How to Play an Effective Longest Road Strategy - Game Analysis

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DyLighted - Catan

DyLighted - Catan

4 жыл бұрын

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In the current heavy Ore Wheat Sheep meta, I go over how to effectively play the alterative win condition being the Longest Road.
The lessons learned in this video (As the Wood/Brick Player):
1. Cutting off an OWS player kills them
2. Feed Largest Army (Dev cards) to the dead OWS player
3. Buy Dev cards, if every Dev card is useful in the scenario. (But if you can get a strong city, do that first).
I hope you learn something!
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This was a custom match played with a group of competitive players. We were on a voice call while playing, so you could table talk and negotiate trades like a real game.
Sorry for the lack of uploads again! University has been super busy for me. The silver lining with Coronavirus is that it gives me a pretty good excuse to work on my videos at home! I'll try and upload a lot more this week to make up for my absence.
Stay safe everyone!
-DylLighted
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@verachoi9362
@verachoi9362 4 жыл бұрын
I thought a full game commentary would be boring but i watched 37 minutes straight, then finished the video the next morning. absolutely fantastic my dude
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Such kind words! I'm so glad my videos could be so entertaining!
@JohnSmithEx
@JohnSmithEx 4 жыл бұрын
Good game! I was afraid that the whole 48 min video would be dedicated at analyzing the possibilities for placing the initial settlements. 😃
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I hopefully won’t do that to y’all 😂
@JohnSmithEx
@JohnSmithEx 4 жыл бұрын
"hopefully": so that's a real danger, ha ha! O God save as all from coronavirus and the endless DylLighted's analysis. 😄 Just joking, please keep the videos coming. :-)
@kehana2908
@kehana2908 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan I watch enough of your videos that all of my friends really hate when I place a settlement, usually 5 minutes per settlement. Then I end up winning, which makes it all the more hilarious. One time they had to put a timer on my turn because I was taking too long. Great Video!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks y’all! I’ll try and be faster and more concise 😂
@kehana2908
@kehana2908 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan No no, keep it as long as you want!
@andyardueser5293
@andyardueser5293 4 жыл бұрын
This was my first competitive settlers video. Was pretty easy to follow, and I learned a lot :)
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm so glad it could help you!
@fosterloesch5583
@fosterloesch5583 4 жыл бұрын
This was incredible to watch. I loved every minute of it.
@unimportant4118
@unimportant4118 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos man. I only started playing catan universe a few weeks ago, but your videos really made me passionate about the strategy behind it. Admittedly I've been going Ore/Wheat/Sheep a lot, but I will be sure to practice this road strategy when I get the chance! Thanks so much, from a fan in Australia :)
@prahaladhnarayanan1277
@prahaladhnarayanan1277 3 жыл бұрын
Same here bruh. I always try for ore wheat sheep and don't know any other strategies.
@TheShamansQuestion
@TheShamansQuestion 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm DylLighted, and this is my masterclass"
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Hahah thanks! Appreciate it!
@sirvolders
@sirvolders 4 жыл бұрын
I have a game: take a shot every time Dyl says "I'm very afraid of red". You drunk yet? ;)
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’d drink myself to death
@joelpaley9912
@joelpaley9912 4 жыл бұрын
very comprehensive video on road players against OWS. learned a lot from this vid. thanks DylLighted!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Super glad to hear that!!! Go and take down the OWS players 😝
@fisher00769
@fisher00769 3 жыл бұрын
We used to play this game with friends, but I have always thought it was mostly luck more than anything (and tbf in our games it probably was, since none of us knew how to play properly). I never thought there would be so much strategy and thinking involved. Your videos are very interesting and also entertaining.
@dovecat
@dovecat 4 жыл бұрын
Never played this game so I don’t really know what’s going on but your vids are so interesting I’ve been watching anyways, lol. Keep up the good work man.
@Monkeyman12534
@Monkeyman12534 4 жыл бұрын
It's really fun. And about the best boardgame I can think of to get people to transition from thinking of and playing board games like, monopoly and sorry, to gloomhaven and scythe
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's crazy so many people are watching the game without knowing how to play it haha!
@jakemorales6958
@jakemorales6958 5 ай бұрын
Very thorough and insightful analysis!
