How To Restore Rusty Bolts And Stop Them Rusting Again

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@nigelbarton8350 2 жыл бұрын

Love the oil quenching effect Martin. My only advice would be put the oil in a tin rather than a plastic container. If you drop tHe hot bolt in, it burns clean through and makes a hell of a mess- ask me how I know 😁

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Yes Nige I was aware of that but didn't have a tim for the demo.

@northernowl7087 2 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore there’s always one that knows better with a name like Nigel he must be a health and safety officer probably married to a KAREN 🤓🤓🤓

@MrJozza65 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us the technique. How about leaving those 3 bolts outside for a while and see which ones rust first (If they rust at all) ?

@euan2516 2 жыл бұрын

Will give this a go next time, usually just wire wheeled them in the drill press but your results are much better once again thanks for sharing Martin 👍

@sixandtwothrees 2 жыл бұрын

Linseed oil is the one traditionally used for hot quenching. Smells better, too!

@jasonguiliano2638 9 ай бұрын

Listed oil left on a cloth for about 3 hours combusts. BEWARE!!!

@nascarisawesome5018 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot mate. Been working on my bike and couldn't find some new bolts, so I used some your tricks.

@larsfrandsen2501 2 жыл бұрын

Love your channel, mate! Lots of good tips for restoring motorcycles and such. Also love the reviews of stuff from my childhood. Thanks!

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@ssmith9008 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mart, been looking forward to a video like this, would like to see more vids like this, like repairing threads, how to deal with snapped bolts ect.....all the fun stuff lol

@chasmcl42 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that was good Martin, a must for anyone doing restoring.👍

@alandykes2519 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job Martin thanks for the tip on the preserving the bolts 👍👍👍👍

@vazza7504 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, again. Deffo on shopping list is a rock tumbler, 👍👍 great results on the hot bolt in oil too. Looking forward to that yamaha resto. Can't wait to hear a good old two stroke running again. ❤️❤️❤️ This channel. 👍👍👍

@vijayantgovender2045 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Martin enjoy watching your videos I am watching from South Africa

@martinburgess4814 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip Martin'all the best to you all.keep em rolling rolling

@jamesreeve9037 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Martin nice tip for old machinery restorations...

@Couldntthinkof1gudenuff 2 жыл бұрын

Love these videos Martin 👌🏻

@ScottiDaniel 2 жыл бұрын

That really worked a treat, bolts look brand new, glad stickers and keyring arrived 👍

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scotti👍

@ROLYTHETAXI 2 жыл бұрын

Another brilliant lesson to us all. Thanks Martin x

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@bendude6748 2 жыл бұрын

That’s actually a really nice idea I’ll give it a go next time.

@125sm3 2 жыл бұрын

Great demonstration Martin

@garyclifton2180 2 жыл бұрын

Look really good Martin 👍

@Farm_fab Жыл бұрын

HMartin, here in the States, I'm able to shop at scrap yards without registering, so I frequently purchase new fasteners that have been scrapped. I put them in storage bins, and they are very nice to have around. It amazes me the things that are scrapped. I often find good brand tools that get thrown aside.

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Yes, I love scrap yards, Amazing what gets thrown away.

@derbyjohn972 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic trick of the trade amazing 👍🏻👍🏻. Looked like a mad scientist with the smoke 😂😂

@alant5335 2 жыл бұрын

Beware not to get them too hot as it will cause the blacking to flake off and and also may alter the tensile integrity of the screw/bolt.

@sangeenshahkhan 3 ай бұрын

That was my question.. so how hot is ok?

@J27M Ай бұрын

@@sangeenshahkhanexactly… oil quenching can affect the strength.. best to electroplate. His rock tumbler method works amazingly though

@steven907 2 жыл бұрын

Handy tip brilliant Martin

@garystone8439 2 жыл бұрын

G,day Martin hope you all good mate ,that was a great vid ,i am doing nuts and bolts on the next resto ,keep up the great work cheers Gary

@BrewabitRick 2 жыл бұрын

The rock tumbler is incredible 👍

@weekendminitoystruckcarclu4632 2 жыл бұрын

Great job as always why have i never thought of this method. Lol Great content as always....

@125sm3 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing Martin,

@paulstir 3 ай бұрын

what a difference Martin great restore job ,great useful video as well full of great information , thanks for sharing , ps my workshop build is coming on nicely exciting times ahead .

@retrorestore 3 ай бұрын

nice one Paul.

