They better build a turtle tank

The issue is, nobody can move large armored formations anymore. The moment there is such a target, the entire area is blanketed with ordinance delivered mines, then the slowed or immobilized assets are pummeled with pinpoint artillery, and then swarmed with drones. It used to take a very unlucky artillery strike to take down even an immobilized AFV. Today, the crew is lucky if it has time to bail out and get away before the AFV is destroyed, and escape becomes impossible because of the saturation of shells around them.

60 year old 432s. And im not convinced Ajax will be any better protected from drones.

I wonder how long could this Brit would last a week or a month?

hahahaha, yeah, to hide they are staying in their little island.

How can they call it an army with only 70 000 soldiers and about 10 working tanks.

This is all well and good, but ideally now needs to be scaled up tp 10's of thousands of men asap!! The British Army is at disgracefully low numbers.

a fraction of NATO's firepower, and literally all of britains working challenger 2s

Drones are a new threat to be taken very seriously. What are the answers?

Throughout history, N.A.T.O has been standing for "No Action Talk Only". Which is actually good.

Nice how vehicles are parked close to each other

The British Army should just buy up all the toy quadcopters on sale on the Gadget Store and start practicing the same fpv tactics Russia is using. Very quickly you will run out of tanks.

Everyone's got a plan until they get the first punch.

British Armed Forces caught with their pants down after a decade of cuts.👏🏼

What is old is new again. Nearly half of my 35 years in the army was spent on Cold War preparation including service in Germany during the 80s. It's almost laughable watching this new generation trying to come to grips with near peer, armour heavy combat. Scrambling to relearn lessons that were second nature to us. Knowledge that faded in the mad rush to 'beat swords into ploughshares' and reap the 'peace dividend' of the early 90s.

Their normal procedure is to leap 200 feet into the air and scatter themselves over a large area

😂😂😂until you face the actual drone you will see how far you learned

We were making fun of Russian tank being vulnerable to Kamikaze drones early in the war. The reality is after seeing how Leopard, Abrams, Challenger also be vulnerable to kamikaze drones and having had to include Cope Cages.

The answer: air based electronic warfare for live controlled drones and cheap interceptors like APKWS for long range GPS guided drones like "Shahed" for example

Back to the 80’s for all these that remember Spearpoint et al!

Army should buy the 🇩🇪 Skynex air defence system as an urgent operational requirement, it’s ready to go and essential if our expensive armour is to survive

yall are underestimating gamers eye sight

Unless you can build a tracked C-RAM/SPAAG weapon system on an armoured vehicle chassis and attach them to tank troops and Armoured infantry platoons to maintain the airspace is clear and stop drones kamikaze attacks or co-ordinating artillery fire you're going to have a rough time, but don't worry I'll fully expect it to be an urgent operational requirement about 2 years into conflict after trying the "old-new" way for the Infantry Corps and Royal Tank Squadron if instant sunshine isn't used.

i really hope the uk is learning from the ukraine war and over coming the problems. dont just say you are.

they don't even have protection from drones on the third year of war. lol

물결강판으로 참호를 만들고 지붕까지 만든 것은 아주 좋은 드론방어책이다... 미군의 배럭 같은 것임...굿....

The REAL question should be: wtf is britain doing in ukraine????

>not a single fpv drone operator in the brigade >no cages on tanks like in russian or israel army >no jammer on tank or other transport I can imagine what the russian army would do with these clowns

wow! British troops at last have learned a very valuable lesson gained in the war of Ukraine...! - hide.

Russia has only gotten more belligerent since NATO keeps expanding East.

Drones are the new weapon and they can take out the cheapest tank T-72 and expensive Challenger 2 just as easy

Brings back memories of doing this stuff back in the 80s. Its a style of fighting that should not have been allowed to lapse. Unfortunately the military and strategy experts really aren't that expert. History is never wrong

Todays Uk army is a joke, . Without its usual UsA master, it would stand 1 month on a real front line war

Does it still make sense for the US to maintain NATO if it takes its national interests into account? Countries in Western Europe like Germany pursue a mercantilist economic model. To do this, they are dependent on cheap energy from Russia and large export markets like China. The USA is currently "protecting" Germany with thousands of soldiers, a nuclear shield and hundreds of military bases. The resulting political influence that the USA has on Germany has not been able to prevent economic relations with China from becoming even more intense in recent weeks. In my opinion, Chancellor Scholz's trip to China in April was a clear sign that Germany is not prepared to cut its economic ties with China. And given this reality, the USA will sooner or later give up its military involvement in Europe.

