How to Sleep on a Cliff and Poop in a Bag

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Big Wall Bible #4 of 14 - www.bigwalls.com
Existing in a vertical world is an art and honestly one of the coolest forms of camping. But you don't know what you don't know if you haven't done it, so hopefully, this will tell you what you don't know. The idea is to practice everything at home near the ground so it's smooth as butter (or those shits after those freeze-dried dinners) when you are super tired after climbing all day.
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00:00 Getting out of bed
6:24 Pooping
11:24 Getting ready to pack
16:10 Packing it up
20:58 Jeremiah gets on belay
25:28 Where to belay
27:56 Flagging Portaledge
31:41 Setting up a portaledge
33:27 Tips and Tricks
36:37 Bounce Testing Portaledges

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@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын

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@DiabloOutdoors Жыл бұрын

Sleeping on a cliff is fun. Until....you experience a rodeo ;)

@aajlakapsio6715 Жыл бұрын

Oh this is so hardcore stuff. I can't find a better word. And I'm not talking about pooping in a bag, but the whole of it: Sleeping on a cliff, packing up, climbing the wall. Just wow! I'm not sure if watching this is more inspiring or intimidating.

@DrCrimp-sg5pb 13 күн бұрын

The humour is off the charts on this one 🤙😂

@trivialtrav Жыл бұрын

Useful info for when I never ever under any circumstances do this.

@Lukwl Жыл бұрын

Would be nice to have one episode in this series about the epics and close epics people had. You could talk about how it was caused, how to prevent them and what your solution was (if there was one). Other people could also tell their storys if they want. I think this would be an interesting and funny video Nice video btw 👍

@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын

Good idea. We include quite a few in the rappelling episode coming in a few weeks.

@andrea4633 Жыл бұрын

for the first time i truly understand the apeal of free soloing ... the gear logistics of it all 🙈

@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын

They miss the best part, chilling on the portaledge

@miller2675 Жыл бұрын

"Yours" and "mine" is a way way better verbal cue for gear hand offs. There is an obvious direction the gear is going. I have on more then one occasion seen two people both say "got it" and then both drop the gear. "Take" and "taking" are too close together sounding to be clear in a loud, windy, emergency, fast, etc. situation in my opinion.

@miles11we Жыл бұрын

Iv always done it where the person giving holds onto the item and never let's go, the person taking it has to pull it out of the others hand. So no one ever let's go of anything. But I'm on ladders, not on big walls, so I'd probably want to throw in a verbal system on top of that if I could be completely fucked if I dropped something.

@jessefertitta7784 Жыл бұрын

If you watch parts with no sound, like ready to pack, it looks kinda like the old silent comedy films haha

@Sicnus Жыл бұрын

It's here! Let's go!!!!! I live for this series.😎❣

@Sicnus Жыл бұрын

Some notes as watching. You guys say "Take" We've always said "Got" and literally make the other person pull things out of our hands. Not a crazy strong grip on what we're holding on to... but. Just enough that they have to slightly wrench it away.

@Pixx4you Жыл бұрын

GREAT info, guys. Many thanks.

@ryansheridan5015 Жыл бұрын

Dude, I love the skits. This guy's is awesome!

@manmallard 9 ай бұрын

I don't climb. I've never climbed (carnival walls excluded). I'm scared of heights from a fall I took 7 years ago. Why have I watched almost all of your videos?!?

@shLSS Жыл бұрын

The last bit with the linescale made me laugh out so loud :-)

@wb5mgr Жыл бұрын

@HowNOT2 pro tip… bring a little travel sprayer of odo-ban, great for shoe odor as it really kills the germs that cause the odor not just covers them up. Guess what else, if you spray it into your poop bag before sealing you won’t have to smell it so much either.

@spaceman8839 7 ай бұрын

before this lesson I need the how not to have a heart attack on the wall lesson

@merds77 Жыл бұрын

Gatorade 1 gal bottle for 💩 tube. I gallon zip lock with a bit of kitty litter and detergent pre loaded. Poo in bag and burrito it up to insert in the large mouth empty Gatorade bottle. I carry my spare duct tape on this bottle to hide the fermenting shit inside. Each partner gets their own and carries their own off. The heavy duty plastic keeps the smell inside...until you make another deposit, but at least its your own and not a team conglomerate scent.

@johnschorr596 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for all the good videos. I have never big wall climbed before but i think ive watched enough of these videos to be super good enough. Going to el cap in 2 weeks to go solo. Wish me luck

@daroithugo4870 Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for the series! Do you always use the pro traxion to haul? How much better is it compared to the micro traxion?

@bodybait Жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you. So informative.

@hermannwolf7118 Жыл бұрын

how was the weather on this big wall?

@internettroll2835 Жыл бұрын

I see I see said the blind man pissing in the wind. It's all coming back to me now.

@Cheesus-Sliced Жыл бұрын

call the poop tube the "animal deterrent"

@bar10dr Жыл бұрын

Wow, that was fast

@Pseudoswede 6 ай бұрын

I’ve been on $1m tour buses where you also have to shit in a bag if not near a gas station.

@ricardocabeza6006 Ай бұрын

That's because they want to dump their waste tank on the side of the interstate.

@numchuckkiller Жыл бұрын

Hello, love your content. Can you do testing on the strength of different branch unions, like what an arborist would tie into? The rule of thumb is nothing thinner than your wrist, but I want data! Maybe you could do different angles and distance from the branch union too. Thanks for even reading this!

@jdagilliland Жыл бұрын

Sounds more like a rule of wrist! nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk.

@ricardocabeza6006 Ай бұрын

You want him to do destructive testing on a living tree...? Yeah, that's never going to happen.

@jacobdunning8373 Жыл бұрын

What is the taco hammock?

