How to Straighten a Wall For Plasterboard

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5 жыл бұрын

A simple block and string line trick for getting straight walls. This technique is used quite often in carpentry so it's a good one to know! Timber can be unpredictable!
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@tobortine 5 жыл бұрын

I had no reason to watch this video, I have no wall to straighten but it was, nevertheless, interesting and entertaining.

@milktoast4413 4 ай бұрын

Watched this 5 years ago and yesterday was the first time I had to use this building a custom staircase. My boss didn't think it would work. We'll it did and all credit went to scott!!!!!

@joem1413 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not a carpenter, but I played with wood for 50 years. Being able to move a stud like that is nice trick. Well done.

@harrystefanatos7870 3 жыл бұрын

I found a few cuts in my old wall (during my reno)and thought...idiots to myself. Now I know better....thanks guys

@danieltreacy6957 3 жыл бұрын

No you were right. Idiots. You don’t cut studs. You plane or pack. And when you make the wall you place studs with all bends the same way

@FishermanJosh 3 жыл бұрын

I use this method, one thing I'd love to add... the end studs you placed your blocks and string lines from need to be checked first, if they aren't straight your actually replicating the curve in the frame and imitating that curve through the wall. Might come out straight through the centre line of the wall however you may be copying the curve of the first at last studs.

@caleb3470 2 жыл бұрын

The end studs are shot into a wall if done properly they should already be straight

@pablomax9376 2 жыл бұрын

@@caleb3470 Yes, but that is straight on a different axis. It the board is bowed along the narrow edge, no amount of nailing is going to straighten it.

@LaserStylez 5 жыл бұрын

If that wall doesn’t support a load or has any structural integrity then what he did was just fine. So many haters with little knowledge. Easy to be a know it all on the internet.. Great work man keep it up!

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

The blue sheeting he put on (Brace line) provides the structural integrity. The only loading the lumber takes is vertical loading from the top, so it is fine for up to 1/3 of studs in a structural wall to be treated this way

@bernardthedon3483 3 жыл бұрын

Not in America. If the project is being inspected their is no way an inspector is going to pass that framing with studs chopped almost in half lol.

@gazpal 3 жыл бұрын

@@bernardthedon3483 , but that's in America and not New Zealand ;) This type of adjustment doesn't hinder or harm the structural integrity of the building when carried out within Building Regulations.

@sundog8772 3 жыл бұрын

BernardTheDon Hardly chopped in half...If anything by sistering the ‘chopped’ studs they are equally if not stronger than before. Besides it’s just a partition wall...

@llRLllKingz 3 жыл бұрын

@@bernardthedon3483 American building is trash. You obviously dont straighten walls

@lxmzhg Жыл бұрын

To help alleviate this situation you need to ensure that when the studs are nailed into place, that their bow, if any, are all facing in the same direction.

@michaelgarrow3239 6 ай бұрын

And no heartwood (bullseyes)they wander like a drunkin hobo…

@harveysmith100 5 жыл бұрын

Great job. I normally end up skimming the walls I build so the time it takes to straighten them will be made up and more in the skimming. Your plasterers much love you!

@slicktype001 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, I have never in my days seen this being done to a newly framed wall. Kudos' to you my friend.

@Michaelduxfield 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@tilerman 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a tiler and with hand on my heart I rarely tile a 'straight' wall be it plasterboard, plaster or any other material. I do accept that sometimes, (sometimes!) the fact that a stud wall is not straight or flat is down to bent timber. However, I do follow on from other 'trades' that don't know what a straight edge is let alone use one. Nice video guys.

@gmailsteve1 5 жыл бұрын

Great trick! Specially if you're paid by the hour.

@SkillBuilder 5 жыл бұрын

I am English and I love Flitch and Chips

@democracyforall 3 жыл бұрын

Why did not he use the lasser? Because with that you can really do it without all this trouble?

@waxhead63 3 жыл бұрын

That's fush n chups

@jamespolack5205 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously on hourly rate. 😂

@skylark4901 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't had Flitch and Chips in a while, great now I'm hungry..

@thejoke2791 3 жыл бұрын

@@democracyforall Oops, the timber is bowed

@jbb5470 5 жыл бұрын

Great tip. I never realized you could do this. Thanks for posting

@davetheflave2570 5 жыл бұрын

To those saying buy straight lumber- wood will move on its own do to weather. Humidity, dryness and so on. So it’s not always that easy and especially if your framing stands alone for a period of time during a remodel. Also this is a great way to complete this task but it’s not time efficient. I’m a carpenter and when we finish framing a house we have to shim and shave the walls and windows. We use a planer, cardboard shims and a 6 foot level. Plane down the side that’s bowed out from the wall and fill gap with shims on the other side. If the stud is that bad we replace it.

