Now the KZfaq algorithm has proven it's worth. They need to show this video to kids at school.

Those rear spoilers on the 91-92s remind me of a shopping cart.

I loved the commentary, "Don't do dat to a z28" lol

the "old person trying to fit in with the young crowd's style" bit had me laughing. Awesome video and the humor

Awesome video my dad had an 89 iroc new fully loaded optioned with the 5.7 liter tuned port injection and I remember it had power seat automatic trunk pull down cruise control and you had to use the door key to unlock the T tops plus it had a coded resister on the key for the ignition he eventually traded it for a new 93 T bird

Really nice in depth explanation! Watched because I know alot about these different year changes on the firebird, but not for the camaro.

I owned a 1991 RS with a 305 TBI and automatic for many years until it finally conked out. It was bright red with t-tops and gray/black interior and eventually got upgrades to the exhaust, brakes and suspension plus subframe connectors welded in for local SCCA autocross events. The Crutchfield catalog provided aftermarket audio (CD and new speakers.) I miss it sometimes but by the time it was sold there was significant rust in the front fenders with some starting in the rear quarters and around the tops. It was as run-of-the-mill as a Camaro could be but to me it was special. One silly but fond memory is that I made sure when the odometer rolled over 100,000 miles the car was going 100 mph. I did it late one night on an open and low-traffic road. Later I owned 2001 Z28 Convertible with Hurst short-throw six speed, white with black leather interior. I ordered it through a dealership built just like I wanted. Much more powerful but not as reliable and I'll always swear the third generation cars handled better. It's gone now too. Enjoyed the video, lot of good information!

Sweet education man, u know alot about 3rd generation, me old ass like them 60s and 70s, some 80s, kinda in my Era,had me a 78 and a 79 back in the mid 90s, Lotta fun, really enjoyed the vid man🤘

You are correct on the wheels. 85-87 wheels are the same. 88 to 90 are the same.

Great video by the way, I feel exactly the same way about the 1990 IROC dash. I was never a big fan of the yellow either or IROC wheels/taillights on 82-84 models, I remember seeing it all the time back when these were newer.

I 100% agree EXACTLY with your comments on the car needing that rear spoiler. LOL.!!!

I currently have a 1985 no t top z28 with a numbers matching carbed 305 and a 700r4 that I daily every other week... it Is still the factory dull sunshine(??) yellow with original grey ground effects around it... and when I was 18 years old I had an 89 firebird formula that had the 305 tbi and 700r4 that did have non leaking t tops... was the maroonish red with GREY "ground effect" paint.. man I miss that car... tis why I ended up with the Golden turd... LOL.

Thank you very much for such a nice overview of the 3RD Gen Camaro, very useful !

I've had 3rd gens in my family/life since 83'. I've had a 91' Z28 1LE since 93'. It's also rpo R7U. 1 of 97. Drove it today in fact. Everyone sez says: "Oh I saw you driving your Firebird (or Trans Am) today." This summer i had some young kids ask me if it was a Ferrari. lol (it's red)

The different color ground effects are a MUST HAVE.!!! When the entire car is the same color it doesn't look as good.

Good video. You didn't mention the custom embroidered Camaro interior the fact that 1985 was the last year for the square shift knob, it went to a round knob on the automatic transmissions after 85, there's actually 70 changes between 85 and 86 And then there's the automatic deck lid closer. In nineteen eighty nine

I have an 88 iroc, t5, swapped to a 350 bore .30 over, mild cam, 3" exhaust from headers, factory 4 wheel disc brakes, no t tops, g92 npo I get compliments on the car from all ages and ranges of people. Even with a worn out paint and interior is ok, compliments all the time.ill never leave it

Cool video man! I know a lot about cars but you taught me quite a few things. I had seven different second generation Camaros in my youth from about 1990-2000 or so. Could buy them complete and in decent shape except for mechanical issues for $200-$500 including three or four Z28's and even a 1971 Ram Air Formula Firebird. Anyway I can tell every year of the second generation and the first gen is super easy but I don't know that much about the third. The 1987 Convertible was a very low production run from what I can remember and a local doctor had one where I live but I didn't know about the one's like your aunt had. Anyway I enjoy learning stuff like this, very cool.

Great walk through Bro! Hey those custom convertibles are pretty cool though, new one on me, didn't even know that existed! Cool stuff!

