and a church that doesn't make one do so.

@@MsMsmak the fallen world we're born into is what makes people think such, and that isn't the fault of the Church. It's through the teachings of the Church that we can know we're *all* created in the image and likeness of God, and therefore have hope in Him, despite the corruptions and false hopes peddled by a culture that hates Him.

@@ironymatt Fascinating. Talk about delusional thinking...everything you say is literally made up nonsense.

@@MsMsmak made up nonsense? The alternative to the idea that the world is fallen is that the world is perfect, ie there's nothing wrong with it. Do you believe there's nothing wrong with the world?

To all you poor folks out there, you all deserve a great life that does not involve hating being hungry or homeless.

Yep it’s the first thing I do!

yeah I don't even listen to what he's saying, I just assume he's right because we share the same faith. that's the power of God 🙏

@@veryexciteddog963 No, that's called fascism.

Dont be a shill. Actually listen to the video and actually give him real feedback.

@@MsMsmak don't be cringe

Of course, it’s emotional manipulation. It’s hard to be a kid, it’s hard to go through puberty. But it’s especially hard now because of social media and what they’re exposed to online. Children shouldn’t be on social media. Heck, no one should be on it. Facebook, Instagram, tiktok, Snapchat, all that stuff is pure poison.

Yea. As a kid, I had always been averse to social media because I learned in class that it was addictive, and I figured the best way to quit addictions is to never start one.

I agree, Killian Miller. This statement is a textbook abusive relationship line.

It's quite the opposite the moment they become Trans a lot of them do attempt to commit suicide. It is statistically proven even when they do get a lot of support than the long waiting game happens either because they are old or figured out the people who "accepted" them don't do so genuinely and deep down realize they are only playing along. Even the ones where they are happy at first after genital mutilation because depressed. (And of course some advocates will try to argue this but fail to realize they have a confirmation bias I seen Muslims dismantle these ridiculous arguments and fallacies causing the transexual to insult the Muslims religion and lose the argument because they never have been arguing around the objective reality around them and no I am not endorsing Islam by any means but if other religions are able to tell and dismantle it that should tell you something.) Of course some would try to argue "they didn't get the support they needed" isn't true in other countries how ever there will always be people that will not affirm for whom they are because the idea a man can become a woman or vice versa is an absolute absurdity and is asking people to change but humans do not work that way. You will have people that do not care about anyone other feelings and confront them about it. How ever even other groups that have been under a worse of scrutiny do not face the same suicidal rates as seen in trans. I guess the simple phrase is this. Disorder leads to more disorder. Are we to cut an arm off because they are people that think they are better without it? Are men multiple limbs because they are people born with them it must be the norm and not an abnormality?

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Koé, mano

While bishops and pastors should be speaking out on this, they also need the support of laity. I'm confident that people like Trent Horn and Jason Evert-along with you and I-speaking out on it will lead to the clergy having the tools they need to also speak out on it.

The fact is that sometimes priests aren’t as integrated in “worldly” culture as lay people. Some priests where I live even live quite lonely lives, because people on the pews won’t invite them into their houses, just ask them for prayers or the sacraments, which is great, but priests are people too. They need friends.

Indeed

Do you mean "by" a thousand...?

@@youkokun good catch

I agree, but I think he is talking exclusively about dealing with the victims of this evil, not the perpetrators of it

Oh please. Stop watching Fox news for a minute,

This happened to Chloe Cole at 15

@@MsMsmak I do not watch Fox. I simply use my eyes, ears, and brain to see what is happening for what it is.

@@blutausbeherit Ah yes. That's what passes for Catholic deep thinking. LOL

exactly, real dysphoria was so rare that hardly anyone knew about it. What's going on right now is not dysphoria, but socio-cultural insanity and should be treated as such.

@@zzc8505I think social contagion can bring about real gender dysphoria. It’s similar to how a teenage girl can develop body dysphoria from observing other women in her life struggling with eating disorders. We learn from those around us who model gender norms. If a young girl observes her female friends and relatives unhappy with their own femininity, she might internalize those attitudes as normal behaviors for women and learn to genuinely hate her own femininity. So, yes, social contagion is certainly at the heart of the issue, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the people affected by it aren’t experiencing real gender dysphoria. It’s a complex issue that must be handled delicately, as Jason and Trent stress.