@evelocz
@evelocz 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you say “I’m delighted” and I feel like responding by saying “no, I’m delighted! Thank you for your content”
@rvdvideografie
@rvdvideografie 3 жыл бұрын
nice! This is a perfect example that catan is not only a dice game. :) The way you outsmarted blue. my god!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words!
@mahdavimath22
@mahdavimath22 4 жыл бұрын
We need intro and exit music LOL-Great video!! Love the strategy talk. Thank you.
@leonelmasuello2914
@leonelmasuello2914 4 жыл бұрын
Your analysis videos are so good! You got my total attention when I read the title. "Road strategy? I wanna watch that!" The meta game is paying a lot of attention to OWS strategies, but it's always important to also consider a sneaky Longest road strategy to win. Also, considering the Brick numbers, I was curious with how would you get to that, but the numbers were really even. It would be cool to see another video of road strategy, but this time competing with another player with road strategy instead of 3 players with OWS strategy. Also, cutting blue early in the game was soooo crucial to your strategy. I've gotta start thinking more strategies like that one.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I feel that since I've made only OWS strategies, everyone thinks OWS is the only way to win. That's not true. The reason why I was successful in this game was because my brick numbers were split and low, therefore they never got blocked. I'll do my best to find a game where there's 2 WB and 2 OWS. Cutting OWS players off is essential! Being able to exploit your opponent's weaknesses is the key to winning the game. Thanks for watching!
@madbossdvs9364
@madbossdvs9364 4 жыл бұрын
Your a pretty cool dude and well collected. Good to see some actual well thought out game play. I love Catan and never was too good but maybe next time I sit down with friends I can be much better.
@haba_15
@haba_15 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video with some great advice, thank you
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great comment! I appreciate it!
@bradthomas7933
@bradthomas7933 2 жыл бұрын
Great game, very intuitive! Good to go over to keep it all in mind
@bastian8001
@bastian8001 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. I definitely learned something. Keep on!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you could get something from it. I'll do my best!
@rodrigocastro3410
@rodrigocastro3410 4 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! great vid
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! great comment
@donavynkulinich9464
@donavynkulinich9464 3 жыл бұрын
I bought 2 versions of catan because of this channel. Love it!! 10/10 greta help
@alexberry6672
@alexberry6672 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, keep up the fantastic work! Question on the placement strategy......... On Nekthen's second settlement placement you mentioned he could have gone on the 6,3,11, which I saw as a stronger placement than the 6,9,12 he ended up going on. Here is my reasoning: 1. He gets access to brick, which in this game is the rarest resource. Not to mention the only other person that has it is you and you are not likely to trade given you are racing him to the 5 wheat. (Which he should be aware of because red posted it in chat) 2. Which leads to my second point, since you committed your road down and to the left he can actually point his road up to go for the 6,9,12. A very strong (10 production) third settlement placement for an OWS player that gets him his last resource wood. 3. Alternatively if he wants to be less aggressive he can point his road left to the coast and settle on the 4,11 getting him the missing wood and a 3:1 port. (strongest port for OWS) 4. Again I devalue the wood significantly in this game, I think he actually has a pretty good chance trading for it with grey who you mentioned will be using it for port fuel and is not directly competing for any spots with blue. (especially if he decides to go on 6,3,11.) 5. Potentially he was trying to race to the 9 wood 3:1 with his 6,9,12 placement, but i think his chances are very low considering grey has free road and his priority is settling on 9,10. This leaves him with the 12 ore 2:1 sheep port which is IMO a much weaker expansion spot than the options I outlined above for the 6,3,11. Obviously there is a lot of opinion in these considerations and in this case blue is a target given the first settlement so maybe grey will be reluctant to trade. In that case..... given blue will have the most knights (along with red) I would be using those to offensively pluck a wood from grey or even bargain with him to move the knight if I can get a favorable trade from him. I am interested to hear your thoughts as I think your analysis is usually spot on. Thanks for the content as always! - Alex
@HaydenEccles
@HaydenEccles 3 жыл бұрын
Next level strategizing right here. Earned victory. 🏆
@Edwin-zk1en
@Edwin-zk1en 4 жыл бұрын
Instructive! Thanks for the lesson.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Edwin Amar Thanks for watching and learning!
