smite using my larger amount of Sorcerer Spell Slots - Combine that raw smiting damage with things like booming blade, spiritual weapon, and spirit guardians and you have yourself a true warrior of the gods
@deathknizzle
@deathknizzle 2 жыл бұрын
@@theonlymatthew.l i am making a lvl 8, i was thinking of life cleric 1 and divine soul sorc 7. For the bonus to heals. How did you do it, how good did it feel?
@nathans.3618
@nathans.3618 2 жыл бұрын
Green Hawk, it's been a year. How did this build play out. I've been looking into making the same thing. I'm about to start my first game and was wondering if being in melee was working with the lower hp of the sorc. I've done my research but couldn't find anything on this particular MC. Do you have any tips to help? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
@greenhawk3796
@greenhawk3796 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathans.3618 i've only had the chance to play it in a handful of oneshots, but the key is to make sure you and your DM really know how your MC works, and what kind of nonsense you can do (like creating additional spell slots craziness). Make sure you also go sorc first for the constitution prof, make sure you take spells that dont have too much concentration and either immobilize enemies or enhance your weapon attacks/damage, and lastly make sure you know when to disengage. Make sure you take the pact weapon invocations, and if you dont get war caster, take the invocation that lets you have advantage on concentration. Dont fall for trap spells like hex (switch it out when you can, which is on level up i believe) and remember to focus on single target damage. Dont be afraid to eldritch smite on your first attack even if it doesnt crit. Personally i like taking spells for out of combat, and then burning the slots for smite or converting. You can become a sorta omnipotent being with spells such as detect thoughts, and zone of truth, while also being this mysterious wrath/mercy of god entity. I got a lil rambly, but hope this answered your question. Just remember what your intent is. You are a melee warrior enhanced by gods to do their bidding, use eldritch blast from a distance and let enemies come to you... and dont forget that with the right invocation/pact you can have pretty much any weapon, not just melee.
@TheZandaz
@TheZandaz 3 жыл бұрын
The Extended spell on Aid etc is a great way to make use of any leftover slots at the end of an adventuring day. Spirit Guardians note: if the enemies have a choice between stabbing you ad being torn to shreds by spirits, or stabbing your friend and not being torn to shreds by them, they probs won't go for you. So it's effective even if you're not in the very thick of combat.
@nathansmith9597
@nathansmith9597 Жыл бұрын
Late as hell but I was going to mention this! There's also Death Ward, Mage Armor (cast it on familiars and pets too!), etc. - between the two spell lists, you can effectively get extra spell slots. If the DM allows Gift of Alacrity spell, pick that up with Fey Touched, and give everyone a boost to initiative. This is also one easy way to translate the Elves' Trance feature (only 4 hours for a long rest) into a direct mechanical advantage, as you'll start adventuring with 12 hours of buffs. Take Inspiring Leader and you can deliver a ton of passive support to the whole party. There's a large opportunity cost due to limited spells known for Divine Soul, and you won't be able to apply all the buffs if you had a rough day of combat and had to use most of your slots, so I wouldn't say it is broken. But it is very strong.
@CyberColossus
@CyberColossus 3 жыл бұрын
One filthy combo I found was to Quicken Sunbeam, and then using that turns action to fire it again. Abit of DBZ beam action for one big turn 👌🏿
@BrummieRoader
@BrummieRoader 3 жыл бұрын
If you quicken a levelled spell, you can only cast cantrips with your action.
@CyberColossus
@CyberColossus 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrummieRoader incorrect my good man. Sunbeam says as an action you fire another beam, not recast the spell. The spell is concentration so I'm technically focused on it. I'm just firing it twice
@robertmacneish4470
@robertmacneish4470 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrummieRoader the only other SPELL you can cast on your turn is a cantrip with a casting time of 1 action. You can still use your action for anything else, like attacking (extra attacking) using a magic item, or using a special action granted by a spell like Sunbeam
@BrummieRoader
@BrummieRoader 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertmacneish4470 you're right, and that's awesome. Going on the list
@SamanthaVimes177
@SamanthaVimes177 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this wasn't an April Fools joke! I've been asking for this video for a year and I'm so happy with this end product! One thing not mentioned extensively is the pairing of distant spell metamagic and all of the touch spells. Being able to cast touch spells from a distance of 30ft or short range spells like healing word from much greater distances is potentially huge. Especially for campaigns with long sight lines such as a ocean campaign. Anyway loved the video!