@byebier Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a good video. What type of rock tumpler must I look foe

@jasons4745 6 ай бұрын

Excellent video!

@billywhizz98 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea of recycling nuts bolts washers Martin

@gimble447 9 ай бұрын

Great video, blueing is an excellent technique to use on nuts and bolts, but aswell as carbon and other debris in engine oil its heat that also contributes to turning it black so colour in using even new engine oil will be dependant on how hot the items are. ( i would say anyone saying that their parts are clear have used nowhere near enough heat and wont be long till they corrode again) One last thing to bear in mind that oil hardening steal is the same process but needs more heat than bluing. You could find that you have actually performed that instead if you use too much heat which can inturn make the bolts more likely to snap. Its all a case of consistency and doing it the same everytime when you've found the sweet spot. Anyway like i said great vid and you have gained a new sub 😊

@alberthidding6244 Жыл бұрын

That was really helpful.

@neilwalsh4058 2 жыл бұрын

Great work on the bolts Martin and you're right good quality fixings aren't cheap if you need to replace. Your method is supposed to work on a chimnea too. Ideally when you've used it and it's still red hot, coat it in used oil. Good way of getting rid of any guests who've outstayed their welcome too I guess 😂

@tracklizard4018 Жыл бұрын

also how we treated ovens and stoves back in the day

@Alandixon88 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Money saver that is

@leeroberts5496 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Martin.

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@Mr._Restore_UK 2 жыл бұрын

Top video Martin

@mikekotarba5828 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video

@endo9913 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this excellent video. I’ve never heard of this device or process before! I was going to get an ultrasonic cleaner but Iwont be able to afford a professional one. Don you have any opinion on how they compare?

@johnhiggin7424 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Martin, I'm new to the channel, love it. As regards to the heating and quenching process I believe it's called Parkarising,I could be wrong and it definitely won't be spelt right but I did a bit of it in my engineering apprenticeship. P.s. it works they won't go rusty!

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I have left the bolts outside to see if they rust and i'll be sharing that soon.

@johnhiggin7424 2 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore Cheers for the reply. To my knowledge (40 years ago) it always goes black and won't rust, once it's at the right temperature and quenched the oil penetrates the surface. Like I said this is something I did once or twice a long time ago so I'm no expert!!!!

@Sealacamp 11 ай бұрын

Case hardening. Old metalworking trick. Works great. You can even heat em up a few times and do that more than once to increase the hardened layer thickness.

@jaguarxjsocd 11 ай бұрын

Marvelous video. What liquid do you add to the ceramic media in the rock tumbler?

@larrycroft470 2 жыл бұрын

Martin you are such an interesting chap.!! I always enjoy your videos. Please give my best to your Mrs. Your friend across The Pond. Larry C

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Larry, I will bud.

@AJPsWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Wow there like new Martin great job

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ash👍

@VictorMartinsPT 5 ай бұрын

Thank you ❤🙏❤

@STTC 2 жыл бұрын

Cool video Martin,,, Micks stickers are cheap so they fall off 🤣🤣🤣 interesting experiment that

@restorationconstantines7731 2 жыл бұрын

Very well👍

@DiecastPowderCoating 2 жыл бұрын

Great Tip Martin. I've got trouble with my nuts at the moment. I like to rub ACF50 on them. Certainly worth trying your idea. Take care, Jeff

@moonshinepz 2 жыл бұрын

ACF 50 is great stuff

@grandad8753 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't rub acf50 on your nuts might have a allergic reaction 😩 try baby oil Jeff it's safe and smells better 👍 ps glad you went with cream

@DiecastPowderCoating 2 жыл бұрын

@@grandad8753 No gran dad, I won't do that again, but I heard it's great on stopping metal rusting. Take care, Jeff

@Domythingnow Жыл бұрын

A question, once the bolt is ready to be reassembled due you apply any sort of lubricant or grease? To help prevent it seizing when trying to undo it in the future!

@21jlom Жыл бұрын

❤ thank you for sharring

@aeromech8563 11 ай бұрын

Just fand ya now subscribed mate nice one 🤟😎

@retrorestore 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for subbing

@Bioruss 2 ай бұрын

If I am not mistaken the oil quenching process is called blueing. There is a cold chemical method but personally back when I was restoring motorcycles I used the heating and oil method. I thought it looked better and lasted for forever practically.

@lambese4- Жыл бұрын

Thinking of doing my wheel nuts like this if it doesn't weaken them too much.