@curtisbme 5 жыл бұрын

Yup. This also allows for adjustments where the bow isn't consistent, where method like this cut-and-brace method would result in other parts of the stud being off.

@davetheflave2570 5 жыл бұрын

Glyn Owen you’re not lying about that!

5 жыл бұрын

Over here people almost exclusively use a stud made the same way plywood is made, 2x3 or 2x4 in size. Stays perfect straight, don't know why it's in use everywhere

@bunsdad4530 5 жыл бұрын

For sure

@davetheflave2570 5 жыл бұрын

Henrik Rönn how much does one of these studs cost a piece?

@louui 3 жыл бұрын

cabinet and granite guys are gonna love installing in that home! 🔥🔥

@jimgriffiths9071 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent tip! Never seen this method before! Thank you!

@mariah4451 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic tip. Brilliant. Thanks for sharing:-)

@raynoladominguez4730 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, good lesson to learn. Thanks.

@TheJunkyardgenius 5 жыл бұрын

I've been a carpenter for 18 years and never saw that trick before. definitely going to use that one! good video mate, thanks for sharing.

@scorpiuswireless1 5 жыл бұрын

Wow youre an amatuer, thanks for sharing.

@teetom2740 5 жыл бұрын

Very cool trick. I would have never thought of that. I appreciate good attention to detail when the job calls for it.

@hyper_active_snail 4 жыл бұрын

First day doing reno at my first home. Ran into exact same issue as the gib wall had clearly visible kinks so we ripped it out and checked the studs. Studs were all over the place. Thanks for the content. Very helpful!

@rfcarlson1 5 жыл бұрын

It's a fish plate. A flitch plate is a steel plate that's sandwiched between two pieces of wood to strengthen it like forming a long beam. A fish plate is a metal or wood piece that's attached as a slab on the side of a wood joint to join them together. The term fish plate comes actually comes from laying railroad track. It's the piece of steel that's attached to 2 tracks to extend their length.

@ronniesciortino7587 3 ай бұрын

I’ll be starting construction on my new home soon and was talking with my cousin, a retired builder of 30 years, how important it is to have straight studs, especially where counters and cabinets will be installed. He told me that his framers would check all the studs and put cuts in some just as you did, except that they would drive screws into the cuts before nailing on the flitch plates. I think the wood shims are even better. It was great to see how this is done. Enjoyed this video very much.

@b_uppy 5 жыл бұрын

Always love to see the problem solving on this. If is important to have straight walls if you want a high gloss finish on the walls. Also important for mounting large sections of granite and the like.

@mrwhite4780 5 жыл бұрын

In all my years of joinery and carpentry I've never seen anyone do this.

@joemarkey6 3 жыл бұрын

I've never known this be done in the UK either, and 3x2 is all shapes, no one on price has time for this

@joemarkey6 3 жыл бұрын

I like it though

@FC-hh6nu 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@ryderholywonder5864 3 жыл бұрын

@snipe69 built my own home 3 years ago, this is exactly how I straightened my walls. I live in the USA

@4354bill 3 жыл бұрын

Obviously his own house 😂

@hvrtguys 5 жыл бұрын

We use this same trick on aircraft wings.

@TomGarner99 4 жыл бұрын

😲

@bjeromec 4 жыл бұрын

Same. I'd watch it again too!

@howardrickert2558 3 жыл бұрын

Wish I didn’t know that.

@kenthelliker2112 3 жыл бұрын

Model airplanes i hope

@singlefather01 3 жыл бұрын

What aircraft?

@leonelali3556 4 жыл бұрын

Bloody awesome its really buzzy seeing these kind of videos just pure skills and knowledge

@FranciscoMartinez-zv2rw 5 жыл бұрын

I would have never thought about checking the hall to see it it’s all plumb. I usually pick out pretty straight wood tho but wow this is a really nice trick. Your awesome.

@andrewcady9443 5 жыл бұрын

In rail terminology, a fishplate, splice bar or joint bar is a metal bar that is bolted to the ends of two rails to join them together in a track. The name is derived from fish, a wooden bar with a curved profile used to strengthen a ship's mast.[1]

@erowidoz 5 жыл бұрын

it's a flitch beam.

@andrewcady9443 5 жыл бұрын

A flitch beam is something completely different, where you have a strong reinforcing steel layer in between layers of wood. The reinforcement spans the full length of the beam and isn't used to join segments end to end. A flitch beam (or flitched beam) is a compound beam used in the construction of houses, decks, and other primarily wood-frame structures. Typically, the flitch beam is made up of a vertical steel plate sandwiched between two wood beams, the three layers being held together with bolts. In that common form it is sometimes referenced as a steel flitch beam. Further alternating layers of wood and steel can be used to produce an even stronger beam. The metal plate(s) within the beam are known as flitch plates.[1]

@vincentsruggeri3698 5 жыл бұрын

In the states we call it a scab. Lol

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

@@erowidoz It's a fishplate (or cleat) Flitch is sandwiched between 2 other members of different material.