@Kev_Lar
@Kev_Lar 3 жыл бұрын
For everyone looking for the April fool's joke, it's the dungeon dudes not mentioning twinned shield of faith for your fighter/barbarian.
@alexinfinite7142
@alexinfinite7142 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand? Are you not able to do that?
@BrummieRoader
@BrummieRoader 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexinfinite7142 you can. The problem is that the limited number of spells known, combined with the fact you can only concentrate on one thing at a time, means there's great spells you end up passing up. Often you can't afford to have redundant concentration option. At level one, the following are great twin options: Shield of Faith Guiding Bolt Healing Word Command Protection from Evil and Good Plus Bless is a killer concentration option. You'll want to have at least one, and possibly two, of Mage Armor/Shield/Absorb Elements. And sorcs in general will often have to give up their level one spells in order to get crucial options at higher levels. Before you get twin, Bless is probably the best thing to be concentrating on. From level five, most people will want to twin Haste, or cast Spirit Guardians. So I totally get DocFrost72 thinking it's brilliant, and the Dudes leaving it out. It's really tough.
@Kev_Lar
@Kev_Lar 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrummieRoader a fantastic write up. I just have a soft spot for a 20+ AC before 3rd level :)
@justicebrewing9449
@justicebrewing9449 3 жыл бұрын
How about twinned spiritual weapon :)
@codymarshall587
@codymarshall587 3 жыл бұрын
@@justicebrewing9449 wouldn't work, can affect more than one creature: twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/915691848273764352?lang=en
@thedemoking3873
@thedemoking3873 3 жыл бұрын
Platinum draconic angel, divine soul sorcerer with cleric domain spells/paladin of Bahamut, who is struggling between his divine and draconic side while training to become a champion of Bahamut, and has to keep his powers hidden or become targeted by the followers of Tiamat. Best damn character I've played so far, and its only been 5 sessions.
@DinkiDoggo
@DinkiDoggo 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds pretty metal, kang.
@samuelbroad11
@samuelbroad11 3 жыл бұрын
Playing a Tempest cleric Blue Dragonborn, lvl 6 so far, worships Bahamut, the eye of the storm. Simple righteous style but a blast. Go Go Bahamut!
@thedemoking3873
@thedemoking3873 3 жыл бұрын
Also having a blast playing him, I'm playing him as a kind of gentle giant character. He's very imposing in both figure and charisma, yet he's the most chill man most will ever meet to the point of having to throw a wis save whenever fighting against anything humanoid or hold back his magic even against evil. This lead to a fun situation of him scaring the life out of an entire clan of bandits, and then shooing them away from attacking a caravan.
@taelim6599
@taelim6599 2 жыл бұрын
What rulebook is the platinum draconic angel thing from? I want to read more about it, especially if there's a ruby draconic option as well
@thedemoking3873
@thedemoking3873 2 жыл бұрын
@@taelim6599 its homebrew
@JustinOfTheWild
@JustinOfTheWild 3 жыл бұрын
These types of videos are my favorite. I listen to a lot of Dungeon Dudes while I'm driving. I love where you talk about character concepts and how the class would work with the races. Excellent stuff you guys are putting out. Thank you!
@crimfan
@crimfan 3 жыл бұрын
The scroll possibilities of the Divine Soul are huge.
@pmgmsd
@pmgmsd 3 жыл бұрын
Care to explain?
@crimfan
@crimfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@pmgmsd "A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a mystical cipher. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any Material Components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. " So, presumably a Divine Soul caster could read scrolls from both Sorcerer and Cleric lists. This means that cleric spells that they may not want to take as one of their own personal spell list but which are useful in a pinch can be relegated to scrolls.
@RichardDurham
@RichardDurham 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point!
@5MrCarlson
@5MrCarlson 3 жыл бұрын
“Why on earth are your sorcerer within 15f of enemies?” Yeah, that is usually what my group keeps asking me 😊 That and “What the F… are you doing 30f in front of the barbarian???”