@Titanykus Жыл бұрын

Awesome, I wished I knew this growing up. This should be tough in elementary school. Why not? are they not teaching about crap they should be learning? while a rust proofed bolt can last a lifetime.

@spiritmusic4322 9 ай бұрын

Great info, thanks. Question: Will the tumbler / polisher work with torx bolts? Asking as I have an older BMW motorcycle and looking to restore the rusted bolts which are mostly torx types.

@retrorestore 9 ай бұрын

It should

@mr1pearl 2 жыл бұрын

Is that ceramic media you using in the vibe tub ? Really awesome results and I like the results of the heat and lube , I'm going to try that 👍

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is

@cbrider726 6 ай бұрын

Hi mate I have sent you an email . Fanatsic result from the tumbler. 👍👍👍👍

@tommoso55 2 жыл бұрын

Well done Martin, can you tell me where you got your rock tumbler from as can’t see any on eBay? Have to say the Topdon stuff is very good as I have bought all the ones you recommend.

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

There's a link for a similar tumbler below the video in the description.

@brucecookieboyz233 3 ай бұрын

Wow!🔥🔥🔥🫵🫵

@stephenwhite3832 2 жыл бұрын

How are the threads Martin on the bolts? Looked at these a few times but had a feeling it would mess the threads on smaller bolts, I’ve spent years with a wire wheel on grinder and I mean years 😂😂

@rexybundy Жыл бұрын

The only thing I don't like about this is it takes that new polished look away. I've just wired wheel brush my bolts and then polished them and I want to keep them that polished look. Would a high heat engine enamel clear coat work? Or would they tarnish over time?

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Yes, that should work.

@georgestewart1325 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that Martin.. Will you consider doing a plating video..

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

I did one George at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZtyXjZZi0NKxhqM.html

@georgestewart1325 2 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore Thank mate I will go watch it now..

@moonshinepz 2 жыл бұрын

Petrol on the side of the bench with the blowtorch going 😁 Death or glory this KZfaq game some days. 🤣

@ASKPrint 2 жыл бұрын

Martin what type of torch do you use to heat up bolts?

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Mapp gas Walter

@tipatlittle2602 3 ай бұрын

I tried it with new engine oil and start rusting 1 month after being installed on the car Any thoughts ?

@outlawflyer7868 Жыл бұрын

Hello from the future. lol. I jsut tried this technique. did them a few weeks ago. we had rain for a few days and I just noticed that the heads of the bolts started to rust so I have no idea why that happened. Had no choice but to throw a coat of paint on them. What I did was no different from you did. So send the Mystery wagon.

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Don't know, Mine were fine.

@tthams73 Жыл бұрын

They look great! But it won’t hold off corrosion for very long.

@khancross 4 ай бұрын

Not sure if the extreme heat is weaking the material

@TheDivergentDrummer Жыл бұрын

Great stuff, thanks man! I know it's off topic, but are you Dye sub printing those signs? My wife and I have been contemplating a Dye sub setup for a few years now. Just an ask to see how you find it, was it worth your investment kinda thing? New Sub!

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

We did it for years and I did training videos on another channel I have. kzfaq.info/sun/PLO265WIIFik6VyYW-gsudEVNKJ80b2S6E

@TheDivergentDrummer Жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore Sweet, thanks!. I just happened on the reply, coming back for pointers on the rusty bolts, like a month later lol. Thanks again!

@TechVauxhallDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Martin how much would you charge me to powder coat my rear brake discs.? Kind Regards. Dan.

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry bud, I don't do private jobs.

@grandad8753 2 жыл бұрын

😳

@RANDEEP685 Жыл бұрын

Hello matting where did you get the machine from?

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Amazon

@terryatkinson3182 2 жыл бұрын

Bees wax does the same job without blackening them I believe.

@robertpotter2515 2 жыл бұрын

Does that weaken the bolts? Or would that harden them?

@robertpotter2515 2 жыл бұрын

@Apocalyptic Workshop ahh ok good to know. Thank you

@medievilassassin 2 жыл бұрын

Does heating them to cherry red weaken the bolt

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Not when you quench them

@fuerteventuramobilityscoot6530 2 жыл бұрын

Rock gravel. How often do you have to change it..