@@MarianMetanoia "real" gender dysphoria should be a medical condition with clear symptoms and a diagnosis. No "social contagion" can bring about a real medical condition. Not everyone observing other women in life struggling with body image develops body dysphoria --- hence, one has to prove scientifically that such observation causes body dysphoria. You may want to really study a bit deeper what constitutes a "real" medical condition and what constitutes the result of brainwashing and psychological manipulation. So, no "real" gender dysphoria cannot arise from social engineering.

Speaking the same language is the prerequisite for all discussion. It's either you adapt to the words of today or you lose your voice and with it your relevance.

You should know the words that they use, but you don't have to speak like they do. For example, if someone says that they are Pro-choice but yet kill babies we do not affirm that they are really Pro-choice. We bring to light that their choice is not a baby's choice, or ask what about the choice of the father/mother that doesn't want to abort the baby. Also, what about people having a choice to take a vaccine. At the end it comes down to that they are Pro-abortion and not really Pro-choice.

The point is long passed. They took the culture by force. We should tell the truth point blank and let the confidence in truth draw them back rather than take this feminine nurturing please oh please just talk with me approach.

Not only that, take into account that most boys are institutionally mentally abused for most of their schooling and young life, this is often present in their homes where their parents express similar positions to the institutions that they, for being boys, are evil and bad. They are being told every day of their lives that the things they love they should hate, and what they hate they should love. Its just like the fat acceptance movement. Its nothing more than mental abuse directed towards society to further gain from the suffering of a minority that is then used as 1) A whip to whip people into line for political popularity (soft political orthodoxy) and 2) shut down all dissent by using the suffering of these people (who are convinced that their suffering is actually happiness) as a shield. (hence always: "WHAT ARE YOU AGAINST WOMEN! WOMENS RIGHTS! YOU HOMOFOBE)

Huh, wierd, it's almost like, good men sat around and did, NOTHING. *whips out tiny violin* Keep crying

Gee, I wonder why she rejected you.

@@pixelprincess9 Well I'm happily married now with two kids. Whatever you think of me the example proves my point. Hope you haven't taken something I've said out of context or in a tone I didn't intend to convey.

@@IISeverusll I hadn't spoken to her in 10 years when I found out about all this. Now we regularly speak.

The left eats itself. You dodged a bullet. Sadly the kids didnt

Yes we have to talk about it. Keeping your kids from this conversation is also a mistake. You need to address disorders as a parent so they are better prepared to handle when they see it, because they will see it sooner or later, and they need to know how to address it. “Teach a child the way they should go…” I live by that proverb. It’s one of my favorites, because it’s true. I encourage you to look it up and reflect on it.

If they don’t hear it from you, then I’m afraid they’ll eventually hear it from the groomers, and they’ll be much more vulnerable to transgenderism. Of course we should maintain the innocence of children, but we should be ready if the question ever comes up.

Before any of this is spoken to a child the child first needs to know about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Not just what's said on Sunday's, but they should read the four gospels.

Assuming perversion is your bigotry showing. Just because *you* would feel perverted if you went through transition doesn't mean others do. It just means *you* shouldn't transition.

well put

Our Lord dined with sinners to bring them to repentance and be closer to him. So should it be with us.

@@pixelprincess9 And I'm not saying we shouldn't. But let's also remember, that when Jesus gave His followers the teaching on the Eucharist, all but His 12 apostles walked away, and He let them. But if we're putting ourselves in the mind of Jesus, which do you think is more likely? He comes back and you ask him to address you as Michael instead of Michaela as you identify as a boy. Do you think He starts referring to you as Michael? Or do you think he says "My precious daughter, I change names all the time when I want to give someone a new identity. But your identity has not changed. You want to be called Michael, which means: who is like god? Well my sweet girl, you are not God, and therefore cannot change your identity. And so, while I still love you, because I love you, I must refer to you as Michaela. Because that's who you are."?

Yep. Give them a hand they will take an arm.

Amen

Patently ridiculous assertion. I wish some of you people would actually get out and meet some trans people.