@miqiee Жыл бұрын

Must have missed something. How does the poop get in the 2 liter bottle?

@mr.peanut2096 Жыл бұрын

Why do you have the hammock with you? Portaledge alternative?

@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын

That was just filler for the bag. You take a hammock on a wall if you want to learn how bad ass the climbers in the 70s were but otherwise you just take a ledge.

@alxhiding Жыл бұрын

call the bottle Little Boy or Fat Man, according to the disaster it would cause if you dropped it.

@rickhaller3328 Жыл бұрын

How do you put poop into the “vault” ? Does entire bag you went in get shoved into the “vault” ?

@ricardocabeza6006 Ай бұрын

For best results, leave the bag slightly open and a little bit hanging out of the "vault". It's like having a bread crumb trail to your location for any rescue operations.

@Viperatut Жыл бұрын

New parents, when your kids refuses to go to the bathroom before a long trip, THIS is their future.

@Sirmellowman Жыл бұрын

dude I would fill that poop tube in a day or two max easily

@Secretname951 Жыл бұрын

I’d be so scared of unclipping myself in my sleepZ

@TheS4ndm4n Жыл бұрын

Are you sure it's safe to drill into the portaledge? My gut instinct (as an engineer) tells me that may seriously compromise the strength of that beam, pipe or whatever its called. Though that would actually be a great thing to test, if only they weren't so expensive...

@HowNOT2 Жыл бұрын

would a small 1/4" hole at the connection compromise it? It seems like that is how everything is attached. The bar reinforces it right at the weakest point anyways. That could be a hard test to determine something conclusive.

@TheS4ndm4n Жыл бұрын

@@HowNOT2 I agree, that would be hard to test, however I have an idea. Now, let me verbosely explain my point. So you are right, the bar will reduce bending stress in the strut. However, there is no 'hard' connection between them, as can be seen in the setup video you included, there the whole ledge twists around itself. So imagine two people are sitting (or god forbind jumping) on opposite corners of the ledge. This would try to turn one of the long bars one way and the other one against it. The 1/4" bolt would try to prevent that and therefore create stress within the wall of the strut, with quite a lot of leverage. Despite the bar taking stress off, the middle of the strut is still one of the places that sees the most stress. Now combined with the stress in the wall, that could well have unforseen consequences, since the part wasn't designed with that in mind and probably not tested for it. Also, the way a hollow pipe fails is not by bending or breaking but rather by folding in on itself, which instantly leads to a massive loss of strength of the cross-section. So it is - kind of - comparable to breaking like glass. When you cut glass and bend it, it's gonna break exactly at the place of the cut. Much in the same way, the pipe will most likely collapse at the point where he hole is. Although the latter part is a bit conjectural. Now you said, that's how everything is attached, but the ends of the strut don't see much bending stress and even if one of those bolts were to damage the whole it's in, it wouldn't do much to the stability of the ledge in general. So in conclusion, if you bolt in the bar, stress on opposite corners should be the worst case scenario. And that may be a place to start in a possible test.

@ricardocabeza6006 Ай бұрын

@@TheS4ndm4n Are you trying to whip off your portaledge? It's just a glorified hammock.

@acdbrnout5101 Жыл бұрын

What about the pee when you poop? 🤣

@jacobdunning8373 Жыл бұрын

Pee first separate probably

@richardsmith9918 2 ай бұрын

The Porta John

@cinerati0n Жыл бұрын

Pssshhhhh, don't tell me how to poop in a bag

@alexthomas2953 Жыл бұрын

so wait how are you pooping into that 2 liter? like no way is that opening large enough. did i miss some modification?

@bryana7163 Жыл бұрын

I guess they funnel it with the bag?

@alexthomas2953 Жыл бұрын

@@bryana7163 that can't be it. There's no way You're mashing your shit into a 1inch opening 2litree at 1k feet up. They gotta be cutting open that bottle or using a different one and the was a joke.

@alexthomas2953 Жыл бұрын

Personally I'd need a nice nalgine size opening or shit in a bag and store on a nalgine destination for poo only. Please feel free to add solutions. This is a big deal for me on the wall now that I'm going for bigger climbs

@bryana7163 Жыл бұрын

@@alexthomas2953 yea, I don't know,. I've done hiking and indoor rock climbing, and mountain biking that's it. I was just curious on how people set that stuff up while hanging on a rope, its quite the challenge.

@jeremiahletourneau9951 Жыл бұрын

To clarify: You go to the bathroom in the wag bag and then you cut the 2 liter water bottle open like a pac man and put the wag bag inside it that way. Then tape it shut. You can usually fit a couple used bag in said bottle.

@Jayizzy433 Жыл бұрын

What is a plastic beg? Is that a climbing term? 😂

@craigwatt1303 2 ай бұрын

friends who climb together poop together...

@wilsonpombo5224 Жыл бұрын

and if you forget your poop bag? its going to fly isnt it ?

@montagistreel 7 ай бұрын

[I would prefer Ryan not look at me while he sh*ts]

@ShootingUtah Жыл бұрын

I think having to shit in a bag and then somehow get it into a 2 liter bottle is a sign that whatever you're doing just shouldn't be done!

@liamshub3483 6 ай бұрын

just say you're boring

@bflagg94 Ай бұрын

Have fun on your couch!!

@spyrish 4 ай бұрын

how do you poop into a 2 litre?

@ricardocabeza6006 Ай бұрын

Carefully

@internettroll2835 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand how to poop in a pop bottle.

@Shawn_Lai 11 ай бұрын

So whats the cost to aid climb? Lol. Good lord no wonder why everyone lives out of their vans.. 😂 idk how you can sleep on a "ledge" i would be tripping out. Got me anxious just watching.