@tii2015 5 жыл бұрын

I've done plenty of framing and never seen that method of straightening. Absolutely brilliant! To the nay Sayers, that act of reinforcing on both sides with a sister, reestablishes the structural integrity. That 40mil cut won't affect anything. And like 8bitsim said, " if you want straight, use metal studs. (But that's not for sure either). Nothing is perfect, after all. TII

@MrDeano-eu9rg 2 жыл бұрын

This is a terrible method. Using a planer and packets is atleast 3 times faster and simpler...one tool.

@metaspencer 4 жыл бұрын

What an awesome technique! Love it

@johnmack1185 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time and posting a video. Haters gonna hate...Keep doing what you are doing.

@stevorider6753 4 жыл бұрын

The "fish plate" we call a cleat in Australia. Great video Scotty.

@liamthumath7494 2 жыл бұрын

"flitch" plate

@Mahigeer1 5 жыл бұрын

Good video. In US, we use 16" on center and also the drywall is on its long side, so it attaches to more studs.

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

That's becoming more common in NZ where this was filmed too. Most Drywall is installed on it's side here, as it reduces the amount of plastering

@synapticburn 3 жыл бұрын

@@paulrawlinson8653 thanks I have been trying to figure out in all his videos why the framing was so spaced out and why it had horizontal pieces as well. Never would have thought it's just to save time on drywall mud!

@Carpenters_Canvas 3 жыл бұрын

Always loving new ways I haven’t seen before , thanks

@knoppix20 5 жыл бұрын

Man, you save my house in build process!!! Great video!

@darbar2375 3 жыл бұрын

A flitch plate is a (usually steel) plate bolted between two 2x12's or other header material to give more strength than the lumber can on it's own. The reinforcements that you are putting on the studs to span the cuts, I've always called gussets.

@alantorrance6153 3 жыл бұрын

Your strengthening plates are "Fish Plates" a metal or wooden plate or slab, bolted to each of two members that have been butted or lapped together. Your "Flitch Plate" is a steel plate or girder between two wooden beams, like a middle/3rd beam in a special truss, to give vertical rigidity, whilst the wooden beams alongside it keep the flitch plate from flapping around like a fish.

@1starshot 3 жыл бұрын

Correct. The metal plates bolted either side of railway lines to join 2 together are also called fish plates.

@davidskeeterskeeter1835 5 жыл бұрын

Hi fellas,,I’ve worked in construction for 58 years,!,,BUT,,today I learned something new,!😀,,well done guys, from a really old geezer in the uk,👍💨👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇬🇧

@geechaplin4458 Жыл бұрын

Literally used the fish and chips technique for the first time the other day. Other chippie I was with had never seen it. Cheer bro.

@alexglendening6798 5 жыл бұрын

That brings me so much joy when you straighten that wall up. I wish all framers in the us did that. Trying to do finish work on messed up walls isn’t fun

@seanbailey8545 3 жыл бұрын

It's the 'not my job' mentality of working on a building site.

@MrDeano-eu9rg 3 жыл бұрын

For real? I'm a carpenter in Australia and we do the entire job from frame to hand over. This way is slow and complicated. In Australia this is called straightening the walls and is part of the 'lock up' stage and not framing. I try to get it as close to perfect as possible.

@seanbailey8545 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDeano-eu9rg Trust me it's even worse if it's a Friday and people are waiting to clock off. You get wires and pipes in the middle of no where. Doors that won't open cos they hung them the wrong way..

@allynloring6095 3 жыл бұрын

Thing is from the time the framers leave till the time drywall is hung and is ready for the finish work the walls are not going to be the same ... even if the framer does straighten it out....

@MrDeano-eu9rg 3 жыл бұрын

@@allynloring6095 only of its left in the rain or really strange weather. The walls in my country don't get straightened until the roof is on and the cladding is done.

@Markus314159 5 жыл бұрын

my dad called them a "scab" when he was a framer. Like a scab covers a wound.

@themagpie_1 3 жыл бұрын

same

@flytomahawk2327 3 жыл бұрын

We call em band- aids haha for the same reason.

@420somewhere4 3 жыл бұрын

Thats what we called it in carpenters union in Chicago.

@RagedContinuum 2 жыл бұрын

ya it's a scab right? Flitch plates are metal and sandwich with scabs Ithink

@jc_hz4196 3 жыл бұрын

I am not going to lie, I thought after doing construction for so long, thought this video was useless, little did I knew I would learn something new, Good job we should always stay student, always and have the openness to learn something new. I know I did. Good video.

@clevelandexplorer2221 5 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic guys, thanks for sharing indeed!

@dangiles5038 5 жыл бұрын

Crowning studs when building a wall ensures if there is any bow in the timber they all run the same way.