@@MsMsmak patently ridiculous? Transgender was barely a thing (it was less than a tenth of ya percent of the population) until it took over the internet 3 or so years ago. I have now met multiple people who claim to be transgender. All of them showed no indication before a couple years ago. There are clusters of girls suddenly coming out as transgender in high school and many are on the spectrum. They showed no indication before then. These are just flat facts. Do I think there are those who legitimately struggle with identity issues? Absolutely. What we are going through now is not that. There are still those who legitimately struggle, but there are now thousands more who are caught up in the craze. What is worse about that is that we are immediately “affirming” them at any age and giving them body-altering medications or worse yet, surgeries, when they aren’t anywhere near old enough to understand the life-long consequences. There will be a reckoning for this. There are already many who have tried to detransition only to find out they are now sterile and have lasting physical ailments. I know you believe you are being the loving one…but you are actually allowing children to take steps that will destroy their lives. It will come out one day. Heck, in Europe, they are already pumping the brakes on this stuff. And, as to my childhood anecdotal evidence. It is all true. And, if not allowing people to be affirmed causes them to commit suicide, then you would expect mass unexplained suicides from all those who were prevented. But, actually, suicides are higher now that it is more acceptable. Heck, not just acceptable, but praised by the culture. Do data sets matter when discussing science? So, there is nothing ridiculous about what I wrote.

we're not just changing their bodies. that would be bad enough. but we're literally castrating children. cutting their breasts off. sterilizing them for life. preventing them from going through puberty so they become deformed, sickly, diminutive people who will never be taller than 5'3". we're permanently destroying their ability to have sex or an orgasm. we're condemning them to extreme medical complications like infections of the synthetic holes that have been carved out of their groins. to having their voice permanently ruined. we're cutting 10+ years off their lifespan, and that's assuming they don't commit suicide first. the consequences are so unbelievably horrific. there's no word for this but evil.

@@ToxicallyMasculinelol thank you. I was being too careful with my language.

@@ToxicallyMasculinelol That is such absolute bullshit. Were you homeschooled in backwater Mississippi by an illiterate dog walker or something? How utterly incredibly stupid do you have to be to say that stuff??

Yes he would love them, but I would argue that the sinners would dine with him and taught them to sin no more.

What sins are those

LOL. Now that's what I call a conspiracy theory! From Trans Ideology Central Command": HEY EVERYONE!! LISTEN UP. We're now banning ALL traces of ANY trans related material that doesn't say what we WE want it to say!!! Got it?? OK, now everyone go out there and find that crap and DELETE it from the internet, and science journals, and medical association publications, and university libraries, and ANYWHERE else you can find it!!! LOLOL

Absolutely! The sexual perversion angle is deliberately deemphasized here and i have no idea why when Mr. Evert does know about young women and pornography/erotica. Yaoi, fandom culture etc poison hearts and minds.

It's all fetish

Ncbi is a good start. "Personality Disorder than the controls. Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory. Results of the Summers and Walsh Symbiosis Scale suggested that mothers of probands had child-rearing attitudes and practices that encouraged symbiosis and discouraged the development of autonomy." "Gender identity disorder (GID), recently renamed gender dysphoria (GD), is a rare condition characterized by an incongruity between gender identity and biological sex. Clinical evidence suggests that schizophrenia occurs in patients with GID at rates higher than in the general population and that patients with GID may have schizophrenia-like personality traits."

Try the Ruth Institute.

How about LISTENING to them instead. Maybe you'd learn something.

@@MsMsmak How to spot someone in bad faith. Let's honest you are not here at all in good faith thus no one here is obligated to entertain with your bad faith positions. Coming here with misnomer. I mean no disrespect but there is almost nothing worth listening about a delusion only the human experience and what got them there in the first place. Catholics do not oppose the truth and reality that we are bounded to.

@@vaderkurt7848 Really? You espouse reality but then believe that a wafer is the actual body of your christ, and the wine is his blood. You then EAT it. If that's what you call reality, then I laugh in your face.

@@MsMsmak bad faith party of one.... Your table is ready.

@@vaderkurt7848 A guy that gets his beliefs from a book that contains a talking snake and a talking donkey is talking about 'good faith'???? At least Balaam's donkey had an excuse, ie it was a donkey; what is yours?

That's not something Catholics do. Catholics are used to taking orders from above. When was the last time you sat down in church and had a "discussion with a priest" during mass? They tell you what to think, and how to act. The only listening the sheep are permitted to do is to the shepherd

Yes. Using words like "nonbinary" just affirms its belief.

Answer: the same as the number of angels.