@andreacristiano5452
@andreacristiano5452 3 жыл бұрын
They told me the same. Then I cast inflict wounds at 2nd lvl and use my already present spiritual weapon for a grand total of 52 dage in 1 turn at lvl 5. They stopped asking
@nickm9102
@nickm9102 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand that. Not playing a Divine Soul in this campaign and currently lvl16 but I get the same thing until I point out AC21 (DM modified Staff of Power that is Artifact gives AC 13+ casting Mod (+6) then the +2 from Staff of Power ability.)... I just realized my go to is either Shocking Grasp or Firebolt, with Polymorph, Animate Objects, or Disintegrate being the leveled spell or a Fireball/lightening bolt from the staff. Other than being tied for Top AC and 2nd for HP why am I within 15 ft. of enemies?
@alexinfinite7142
@alexinfinite7142 3 жыл бұрын
The wizard in my group always finds himself face to face with the session's boss or big boss lol
@coffeeonmyfoot86
@coffeeonmyfoot86 3 жыл бұрын
Im technically a sorcerer too... Stone sorcerer-1, Forged Druid-17~ My beast forms have an AC of 19-21~ Lez go, the healer is 5ft infront of the boss😭😅
@nickm9102
@nickm9102 3 жыл бұрын
@@coffeeonmyfoot86 like the build. Personally, I look at it as you are the class you have the most levels in...unless your multiclass is Warlock or exceeds four levels. I have a Tempest Cleric that is simmilar (Cleric 17, Wizard 3) he began studying Wizards to deal with Halister, found a Staff of the Magi and recieved a copy of Halister's collected spellbooks so I have a Cleric with a spell book with all 1st and 2nd lvl Wizard spells, a Brass dragon Fimiliar (Pseudodragon) and to make it worth wile a headband of Intellect to help his 13 INT. I'm waiting for an Adventures League Epic to play him in as there are so few T4 games.
@user-et8eq4zi4w
@user-et8eq4zi4w 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of making a Lawful-Good Divine Soul Sorcerer sooner or later to become this soft boy with unironic and not silly optimistic views on life. I had backstory mostly done and the personality but I needed help on mechanical part because having both cleric and sorcerer spell list as well as tons of customization options is overwhelming. Thank you for this video, I'll use it as guideline to make both RP appealing and combat/mechanic potent character!
@VrikoLaka
@VrikoLaka 3 жыл бұрын
I actually asked for that in the Sorcerer's video, because i find it really hard to build a Divine Soul Character, and this video so far is meeting all my expectations :D Thanks!
@yannickdellaert1616
@yannickdellaert1616 3 жыл бұрын
One thing they didnt mention is that divine soul sorcerers are amazing support casters. Twinning shield of faith, casting aid and warding bond is really really great. Also being able to clear house with stuff like fireball make this my favourite way to play these sorcerers
@michaelt1154
@michaelt1154 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, love how you gave the outside examples with the cleric spells ✅
@Armphid
@Armphid 3 жыл бұрын
A deep dive into one of the sorcerer sub-classes I'm the most interested in. Terrific!
@tylerboswell7380
@tylerboswell7380 3 жыл бұрын
Was so stoked to see this! I'm playing a divine soul sorc/hex warlock, and it's super fun!!!
@Sylphina1
@Sylphina1 3 жыл бұрын
My Protector Aasimar celestial warlock/divine sorcerer laughes and blasts with eldritch lightning-explosions while buffing and healing while soaring in the sky
@pwng-yk3pz
@pwng-yk3pz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys as always! You gave me some ideas I wouldn't have thought of otherwise.
@junsonofjack3740
@junsonofjack3740 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I got a chance to see this. Thanks again Dudes!
@JimJim...
@JimJim... 3 жыл бұрын
Love these guys. Playing a Hexblade/DSsorcerer currently and was thoroughly helped
@johnmcfarland778
@johnmcfarland778 3 жыл бұрын
Omg! You both helped me so much to wrap my head around this sub-class which I normally passed by. I’m very interested in creating a mt. Dwarf sorcerer 🤙🏻
@rjspiteri5758
@rjspiteri5758 3 жыл бұрын
I play one (pre-Tasha's) He's not very optimized, but he's fun! Flying above the battlefield firing on enemies or using twinned Healing Word, while also having the durability to risk melee for a short time is nice. Noone expects the armored, axe-wielding dwarf to bust out scorching ray!