@dirkdiggler5525 5 жыл бұрын

Dan Giles mark a c on the stud in the direction of the crown??

@owenprince4823 5 жыл бұрын

cutting the studs like that make for a very weak wall. do it right with the crowns all one way. do it right or do not waste your time.

@brandonfrancey5592 5 жыл бұрын

Strength would matter only if it's structural. This wall is not so it doesn't matter.

@Markus314159 5 жыл бұрын

He said at the beginning that the wood was straight when they installed it a few days before

@RiffmuirKennels 5 жыл бұрын

A good stud wall must be crowned or in Scottish terms "roonds all facing same way, which is done prior to fixing looking down length and looking at growth rings on end telling you how it will twist" on building it and you can straighten with eye through the studs to fix any issues as eyeing can fix most issues that are slight. As my old journeyman told me if it looks right by eye its right. Select your timber eradicates all plumb issues in the first place build with crap get crap.

@craigmcewan2762 5 жыл бұрын

I call them timber gusset plates or flitch plates, prefer to run my eye down the studs first before constructing the frame so they all bow the same way, perhaps u put them alternate for strength when using this method?

@tomsmith9048 4 жыл бұрын

I use the same method as you saves alot of messing around also no need for cuts on every timber as every second or third stud will pull the wall within building regulations

@danawright3099 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice, I learned something new. Thanks

@OldAndGettingOlder 5 жыл бұрын

Nice tip. You make it look easy and I bet it actually is. Thanks.

@JohnComeOnMan 5 жыл бұрын

Ever think of crowning your studs when framing?

@thebobloblawshow8832 3 жыл бұрын

I take it technique is only used on non load bearing walls.

@aspees 2 жыл бұрын

In Australia you can do it on up to 20% of the studs in a house. Load bearing walls can be crippled. The plates and nails take all of the compression load.

@aspees 2 жыл бұрын

The code is 50% max cut(45mm). Reinforced by 42 x 20 x 600 long on each side with (4) 50mm framing nails per side. In ft/inch cut half way thru a 2 x 4, reinforce it with 3/4” x 2” x 2’ on each side with (4) 2” nails per side.You can cripple any stud in an AU house except for the obvious one(openings, high load, or multiples in a row on a load bearing wall) It’s described with diagrams in the building code framing book.

@josephpowers3839 5 жыл бұрын

Great video it's nice to see someone who cares about their work. Nice job.

@mrdavidurquhart 5 жыл бұрын

So educational. Thank you very much.

@vzgsxr 5 жыл бұрын

1. I call them fish plates here in Australia. 2. Grade and sight your studs as you cut and install them. Cut the very worst lengths up for blocks/noggings. After that I always use the worst 2 studs on the very ends of the wall, that way you can pull the middle of the stud straight as you nail them off against the adjoining wall. If you install all the studs with the spring/bow in the same direction, you will rarely have to cripple them to straighten them. Not many people will notice a 3mm bow in a 2.4 long stud by eye - especially once the plasterboard has been installed. 3. Why use 90x45 framing for an internal wall? Seems overkill. 70x45 is generally more that adequate for 2.4m high internal wall frames.

@garethryder1144 5 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure thats the standard size in nz from memory

@slipperygypsy1366 5 жыл бұрын

@@garethryder1144 ASNZ standards

@vzgsxr 4 жыл бұрын

@Deanoss Last Yes I'm for real, worked for multiple companies that use 70x45 for internal wall frames. (All engineer designed of course). Why throw money away on 90mm internal wall framing unnecessarily? And what is exactly tedious about sighting your timber as you pick it up? Using my eyes before I install a stud saves me having to even get my planer out to straighten the wall. If you have to get your planer out to straighten a newly built wall, then you shouldn't even call yourself a chippy. 😂

@vzgsxr 4 жыл бұрын

@Deanoss Last I don't know what part of Australia you live in, but 90mm internal frames are not very common in my 20+ years in residential construction. Considering 90% of modern homes have truss a roof, the internal frames are only non load bearing partition walls. So framing them in 90mm is a complete waste of money and materials. Also I'm curious, how is installing a door jamb in a 70mm frame and different from installing in a 90mm frame?

@vzgsxr 4 жыл бұрын

@Deanoss Last Maybe different code down there? Been building in Sydney my entire life, 70mm walls are common here. Even seen a few external walls 70mm with 600mm stud spacing (definitely wouldn't be doing that one in my own home though).

@insurancepro826 5 жыл бұрын

This is called a fish plate. The better way is to use a crowned full stud and turn the crown opposite. I nail top and bottom and then use hand clamp to squeeze the two studs into alignment with each other in the middle and then nail fully together. Needs to be done prior to electrical/plumbing. This will usually take the bow out and can be done on bearing walls. You can do (and I have done) as suggested with non bearing although I usually add a full height straight stud rather than just a partial fish plate. You don't want to do to many studs adjacent or it will weaken the wall significantly. If it's really bad you need to cut out and replace the studs with new straight studs. If you are getting too many bad studs, then get a new source. Also, it only takes a minute or two to crown all the studs first to keep the wave out. A bowed wall without a wave usually looks pretty good. P.S. A flitch plate, as others have commented, is steel and wood combined.