@@MsMsmak that there are only 2 angels? :P

@@MsMsmak You're in every comment, and in every comment you're incapable of saying anything remarkably intelligent or useful. You're simply obsessed with us Catholics.

@@screwlessartur LOL. I used to be one of you. My Grandfather had one of the very few consecrated chapels in a private home in America. He founded the Catholic Medical Mission Board. My oldest Aunt served in the Maryknoll missions and was imprisoned by the Japanese in WWII. My father spent years in the Noviate but left and married my mother. I went to Catholic elementary school and catholic HS and then to a Jesuit College. So I've been through your indoctrination process from day one, and it taught me a few things. Your belief system is disgusting. You pray to an imaginary god. You pretend that a woman got pregnant without a man. You worship using cannibalism as your model. You believe in bukllshit miracles for profit. Your church has started wars just because of a power trip. Your favorite icon is a dead man nailed to a cross. Your church leaders are or support pedophiles. Your church hoards its massive wealth in the face of global poverty. Everything about your belief system is profane and immoral. And you have to gall to complain about people calling you out on it. EL OH EL.

@@MsMsmak Funny. Anything else, apostate?

Their image.... was self created. Due to leftist brainwashing.

No where, NO WHERE are children having surgery. That is some seriously made up conspiratorial nonsense.

Chloe Cole At 15 had it done now regrets it

To argue that soul is seperate from body is trying to argue from cartial dualism or just dualism. Even in apparitions of saints they still very much like how they were on earth. When we are resurrected with new bodies our bodies would be very much how they were on earth but purified.

@@vaderkurt7848 Since souls don't occupy space, it's hard to believe they have eyes, noses, or other things like that. So I'd love to know what makes them look as though they have properties that bodies have. No one I know of believes that since my body and my soul have eyes, I have four eyes, two noses, and four nostrils. I'm sure nobody will watch my soul float to the ceiling when I die.

@@williammcenaney1331 I don't know since I am not dead unless there is internet in heaven that can contact earth. 😅 But we are to be careful not to argue from dualism since it is strongly has its roots found in gnosticism. Because God originally intended the human body and soul to be one and the same. It is quite difficult to explain.

@@vaderkurt7848 The Catholic Church doesn't believe that the human body is a soul. No, it thinks that opinion is a heresy. So I believe Catholics need to know that there may be orthodox, non-gnostic kinds of dualism. Catholics rarely call St. Thomas Aquinas a dualist since he believes that each human person is composed of a body and an immortal human soul. Plato, Descartes, and Dr. William Lane Craig are substance dualists because they believe they are their immortal souls and that their bodies are their homes if you will. St. Paul compares his body to a tent, suggesting that he's not his body. St. Augustine is a substance dualist who rejects Gnosticism. So for his theology about the soul to be logically consistent and orthodox, he must reject Gnostic dualism. Prof. J.P. Moreland from Biola University agrees with St. Thomas Aquinas on the relationship between the body and the soul, and Moreland is hardly a Gnostic. See his book bout the soul, where he argues that the Bible distinguishes between the body and the immortal soul. Distinctions are essential, my friend. Most Seventh-day Adventists quote the King James version when they talk with me about soul sleep. But they may forget that some other Bible translations say "living being" instead of "living soul." Maybe Adam began to live when God breathed his immortal soul into his, Adam's nostrils. After all, "living" is more general than "living soul." Our Adventist friends conclude that we're our souls when those Christians quote a Bible verse saying "The dead know nothing." But if my soul is an immortal part of me that will survive and stay awake when I die, guess what. Although I may not know anything after I die and before Christ resurrects my body, a part of me, my soul, may still know things. That's why I hope you'll read St. Justin Martyr's second-century First apology, where he says that ours souls survive and stay awake after we die. He writes, "For reflect upon the end of each of the preceding kings, how they died the death common to all, which, if it issued in insensibility, would be a godsend to all the wicked. But since sensation remains to all who have ever lived, and eternal punishment is laid up (i.e., for the wicked), see that you neglect not to be convinced, and to hold as your belief, that these things are true. For let even necromancy, and the divinations you practise by immaculate children, and the evoking of departed human souls, and those who are called among the magi, Dream-senders and Assistant-spirits (Familiars), and all that is done by those who are skilled in such matters - let these persuade you that even after death souls are in a state of sensation; and those who are seized and cast about by the spirits of the dead, whom all call dæmoniacs or madmen; and what you repute as oracles, both of Amphilochus, Dodana, Pytho, and as many other such as exist; and the opinions of your authors, Empedocles and Pythagoras, Plato and Socrates, and the pit of Homer, and the descent of Ulysses to inspect these things, and all that has been uttered of a like kind. Such favour as you grant to these, grant also to us, who not less but more firmly than they believe in God; since we expect to receive again our own bodies, though they be dead and cast into the earth, for we maintain that with God nothing is impossible." www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm Here's another fun fact to reflect on if you reject body-soul dualism. In the Garden of Gethsemane, I think, Our Blessed Lord says that his soul is "sorrowful unto death." But that's a strange thing for him to say if he's his soul when he could have said, "I am sorrowful unto death" instead. Do you know anyone who thinks he differs from himself? If you do, you might ask him whether he's alluding to a property he gained or lost. I'm three hours older than I was at 2:06 a.m. this morning since it's not 5:06 a.m. But aging didn't change me into anyone else. Again, I'm not Jussi Bjorling, my favorite singer. If I had the nerve to compare my voice favorably to his, that would insult that wonderful Lutheran. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qaligbeT0pqldac.html Worse, if I were a woman, I'd insult Elina Garanca when I said I sang better than she did. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLSindh2sdrPk6c.html