@caesarlandoco7526
@caesarlandoco7526 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. I've heard insights in this one that you haven't done in other videos, such as trading for the "soon to be desired" material
@darinluckie8662
@darinluckie8662 4 жыл бұрын
I only started playing 3 days ago. You are awe-inspiring! Need to learn strategy cuz I suck at making calculated moves
@rajatsinghal5152
@rajatsinghal5152 4 жыл бұрын
Good job at containing red. Enjoy your videos. Good editing & narration
@ryanborn7026
@ryanborn7026 4 жыл бұрын
At the pause and place: I think the person who goes 4th always has two great advantages: 1) he always knows his resource pickup with the second settlement, 2) he is the only player who can 100% guarantee the relative positions of both of his settlements. I thought it's interesting because in your discussion, it took you pretty long to get around to thinking about the 9-6-5 in the north. For me, the two setups I thought of first were the 9-6-5 in the north and the 8-4-3 in the east. This gives you relatively clear access to two ports that for resources you'd have quite a few of -- sheeps and wood. The obvious problem is the terrible resource diversity, but naturally you'd have the ports and very high producing spots. This, to me, "guarantees" wheat based on the port placement. The other set up was the 9-6-5 in the north and the 4-3-8 in the west, since that gives you a free road, access to brick and ore. Since I didn't play, I don't ultimately know what I'd have decided :pppp edit: I like your ultimate setup alot, since I didn't think about just removing the 9-6-5 in the north, and the resource/number spread is solid
@seyonsathiyananthan9459
@seyonsathiyananthan9459 4 жыл бұрын
Nice high level game analysis!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I appreciate you watching my videos.
@tits_mcgee1510
@tits_mcgee1510 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! I'm just picturing me doing this strategy and the 3 and 11 never hitting so I don't have roads lol
@bernhardkaliszuk2719
@bernhardkaliszuk2719 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Feel free to keep the videos coming! :)
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
I will do my best!
@starhalv2427
@starhalv2427 3 жыл бұрын
8/4/3 and 6/9/5. This position creates a lot of sheep and wood, with easy access to wood and sheep ports, but it's risky, because you don't have all the resources needed to build a lot of roads, so you need to trade with other players.
@tonyfung_
@tonyfung_ 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was really helpful and jam-packed with information! Amazing job with sharing your thoughts out loud and explaining why players did or didn't do certain actions. Keep it up!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I do my best to not only show my thought process but other people's too. I'll do my best to make more!
@dancebenny
@dancebenny 4 жыл бұрын
gosh darnit I love your content so much
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Dance Thank you! ❤️❤️🥰
@matiyah
@matiyah 3 жыл бұрын
I watch this dude's videos on 1.25x, still pretty easy to follow. Thanks for the amazing content!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Love that efficiency
@robertwooley87
@robertwooley87 4 жыл бұрын
@Dylighted at 43:00 one reason to also port for wheat is because even if he doesn't have knight, you hit the 5 you can trade in. So either he moves knight to wheat and you already have it or you hit the 5 and trade in. Can get city in either scenario. Great game.
@mrbballer09
@mrbballer09 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! Do you happen to have the counter to this video - how to be a really good OWS player? I've been binging your videos haha amazing quality, analysis, and logic.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think on my channel in general there’s a lot of good examples of how to play OWS.
@Skarpo89
@Skarpo89 4 жыл бұрын
Niice, I didn't know how to try and counter an ows player, now I know, gotta pay attention the next time I'm road.
@benjaminjohnson8377
@benjaminjohnson8377 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Dyl, always good to see your name come up on my KZfaq notifications 😊
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for always leaving kind comments! I'm always glad to see you in the comment section!
@benjaminjohnson8377
@benjaminjohnson8377 4 жыл бұрын
DylLighted - Catan I only say it because it’s true! I’m still crying inside about the old music at the end 😭
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminjohnson8377 Thanks again. About the old music, I'm also crushed I had to change it. Hopefully the new music is on its level!
@benjaminjohnson8377
@benjaminjohnson8377 4 жыл бұрын
DylLighted - Catan I haven’t listened to the full song yet, what’s it called? Ah right, well we don’t want you getting in trouble over it!