Silver ‘84 Z28 was my “first car” (as a passenger)

Another difference between 86 and 87....the automatic shifter knob went from a round stitched baseball looking thing, to a square knob with a square button inset in it. Chevy used this same shifter knob all the way up until 2005 in the C5 Corvette.

Highly informative!

Awsome video dude definitely learned a couple things n agree with most of what u said,1 thing u coulda included though was the rocker panel n bumper emblem pkg,Iroc-Z 88-90,Z28 85-87 91-92,TPI,B4Z etc.

Only thing I noticed you left out was when they dropped the Z28 name on the IROC-Z in 89. Instead of the ground effects saying Z-28 they said IROC-Z. Might have been 88 though sorry for not knowing for sure on the year. And the Z28 package continued from 85-87 with that two tone but the lower color matched the interior color . 85-86 Z28’s for sure had some stripes above the ground effect (I have an 85 and 86) maybe the 87 Z28’s did too? But you did a pretty good job on the break downs year by year man. 👏

The differences in the 1988-89 involve options available and engines available…externally they are exact. 1990 was the last year for the IROC but the best engines had corvette HP….1991-92 was back to the Z28 and RS body styling

All are great. Great video. Very helpful .

i come back to this video when looking at camaros on marketplace

I have an 84 sport coup that I swapped the 84 berlinetta dash into and the seats and doors. I changed the seats from tan to black but you can still see the stripes which looks cool.

"Your typical IROC" *looks identical to the IROC sitting in my driveway without an engine*

Very good - I have a 85 white IROC w/ t-tops still original

great video! 82-84 Z28 the side ground effect is an inch shorter. just a little tad bit of info some may not know.

great video. lots of good info

Great vid!

92 Z28 Plum/Purple Haze with racing silvery white stripes and peanut butter 🥜leather interior w/ T tops is my favorite 🤌

My sister bought a Hunter Green 92 RS with a V-8 -5 speed - It had T-Tops and this car had some get up and go !!!

You can tell an 88 IROC from an 89 by looking at the rear seat area. 1989 was the first year for rear shoulder belts, 1988’s did not have them. Also 1982 Z28 rear bumper emblem didn’t have a bowtie attached to the Z28. 1983 and after did have a bowtie attached to it. I owned an 82 back in the 80’s and own two IROCS today.

Awesome video Marty 👌🏼🤘🔥

Greeting from Germany… super Video … … I have an 86 IROC …. , with the ugly Breaklight in back .., hehehe … for me not ugly … is ok … The 5.0 TPI is in the junkyard … is still a 383 inside ., better for highspeed on German highway .. yeahhhhh…

My 85 Z28 had the Iroc taillights stock. The 82-84 had the speedo with the dual pointer. 85 and up had the single pointer. The 84 and 84 Z28 had the gradient stripes on top of the ground effects. My 1985 also had carpet all over the trunk area and had the upper console with the flashlight, map light, and manual trip/counter. Man I screwed up getting rid of that car. Oh, and I had a GTA notchback hatch on it.

Learned alot of Camaro info!

I am kinda thinking the sharper angular 82-84 front ends were the best looking.

mine didn't come with functional hood flaps(1983 z28 305)

One quick bit of trivia. 1982 was the only year the Z28 nameplate on the rear bumper didn't have the bowtie emblem.

you said twice in the first 2 minutes that iroc was from 85-89 but that is wrong, iroc went from 85-90. i did see you talked about the 90 model later. you are correct on the wheels, they changed in 88, i think the wheels on the 89 were only 16x7 and not 16x8. i could be wrong on the wheel size tho. also the gold and black pin stripping flipped in 88. if i remeber correctly the badge on the 86 ground effects was a z28 badge and on the 88 it was an iroc badge. my brother had an 86 and i had an 88 and a 90

Nice video, my 84 z28 ho is the Matrix3 convertible conversion (4 seater with power top). I saw the zebra seat cover replacements on one of the Camaro resto sites, can’t remember which one and it was awhile ago. I had no idea they were 84 only. I think some of the later z28s that weren’t IROCs got the silver ground effects.

Cool video !! I got a 92 Z28 and yeah i guess I'm that old man now. I remember when the 91 to 92 Z28 came out we weren't crazy about the high spoiler but now that i own one now it's kinda grown on me.I still wish i could find a 85 to 89 iroc but there hard to find around here unless you got money so thats why i grabbed the 92 Z28 when i found it and i do love the car .