@@williammcenaney1331 Your right meant to say we are rather incomplete without soul or body. But this is quite interesting.

He's a tool, and in it for the grift. No wonder no one mentioned him.

He is small potatoes

Of course the answer is 'Buy me a drink and you might find out."

The claim was genital operation would save lives (because of suicide), the reason the politician asked was so it could be clear people do not need the operation, because trans people do not necessarily kill themselves if they haven't gone operation. That's why this trans doctor testified in the first place, to optically have credibility. Of course he could have phrased it better than as a rhetorical question but people are clearly showing bad faith when being offended and not understanding the question. Don't forget the hearing was about minors' "gender-care". With liberals it's just an optics game and unfortunately the ones who aren't paying attention fall to their propaganda.

Ratio

God bless you and your endeavors, sorely needed.

@@youkokun Glad to help. :)

Blair White with whom I don’t agree with all the time has good balance on not wanting kids involved in this Blair is trans

Maybe start leaning the right way

If your obedience to your ideology comes before your obedience to the Church, then I'm sorry to tell you but you're not Catholic. As a Catholic your priority should be to attempt to understand the reasoning of the Church in a subject that you feel contradicted at. And if you end up not being able to understand it at all then that's when obedience comes in. Just obey. We are soldiers, for Christ's sake.

Oh wow! 😣😥

That is an absolute outrage.

And are fast tracking suicide as medicine.

@@mike-cc3dd Yes. It's pure evil.

Yeah no duh that's what concession and playing along by THEIR rules gets you.

Gender dysphoria has become more of a fad than an actual condition since it has been touted on social media so much. It can come from the home as we have seen some sick parents mentally abusing their children but I believe a majority is through media and gov. funded schools.

Cps is filled with leftist shills. Doubtful it will do anything

Yep. It's distortion of creation and comes from the immensely selfish view that our Sex is a tool for our mundane happiness therefore we can change it at will.

They should be arrested

@@basharalassad6854 No, hold on. Look, we shouldn't arrest or harm them them in any way because if God allows them to pursue these craziness then who are we to forbid them? But we should have a harsher, firmer moral stand against sin and unfortunately, against people wanting to spread it in society, we are past the point of just conversing.

@@screwlessartur The way you have a harsher and more strict view of sin is to make it illegal, the law is about morality. Just because God allows for a murderer to roam free doesn't mean we should let them free.

Interesting. Thanks for the recommendation

@@chloewilson9898 your welcome✌

You are a person first and foremost. I respect you. I sense you truly respect others as well. Cheers!

why should knowledge of sacred scripture be a condition to get medical help? Did I miss smth?

@@Mish844 Yes. Christ first and center in everything we do!

@@bullyboy131 don't take it as a testimony against your faith, that's against you specifically - if your faith must cost your child health, without causing you any reflection, you might not be good follower of Christ, but instead a good cult follower.

@@Mish844 You don't understand Christianity. Christ first in everything!