@DiscoFang 5 жыл бұрын

Yep, the name is from the strengthening plate in a ship's mast. Funny the other unintentional puns that appear when the nautical theme is revealed - bow, wave, bearing, crown, beam, studding...

@stevet5379 5 жыл бұрын

A "fish" plate is more typically used in welding when fixing an I beam frame and does resemble the tail of a fish. A fitch plate is more commonly used in carpentry but is usually made of steel.

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

Using a full stud uses more wood. Many frames are supplied complete like this, so you are working with what you've been supplied. HOwever, Scott has gone OTT doing this for a 2 mm deviation. Generally you're only going to do this with 5mm + deviation.

@andrewacton5885 3 жыл бұрын

here in the northeast USA, I have never seen this done except on a bathroom wall stud in house built in late 1800s-early 1900s. when i saw it I giggled, thats a neat little trick these old timers did! never seen it again until your video

@law35penn 4 жыл бұрын

Thx u so much for this. I honestly never knew this and here i am looking at every single 2x4 i bought making sure its straight.

@justinbennett9998 4 жыл бұрын

Keep checking the 2*4s. That's the proper way. This guy is a jackass. You DONT cut studs. You can only damage 1/3 of what you install. That's allowed for the electricians and plumbers. There is no allotment for that unless you're dropping studs 12 inches on center. I assume you're going 14 on center or 16 set ahead.

@manofausagain 5 жыл бұрын

should first make sure the two studs that you mount your gauge blocks on are straight.

@wompbozer3939 5 жыл бұрын

manofausagain You’re right man. Most people don’t grasp that concept.

@cliftonobrien588 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely but it was hard to see if that last stud against the wall was nailed half way up. if not that one stud can throw the whole thing off

@josargor8179 5 жыл бұрын

that's why i always chalk line my stuns that's butting against a wall if possible

@johnparker7784 5 жыл бұрын

He should never touch another tool for the rest of his life. He has no idea what he's doing.

@spartan7golf819 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha! Do it right the first time. I'd fire you if I caught you doing this.

@br6145 5 жыл бұрын

Why is the lumber dyed pink? Does it denote a rating such as structural/fire retardant, treated etc? Never seen that in the US. Good stuff.

@ScottBrownCarpentry 5 жыл бұрын

I had a go at answering that in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdF7gpiendDNoJc.html it's basically color coding for borer/fungi timber treatments. Our basic grade of timber, the minimum allowed in a house, is almost always pink.

@br6145 5 жыл бұрын

Scott Brown Carpentry got it! 👍

@nickalexander5940 5 жыл бұрын

The pink color means its fire rated....

@frameriteairdrie578 5 жыл бұрын

You must've typed that answer with your cellphone, because it "auto corrected" colour to the American spelling!

@iatsd 5 жыл бұрын

It's a by product of the treatment it received. The wood for interior framing is lightly treated and the stuff used (boron, usually) leaves it pink. As you go to grades rated for exterior use and submersion you'll see it change colour to green due to the different (copper, boron, and cyanide) chemicals used. www.nztpc.co.nz/hazardClassDescription.php

@gsf67 3 жыл бұрын

I did a carpentry course at unitec, and I understood that a plate used for strengthening and stability was a fish plate or cleat, which is attached to a stud, and a flitch plate was used a form of nogging between two parallel members to give these members or beams rigidity.

@lucastudor5536 Жыл бұрын

Man, drywall guys must love you! You're, making their job sooo much easier. Don't get me wrong though, I don't go out of my way to make their job harder but over here, in America, we dont usually go that crazy to perfect rough framing, except for leveling and squaring it up. You do know that they get paid per hour so you dont want to have to make them pack up and go to another jobsite. Haha just kidding! Keep it up you king!

@8bitsim 5 жыл бұрын

If you want a straight wall use metal studwork

@pauln6335 5 жыл бұрын

Agree with metal studs. Some people have started using LSL now as well

@mjona1754 5 жыл бұрын

@@pauln6335 what's LSL?

@fordrac1ng81 5 жыл бұрын

LSL = Laminated strand lumber, LVL = laminated veneer lumber. Both used traditionally as beams, but now are getting used as framing lumber for jobs where straight framing is a must.

@mjona1754 5 жыл бұрын

@@fordrac1ng81 Ah, got you!!! Here in the UK we normally call it gluelam!!!! Didn't realise they did it as small as 100 x 50mm.

@vincentpaynecole 5 жыл бұрын

Mitch King not to mention carbon sequestration!

