If France stopped selling Russia Thermal devices then it wouldn't be an issue.

The Russians will just replace the manifcaturing with their own, or import trough another country@@bootlegpete7984

@@bootlegpete7984 Talib would have got thousands of thermal scopes left behind by America.

Don’t worry we have thermal cloaks that shield you from thermal vision now

@@fredslipknot9I'd be interested in watching a training exercise with both in play

Now that’s a class act

Just now, reading your story, I recall very early in my career. Might even have been right after Basic. I was on an evasion exercise, where we were to conduct a mock ambush on a column. It constantly rained, making it easier to evade enemy patrols. Suddenly I heard movement close by, from my 2 o'clock. It was the hunting force (Red team), and I went to the ground. I was up front scouting, and got physically seperated from the rest of my section, as they scattered in the direction we came from. The Red guys, three of them, came closer and closer to me. When they were right on top of me, maybe 2 meters, they stopped, and pulled out their rations. I lay there for maybe 30 minutes, completely still, hearing every word of their subdued conversations. I was freezing like never before, miserable, and scared. Even though an exercise. I started getting sleepy from the wet ground lowering my body temperature, and fought not to close my eyes. Finally I decided that this wasn't a tenable situation, and I started yelling 'da da da, da da da', "You're dead, you're dead". And I slowly got to my feet, shaking all over, and hardly being able to stand. One of the guys fell over, and knocked his pot over, his food landing on the ground. We failed the exercise, as my section, While trying to complete the objective. Got caught in an ambush, by another Red patrol. Without realising it at the time, I learned a lot that night, hat followed me, for the rest of my 10+ years career, in the Danish armed forces. Especially from the bad choices of the three Red guys. But also about the craft in general, and about my self. Thanks for taking me down memory lane. I haven't thought about this for many years.

Kudos

Thank you for sharing - what did you learn about yourself?

I remember working with a German Pioneer unit years ago with their new recruit training. I had one guy take a leak on me, then crawled into the CO tent and had a beer with him joking about what happened. Then had him put some night vision goggles on to see all the NVG chemlights over all the fighting positions before everyone else started the night attack. I also had a few breaches in the wire lit up also for them the drive through into the camp.

I reckon that is true, but not talked about for military intelligence & strategic purposes. Thermal cloaks, which can make you invisible to thermal sights, are already in use in Ukraine.

The clothing all British troops wear is infrared reflective which doesn't make you invisible to thermals but much harder to spot at least

@@robertcumming9227 I'm in deep cover in these reply threads, if you can see me, shout out.

Ya that's part of their OPSEC I'm sure. I'm sure the Russians want to know the answer to that question also.

@@robertcumming9227 also something the Iraqis learnt quickly is literally to just ambush a squad wearing thermal blankets

BMP go brrrrrrrrrr

Thermals might have limited range but drones have a good range

You'd be surprised. I have a "budget" £1000 thermal and can spot a human at over a mile. The only things that really defeat thermal are thick clothing, which of course can limit movement (not really an issue if you're a sniper), survival blankets, glass and thick cover, it easily sees through light cover and if anything is even slightly warmer than the background radiation then the operator can generally discern that from the background, i.e. you get used to seeing what is not an animal or residual heat from the daylight sun, but someone or something that is not perfectly hidden, their kit as well can look different to the background too. Thermal sees straight through fog, thick rain is pretty good for messing with thermals abilities, though. Probably the best way to defeat thermal detection, would be to have some sort of light cover, like a 2m square sheet, that you could put up in front of you and something that was interwoven with silver thread, and it would likely block the thermals view of your body and equipment, I'm sure the various militaries are working on ways to defeat thermal with interwoven materials.

Thermals can see a lot further than 500m 😂

there are ir cams as big as a sharpener that can detect heat signatures from up to a km away, ofc task of a sniper is to not even give the enemy a reason to put a ir cam toward your position but as how everyone sees in the ukr conflict, fog of war is nonexistent due to drones being literally everywhere in a country thats mostly covered in farm land. snipers should just stay in the heavy wooded/ urban areas xd

Lol. Grave diggers and 'chunkies'

Salty pioneers

You overestimate how many adversaries will be equipped with thermals

@@phitsf5475 idk, with the US trying to make them standard issue, the tech could become much more easily available if manufactured at a larger scale. If that happens you can almost bet China and Russia would try and give it to more of their troops

Aren't there ways to hide from thermal vision? I

​@@phitsf5475you can buy thermal addon for £1200 which is pennies for governments and the next gens scopes from £4000 so dont you believe it. Ive got basic thermal not many can hide from that unless you are in very thick bushes even you cant see though it or your target cant see you otherwise its good nite 😂

@@Paulgotit862 not really, unless you are completely covered to the point that you cant see anything. Even then a drone with or without a thermal will probably spot you anyway

it really is when your not subjected to the micro climate there, just came back from that training ground myself and we had all 4 seasons in an hour

@@cheifareno4924 devine looks like Wales 150 m

@@Steve-hu7jf Leek & Upper Hulme, I believe.

Cold, wet, uncomfortable, you can get lost very easily in the mist, these are some of the harshest training grounds in the world.

@@baconcrusader7476 Staffordshire? It never seemed that fierce when I trained there.

Whichever one arises.

@@ProfessorDoom I'm more concerned with calls to current ones.

He who gays wins.

I read that the snipers 2nd has to clean him up in that scenario. You won't see that in a war movie!!!

@@purplemonkeyelephant a rookie initiation

Unfortunately… they cannot move regardless of any ‘urges’ - proper technique is to just go, without moving.. sorting the situation when you’re home.

They generally avoid food stuffs that are more likely to make them poop. Is one of the things I was told.

They work in pairs, sniper and spotter. The buddies will take care of each others business in that regard if they have to.

They go like anyone else, although if you are eating the right things you can *easily* keep your output to twice a week. Snipers don't generally get on an OP and stay motionless for days.

Lol 😂

*the white death

LOL WHITE SNIPER HE ONLY EVER USED IRON SIGHTS

@@user-yh6ti7bn4l yes iron sights because he was used to them for one and they were better in cold weather , he also said it made him a smaller target etc

@@LeonDegrelle.z and no reflection

@@aleksiwilson2295 yes , also so impressive iron sights he must have had mega eye sight as well 😁

Thermal suits they have now even tanks have anti thermal covers

@@MyScotty7 do you really think they're going to give a thermal suit to every soldier!? Lol

@@MyScotty7those do not work effectively. They mitigate signatures but do not make them invisible. Thermal has made traditional camouflaging much less useful

😂😂😂

Armchair general always knows better

YES YOU CAN

@@user-yh6ti7bn4l thats cool - only ever seen rank and aacc or wings on pti jacket is it any mil qualifications like senior Brecon allowed as well or not ? or just aacc wings or sniper badge or rank thats it ?

Last I checked Russias "army" is mostly conscripts and prisoners. Weird how you feel the need to simp for them.

Конечно нет 😏

@@kk-wl2ygлол

So from that extremely vague information you now know how to be a sniper? Even after they explained how detailed, and lengthy the training is? 🤣 None of the information they put forward is a secret, you can find more information on the net if you wanted.