@hyydyke
@hyydyke 3 жыл бұрын
Actually playing Divine soul Sorcerer ( a little kiddo tiefling!) as my first character and it has been super fun! at lv 11 at the moment and each time I get new spell slots I need a week to decide what to pick, lol :'D Spoiled for choice! I've more or less been a swiss knife of the party with buffs and debuffs, as well as some healing (since we don't have a dedicated healer in the party). It's a subclass that I will definitely give another play in the future, there's so much potential to build a character around it.
@aswadshafinkhan8810
@aswadshafinkhan8810 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Really helped me make my divine soul sorcerer, and I'm having a lot of fun. Would love a "How to Play an Aberrant Mind Sorcerer"
@yespatrickstewartyes
@yespatrickstewartyes 3 жыл бұрын
The Transmuted Spell from Tasha's is also a great Metamagic for a Divine Soul. I'm playing Descent to Avernus now and the ability to take Fireball and transmute the damage to non-fire damage is amazing.
@dchauser4
@dchauser4 3 жыл бұрын
I'm playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer in a Tomb of Annihilation game right now. I took Distant Spell as one of my metamagics specifically so I could use Spare the Dying at range. So far it's been a lot of fun, especially with the interaction between my Divine Soul Aasimar and the Cleric.
@bigbabycraig3850
@bigbabycraig3850 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great timing! Building one right now for a campaign. Good stuff.
@jacobreichert6239
@jacobreichert6239 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me excited to play. I have a divine soul sorcerer ready to go for my brothers homebrew legend of Zelda campaign. Though we have home brewed the subclass to be more along the lines of the new Tasha sorcerer subclass and gives me bloodline spells
@Fektthis
@Fektthis 3 жыл бұрын
Divine Soul Tiefling Sorcerer... Or so he thought. Turns out he was actually descended from Malcanthet, Queen of the Succubi! That was such a fun character...
@JB-xl2jc
@JB-xl2jc 3 жыл бұрын
From divine to supine!
@funnyblog100
@funnyblog100 3 жыл бұрын
Well Asmodeus is a greater deity in dungeons and dragons. It isn’t out of the question.
@mikemckinney7031
@mikemckinney7031 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been thinking about playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer as my next character, now I've made up my mine.
@austinfunk8190
@austinfunk8190 3 жыл бұрын
Been playing a Divine Soul Sorcerer for a year and a half, currently level 14, came to check out what tricks I’ve been missing. Turns out, I’m killing it with Twin Healing Word and Heal, and extended spell Aid and Death Ward as my signature moves haha. Great advice throughout though, wish I’d rolled better so I could have more feats
@izunagi9064
@izunagi9064 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you i been hoping for this video!
@JohnSo
@JohnSo 2 жыл бұрын
You are very easy and fun to listen and you dispense wood wisdom. Thank you dudes!
@ChristnThms
@ChristnThms 3 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of the necro-sorc. I normally rank Sorcs dead last among casters. But that concept and the ability to pick up Hex really changes the class.
@rcschmidt668
@rcschmidt668 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... Spirit Guardians plus Empowered Spell sounds very tempting!
@majesticwizardcat
@majesticwizardcat 3 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite subclass, I had so much fun playing it
@phunwin1
@phunwin1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing a drow divine soul in Dungeon of the Mad Mage. The versatility the cleric spell list brings is just awesome, and I was glad to see them focus on that. Candidly, I feel like I'm still grappling with how to make the character more optimal (not perfectly optimal; I chose drow as opposed to something like Aasimar for RP reasons) so I appreciate the good tips here. The problem I've been facing is that I'm the party's only full caster, so I end up filling a LOT of roles: healer, blaster, and defensive magic. Took drow high magic as a feat so I could get levitate and dispel magic, plus detect magic on command. Twinning toll the dead has been an effective combat move. I haven't quite been able to make darkness work for me like I hoped I could though.