@jc-cp9te
@jc-cp9te 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know how I ended up here but If i ever get to play settlers of catan with my cousins again im busting out all the strategies. Been loving the vids !!
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Do it! I hope you crush them! After that refer them to my videos :).
@JosephHolschuh
@JosephHolschuh 3 жыл бұрын
I want someone to love me like DylLighted loves YoungNaijah
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
You are loved. Thanks for always watching! But indeed, YoungNaijah is very close to me.
@tuvshinzayaamarzaya8238
@tuvshinzayaamarzaya8238 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I am so glad you have steam content too, I tried so many times to get into the colonist version since they have more players and tournaments, but their visuals are just too hard to look at for a prolonged time
@0xluizs
@0xluizs 3 жыл бұрын
Great content.. I am getting consistent wins with ows but I wanted to learn this strategy in case I dont have an option
@rasmuswhitehorn5240
@rasmuswhitehorn5240 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't been using neither the blocking or monopoly method while playing Catan. My family will never see it coming >:)
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Good Luck! Let me know how you do!
@888ian2
@888ian2 4 жыл бұрын
What are those?
@kristianberget6511
@kristianberget6511 4 жыл бұрын
@@888ian2 the dirty monopoly trick is to trade away a resource that you monopoize on the same round. Basically you can trade away three wheat for one ore and then monopolize the wheat back on the same round for example.
@mohammadjadallah9813
@mohammadjadallah9813 3 жыл бұрын
Woahhhh I predicted those 2 spots to be the most viable!!! I feel so proud of myself lol.
@liorobinson3713
@liorobinson3713 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Love your vids man Do you ever play seafarers/ cities and knights?
@joecamerer2865
@joecamerer2865 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I can only do one LIKE on this video. It was great, the analysis on every play was really insightful. I would of made the mistake of going with the 5/9/6 headed to the 10 wheat and I would of got cut off. Going for the 5 wheat with your road building capabilities was much better. Realizing that Blue was basically a dead player even if he got biggest army was really smart. Can you make a video every day to keep us entertained while the world is shut down???
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'll try my best haha. Videos take me hours and hours to do! I value quality over quantity.
@davidgeorge6253
@davidgeorge6253 4 жыл бұрын
Hey DyLighted, love the videos, especially showing Longest Road this time. Great information and fun. I do have a question about your logic at 43:22, saying you don't want to steal from the leader who's got 8 cards, because a 7 might be rolled next. I'm not sure the straight math supports this idea. If you steal, they lose 1 (random) card 100% of the time, if you don't steal they lose 4 (chosen) cards 1/6 of the time, or the equivalent of only 4/6 of a card. Ignoring the fact that it's random vs. chosen, they're still losing more card value (1 vs 4/6) if you steal. Now three other things may come into the thinking: (1) You do get a guaranteed full card value from Grey, hurting him, who in this game was probably less than 12% threat to win; and (2) if there's multiple rounds before Red plays there's multiple chances of 7's being rolled, but the odds in this case probably also support more chances of rolling a 3/4/8/10/11 (effectively putting Red back at 8, or above); and finally (3) perhaps the value lost from going from 8 to 4 cards is more than 4 times worse than going from 8 to 7, because they're usually some play to make with 5 or 6 or 7 cards. I know it's a bit statistical and nerdy, but that's my view. I'm curious about your thoughts....
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the discussion. At the end of the day, I'm not a mathematician. I'm just a person who has a ton of passion for this game. Here are my thoughts though - You sort of pull your number from thin air. Every scenario is different. You can't equate taking away their supercritical resource, nor getting a rare resource also. You can't equate how "useful" their hand either as it changes per scenario. In summary, I don't know. Perhaps one day there will be Catan solvers that will tell us the answer. Until now, I try my best to make optimal decisions based on good logic and reasoning.
@davidgeorge6253
@davidgeorge6253 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DyLightedCatan Thanks again for the videos and for responding. The only number I pulled out of thin air was the
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly the different maps was a glitch. The “free match” is supposed to be the same board over and over, but the developers had an error in the code which allowed it to be random. They now patched that glitch out.
@davidgeorge6253
@davidgeorge6253 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan So even if you pay money, you still get duplicated maps? That's so lame...