@@bullyboy131 god knows how many years inside it, but sure - I don't understand it. It's not like by your own admission safety of your child comes 2nd to faith. It isn't that values of christianity impose certain duties on you, right? Things like taking care of the weaker, or your children. "Christ first" doesn't mean that you're supposed to respond to every fooking issue with bible, it means following his example ffs. If you can't grasp that much then you simply are less of a christian than a stereotypical atheist.

Like asking a cultist to talk to potential new members and convince them how its all dandy. Anyways, if you really think they should, do you think we should also let detransitioners talk to those struggling or do they not count?

I would say that you misunderstand the point of these teachings. Catholicism very much accepts the fact that there are people, like yourself, who experience serious discord between their feelings and the bodies they were born with. You statement that the Church believes that transubstantiation is real but your feelings aren't shows that you are misinformed. The Church does not claim your feelings aren't real. The issue is that the Church is also a strong believer in objective reality, or the idea that the truth remains the same regardless of our feelings. So while our feelings are real in and of themselves, they don't change reality. Feeling like a member of the opposite sex doesn't make you one. What is does make you is... well... a person who feels like a member of the opposite sex. In other words, this is the Catholic understanding applied to you. You are real. Your feelings are real. But they cannot change objective reality. Sex is a biological trait. It isn't "assigned." It's observed. So while you can feel like a member of the opposite sex, it does not make you one, because sex, like, say, height or hair color, is a physical fact. Everybody's body is either ordered towards pregnancy or impregnation, in other words, female or male. Now, as for ideology... as a Catholic, I've never thought that my religion isn't an ideology. You claim that the Church doesn't believe that its own beliefs are ideology, but that's just not true. Beliefs and ideology are the same thing. (Notice "ideology" is "idea+ology," or the study of ideas.) Religion is just ideology when applied to the big important questions, like whether or not there is a God, etc. etc. All are based on evidence or reason of some kind. That includes yours. And so I would say transgenderism and Catholicism are both ideologies. I'm fine with that label. As a transgender person, I think you ought to be fine with it, too. After all, in any debate, one of the ideologies has to be wrong and one is right. But remember never to lose sight of what the debate is about. From the Catholic perspective, any feeling you have is granted. We aren't here to tell you that you're not having serious issues caused by gender dysphoria. To us, the argument is simply about physical facts, like whether or not a biological male can be a woman. To us, the whole idea seems nonsensical, because the word "woman" was literally created to designate adult human biological females. A biological male is thus excluded by definition. Anyway, there's my two cents (probably more like half a cent, but whatever). May God bless you in all your trials.

@@gunsgalore7571 I'm laughing at your position on the church's view of reality. To me, the whole idea that the church is based on reality is just complete nonsense. Tell me about the physical fact (that the church propounds) that transubstantiation is real because no one with any true grasp of reality would agree with that. Tell me about the belief that the church holds that your Mary was a virgin, and yet birthed a child. Objective reality??? Please, tell me what kind of reality one must believe in to accept the idea that the very same child grew into a man, and then rose from the dead (after he "died"). Because NONE of that is based on objective reality. One thing I find fascinating about Catholic ideology is that one must be brainwashed into it as a child in order to hold the beliefs as an adult. I think if one looks at the churches teaching as an adult, one would find it severely lacking in believe ability. And if you haven't taken a course in biology, I suggest you do so, because male and female are not as binary as you (or the Catholic church) think they are.

@@MsMsmak i understand that you're only engaging in this comment section to get angry at people, but i think it would be beneficial for you to be a little more charitable to those who's opinion you so vehemently oppose. it's extremely understandable to me that you would think the idea of a man coming back to life is impossible, but saying that it has no basis in reality and people only believe it if they grew up with it as a child just isn't true. take for example Lee Strobel, a staunch atheist who tried incredibly hard to disprove the resurrection, only to end up being convinced by all of the evidence and becoming a famous apologist. I want to be able to understand why those who are transgender feel the way they do and what the best way to deal with those feelings is, I really do. Academic studies, such as "Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden", have show results that, although transitioning may alleviate feelings of dysphoria, after sex reassignment people have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. that seems to indicate to me that transitioning may not be the best option for treating gender dysphoria. alternatively, there is data to show that children who express dysphoria in childhood that do no get put on puberty blockers largely desist when entering adulthood and do not experience higher suicidality and psychiatric morbidity. i am not trying to look at this in a way that harms or attacks trans people or those who experience gender dysphoria, i want the best for them. I just think the data points towards other solutions beyond transitioning, and i hope youre able to see that.