@MPLSVic
@MPLSVic 3 жыл бұрын
I love playing healers and the talker this is one of my favorite subclasses
@franklutes7125
@franklutes7125 2 жыл бұрын
Love you guys! Very helpful information.
@Mayham719
@Mayham719 Жыл бұрын
My Lightfoot Halfling Divine Soul Sorc. He is taking the lucky feat. The oldest child who has just been all around lucky. He really seems like he’s favored by the gods. Never recognizing how he gets everything he wants and life just works out for him.
@DigDoug56
@DigDoug56 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, I would request a similar one for the armorer Artificer that was just added for Tasha's. I'm going to be playing one soon and there is alot to look at. I liked how with this video you covered a subclass and talked about the options and how they synergized. Also I'm not finding nearly enough content out there about the Artificer in general, and what I can find is all old stuff before Tasha's.
@Nilandia
@Nilandia 3 жыл бұрын
Good video! I've played a divine soul from 3 to 13, and you hit most of the major points I'd cover. Nice idea with Spirit Guardians! I'm getting my wings next level and hadn't considered how that would interact with the spell. I'll have to look hard at that one. I agree that twin spell is incredibly potent with a divine soul, and not just in combat. For example, my character has changed the trajectory of a campaign with a well-placed twinned resurrection. They were NPC members of royal families from neighboring kingdoms whose deaths helped set off the events of the campaign. BBEG was trying to start a war between them. Since this is a campaign that's very heavy on the story, their return will definitely have far-reaching consequences, not just for the campaign arc but for society as a whole.
@Elle_De_Jour
@Elle_De_Jour 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to play as Necromancer (witch) who’s character backstory was based on seeking knowledge of resurrection so they could bring their loved ones who had burned at the stake, back from the dead. I had been considering multiclassing as a wizard/cleric as I’m greedy and wanted the arcane power of the wizards damage but the divine power of healing like the cleric, and had never even thought of Sorcerer until your video you made a few weeks ago ranking sorcerer subclasses and briefly discussing divine soul sorcerer! Since looking into it this is definitely the road to choose for my character as it has all the spell flavour I wanted for them that worked perfectly with their backstory.
@sunstar8782
@sunstar8782 2 жыл бұрын
Even if your just playing a cleric, picking up Metamagic Adapt and getting Twinned Spell with Distance or Extended Spell is a really strong option. Variant human for the win!
@Deafwing
@Deafwing 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god(s?), thank you! My prayers have been answered!
@circlepit4598
@circlepit4598 3 жыл бұрын
All your videos are on point!
@theonlymatthew.l
@theonlymatthew.l 3 жыл бұрын
I've been hoping to see this exact video from u Gentlemen... 👍
@YngolSonofYsgramor
@YngolSonofYsgramor 3 жыл бұрын
And I was looking into playing one soon. Awesome timing
@c_r123
@c_r123 3 жыл бұрын
for a feat to synergize even more with the cleric touch range spells would be ritual caster or magic initiate for access to the wizard spell list, which then lets you take find familiar. presto, your owl swoops to within 5 feet of your target, and you can now pass your touch spells into your target from the safety of 100 feet away.
@Morphineus
@Morphineus 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing a Divine Soul Sorc... it's awesome. If you want to add a bit of versatility to it, just dip into Cleric, you get the utility cantrips (Guidance, Thaumaturgy, Mending), you get to prepare some 1st level cleric spells and you can also get Heavy Armor Proficiency with some Domains, besides shields and other lighter armors. Flavour-wise, it also combines well with that divine connection.
@haydenrock8952
@haydenrock8952 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you guys mention that the Tasha’s race rules are optional, but it could be cool if you went into a bit more detail on interesting race options for those of us who aren’t using those optional rules.
@daniellins4114
@daniellins4114 3 жыл бұрын
Well they did mention aasimar, tiefling and half elf, as well as the dwarf with the optional rules. Honestly these would be my top picks even if they didn't say anything
@terrariaman2507
@terrariaman2507 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you not use the race rules?
