One could argue there’s nothing to hate about this car lol

for the cup holder: i went with the cutting a hole into the center console in between the window switches and the console and putting a single boat cup holder in there. superglued it in and it looks good and works perfectly. best “quality of life” thing i’ve ever done to my 87 z28 i daily drive mine at 18 for the record. it was a necessity!

I've had 3rd gen my whole adult life. I have two right now. When my hoods started doing the uneven wobble I loosened the hinge bolts that go through fender for mounting. Loosen all bolts on both sides and slide the hinges as far apart(toward the outside/fenders) and tighten the bolts. Of course check the gap and make sure it doesn't rub on the fenders. But widening the hinges help reduce flex. It has worked on my hoods so far. Try it out. Edit: just loosen the 10mm bolts going to the fender. Not the hood bolts. Just making sure no one mistakes that.

I remember those cars well. Here is my list. 1) Leaky T-tops. 2) the plastic switches, buttons, screws and more always breaks. 3) The hood won't raise correctly, as you noticed 4) the headliner sags 5) the material on the visors is cheap

The one thing I really hate about the third gen is the hump in the floor pan on the passenger side. I hate it!

I have a black 1991 RS that I've had since 2008 my favorite reactions are the *"WOW, COOL!"* from the little kids that have never seen them before 😂

Thanks for the video. I really love my IROC and your video makes me want to upgrade it more

I've got a 89 iroc I bought in 1990. I always Loved them cars and it's still a thrill to drive to this day.

I enjoyed the vid. I have a 02 Trans Am, with a good bit of work. But I previously owned a 87 Camaro for around decade . Really don’t missed it. But it’s crazy watching the vid and seeing pros and cons to the 4th vs the 3rd Gen.

Amazing, bout the Flex' that's awesome you pointed that out, air gets in alot of these cars and warps, like dude metal bends and gets warped! Love your car's rims and color is poppin!

I had a 1982 berlinetta V8, it was a great car and I never had any problems with it, until it started leaving at night on its own. I didn't even know it was happening until the police came and told me they had my car and it had killed 6 people over the the weekend.

#8 Opening the hatch in the rain all the water from the glass runs down inside the plastic upholstery panels. GM fixed this in the fourth gens, where it drains to the side gutters. You are right about the flexing of the car, Spohn subframe connectors fixed my Z-28. It now goes over train-tracks like a big sold piece of metal. Nice IROC.

I agree with ALL the gripes! The frame might be #1 on my list...mine looks like a sub-connector heaven.

Great video! Totally agree with all of the things you dislike, I have most of the same issues driving my stock 88 GTA here in Norway. Anyway, good looking car! Keep up the great content!

You’ve done a great job with your car. I have a 1LE that we put factory A/C and R12 in - it’s a 92 the last year for R12. I’ve come to the realization that I too hate the factory seats.

Another one to add to the list is no glove box. It’s annoying having no room in the armrest compartment because it’s full of papers

I have to say the engine sounded amazing. My dad built a completely custom first gen with the same engine so the sound just made me happy

I've always thought the stock seats were some of the most comfortable stock seats, but I'm also a much smaller guy lol. Great video and nice car man

Thanks for the videos as always , your camaro looks great and that stance it has on the video is a great looking one. 3rd gens are not perfect but are great cars to look at and own . Thank you

I had a red 89' Iroc, put in different springs to lower the ride height. I removed the decals and stripes. I liked it better without them, took them off soon after I bought it new off the lot. Wish I could have kept it. Yours looks great!

The og material on the SS seats is an awesome touch

My biggest gripe with my 92 was the door pins and the dash that inevitably cracks.

Man this red and gold looks gorgeous, love those wheels

Love the gen 3’s, any recommendations on the best place to look to buy one?

If you re crimp the hood rivets it actually works amazing. Did it to mine before I got my car painted. My hood works perfectly now 👌🏽

I had a stick I found on the ground at our shop for a hood holder for probably 10 years. Just laid it on the shroud when I closed the hood.