@@elinorris1739 This never mind the fact "is not as binary" is a bunch of pseudo science nonsense founded by mad Men like John money that had to rely on a dualism which is rooted in Gnosticism.

@@elinorris1739 “I understand that you're only engaging in this comment section to get angry at people, but i think it would be beneficial for you to be a little more charitable to those who's opinion you so vehemently oppose. it's extremely understandable to me that you would think the idea of a man coming back to life is impossible, but saying that it has no basis in reality and people only believe it if they grew up with it as a child just isn't true.” I find the position of the Catholic church extremely disturbing. Vehemently opposed is putting it lightly. The good the Catholic church has done pales in comparison to the harm it causes. “Take for example Lee Strobel, a staunch atheist who tried incredibly hard to disprove the resurrection, only to end up being convinced by all of the evidence and becoming a famous apologist.” Using one example to demonstrate that an adult person can go from being an atheist to a Catholic doesn’t change the fact that if children are left alone to discover their own belief systems, they wouldn’t choose to worships the Catholic version of god. Brainwashing them at an early age just brainwashes them into it. I have no information on Strobel and his childhood, but I would bet dollars to donuts that he was raised Christian of some kind, then became an atheist, and then converted to Catholicism. "I want to be able to understand why those who are transgender feel the way they do and what the best way to deal with those feelings is, I really do. Academic studies, such as "Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden", have show results that, although transitioning may alleviate feelings of dysphoria, after sex reassignment people have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behavior, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. that seems to indicate to me that transitioning may not be the best option for treating gender dysphoria." Nowhere in that study is there any mention of the social cost of transitioning. Loss of job opportunities, housing discrimination, social rejection by friends and family, the loss of spiritual support, the medical hurdles one must go through ALL point to the incredible difficulty of life after transition. It’s called Minority Stress. The conclusion you raise is one of missing the point. Correlation is not causation. The conclusion should be that social acceptance of the trans experience is the key to reducing risks. If one is going to be persecuted just for existing, no amount of healthcare is going to change that. For more information on this, and a more recent study on a much larger group of trans people, see :www.psychiatry.org/news-room/news-releases/study-finds-long-term-mental-health-benefits-of-gender affirming healthcare “Alternatively, there is data to show that children who express dysphoria in childhood that do not get put on puberty blockers largely desist when entering adulthood and do not experience higher suicidality and psychiatric morbidity.” Please cite the source of the data you are referencing. Mine shows different outcomes. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8169497/ “I am not trying to look at this in a way that harms or attacks trans people or those who experience gender dysphoria, i want the best for them. I just think the data points towards other solutions beyond transitioning, and I hope you’re able to see that. Actually the data convincingly says otherwise. I appreciate your attempt to be civil. It’s very hard to have any meaningful conversation when an entrenched religious belief system is used to harm people rather than help them, and it’s doubly difficult when science is outright ignored or misrepresented by that belief system.

No we won't. That's an awful take.

Protestants really lead the charge on that nonsense and have totally exposed their fraudulent churches

Jesus Christ is true man and true God. Jesus was a biological man in his humanity and God in his divinity. Jesus called Yahweh God the Father and told us we could cry out Abba because he was also our Father... So in a real sense he is our Father. Not in a biological sense but in a spiritual sense. And because he is the creator of everything biological/ material l and spiritual. On the other hand some saints have said the Holy Spirit is spiritually feminine These are just opinions. . Because the Holy Spirit is described creating ? like a woman in travail. But then the Holy spirit is also described as masculine in spiritual nature because he overshadowed the Virgin Mary and is considered the spouse of the Virgin Mary. So we cannot describe God as having no gender because he himself assigns gender to himself both biologically/ spiritually in the case of Jesus Christ and and spiritually in the case of the God the Father and the Holy Spirit.

I helped out at a priest assembly in a diocese that leans slightly more liberal. The topic was on transgenderism and I have to say that every priest was on board with the Church’s teaching. So a bit of encouragement that no. The Church will not go down this road.

@@smedrano1964 I agree that true Christians will always call God 'The Father '. And that's correct and true. But what would you do if Roman catholic Church and the pope try to make you believe the other way. The church of England already did that. Already Roman catholic Church and Mr. Francis is working so hard for the lesbians and homosexuals.