@Codger2015 3 жыл бұрын

Flitch plates are typically steel plates used to strengthen wood beam members so in this stud straightening exercise the use of the plywood plate serves a similar purpose, adding strength and integrity to the stud.

@TheHeavyend81 2 жыл бұрын

A fish plate does a similar job but is steel/wrought iron and used to join railway tracks, however modern railway tracks have longer sections with spring clips.

@christianwithers7335 Жыл бұрын

Nope, a fish plate is your lunch or tea, normally served with chips

@durovin 5 жыл бұрын

Very good. May come in handy in the future. Thanks.

@alfredoandroid357 3 жыл бұрын

Nice you guys frame at a different level I seen most guys just skim coat the wall , till they are straight

@hendrax5889 5 жыл бұрын

Its a flitch. used in many different ways. just an added layer to give strength where larger timbers can not be used. We use them a lot in the UK for floor and roof joists when head height is a problem. we can change an 8x2 floor joists to a 4x2 floor joist when adding a flitch plate to the side. normally a 10mm steel plate bolted along side, full length, to give it the same structural detail as the 8x2 and gaining 100mm of head height in a conversion project.

@lnesland 5 жыл бұрын

Nice trick. Why is the studs pink? In Norway they are natural color of white/brown, as most wood is made from spruce.

@Nachiel 5 жыл бұрын

lnesland in russia studs are pink, when they have been covered by antiseptic and fire resistanse fluid.

@neamataufa8642 5 жыл бұрын

They are pink because its treated timber. Most likely H1.2 (hazard class rating). Mainly used for interiors of the house. Timber that will be exposed to the weather, like bearers and fence posts etc, will usually be H3.2 and will have a greenish colour.

@dirkdiggler5525 5 жыл бұрын

lnesland so bloody cool ready about lumber around the world.. here in Canada we also use spruce and it is natural wood colour.. we do have PT wood pressure treated which is green or brown and always soaked in the summer..

@iatsd 5 жыл бұрын

In NZ all wood for building is treated. The colour comes from the treatment applied, from the lightest at H1 level (usually a boron or cyanide mix or similar) up to H6 which is where it's treated under pressure and they throw everything at it (boron, copper, cyanide, all sorts of crap). It's all rated on an "Hazard scale" from 1 to 6 and the H number specifies the type of use you can put it to. H1 is the lightest treatment and can only be used indoors where there is no weather exposure. So, interior framing and the like. H6 is for stuff in constant contact with water or underground. So, piers and deck piles into water, etc. The H rating also tells you how long you can expect it to last. For example, H4 is rated for ground contact and being buried (deck pile is a common use) and rated to not start rotting within 75 years. www.nztpc.co.nz/hazardClassDescription.php

@badad0166 5 жыл бұрын

I came in here to find out about the pink and got lost in all the conflicting opinions. Name calling. Vitriol. Then I saw this and was "Oh, yeah, right, pink. What's with the pink? The bracing was so linear I wasn't sure at first if they weren't going to leave it. Maybe the pink was paint. But when the saw came out I knew that idea that was finished...

@TheAudiostud 5 жыл бұрын

I've heard of a Flitch Beam which I guess is what you Guys are constructing as long as it works & you know what it is! Great Work, Well Done!

@philippussandt6445 5 жыл бұрын

Scott thanks I'm leaning from you a lesson to trait up a hooden wall frame Thanks friend God bless

@clintjones1193 5 жыл бұрын

Wow Scott there certainly some “professional” commentary on this video, probably most of it from abroad. For those of you experts not in NZ the Radiata Pine we use for the majority of our building grows extremely fast, a lot of it is harvested is 25 years and a lot is grown in pretty crap areas on sides of hills that a goat would find hard work. As such there’s a lot of tension in some of the timber and the rapid growth make it prone to distortion during drying, because of this the grade rules are perhaps a bit more lenient than in some countries because otherwise there would be no recovery but the allowable distortion in the grade rules should be such that it can be straightened with methods such as that shown. I’m not sure on the argument to put them crook all one way as that would put all the tension in the wall in one direction? We just use LvL exclusively - no straightening required

@sundog8772 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it’s called crowning the studs. We do it here in Canada and it works very well.

@Albertouy 2 жыл бұрын

@@sundog8772 Chatting to a Canadan tree planter she mentioned pine in NZ grows faster than in Canada

@sundog8772 2 жыл бұрын

@@Albertouy Right, this was mentioned in the above comment to which I responded. I was referring to the installation of studs with the crown facing outwards to avoid a wavy effect. It’s common practice here in Canada.

@fordrac1ng81 5 жыл бұрын

We always called those scab boards.

@GregariousAntithesis 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea, wish i had lnow about this 20 years ago. So this is structurally sound for use on a load bearing wall?