Has nato not watched a single ukraine video?? the tactics are 50 years behind.

That tactic will definately win wars....hiding.....Rule Brittania. lol

God bless the “Ruperts” - meant in the most cheeky 1982 Falklands humour.

They work together as WWII. God save our soldiers🙏🏻

Minsk accord

Personally I guess not easy to avoid the drone threat, given that the drones are being improved constantly from time to time as well as they are much cheaper and lighter as compared to conventional military vehicles...

영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다... 한반도에서 남북은 2백만에 달하는 대군이 휴전선에서 대치하고 있습니다... 한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요.... 현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다... 평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...

For any enemy…

If only we’d updated those Warriors.

They say drones, I see concentration. How is it?

British infantry are the best but Warrior IFV isn’t ready to face auto cannons. Coming from a former Warrior crewman, I’d rather be on foot.

interesting how they aren't including anti drone tech on these tanks

what's this, instructors who are not having actual real combat experience ? at this point, UA troops are way more experienced than any NATO troops.

One problem with where they are practicing, very few of the drone attacks accured in forested areas.

We have no counter to drones on the level they're being used in Ukraine

In the past, tanks move with armoured infantry to counter troops with bazookas.. I feel now tanks need to move with Short range Anti Air cover, for every 4 tanks there has to be a mobile anti air to constantly detect drones and counter it..

I hope NATO is training with an overmatch ability, as he talks he doesn’t leave me with that impression

The problem is the tank being so thin on the top of tanks. enough explosive mass and there’s a big hole in the top. I think if they add cope cages and ERA on the top face (looking down from top down view) of the tank you’d have a better chance

Why are you preparing for war against drones?? Meaning you're preparing against Russia

The Bulldog will outlive us all.

They are training to hide themselves - like the Challenger tanks !!!

I saw a video of a drone going in search to target the Turtle tank . It qas so weird to see a house move ..

British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat In other words? 'We have not got a clue how to reasonably stop these things yet.' ☮

Try moving quickly in the Ukranian territory lol

Mighty Challenger still hidden from frontline?😂😂

Is this an exercise or is this a deployment? I wouldn't want to bring them back from there too early.

Drones are King these days

Have they learned nothing ? The equipment is to close together making it an easy target

Britian really has to acquire new material for their army. Those Warriors are ancient by modern standards, the Bulldogs even more so. I have immense respect and admiration for the British military, easily some of the best lads I've ever met, but it's pathetic to have them operate with such outdated equipment.

Putin really REALLY does not want to escalate things with NATO.

Loitering munitions are a major threat to armor these dats... You take a good year to train an MBT crew only for that highly trained crew to die within days on hit fronts like Kharkiv; is armor on the way out???

Send out certain frequencies to jam radio control: switch comms to either 1.) off like submarines do, or like back when they sent letters too each other. (you don't need a verbal motivation from HQ to shoot someone in the face) 2.) for emergency comms, go Fiber optic and have the Transceiver of the unit somehow deaf to jamming frequencies, and the HQ transceiver should be out of the EMP zone unless it's large. or you could boost comms frequency to really high, you'd think a drone would have limited battery, like 2200-7000 MAH, to keep it light and disposable, so it's transmission and receiving would be lower power so if they trace the comm field it's like 30 miles away instead of 30'. I'll expect my bucket list items fulfilled before 2050, thank you.

Still think they should have accepted the Iron Fist APS from the Black Night program for Challenger and added it with the development of Challenger 3 - a hard kill active protection system against HEAT and slower moving munitions would have been better and long term far more useful. The system in a LONG TERM basis would have saved loads of money for the tax payer and the government, by making the vehicles more survivable. it makes you ask the question, what is worse? spending the money on the iron fist system, and then the cost of one use of it, or spending another £4m-£9m on a new tank, not including trained crew to replace the one that isn't able to protect against HEAT warheads or low speed projectiles? because in the long run, the APS system would surely be better for both vehicle and crew. its just typical that the people who don't have to use the vehicles get to choose what the vehicles get based on cost cutting and having no idea what is good or not while not realizing that their "cost cutting" is basically saying "we value the money we save more than the life you lose".