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
No. If you pay money, then you unlock random maps with the ability to play with 4 people. If you use the temporary currency like scrolls, you unlock that for 24 hours.
@kosatuner
@kosatuner 4 жыл бұрын
nice one man
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Jupiter1423
@Jupiter1423 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. Youre really good at catan...
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks I guess.
@AlexeysCarcassonneChannel
@AlexeysCarcassonneChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I only now discovered this wonderful channel. On this board, what do you think of the 8-4-3 wheat + 6-9-12 setup? It closes off 5-6-9, and there is access to a sheep port. Or do I overestimate the value of that port?
@gaurabhsinghvi5445
@gaurabhsinghvi5445 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Just a question.. While cutting off blue for the wheat port, you relied on no trades with blue.. what would your plan B be if some other player decided to give it to him? Asking this because a lot of new to Catan players do crazy trades.
@joshuatolan3113
@joshuatolan3113 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and love them! But my family plays C&K a lot, do these same strategies apply?
@goatedonthedotes8324
@goatedonthedotes8324 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I started playing catan again online recently and after discovering your videos last night, i may have played catan till 5am this morning. How would you adapt your gameplay if you have a reputation among friends as being the good player and you ALWAYS get every robber and every card stolen from you? Do you go the Ore/wheat sheep route, or roads? 4 player game btw
@benioneill8812
@benioneill8812 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say go ows if it's a viable strategy that specific game. it's in general better than road, but most importantly it incentivizes you to get knights for biggest army. That way you can use the knights to protect your resources from the robber, also being able to steal back what others may take away. lastly cities will help you keep production up and mitigate the effects of theft. On the other hand cities do invite the robber. But that's what your knights are for! Either way, the cool thing about Catan is that it may be more useful to throw all this logic out the window cause it's just stronger and increases your chances going for road, in that specific game. there is no one strategy that is always above the others. the game invites you to diversify strategy for consistent winning, which is awesome! hope this insight was helpful, I'm no expert myself heh ;P have fun and kick your friends' asses if they try to gang up on you >:)
@findbar2424
@findbar2424 3 жыл бұрын
I love how every catan streamer makes this game looks complex and cerebral.
@hanniyah7269
@hanniyah7269 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Question: why did to choose to hold on to your road building card towards the end? Were you waiting till you had enough resources to build a settlement with the road card on the same turn?
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 4 жыл бұрын
I'd have as a fourth player selected: 843 wood-brick-ore (fifth) and 843 sheep-sheep-wheat, building a road right away and going for the 3:1 ore port, then building a road to 1154 and placing a city there and using my excess ore to city up, trading if necessary my sheep surplus for wheat.
@eviltables7235
@eviltables7235 4 жыл бұрын
For the starting position, what would your take be on 843 and 962 with a road pointing towards the ore port?
@blueplayer6197
@blueplayer6197 4 жыл бұрын
So looking at this board I see a very fun looking gambit 843 double sheep into 596 with road toward 12,9 with a goal of achieving sheep port and possibly wood port on the other side, lacking clay will hinder the start but most should struggle at first on this board, it does however give a decent chance to swap 4 sheep or woods for clay early and later on have easy resources, do need the other players to struggle a bit at first but that's fine all clay spots are bad and we are limiting sheep and wood harshly, profitable trades should be possible while marching toward the ports and victory
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I already answered a comment similar to this one but I think that’s way too slow and you won’t get enough brick to build 2 roads and a settlement with 0 brick production. I do like the creativity though!
@robert3967
@robert3967 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the online catan game would give double allotted time for initial placement... they could shorten allotted time for turns after that to balance it.
@mikewilliams7143
@mikewilliams7143 3 жыл бұрын
For your 4th settlement at 30:11 I wonder if you would reconsider taking the 6/3/11 instead of the 8 ore 3:1 port for 4 reasons. 1.) Ports are only useful if you have the production to use them. The higher sheep production is needed for the 3:1 to be utilized. As the road player still saving for their city, what other resource could be more ideal to start porting beside sheep. Your production would have almost doubled (9:5) when compared to the 8 ore, and the resource you are looking to port would have increased by 6 points. You still would have had the ability to build a city on your next rotation, without trading (if you wanted), using your sheep 4:1 instead of your wood 3:1 (saving your road material). 2.) The additional sheep have trade value because blue can use the 2:1 port for more dev cards with them. 3.)It is much harder to block you because your producing so much all over the board now. Red will block the 8 ore unless blue can defend.. but if not, you still have production in other areas that will allow you to keep your game progressing to get the 3:1 port as your 5th settlement. 4.) You would have also evened out your wood/brick ratio as the road player You played a great game! But I think you could have won in less moves :) Im curious what you think. I would really enjoy playing you one day. Keep up the great content.