8:50... I have a black 86 autoform z28 roadster. About 600 or so were converted. Great video in identifying the 3rd gen years. I expected you to skip over the autoform camaros🤙

The reason why the 1991 and 92 Camaro changed because the license on the iRock ran out with Chevrolet. That’s why the 91 and 92 look like that they reached out at 93.

If I'm not mistaken. I believe 1990s Iroc emblem was on the bottom fender well behind the the front wheel. But great vid thx

Only the 91-92 Z28 had the hi rise spoiler. The RS cars spolier was different. Also a 88 model Z28 spoiler is a one year only spoiler as well.

A guy where I live is selling one of the pre factory convertible Camaros

I have the exact '84 Z28 as in the video clip at the end; zebra seats and all (didn't know they were one year only!). Was originally looking for an 87-'89 Iroc but this Z28 came up for the right price with a 5 speed and t-tops. Grew to like the more angular nose and silver ground effects better in the long run. Only thing I don't like is the dummy hood scoops.

I was never a huge fan of the thirdgen Camaros, although my favorite is the clean 82-84 style. I’ve owned and built a total of 16 thirdgen Trans Ams over the last 25+ years. The same applies to the three groups of them; 82-84, 85-90, and 91-92. The 82-84 Trans Ams were clean, no tacky nonsense, no clunky ground effects, 85-90 started looking “boaty” with larger ground effects, cheap looking soft vinyl consoles, big clunky looking aero spoilers, etc. The 91-92 were absolutely hideous, with the big “beak” of a nose, and rain gutter ground effects that compliment absolutely ZERO body lines on the car. For a generation that ran for as long as they did (82-92), they tried reinventing the wheel too many times. They did the same with the second gen cars. Compare a 70 Z28 to an 81, or a 70 T/A to an 81. The 81s look like bloated parade floats compared to the clean 70-73s. I’ve had a total of 12 1982-1984 Trans Ams. They’re my go to 👍

I'm glad youtube suggested this Video, informative & entertaining. Thanks for the effort man. 👍🏻 I 100% agree on the RS era ground effects!! It looked ok, but I couldn't quite put it into words why it looked... odd. PS. You're wrong about the 1990 Dash on the Iroc. It's not perfect, but it was refreshing in a sea of round instrument gauges with bouncing needles. 😅 Steering wheel is Shit tho.. I'll give ya that.

Nice video, watched through the whole thing. I prefer the look of the 82-84 front instead of the jay leno chin

Idk about the older Camaros but the 91s nose is so long it scrapes the pavement on even the slightest grade. Great vid!

The 1990 steering wheel is the first year for the mandated airbag.

Never liked the taillights on any interaction of this gen. Best thing to do was to go for an aftermarket smoked set. They make black light covers for them but never liked those. Light Smoked set is best

Professor Marty presenting, college shop course knowledge! '86 third break light: "...This ugly bl-bl thing...very disturbing. You can tell it was an afterthought..." Yes! Big like!

Gimme an 86 or 87 IROC, T-Tops, 350 TPI, T-56 swap, earlier IROC wheels, pale yellow, grey interior. The yellow grew on me. That's the way I'd have it now. I had an 83 Z28 carbureted, and a 92 RS 25th, red with black stripes, body matching wheels (hated those wheels because there was no dish and front and rear could not swap due to offset.

After 1987, they dropped the _"entry level"_ Z28 and only went with the IROC as the Z28 choice until the contract between the International Race of Champions and GM was not renewed after 1990... Then just the regular Z28 returned, more or less sporting the IROC solid color scheme (minus the decal), and the large rear spoiler, as opposed to the old spoiler and the dual toned colors featured in the early 80s... The 305 HO was an option in the RS in 1989, although I'm not sure the 305 TPI was...

RS had optional 5.0 v8 from standard IROC-Z28

I have a 83 berlinetta came with a 6 cyl too😂 I’ve v8 swapped it and now I’m throwing on 91 i roc ground effects and bumpers. Put in full black leather sporty interior it’s still a berlinetta! I’m not saying it’s an I roc I just wanted the body kit since I’ve built the car from the ground up

i hated that gigantic spoiler

‘82-84 had dual resonator exhaust, except for the HO motors. 5speed for 83-84

Not all Z-28's were silver on the bottom.. You could also get a black one with gold on the bottom.

Remember being a kid riding to grade school in moms berlinetta. Wasnt the berlinetta the inly.model that had the swivel stereo unit?

Every rs I came across was a 305 tbi

My 91 rs came with a v6, it's sitting out back in the dirt. It now has a 6.0 lq4 stuffed into it.