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Its ceramic so doesn't really need changing for ages

@andywalker4143 Жыл бұрын

Great idea, but when you come to tighten them with a spanner, won't it damage the coating? 🤔

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Not at all

@andywalker4143 Жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore that's great, I'm going to give this a go! Excellent video 👍

@balicrimechannel8143 Жыл бұрын

Great vid, but just be careful with the waste left in the rock tumbler. Zinc plating uses carcinogenic substances (particularly the gold, rainbow-effect stuff). The carcinogenic is called Hexavalent Chromate. Great idea to add the fluid to keep the dust down, just be careful when handling/ disposing of the waste fluid. Also need to be careful with used engine oil as it also contains carcinogens.

@pablocortando1 2 жыл бұрын

Great channel,my father is restoring a vintage motorbike,can you suggest the best way to clean rust off the chrome wheels rim so he can decide what to do next?,thanks.

@doosanengineer7659 2 жыл бұрын

Soap infused wire wool pads work well. Asda sell them.

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

As Doosan Engineer suggested.

@pablocortando1 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@cw2126 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@JS-ri2rx 2 жыл бұрын

Have you considered buying a laser. You could clean the bolts or anything in potentially seconds. Or larger frames and objects in minutes.

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

I would think they are expensive.

@kon_trast 10 ай бұрын

Where did you get the pyramid media in europe?

@retrorestore 10 ай бұрын

From Ebay

@kon_trast 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, do you maybe have a link or the specs? I tried several media but none looks as good as your results @@retrorestore

@mark-kf3md Жыл бұрын

This will likely change the original temper and therefore strength of the bolts. The resulting strength of the new temper will be unknown. Seems unadvisable for bolts which are fastening critical components like brakes, engine mounts etc..

@Peter-gi3re Жыл бұрын

I just watch another video doing basically the same heat and oil treatment……. Except other gentleman said not to get them cherry red. Says if they are that red it is about 800 degrees and this will effect strength of bolt. Other guy says 400 degrees is sufficient to treat against rust. So he only got bolt to a bluish color and then he dipped it in oil a couple of times. Each time he dipped in the oil he held the bolt over the flame again briefly to burn the oil off. Just let the flame ignite the oil and then hold away from the torch. He did it 3 or 4 times and then says let the bolt cool naturally…… don’t cool it by dipping in water. Bolt ends up looking blackened just like in this video. So basically you achieve same result as Martin ….. just don’t heat the bolt until it’s glowing red to avoid making it too brittle.

@rhemyis Жыл бұрын

I used this method with flaxseed oil, they will rust again.

@SamTyler-zu7lc 11 ай бұрын

Hi would you consider maybe doing a small box of my engine bolts for me if I obviously give you money for it. Trying to restore and clean up my engine bolts and there's alot to clean up obviously and if your close enough and will consider it rather give to you to do lol. If you could get back to me that'll be great. 👍

@retrorestore 11 ай бұрын

Sorry, I don't do private jobs.

@jacostemmet7802 9 ай бұрын

They will still rust . I've done it before is will work for 3months or so .

@rtheprizeisright7323 Жыл бұрын

When you pull out of the rock tumbler. It's better to use, like a WD-40, or penetrant, to clean them off than "old Petrol", as the UK calls it. Sorry, I mean no disrespect, as Great Britain is our oldest ally, and normal folks appreciate them for it. As, I think for this video, your trying to prolong the life, maintain strength, and protect the bolt overall. The gas degrades and eats the bolt away. As to where the wd-40, or a similar product, helps the bolt and the metal stay rust free. Just my opinion, your the expert. Also, I know I was thinking before, I watched a couple videos saying don't grease your bolts, when you use them, on your car after fixing something. But what about a liquid grease instead, would this protect and prolong the bolts life? I don't like the heating method, as the heat may mess with the bolts strength, on the molecular level. But, I hate watching car/truck repair videos, where they put this shiny new part on the vehicle, and then this 2000 year old, rusted bolt back on the car. But great video thanks, from your friends across the pond, the USA.

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Thanks bud

@dirtygarageguy 2 жыл бұрын

Those bolts still have zinc on them...

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I believe they do but probably some of it has failed hense the rusty bits.

@setdetnet5001 Жыл бұрын

Mate, just leave them in 2L of coke cola, dry and dip in ACF50 , voila

@spencerbeckingham1076 2 жыл бұрын

Careful not to pierce the oil with the hot bolt. Or you'll spill oil all over your work surface. Trust me I'm talking from experience.

@sangeenshahkhan 3 ай бұрын

Hey stop blowing that dirty smoke at me…:) A quick question.. does the heat treatment and quenching in oil not change the bolts hardness? Will they not become more brittle ?

@retrorestore 2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't do this on critical bolts, these are about 15ft lbs