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 3 жыл бұрын
I have won without wheat, but only if I had a good resource port (for the resources I am likely to get) AND good luck.
@SerbAtheist
@SerbAtheist 4 жыл бұрын
Before unpausing: 4. position: I'm going with 843 and 6511 (free road) with my next goal being the 8 3:1 port and 6912.
@andrewm1167
@andrewm1167 3 жыл бұрын
Between my friends and family we limit table talk. It would be crazy if we pointed out obvious strategies to other players 😅
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool! I always love listening to people’s different house rules!
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 4 жыл бұрын
I would have just straight up put a starting settlement on the 9 10 3:1 and another on the 6 3 11, pointing both roads left. Only a 16 point start and this might be the fatal flaw in this idea, but it would give me pretty much the resource composition I want for roads _and_ settlements, letting me freely expand to the west since nobody will put starting settlements on so low producing corners and since I'm intentionally leaving two extra spots open that my opponents will happily take to leave me settle in peace. The 13-pointer is just 8 Wood and 5 Sheep on a map with low Bricks and Wheat, and basically nonexistent Wood and Sheep harbours. Since I have the only good woodless Bricks and am cutting off Grey from the 3:1, anyone who takes the surplus of Wood won't get that much more use from it than from a 5-point Wood... that said I haven't played a game in ages and never in a ranked ladder, so I'm probably just falling for a noob trap
@paulmullins3353
@paulmullins3353 3 жыл бұрын
So, totally new... about to play my first game. LOL. But you could have monopolized brick which had a low probability overall. Is this a strategy? Or do the wheat/ore people just eat you up?
@Blahrangersko
@Blahrangersko 3 жыл бұрын
hello great vid, but if you could add like arrows or circles for areas you'retalking about it'd be great
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Of course! In my newer videos, I have added them all in.
@superskystar1187
@superskystar1187 3 жыл бұрын
I would probably do the 6 9 5 and 8 4 3 Hoping that you get both the ports
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
That’s also a strong alternative!
@piechum3527
@piechum3527 3 жыл бұрын
I thought as 4th position: There are two really good sheep spots (the 6 and 8) what if you go for the sheep port?
@houmamkitet9555
@houmamkitet9555 4 жыл бұрын
Serious question: what do you mean by current meta, is there any part of the game that is changing which causes meta changes ?
@triffnix
@triffnix 4 жыл бұрын
The game does not change. However, what I gather from these videos, is that the mindset on different playstyles may change over time, depending on how regularly these playstyles are executed successfully. It seems to me that in this OWS meta, a lot of players tend to know how to win with that strategy, while Wood/Brick is not as well represented (because most players aren't proficient with that playstyle). To get Wood/Brick into the meta, the players would have to learn how to counter OWS players with that playstyle and win with longest road - leaving the OWS playstyle out of meta.
@houmamkitet9555
@houmamkitet9555 4 жыл бұрын
@@triffnix very cool thank you
@gaewsin8708
@gaewsin8708 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about 5,6,9 and 3,4,8 aiming for the wood and sheep port?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a great thought in theory. I thought of this too but didn’t say it in my video. The flaw of the setup I see is that everyone wants bricks on this board. The port strategy can really only be utilized once you reach a port. Getting your bricks are going to be very difficult. It is going to require a lot of 4:1’s. If you’re going to the sheep port first, that’s 4 bricks required!! That’s a ton! If I was to play that setup I’d go to the wood port first, then go to the 3:1 port on the 8 sheep. The sheep port is too far away. I like the setup, but think there are better options. I think the start may just be too slow.