@maid_of_heart3261
@maid_of_heart3261 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniellins4114 Yuan-ti is also a great option with the magic resistance and immunity to poison
@pda8987
@pda8987 3 жыл бұрын
​@@terrariaman2507 because tbh this rule is stupid. It is supposed to be like "there are not only dexterous elfs right here" but D&D already have system for that... called stat distribution and "Ability Score Increase". Stats are supposed to be universal scale between races, where for 10 (or zero in terms of modifier) is average adult human (or why human PC still have +1 to any because your adventurer is not average). And if you want to craft smart but clumsy elf - you just put points into int/wis and have low dex. Yes, you will have +2 mod to dex because you are the elf, but it is because even your PC being clumsy it is still being carried by being elf and having dexterous build from the genetics... Like different dog breeds...
@spondedphex198
@spondedphex198 3 жыл бұрын
@@pda8987 then just don't use the rule if you don't like it.
@jonathanmartin8716
@jonathanmartin8716 3 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video could never be better. :) And just multi-class my paladin and our next game is tomorrow. 🤗
@cubandarknez
@cubandarknez 3 жыл бұрын
really huge fan of spirit guardians. Great mileage with my divine soul sorcadin.
@visitmytent1906
@visitmytent1906 3 жыл бұрын
The best Option for a spell which got me into the idea of playing a divine soul is a twinned life transference. You still take 4d8 of dmg but you now heal 4 Times as much instead of twice, now that is what I call worth it.
@kazebaret
@kazebaret 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! Another video from the Dungeon Dudes! My drow Divine Soul Sorceress of Lolth thanks you very much for the advice! I think DS is an amazing support class: let's not forget Twinning Shield of Faith, Extending Mage Armor, but also Heightening Contagion is not bad at all... ok, the last one is not ver supportive...
@adamglenen734
@adamglenen734 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing a Changeling Divine Soul of the chaotic affinity. It is super fun and very flexible; last session I spent most of a combat in the midst of the melee, ACd up with Mage Armor and Haste on myself, Shillelagh (magic initiate feat) and green-flame blade, quickening Cure Wounds when someone went down and swinging away with two actions. Imitation gish? Maybe, but very satisfying
@Houster1000
@Houster1000 3 жыл бұрын
I waited for this greatly. So a great thanks for you dungeon dudes for another great video. I thought a ton about this great subclass which I had not yet a chance to play. I personally think the best metamagic for cleric spells is distant spell. Cause, the contenders are extend and twin right? So, extending aid? That's exciting? No it's not. Yeah so you can give a 3 players the ability to take another hit, without using resources, in the right circumstance. Not a big deal at all. Twin- Healing word- a spell for raising Ko'd people. The amount of times you have two party members down in the same mkment is small. It's a good use, no doubt, but niche. Death ward? A fine spell, but really- two of your party members got knocked out and now are on 1 hp. Casting something like hypnotic pattern or slow is much cheaper and will increase survivability by far. I do not really think there are good cleric spells to twin until heal and harm. Maybe sanctuary is interesting. That said, twin is a must because of polymorph/haste. Not because of divine spells. Distant spell take 3 spells to a whole new level(and costs 1 sorc point only)- Cure wounds- combined with beacon of hope, you can easily apply this hard applying spell and heal tons of hp- you are not always in touch range to a needing party member. Even without beacon of hope, this is good. But admittedly the worst use for distant. Inflict wounds- terrific. You can now apply from afar and to flying foes, a spell that scales greatly, and offers no saving throw but depends on hitting. Well divine souls are wonderful at sticking such spells- favored of the gods and seeking spell metamagic are great for it, not to mention empower spell that can increase damage. Also- no magic resistance, no legendary resistance. It's an underrated damage spell made fantastic with distant. Bestow curse- when added with range, it's an improved hold monster. Wis each turn like hold monster, but it does not go away after succeeding. And only 3rd level. Downside if 30ft range against 90ft range. I'll take it. It can be upped to 5th level(as hold monster) , to be non concentration! I think while these are not the most powerful options among the entire sorc-clr list, these are the most benefiting options fron applying metamagic to divine spells. So I would pick distant and twin for a divine soul, and then really have a hard time at 10th between seeking, empowered and subtle.