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"AI" will render electronic counter-measures useless.

Think cold war not desert storm.

defend from drones? OK.... all you have to worry about now is the Yanks.

as effective as "Duck and Cover".

Basically they are preparing to go into Ukraine to fight Russia

Literally no cage on the turret? Useless

You must know that the military army, like the football team, must always train and practice its work!

Wars go on for decades equipment gets blown up put out of action

Other than Poland where are all the EU troops and armour?

Absolutely ridiculous destroying the Environment.. !

you can’t hide you just get lucky

You can have the best tanks and armoured vehicles in the world but as we've seen their all vulnerable to drone attack. It's looking more and more likely that war with Russia is unavoidable sadly it seems as though neither side learned anything from the first two World Wars even with such similarities. This coming war I fear will be far far worse for all mankind if the madness ensues

and where does the British military have experience in combating drones? That he can teach and pass on experience? Where is he in the last 20 years of war that he knows how it goes?

We need energy shields!

British tanks are to heavy

All these army videos... Prince William in a Apache Helicopter....something tells me we are not far off WW3

you can not hide from X-Wings

Forces News, is there a reason we don't see any tunneling machinery here on this test or in use in Ukraine? Small tunnel borers could dig 50m to 100m a day. Within a few weeks you can move a lot of guys behind the enemy line, attack front and back, cut off their resupply. And you have the tunnels for protection from drones. House builders use conveyer belts for moving the muck from the ground. There are small enough diggers and borers, that pass the much behind them, onto conveyor belts. Hand diggers can also throw muck onto the belts. The muck could be thrown/stacked around areas/machinery you want to protect. We seen the corrugated sheets. Throw the muck against the exposed side of those sheets and it's good protection. Those drones must be weak to mud. If they can't see, they can't hit, right? So what about a water squirter with dirty/sticky fluid? Or if it's powerful enough or will knock out the drone. Even using the muck from the digging into a compressed pipe and aimed at incoming drones, surely that would have an effect like shrapnel. No ammunition necessary, just compressed air and dirt. Could easily have multiple tubes pre filled with compressed dirt and air, fixed around the vehicle. Or on an aiming system. Very very cheap. Reusable. Refillable. Can also be taken off the vehicle and used to protect troop areas as a form of trip wire defence. They can run out of ammo. They won't run out of dirt.

ECM

I can't see any protections against drones on those machines🤓🤓🤓🤓

Makes a drone any xbox player can fly... You win simple.

about the mentioned Afghanistan. THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS for the occupation

At least nato is now getting it together no more sitting ducks all day n a row then 😂

¿Qué les pueden enseñar a los piratas?

"russia bad wahh"

So let’s tell the whole world how to do this???????

All this Nato commanders is talk talk talk. Hilarious soldiers on the run. 🤣

Hide from them? The Ukraine war has taught us from the drone vids, you can't hide from them! Tanks needs anti-drone technology, and the technology is there...

Making turtle shell

This is impossible I guess.

Ukraine is like a warning of what happens when you don't have air supremacy. In Day 1 of the Air Campaign of Desert Storm, the US launched EF-111 radar jamming aircraft and long range Tomahawk Cruise Missiles from B-52s and hit air defense sites with a barrage of Hellfire missiles from Apache helicopters. They took out Iraqi radars, electronic warfare and command and control leaving the Iraqis blind before the Air Campaign turned to actual bombing of tanks and APCs. Ukraine simply doesn't have any of those assets. The Allies had hundreds of F-16s; Ukraine will soon get a small handful. Drones have changed warfare, but only if you don't have long range electronic jamming, cruise missiles and anti-radiation missiles in large numbers to overwhelm air defenses. NATO would never engage their forces on the ground without air supremacy; which they achieve Day 1.

May be sounds like a joke,but why doesnt tanks hide in a really bad decoy of a tank ?.should be brilljant idea!. Or have a column of vehicles under camouflage band.and you only can distinguish very good the shapes of decoys under the camouflage,while the real ones you cant see the shape .should be very confusing for kamicace drones and other precision artilleri,