@freespacexl Жыл бұрын

Boom, came from the future (reno series). Great video, even better that you check its straight and don't just assume and gib! 😅

@cabbyhubby 5 жыл бұрын

Framers used to straighten walls years ago, but I havent seen this lately, I wish they still did though, we do use fingerjoint studs which are a tad straighter than traditional studs

@LegendaryGoetz 5 жыл бұрын

JohnnyBDyer we still crown our studs, wood tends to bend over time anyways. A wall is straight when we put it up, but over time the studs bend over time

@jonhare392 5 жыл бұрын

I used to work on a framing clean up crew that made sure the walls were straight for the cabinets and such. We used strong backs on big humps and planers to take out little ones on walls before stucco or drywall. We followed the production framers and they were working piece rate. We were hourly and cared a lot more about our end product. In California Desert you could hear the lumber creaking at night as it cooled down.

@philthy122 5 жыл бұрын

Finger joined is just a fancy way to use firewood.

@ItAintMeBabe99 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting !. How do you know that the first & last beams (against the walls) are not bowed? If they are, you might be taking a perfectly straight board and bending it to match the curved 1st beam. Hmmmmm !

@bunsdad4530 5 жыл бұрын

You are just placing all of the drywall in one plane. But it would be easier to just crown the lumber to start?

@rangerousdave 5 жыл бұрын

Those "beams" are called studs, and when you frame a wall you straighten the top and bottom plates and plumb the end studs. Therefore when you check straightness you are checking from two end points that are meant to plane out.

@defy2598 5 жыл бұрын

fuck this is a dumb comment

@jessethats1972 5 жыл бұрын

* always remember to plum both ends before setting up string line *

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

because you checked that before moving on to this step

@seanhiscock 3 жыл бұрын

I have never seen, let alone heard, of this but I've checked a few other sites. This should save time. Thanks for sharing

@johnepperson8867 5 жыл бұрын

Very clever gentlemen!!! I've never seen that done before.

@rex8255 5 жыл бұрын

That was really interesting. I've put up walls i n USA, California, and we do it completely differently. Te studs are closer (16", or 40.6 cm), not as many horizontal joists, and we tend to hang the sheet rock horizontally rather than vertically. We DO (or are at least are supposed to) leave a bit of space at the bottom as I noticed you did.

@isaacmac1395 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer to place my sheets horizontal as well. They could get that one wall done with two long horizontal sheets. Not heaps of verticals. Can go either direction here in New Zealand 🇳🇿

@MrZeddy100 Жыл бұрын

Exactly the same is Aussie mate! We usually do 17 inch stud centres. Cheers 🍻

@MrTomomahony 5 жыл бұрын

FLITCH as in flitch beam great vid though keep going

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

Fish plate. Flitch is a plate of different material sandwiched between 2 timber beams (See Flitch Beam)

@Flapswgm 3 жыл бұрын

Love the camera man's comments. Great Vid.

@BoldWittyName 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose the effort was worth it because with only vertical factory drywall joints the drywall mud won't build it out too much. Neat!

@Historyprepares 5 жыл бұрын

tried in load bearing wall, house fell down, what now?

@CM-xr9oq 5 жыл бұрын

This technique is not suitable for all applications, i.e. load-bearing walls. Use your head.

@Historyprepares 5 жыл бұрын

@@CM-xr9oq can't use my head, house fell on it

@samuelslade6588 5 жыл бұрын

use a carjack and timber stump to jack house up

@mikedeman5351 5 жыл бұрын

You're going to need a very large brush and pan, or an industrial vacuum to suck up all the debris.

@william_mason 5 жыл бұрын

Add bigger fish plates xD

@junkyarddawgs9956 5 жыл бұрын

Crown all stud up while lying on the floor when building the wall ,that way you will be able to see each stud beforehand so that you can eliminate bad studs from your pile of studs and put them in a separate pile for other use. This will help in keeping your walls as straight as possible without going through alot of trouble. Just my way not the only way. Nice video will help .

@justinbennett9998 4 жыл бұрын

Came to say this. My first job as a framer was hauling lumber. When it came time for me to lay out walls for a nailer if I hadn't already culled every single stick I would catch them in the face. You're only going to eat so many 2*4s before you learn to build a straight/flush wall. This is a waste of time and money.

@MrJak427 3 жыл бұрын

@@justinbennett9998 Well we don’t all live we’re you do A lot of places get prefab walls and roof trusses ie the whole frame gets built in a facility then delivered to site might get left out in the weather for a week if delivered in winter Then you stand the frame up according to a frame trust plan. You must straighten the wall’s when building a house like this otherwise you’d have dark shadows in your walls 😂😂 from all the hollows

@TONY-nl6yv 5 жыл бұрын

Wow interesting I learn something new . If I ever run into this problem. Ivan do this to one or two stud but not entire wall . Knowing me if I had more then 3 I probably be quicker to just replace the studs . But I like new ideas . Good vid . I ran into this problem once one stud was off I had no more to replace . This is go great idea to for a quick fix .