@LovestarVGC
@LovestarVGC 2 жыл бұрын
Multiclassing with 1 level dip in Order cleric makes this the best support in the game. Combining voice of authority with your meta magic is so fun and feels incredibly powerful. Start sorcerer for constitution save prof then take one level in order cleric. If you have a 14 dex you can have an 18 ac with scale mail and shield. Take shield spell and shocking grasp for a melee attack and you can survive anywhere on the battlefield
@NightAuracle
@NightAuracle 10 ай бұрын
I have a circle of the stars druid and took the meta magic feat with twin spell. That has come in clutch saving party members before. Chalice form + Healing spell of choice + Twin spell :)
@derekthomas2940
@derekthomas2940 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah, I was just thinking of playing a Divine Soul Sorc/Fiend Lock that's descended from Avernus and flavor it as divine and demonic sorcerer magic but I don't know much about DSS, but I love the Cleric so let's buckle up Dudes.
@ChasoGod
@ChasoGod 3 жыл бұрын
They should have given Divine Souls Sorcerers Bloodline Spells, but instead of a single list they can choose a Domain from the Cleric list and gain those spells. This represents which type of Deity favors the Sorcerer.
@toshomni9478
@toshomni9478 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I still find that the Divine Soul shines much more as a backup healer than as the main healer for a party, in which case you should probably just go Cleric or Druid.
@docnevyn5814
@docnevyn5814 3 жыл бұрын
extend spell plus spiritual weapon works quite well. also now on the cleric spell list with Tasha's: aura of vitality
@lordgaroro
@lordgaroro 2 жыл бұрын
distant spell metamagic is also super useful, as sorcerors are kinda squishy, so using spells like inflict wounds that have a range of touch, from 30 ft away is super useful
@GunnerM60
@GunnerM60 3 жыл бұрын
The Lore Bard in my group has Spirit Guardians. Oh man that spell has been clutch in several combat encounters especially when she up casts it and her dice roll really well in damage!
@alejandronaranjo117
@alejandronaranjo117 6 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks dungeon dudes.
@junsonofjack3740
@junsonofjack3740 3 жыл бұрын
I have a divine soul in mind as the base for a homebrew world so I am definitely saving this video! Zelda? I love Zelda!
@mavtube
@mavtube 3 жыл бұрын
yaaaasss more specific subclass build guides!!
@FolkenZero
@FolkenZero 3 жыл бұрын
Quicken Spell is incredible if you have access to Vampiric Touch, letting you hit twice with it on the first turn. Otherwise Glyph of Warding can be so potent, letting you stack up multiple spells that would normally require concentration such as a glyph of flying while twinning greater Invis on yourself and others.. Brutal!
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dungeon Dudes, great video! I love the Divine Soul Sorcerer! Just clarifying one thing here: I don't think Metamagic Adept works well with the Sorcerer. In the description of Sorcery Points it says "You can never have more sorcery points than shown on the table for your level". So I think these 2 extra points are wasted. Thank you for the video! I love it!
@genelearnsenglish4242
@genelearnsenglish4242 3 жыл бұрын
But the feat description says that: "You gain 2 sorcery points to spend on Metamagic (these points are added to any sorcery points you have from another source but can be used only on Metamagic)." Which overrides that rule.
@jimwolford7294
@jimwolford7294 3 жыл бұрын
There are two cleric spells that benefit greatly from Distant Spell: divine word, word of radiance. These are probably the only two area of effect spells whose area can be increased by distant spell.
@dndknower
@dndknower 2 жыл бұрын
(Touch spells...)
@sforce1412
@sforce1412 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to play a Fallen Aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer/Fiend Warlock! This video’s timing couldn’t be better
@lich1019
@lich1019 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the one where the patron and ancestor are having a custody battle?
@maid_of_heart3261
@maid_of_heart3261 3 жыл бұрын
@@lich1019 Plot twist: the patron is actually the parent and was just too worried that the sorcery wasn't enough to keep em safe
@lich1019
@lich1019 3 жыл бұрын
@@maid_of_heart3261 Fiend Patron is one parent and the other parent is a Celestial (Lets say an Angel) This explains the bloodline and the Patron made a deal with their child so that they to could help their child. Taking levels in either class is showing a preference to one parent. A battle of trying to win the child's favor ensues. DMs would love to mess with this.