As a Fox body owner, I get the bit about the seats (I owned a turbo t bird that rode much better than my same year 1986 GT) and the ground clearance issue. A problem shared with the Mustang, F body and G body from GM was they were all produced for too long--the stampings making the body panels had to wear out, and on a unibody, that's a real support issue. The fibreglass hoods on the Camaros seemed neat at the time, but the heavy side doors with no window frame seemed to be an issue on many high mileage GM vehicles so equipped (my Mustang also needed its bushings replaced just to get the door to latch, but with a window frame i was able to lift it up from the outside to shut it until it was warm enough in the snow belt to get around to fixing it). Hatchback cars love to flex with that big hole in the back--Mustangs had a coupe option, but if you can find a convertible in the junkyard (there may have been more built including the SN95?) you can nab its factory braces. not hating on the F bodies, I remember when these were "affordable" and anyone smart enough to get past the mullet jokes saw a 350/383 swap created a sweet street machine. Now the prices are going up for clean ones, but if you enjoy hunting for deals or have a garage to detail a barn find car....

Did you do anything for the frame twisting issue? Could you perhaps doing a in-depth video of it? Love the content!

You didn't mention the sun visors. They don't come down far enough, extend, and like to slide off (my passengers do it - grrrr 🤬).

Very nice car!!! I own a 1986 Trans Am, I’ve had her 32 years. I agree with everything you mentioned. For me unfortunately, it’s lack of power, it still has the stock 305, I’ve thought about getting a crate motor, which would be about $10,000, a friend of mine said whatever price you think it’s going to be, add another $5,000 to it, (since I can’t do the work myself it would probably be more) so at the moment I’ll stick with what I have. Thanks for all the ideas.

Great video I have an 85 z28 no cup holder drives me nuts too lol

Hey man! Those 5th gen seats look awesome! would love to get a hold of those seat brackets that your buddy fabs! Any more info on that or link / email? You can PM that's okay! Thanks man! Great looking IROC btw and love ur vids!

Right on man! I bet you definitely don't hate how it sounds! Body flex is maybe my number 1. I have a convertible as well and even though it looks awesome you can feel it now and again and putting the car up I'd be scared to open the doors. Even though I have a low mileage car I may just get SFCs because I do enjoy driving it. Cup holders are a bummer too. This is such a good cars and coffee car but you can't sip and drive on the way... Not many cars in this era had cup holders though. Definitely love all the love Thirdgens get driving around. Compared to owning one back in the day they have become real respectable classic cars now to a lot of people!

Car is sitting low and he says he likes driving it like this high. LOL.

I am contemplating roll cage or fabricating interior floor subframe connectors to not lose exhaust clearance

Cool Car!! Great mods, seats and all. Its your car. 1 of 1. #11. Having all the old half broken parts strewn around for that beater that will turn up.

I just bought an ‘88 convertible. Definitely going with sub frame connectors and I absolutely love the seat idea

Never knew about the hood flopiness. Mine seems really solid, but I’m the only person who’s opened it since it was new. On that note, my driver’s door shuts beautifully but my passenger door has a slight clunky rattle. I tried to stop people from slamming but 😤

What kind of tires do you have ? And where do I get the info on air suspension? I have a 89 rs

I have a 91 third gen pontiac and i agree with the seats uncomfortable i got some viscount pmd seats from an 82 trans am and what a difference also my hood wobbles too

Check for stress cracks behind the steering box, it happened on my 84 Z28 back in the early 90s I miss that car

Did you buy those front blinkers?

I have the 82' Camaro Z28 stock 5.0l 4-speed and love everything about it. I could easily find 7 things I don't like about any vehicle I've ever owned. Not this 82 - it's precious!

6:50 The Hood wobble when i bought my new 1982 Camaro was there but not something then I would think as an issue. I think this is because it had brand new factory gas struts and the hinges were new and free to pivot. This with a California bought car made in Van Nuys. It was not until the late 90s and the car in the humid south east that I noticed the wobble. By noticed I mean it bugged me. The coastal salt air and humidity here on mine have me getting oil then some grease in the hinge pivots to reduce the wobble. The actual friction is hard to feel because to the hoods weight and struts force. When one side has more friction you can see the hood flex to port or starboard since the one side has more friction.