@jmuse2k 4 жыл бұрын

Good job. I learnt something new

@scottpreston5074 5 жыл бұрын

I have to remark that the general quality of your lumber seems pretty good. Maybe I'm just imagining it, but it also looks like you have actual "2×4" studs. Our lumber companies have been selling us Americans "nominal" 2×4s for a long time. The only actual actual 2x4s I find are in 100 year old buildings.

@silvebringer1 5 жыл бұрын

Depend where u live i quess.

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

Those studs are gauged ex 2 x 4, they end up as 90mm x 45mm (3-9/16" x 1-3/4") Most of our older houses (70 yrs +) have roughsawn 4 x 2 framing

@woodsmith8439 3 жыл бұрын

“Fish” plate. Used in elevators to connect the guide rails. Same principle.

@adamtwydle3537 3 жыл бұрын

also railway tracks

@alirezash210 10 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video. I'm just wondering whether planing the bowed studs would be a good solution, so I's really appreciate if you could please comment. Thank you kindly.

@alejandrocaballero7197 5 жыл бұрын

What hammer is that? I swing a stiletto, just curious what hammer you use, it’s a good looking hammer,

@bdormer1 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see a true craftsman at work. Most framers would just slap up the sheetrock. You took maybe 20 minutes and made the wall true.

@iddddaduncan 5 жыл бұрын

most framers would either use better lumber or crown their boards,these guys are definitely working T&M and not by the job.

@delz3501 5 жыл бұрын

I used that method when I was a kid

@robertr7887 5 жыл бұрын

Its a non bearing partition wall. Its only purpose is to divide the room. Im pretty sure he plumb the end 2x4 using a level. Looks good from my house. Thanks for the tips! Congrats on passing inspection👍

@davidkeppler37 5 жыл бұрын

This technique works great on wall studs. Thanks I have a 6 x 6 post that is beginning to bend on my porch from a poorly cut notch at the rim joist. Have you ever used this method on thicker lumber? Or any other ideas to fix the problem. Thanks!

@alexrodger751 4 жыл бұрын

It could potentially work, but a post usually is a different kettle of fish as it’s usually fully structural. As it’s on your porch I’d also wonder if it’s more to do with the weather, as even posts bigger start to bow when they get rain then sun shine on them (wet then dry, wet then dry etc) If you wanted you could try using angle iron with bolts to try pull the timber back? Set it up as a feature sort of thing perhaps?

@LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC 5 жыл бұрын

i have a few walls in my home that have a drywall deflation of 2"....you can see them curve via your eye....most fast home-builders don't spend the time to straighten walls.

@amtm4185 4 жыл бұрын

Accuracy Marked that’s exactly what happened in a new home I bought. Bowed walls. The builders just don’t seem to take time and put care into their work.

@fromanabe8639 5 жыл бұрын

You should glue the "flitch" plates, in addition to nailing or screwing them. Just nailing doesn't restore their original strength.

@VasilyKiryanov 5 жыл бұрын

+100500. So simple - apply a coat of glue on the wedge, and the whole unit becomes even stronger.

@fanaticz666 5 жыл бұрын

It's just not required in the nz standards to glue it so we don't

@paulrawlinson8653 5 жыл бұрын

Because of the Gib board each side these studs are only taking vertical loading, so the fish platesreturn more than required integrity

@theflood1000 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid! Thanks guys!

@psulion31 3 жыл бұрын

Cool, as a US DIYer it’s interesting to see how y’all build differently, like the fire blocks between the studs

@tomsassurance 5 жыл бұрын

This is hysterical.

@scorpiuswireless1 5 жыл бұрын

Shut up fool.

@gregorybates9081 5 жыл бұрын

What's your qualification please?

@KingParisBuckingham 4 жыл бұрын

Yo am in nyc laughing at these guys too ( been a carpentet-builder for 28years),these guys are bozos..a newly built wall should be built with lines pulled to frsme it straight first time....( this they did is for a very old wall....thry fuckedup, they did not first time build like a pros,thses guys drink on the job,only if you're drunk you could build a wall crooked or if you just an amateur

@cornpop7805 4 жыл бұрын

Works well, assuming you're two end boards were straigt to begin with. Also, I would use wood glue on the wedges, just for good luck!

@bopexplorer3663 5 жыл бұрын

If it works and is an acceptable method, perfect. I used to do this, but more often nowadays, il use a 2nd piece (flitch plate!) as long as possible, nail it to one end of the stud with it protruding out from the other end. Then it's just a matter of pulling on it to straighten the stud and nailing in place. Hit it with a Planer if necessary, job done. Also helps to reinforce the crooked stud. Nice work bro. Ka pai tō mahi.