@joshlandgraf5843
@joshlandgraf5843 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting game! Just curious-why use the road building+settlement on the 5/2 instead of building on the 11/6/3 first since you have the 3:1 port? Thanks for making these vids btw
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome question. I wanted to potential to be able to roll an 8 and 5 to get a city. Wheat is my most lacking resource, and the 5 wheat is defended by the OWS player. 6/3/11 still very strong though.
@joshlandgraf5843
@joshlandgraf5843 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan Thanks! Definitely a choice between looking for consistent port fuel or looking for combo rolls to accelerate. I'll look to add these decisions to my game!
@josephcoon5809
@josephcoon5809 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video. Critique: do you leave the screen switches in on purpose? It’s quite distracting, and I imagine they wouldn’t be too difficult to remove during editing.
@lizmenard6359
@lizmenard6359 2 жыл бұрын
Hey which expansions or collection did you buy I love Catan one of my favorite game f all rime I would like to play with you
@Bhuyakasha
@Bhuyakasha 4 жыл бұрын
What about starting on the 9/10 port and the 6/5/11? Thats what i thought of, but it might lock you out of ore.
@amerikiwi7878
@amerikiwi7878 4 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why at 41:00 you decided not to build on the 6 3 11? It has such high production, and it seems unlikely that anyone would have taken away the possibility of building on the 5 2. P. S. Enjoyed the video and commentary.
@nicbug4861
@nicbug4861 3 жыл бұрын
2:56 take 5/9/6 then 3/4/8 for free road. all resources. go with the free road to 9/10 coast port
@leonelmasuello2914
@leonelmasuello2914 4 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on doing videos about Cities and knights, Seafarers or other expansions in the future?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking! I don't have any plans on doing C&K and Seafarers. I haven't really had much experience and focus mostly on the base game.
@leonelmasuello2914
@leonelmasuello2914 4 жыл бұрын
That's perfectly fine. Better to focus on one thing and master it. Keep up the great quality.
@weckar
@weckar 3 жыл бұрын
How come the desert never seems to end up in the second ring?
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 2 жыл бұрын
I really think Red screwed up with that city. Placing one that early placed a target on their back that lasted the entire game. Eventually the robber was just going to switch between the two ore spots, but it might have been put off for a while.
@my2cents265
@my2cents265 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder why Blue didn't take that brick deal from red. They just got the wood from the 9 roll and would have had the road for the 5 wheat to keep their port alive
@mannynagelify
@mannynagelify 3 жыл бұрын
what do you think your strategy would have been had you not been able to get to the 5 wheat?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. Probably just trade for wheat and port my cards for wheat. I didn't actually get that much wheat from the 5 wheat.
@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou
@WhatYourPastorDidntTellYou 3 жыл бұрын
Why are 3 for 1’s so valuable? It’s usually easy to get 2 for 1’s when I play or are 3 for 1’s important when nobody wants to trade?
@cadespaulding3837
@cadespaulding3837 4 жыл бұрын
is there a strategy of not being to strong to not be blocked
@DeathlyDiJ
@DeathlyDiJ 3 жыл бұрын
30:20 but doesn't the 3 6 11 increase your production by so much that the chance of trading 4:1 becomes higher then the chance to use the 3:1 port? ofcourse the risk of 7 still makes it a more equal/even decision, but i would have still taken it over the port.
@Android_Steed
@Android_Steed 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a terrible player, buy the guys I usually play with are a decent bit better than me and I tend to make mistakes often. Do you have any helpful videos for beginners?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
I think everything I say can be applied to a beginner. Just always ask yourself when watching my videos, what would I do and why? Then see what DylLighted does and listen to the explanation. As you keep on doing this, you'll improve.
@thefabulousplatypus8956
@thefabulousplatypus8956 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid thanks. I'm a new player. But lol lots of things are terrifying. For me velociraptors are terrifying. Pretty much not too worried about card games. 😂 Card games don't hunt in packs.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
I hear sometimes sheep hunt in packs
@8hei
@8hei 4 жыл бұрын
see you next month bro B)
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Hopefully I can see you next week! I will try and post more!
@8hei
@8hei 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan Another benefit to placing on the 8/4/3 is that the placement draws even more attention to the 8 ore as a target for the robber. This initially slows blue's game a lot more than yours.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Well said! It will be blocked but people don’t steal from you!