There's some hinges at hawks had my steering box rebuilt no slop

I have a 86 IROC-Zand a 92 Z28 I can't say enough about how much I love the two they are too bad boys

LOL #7. That's been top of my list since May 1993 when I first got my 92 Z28 !!! But previous owner used the small screws on flat part of center consol by radio to screw in some cup holders on the side...puts them by drivers right knee and passengers left

Hey Stan- I have an IROC in the UK. Love to get some custom tail script on the left rear like yours. Any help pls? You car is beauiful

What rims u got on your Camaro? Thanks Beautiful car!!

My son's 88 GTA used a 4th gen center console for the cup holder. Had to fab a bracket for the window switch where the ashtray goes. Not a perfect solution but it's a cup holder

awesome car love seeing the possibilities that can be had i cant wait to get started on mine. Im trying to figure where to start im thinking the engine and transmission upgrade first then the drivetrain or vice versa then the paint job then the interior. idk i want to have the proper game plan and not just do random things

9:00 besides the steering box slop/play there can be a crack in the frame where the box attaches. A buddies 1985 Camaro had this issue and my 1982 does not.

Hey just watched your video and your car sounds really good!! I was wondering what kind of mufflers u have and how big is your exhaust pipe is. I’m building a 83 Pontiac trans am now. And yes I have some of the same complaints as u do lol!!! The hoods do suck lol!!,

I agree with you.. You have a very nice, well kept example of the 3rd gen camaro. Gotta love it 👍

These cars are a classic piece of art. Love em! I don’t care what little quirks they have. You have to consider the age and time these vehicles were made. I could say that about my 79 or 04 vettes. Not a huge game changer. Enjoy these cars for the works of art they are

Got an 87 iroc with factory cloth seats,had since 91,had a 2001 trans am non ws6 with leather seats,they look sportier than my Camaro's,but when I sat in my Camaro's,they do feel more comfortable.

What size rims do you have?

Clean third gens will turn heads all day long. Beautiful cars. I have a clean 89 Formula L98 black with ttops and it's stock except for headers. I Need subframe connectors asap.

You should link your buddie's seat brackets. That was one of my biggest gripes when I had third gens.

sweet ride, keep the hood hinges lubed up with white lithium grease....mine gets wobbly when it's time for more grease, but i have those fancy billet hinges saved to my wish list with hawks motorsports....i'll have them some day

Hello i was watching this video and saw the seats part, and i was thinking about my seats in my 3rd camaro same one as yours, and i was wondering if you knew if there’s any place or website i could get new seats that would fit because, my driver seat is all jacked up and i need a new pair. Thanks

The sensors on those years are expensive as hell. Had a 89 Iroc and loved it, but damn it was expensive.

The hood on my friends 3rd gen was fiberglass and the top half of that hood blew off as we were going down the highway

The ONLY two things i hated about my third-gen were the drum brakes and how the wheel bearings are inside the front brake rotor. Other than that, i LOVED the car. 89 RS 305 with ttops.

My hood never used to wobble; then one day when I popped it I didn't lift it up the way I usually did and that's all she wrote - from that point on I have to use both hands to 'guide' it up to prevent it from bending And yeah, ground clearance is awful - I don't think the extra-long overhang from the front wheels to the tip of the nosecone helps. I just had the front end repainted and you become VERY conscious of how easy it is to scrape the paint off the tip. Angled turn-ins wherever I find a speed bump or driveway

Hey Stan, are you still rocking your original steering shaft? I'm not sure if you know this or not but the rag joint in the steering shaft itself is known to have alot of slop after time. On my old 84, when i got it, the slop was so bad i was actually scared to drive the car over 40. I install a modified "astro-shaft" in my old 84 and that took care of the slop 100%. But then it blew the seals out of the original steering box and I spent a alot of time hunting down an iroc spec steering box. I wanted a tight turn raidus. I was aware before ordering that a lot of companies claimed to sell iroc boxes but really didn't. Had to do a lot of homework but I found a company and paid 430 for an iroc spec rebuilt steering box.

I hate that I never have enough money to spend on mine!

That's crazy that you have so much play in your steering I have an 89 firebird formula with a WS6 package which has the fast ratio steering box and I don't have any slop in my steering and I still have a stock rag joint

Did you get that badge for the supercharger custom made, or was this a limited run of cars

could i get the info on the seats and your friends info on his brackets so i too can replace these seats. 33 years ago when i had this car and i was 150 lbs i didnt have a problem with the seats now at 330 lbs i have a major issue with them.