@burgerchicken
@burgerchicken 3 жыл бұрын
I tried making one once, and wanted to do everything. Heal, blast, support. Made me lose interest in Sorcerers with their limited spells known, but now I know I could have specialized and probably enjoyed it more.
@Houster1000
@Houster1000 3 жыл бұрын
Sorcerers a fun puzzle, and makes great for themed characters. The new sorcs from tasha take that all away... You can have all spells in the world. A shame.
@PaulKer87
@PaulKer87 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on making a cross class oath of redemption paladin/divine soul sorcerer. So spirit guardians will most certainly be on my spell list.
@chloedarbyshire-brown2938
@chloedarbyshire-brown2938 3 жыл бұрын
I have been playing a divine soul Aasimar for the last 2 years. I'm level 12 right now with 10 in sorcerer, 1 in war cleric, and 1 in hexblade warlock. my character is leaning very heavily into the angel side of her heritage so she's all fire and brimstone, with heavy armour and melee combined with healing and long-ranged magic.
@shivanzombie262
@shivanzombie262 3 жыл бұрын
I played a Kobold Divine Soul Sorcerer who was a devout follower of Bahamut. The feat I took was Magic: Initiate Wizard to get find familiar. That let me deliver touch spells, as a lot of the healing spells are, at ranged with my flying scarab beetle.
@Oribobu
@Oribobu 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just missed the opportunity to showcase your spell lists at different levels, just like with the shadow sorcerer
@Houster1000
@Houster1000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wanted exactly the same
@nyxus007
@nyxus007 3 жыл бұрын
I'm playing a Oath of the Crown Paladin/Divine Soul Sorcerer. Twin Spell on Warding Bond is also a DELIGHT.
@MegaDasef
@MegaDasef 3 жыл бұрын
fun note, extended spell aura of vitality, which i've been doing on sorcadin for a while now(even mounted!) but now it's on cleric spell list thx to tasha's enjoy the sweet sweet healing.
@coolcatkc
@coolcatkc 3 жыл бұрын
I love the divine soul sorcerer, life cleric 1 divine soul sorcerer 19 gives you the armor you need to wade into the mix of things and be there to support your group. I actually did a girl cleric/sorcereress who was blessed by two divine being of similar alignment and their powers combined created an 'invincible' character as her defenses combined with the ability to spell blast spiritual weapon, spirit guardians and toll the dead in a series of turns overwhelmed most single boss type opponents.
@LordTonzilla
@LordTonzilla 3 жыл бұрын
The extended Aid idea is a great idea and will help me deal with the fact that I'm worried my sorcadin is going to have closer to sorcerer hp.
@garethnapier2253
@garethnapier2253 3 жыл бұрын
Sorcerers are my favourite class, and divine soul is my favourite subclass. I know you guys don't dip into dual classing in these vids, but may I suggest the single level of life domain cleric. You get added armour, extra spells, and a bonus to your healing spells. Thematic as hell.
@pep115
@pep115 3 жыл бұрын
I'm playing a divine soul sorcerer and it's amazing, I have to say it's not the strongest build, but I'm having the most fun I've ever had with a character for a long time. Also, twinned spell guiding bolt is op XD
@sasoridude807
@sasoridude807 3 жыл бұрын
Mine has a negative con and is also known as "The twink of Sarenrae" lol but he heals and hits like a truck, Twin Spell Guiding bolt and being able to Distant spell Cure Wounds has been a game changer.
@MietoK
@MietoK 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, starting within next month a new campaign where I plan on playing Divine soul. Lot of good tips with perfect timing :) (planning dragonborn divine soul of bahamut)
@MietoK
@MietoK 2 жыл бұрын
Went with Ghostwise divine soul and it has been a blast! Lot of struggling with spell list but we started with a lost mines and staff of defence opened up a lot of options.
@mikecarson7769
@mikecarson7769 3 жыл бұрын
nice review of a powerful but difficult subclass! so much potential for interpreting the character, and so many choices to make - - - - unrelated = was wondering about April Fool Day if you might go into "arcane trickster" or "trickery domain cleric"
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