@bernhardkaliszuk2719
@bernhardkaliszuk2719 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan Considered streaming?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
@@bernhardkaliszuk2719 I have! There are videos of me playing live.
@mattherzberg991
@mattherzberg991 4 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis and videos. I really don't think building on the 8 ore / port is correct. Yes the production is "useless" but I think you would have had some favorable trades. You can also trade 4 resources in to the bank that is still a factor even though it's difficult
@mattherzberg991
@mattherzberg991 4 жыл бұрын
Referring to the 8 ore over the 6/3/11 settlement
@TerraBort
@TerraBort 4 жыл бұрын
45:07 Couldn't you 2:1 wheat for sheep and go for a dev card or have you assumed all +1VPs are taken?
@travisleblanc3456
@travisleblanc3456 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what platform this was played on? It looks very smooth
@baseballcdc5426
@baseballcdc5426 4 жыл бұрын
The online platform is Catan Universe (www.catanuniverse.com), not sure what physical platform DylLighted plays on.
@Eljay_Kay
@Eljay_Kay 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Tabletop simulator to me
@dandavidson4717
@dandavidson4717 4 жыл бұрын
That's definitely Catan Universe, but I can't tell on what system. It's not Tabletop Simulator, though.
@Eljay_Kay
@Eljay_Kay 4 жыл бұрын
@@dandavidson4717 Yeah I checked out Catan Universe and that's what it is. My bad.
@nathansered4798
@nathansered4798 3 жыл бұрын
45:11 Why not port your wheat and buy a card to get a point and maybe win?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
You usually only want to pull for the win if you’re in a rush to win because someone else is going to win. In this case I wasn’t in danger of someone else winning and holding for a city is guaranteed a victory.
@CollinWills
@CollinWills 4 жыл бұрын
31:40 why do you do 3:1 wheat? don't you have 2:1 wheat port?
@elchipotle623
@elchipotle623 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised nobody answered you by now, but the 2:1 wheat port means you can trade 2 wheat for 1 other resource, not 2 others for 1 wheat. The 2:1 ports = outgoing exchange value.
@uncleowen8011
@uncleowen8011 3 жыл бұрын
I watched all 48 minutes.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Owen! I just released another video and hopefully you’ll enjoy that one too!
@ronniehudson6044
@ronniehudson6044 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what you mean when you say a spot has 13 points? Or any amount of points? How is this calculated?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the amount of “pips” (the dots on the number) from a single spot. The the 5-6-9 has 13 total “pips.” I hope that helps.
@ronniehudson6044
@ronniehudson6044 3 жыл бұрын
DylLighted - Catan I never noticed those dots. So the higher the PiP count, the more profitable the spot?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Yep!
@l.a.171
@l.a.171 4 жыл бұрын
You make nice Videos, not much to add to that 😉
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
You make nice comments. I appreciate that!
@l.a.171
@l.a.171 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan Awww, sadly I can only write you a heart. 😘💖 😂
@Vinnizzz
@Vinnizzz 3 жыл бұрын
Which Catan app/website is this?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 3 жыл бұрын
This site is called Catan Universe.
@mythwar3788
@mythwar3788 2 жыл бұрын
when i try to make trades online like you they refuse lol X:D
@solidboogers
@solidboogers 4 жыл бұрын
At 29:45 you probably should have blocked the 10 wheat knowing that no one had wheat.
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree! The ore has 2 cities on it and higher producing compared to the 10 wheat. In addition, I need to trade for a wheat to build a settlement. If I block the wheat, then I won't be getting any trades for it. Furthermore, if I block the ore, then the ore becomes more valuable and I can trade it away for wheat.
@noobkiller1229
@noobkiller1229 4 жыл бұрын
why exactly do you need to remember what cards they have, could you not just note in on a sheet of paper?
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
It takes too long! Instead I can just remember in my head.
@noobkiller1229
@noobkiller1229 4 жыл бұрын
@@DyLightedCatan thanks for the fast answer :) Do you know if some players write it down? when I played casually I never thought about it, but now i see the competitive side i think about how easy it is to make a table ^^
@DyLightedCatan
@DyLightedCatan 4 жыл бұрын
Noobkiller While true, it takes too long and the robber mixes it up.
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