This should be required viewing for any newbie collector. Thankfully, in my years of collecting, I have never fallen for a crapophone.

thank you for showing the difference. the interest for these record player is certainly increased. Unfortunately there is not many Shellac records left. The one you play is an "electric processed" record. which means it has a reduction of base and increase of trebble. that need to be reversed at the playback, for which you need electric amplifier. Early shellac records are full frequency and therefor sound better but are hard to find. they were made until the beginning-mid 20' around that time labels had script "electrical process" or "electrically recorded" to tell the user to play it with electric equipment. When that became obviouse and handcrankers were replaced and put in attics it was not neccessary to tell people that anymore but that knoledge is long gone and we se people playing these records on handcrankers. Unfortunately they dont make these records anymore so pleas consider getting electric equipment to play them and try to find real Shellac records for your handcranker. Real shellac records are made of a different compound, wear less and has a grounding compound to shape the needle to fit perfectly in the grove and should therefor never be played on an electric equipment unless it has an electric tonehead with replaceble steel needle. according to a standard from 1950 a record should last at least 2000 playings, if played with a lightweigt electric cartridge. How many times on a steel needle cranker? 1-50? depending on the condition of the needle and then of to Ebay with it... please, lets save those records that are left. Stop the steel needle cranking madness and save a record. They have been saved for 70-90 years only to be destroyed in this new trend. New trends will come but those destroyed records are gone.

Thanks for the video. I have that exact same fake one! Although it was only bought as a decorative piece and not as a functional player

They don’t even have to fake the old dirt and scratched finish, it’s a side effect of the assembly process! Thank you for showing it to the world.

Those are probably made for looks and not to be a functional machine,because if I saw or would find one that would be what I might be interested in. The fact that you could possibly be damaging records playing them on these "fake" machines

Greatest step by step explanation.

Thank you, very useful and comprehensive.

This is brilliant. Thank you for your channel.

Helpful video!

Great review! Keep up the amazing work and contributing to the hobby 🙌

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Great job on the video, although a couple things you missed. Before I begin I hope you're making sure to grease and oil the motor on your original gramophone, I say this since in the video the motor looked really clean and dry. There were some gramophones that had crank handles that had the wood grip (supposed to be wood, not plastic) but they were three parts. Two pieces of steel rod with a piece of sheet steel holding them together. The overall fit and finish is where you can spot a modern reproduction compared to an original (I'm not saying fake because even though they're pretty crude and barely functional they do work). Almost all of them use the same motors (not sure of any with different motors) but that doesn't always mean it's immediately a fake, they're doing semi crude copies of original designs. Most all of the reproduction gramophones are exterior horn machines, from what I have seen for the most part none of them are interior horn setups. Lastly the reproducer there is a modern one, but it's based on a budget metal diaphragm reproducer from the 30's. Sorry for the wall of text, but hopefully this helps someone.

Very nice video you give a lot of good information for what to look for. Thanks for sharing.

Very educational, thank you!

Very useful content. Can u pls tell me which one is the rarest and most valuable, Made in Germany, England or Swiss. Thanks

thanx for sharing

I’ve noticed a lot of online ads for these fakes display the gramophone in a very “staged” setup. It looks more like a photo shoot than a genuine antique ad. Most real sellers will display their machines on solid color backdrops as to clearly show the buyer all the close up details.

Junior exhibition sound box aren't too often to see.! Absolutly all outside horn models from HMV, Victor, Deutche Gramophone has vertical mounted springs - well, allmost. Except for the "trade mark" models. They was at the marked between 1898-1903...

Original is the Beautiful one

Very hlepful ❤

Nice video an comparisson. Do you think is there a way to Improve the sound of the fake ones? Maybe adjusting the fit of the different parts?

Can you pls tell me where to buy the genuine one? I found lots of fake ones everywhere 😂

Oh noooo, I was so happy to find a little treasure 😅 mine is even prettier, with glass and... I still love it. 😢

Okey, i got a fake one. I was already having my doubts but i got an real suitcase model. Did i good spending 20 euro's on the "fake" thing? And how old are these fake's? Good video, thanks!!

Great recommend.

Is it possible to get a high quality replica? I want to by my girlfriend a gramophone for her birthday but I can't afford an antique.

The fake one stills plays.

That's such a shame, I found my one is fake and I just bought it. . . everytime I try to play it makes a loud clicking noise.

Can you share a video of your real gramophone?

How much price of orginal?

Sound like kitten crying😂😂😂

2:40 not good attached to the housing

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