85-90 had the revised front bumper differences between the 82-84 Z28 front bumper. Most of this I’ve known since I grew up with these cars and father had two of them and some friends had them… (cost there parents co- signed) lucky bastards.and this (RS era ) you told about began in the 91- 92 model years after the IROC was discontinued after the 90 model year. They brought back the Z28 model. Since dodge was using the IROC name.

Nice.

I owned a 87 z28. It had the iroc taillights in it from factory. The only thing that differed it from the iroc was the 15inch wheels, the two tone paint, and the rear drum breaks. But it was a z28 with block taillights. The old z28 light stayed the camero but the z28 got the block taillights.

also my 83 dash pad isnt in bad shape and it sat in the sun for 20 years. there three minor cracks through thee whole thing

FYI my 84' came with the Charcoal bottom Aero skirts, unlike all of the others that were silver. I thought the code was 15 for the body color, but not sure if is the 15E or 15W for the Platinum Silver If I get to storage, I'll get the trim codes

I painted an iroc all red and put rs ground effects on it .

Wasn’t gold also a ground effect color for the 82-84 z28s?

91 Camaro RS has a 305 tbi

There were 15" IROC wheels in 1990. The CHMSL was in the spoiler from '87 to '90. Then back inside the hatch glass for '91 & '92. If I had a choice, it'd be the spoiler mounted ones. The inside glass ones restricted rear viewing. Only issue with the '87 to '90 spoiler CHMSL was the "arm & a leg" price of the bulbs. Damn ridiculous $

Thanks

Curious, I have never heard the name "Star-ship" before for early 3rd gens, what is that referencing? Thanks.

Nice video I have a sport coupe (figure it out by the vin number ) I thought I had Berlinetta for a bet haha

The 91 wing got you so worked up, you had to light a cigarette lmao

Informative video, I wouldn't trade my 88 Iroc 5.7 TPI for a new one!

I don't know if anybody had already said it or not I haven't went through all the comments but I was just going to mention don't forget about the LT trim.

1984 ❤

I watched the whole video but I’m still confused about the side molding. Which cars had the side molding on the door front fender and a little bit of the rear clip ? Please explain .

Best year/model in your opinion/your favorite?

89 had yellow z28 on the dash

like the info but you never covered the LT models. i have a 87 LT

Bottom trim on my 1982 Z28 was gold not silver, the car was black and it had t-bar roof 305 4 barrel 4 speed standard transmission 3:23 rear end gears you need to do better research and I did buy new from GM. I LOVED THE CAR I charged the engine to a 350 it had 350 hp 400 torque and put a t-10 4 speed transmission.

#84Z28Gang

Also I have a 1984 camaro I think but my vin number says it’s a 1985 and the transmission is a 5 speed . I thought you said that it only came in a 3 speed.

Got an 82 z28 with a 4 speed manual and an 88 rs with 5 speed manual v6

NOTE: Do not be fooled if the hoods vents do not open. The base engine for a Z28 was the 4 barrel carbureted V8 while the CFI was the optional engine. The hoods were fiberglass on both for reference just as you said. Talk about engines or not the HP for the base was only 145 and the CFI respectably 165, and this was MOTOR TREND CAR OF THE YEAR 1982. For handling of course. :) I owned fromg new off the show room floor a 1982 z28 red with silver velour int. I was 18 yrs old with my first full time job after graduating HS in May of '82. It was sitting in my garage November 2nd, 1982 in a rain storm for a week after I got it. I have a full story I wrote out but I dont think anyone cares. LOL The readable UP/DN buttons for the windows would wear and or wipe off. It could literally wipe off and smear with a wet damp cloth esp if it had windex or any armor all on it. Same for the dash board writing. wiper stalk and door locks were all fine, held up to my 9 years of ownership. I am a particular guy thos with OCD. I replaced my window buttons after a couple of years then was very careful how I handled them. Good video, hard work went into it I can tell.

Will 15 inch rims fit on a 91 or 92 rs camaro

I PREFER NO 3rd brake light. If you cant see bright brake lights ya shouldn't be driving. I am actually looking at a nice 86 Z but it has that AWFUL blob light at the top -. Was hoping I could somehow remove it.

@useful entertainment what’s the name of the 1980’s song when your video ends I forgot the name of the artist?

No mention of the 1987 LT Given it wasnt its own model but neither was the Iroc after 86

I got a super rare 1986 metal grey silver lol

I have a 1990 iroc-z