Ring Brothers make some slick hinges for this car. I believe they'd fix it up.

Redhead gearboxes are top notch.

Agree about the panels. Can't stand how it's put together. And ya the hood hinges ugh lol. I wanted those billet aluminum ones but that price is just insane lol. And ya who thought. Dang we should make a car without a single cup holder 🤣 great video man. Keep it up

I lost my exhaust once on a dirt road, solution was side pipes and 15 in tires

why i hate this year i was driving my 84 when i notice the shifter getting shorter / bang the 5 speed was on the highway the bolts fell out of the 2 inch tin frame ,

Hey Stan, I had asked a year ago or so, where did you get the OEM style tail script on the left rear of your ride? Looks great. Thanks

I’m driving an 89 formula. I can’t wait to drop something into it

Strut bar both front & rear, & as you said, frame connectors, & what about Corvette drop spindles & disk brakes?

Body flex is why i opted for hardtop this time around. It's def more solid

It boils down to, the car looks great, and that’s about it.

Most would love to have it. No car is a hundred percent perfect

Does your friend that makes the bracket for the 5th gen seats have a website?

I put new parts on the front end, urethane where possible, then adjusted the steering box. No slack, tight steering

imma need the link to them turn signals right now brother

I can’t wait to have my own one day so me and my bf can both ride around town with his 83 Pontiac firebird

I'm gonna add my 2 cents to this. I always thought the seats where comfortable but I could see how a bigger guy wouldn't like them. The cup holders also bothers me and because Mines not really a show car at all I just jam the cups into the gap between the door and arm rest. I've also never had any issue with my steering it's as precise as I could want it, literally even the slightest turn and it moves the car so maybe I'm just lucky

Yep.. all the same things that bug me with my 85 iroc-z. I thought it was just my hood that had the wobbly issue. The one thing that I really need to work on is the 305 tpi cooling. I don't like when sitting in traffic it heats up to 230 before the fan kicks in. I'm looking into getting a dual fan to replace the stock single fan. The other thing I had to change was the terrible lighting on the gauge cluster. I replaced the stock bulbs with LED bulbs... Wow what a difference!

You forgot 3 other important issues 1..the fact that the rear brakes are almost non-existent..furthermore you brake hard and you come to a complete stop 10 ft down the road 😮 2. Constantly changing the MAF sensor just about every 5 years and you can only buy rebuild ones😮 3... super traction when the roads are dry..one drop of water on the road and you might as well be steering it over a river..😢..no traction whatsoever

clean Z you have there gota love the Gen3, body flex is not so bad in my 91 RS hard top, convertibles have horrible body flex they put reenforcing bars inside the convertible's doors. you forgot about the flimsy hand break, mine will pop out without notice, had it roll down the driveway once lucky I left the door open jumped in and slammed on the break within inches of taking out the neighbors Benz. I have the fiberglass 1982 Z28 hood, no flex but the hinges like to smash down in the rear when you lift it, they have adjustable rubber stopers on the hinges to help when lifting the hood but mine are missing.

I got the purple heritage edition rs and I’m restoring it and the cup holder drives me crazy

Hey what a nice 3rd gen you got wish mine was as nice

A channel dedicated to my dream car??? I'm in

One thing that bothered me on my firebird was the hatch motor always going out

I have the ring brothers hinges installed on my GTA. Guess what. The wobble is still there!!! So they look awesome and everything but are beyond that no real upgrade. I still love em, haha

I had 2 Irocs and a GTA in the 80's, 90's, early 2000's and never had a problem with the hoods. Now I have a 92 RS and an 88 Iroc and both hoods are difficult to open...definitely sucks

Had an 86 Camaro and presently have an 86 Firebird. With all the flaws, I love the 3rd gens!!!! It is not in pristine condition and not the safest, but I get comments/compliments (and offers) every day!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Get you a spare lid for the console and cut two holes glue two stainless yeti bottoms in the lid. Neat and cheap to change back!! I have 5 3 gens 1 2nd and one 1 st.. hate is a you-go term. And drowning Mona they made them cool!!!! Good stuff

To the wobbly hood, if you have a fiberglass hood, its barely noticable

Beautiful car

I fixed my wobbly hood by replacing the struts, but my rivets still suck so my one strut pops off every time I open the hood