How To Understand Philosophical Writing? - Overcoming Obscurity

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Robin Waldun

Robin Waldun

Күн бұрын

A video essay on the obscurity of philosophy and how to get around it.
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Пікірлер: 56
@zoey5072
@zoey5072 11 ай бұрын
Robin, I know you’re a literature student through and through, but as we know you’re also many other things. But in spite of being a literature student, I think you’ll still be able to agree that language can be limiting in finding the most accurate string of words to assign to our thoughts, experiences, beliefs, and emotions to. This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. To be able to communicate such complex and profound emotion in a way that serves the emotion or experience the justice it deserves is an immense accomplishment. I find this struggle most in trying to communicate strong feelings of happiness, sadness, or love for my partner. Sometimes language can’t capture the beauty of those two emotions at times. That’s why poetry and literature can have such a profound effect on us. To have such insurmountable and ambiguous emotionality demystified is so so so cathartic. To having that feeling of being understood. What I’M trying to use language to tell you is that I appreciate you a lot. I share a lot of your philosophies and sometimes they can be a bit anti-status quo so it brings me comfort to know I’m not alone in my thinking/feeling. I think about the function of philosophy a lot, and just learning in general. We say it a lot to where it becomes stale, the “We must learn!” just seems a bit vague. I’ve learned religion, history, philosophy, science are all one in the same in their goals at times. To make sense of the world, to eliminate further suffering. philosophy eases the mind, gives the mind new tools to help cope with how troubling existence can be at times. Existence can make some even question their will to want to stay on this earth, which is why we need philosophy. Not as a means to conversationally make others feel inferior, to make yourself feel big and powerful (by this definition this is basically a textbook bully😅) Anyway I work as a barista and it’s super late and I’m still trying to close up shop so I’ll end this comment. Please continue to make KZfaq videos for as long you feel inspired to because it brings me great comfort
@RCWaldun
@RCWaldun 11 ай бұрын
You got it Zoey! So glad that my work is comforting to you. :)
@whateverbabe
@whateverbabe 11 ай бұрын
What a beautiful comment!
@arturoclavero9774
@arturoclavero9774 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this comment! Great insights my friend
@BogdanLiviu7
@BogdanLiviu7 11 ай бұрын
I love these conversational lectures. :))) Plato in 2023 filming his philosophical dialogues talking alone on the phone: "Well, Socrates, that is indeed so."
@RCWaldun
@RCWaldun 11 ай бұрын
The camera is Plato. 😂
@GaiatheSage
@GaiatheSage 11 ай бұрын
@@RCWaldun more like his cave.
@sarahstermolli9104
@sarahstermolli9104 11 ай бұрын
loved the video! i’ll be patiently waiting for robin to call jonathan at 5 am
@RCWaldun
@RCWaldun 11 ай бұрын
I'll definitely call him soon. Stay tuned for our whack conversation in the next episode.
@whateverbabe
@whateverbabe 11 ай бұрын
I just got into philosophy and I'm loving it so much, it's like opening a new door that combines everything from literature, science, religion, physics... etc
@booshkoosh7994
@booshkoosh7994 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely on point! This is a perfect form of video essay: like a socratic dialogue. Philosophy students do bring books to parties...(I do sometimes 🤫).
@TheChocolateChiken
@TheChocolateChiken 9 ай бұрын
It’s literally a monologue. It’s not Socratic at all.
@notcyfhr
@notcyfhr 9 ай бұрын
@@TheChocolateChikenmost people can understand what the other person is saying based off this. Ever listened into a conversation on the phone?
@justsamurai6984
@justsamurai6984 10 ай бұрын
One of the most imaginative, cinematic and captivating pieces of digital content I've ever seen. Something so simplistic and so boring turned so profound (in both the French and the English denomination).
@deadmqn_
@deadmqn_ 11 ай бұрын
Your content is undeniably useful to the students of the world. Love you Robin!
@aryamishra5640
@aryamishra5640 11 ай бұрын
Been following you since a long time. Your content never disappoints❤
@suulix4065
@suulix4065 7 ай бұрын
I really liked this format Robin thank you!
@cleopatrickk
@cleopatrickk 11 ай бұрын
Loved watching this phone call haha... it would indeed be ideal if philosophers used ordinary language in their works, as we all should be able to contemplate the higher things in life together.
@xiav3318
@xiav3318 10 ай бұрын
This was such a fun format, great video :)
@happyroden8826
@happyroden8826 11 ай бұрын
love your content, stay tuned on philosophy
@silviobarco142
@silviobarco142 6 ай бұрын
I really liked this video format!!
@mon3129
@mon3129 11 ай бұрын
increíble!! gracias por tu contenido, nunca me pierdo ningún video 😸
@abdulmuhsin4360
@abdulmuhsin4360 11 ай бұрын
This video is particularly coming at a right time as I have just finished tackling René Descartes Meditations on First Philosophy.
@percivalgraves521
@percivalgraves521 11 ай бұрын
I love the Video format. About the philsosophical terminology topic. The creation of these terminologies tries to fixate a certain complicated concept into a single word, so that it doesnt get even more convoluted. The issue oftentimes is, that (especially in Philosophy) these concepts have lead to more and more background knowledge needed about certain areas of Scientific/Artistic disciplines. I think this case can be descibed best by an analogy. Philosophy would be a tall building, that is getting larger and larger, as even more and more levels are getting added. For someone nowadays to explore that tower, it would take ages, because over the course of thousands of years, this building has been build. Oftentimes out of materials that we just cant comprehend at first (metaphorically and literally). If you enter this building you are surrounded by weird shapes, furniture and rooms from so many places and times, that you cant grasp it. This exact problem is present in philosophy, even moreso then other disciplines. The reason for that, is that Philosophy deals with questions, that just need a lot of concept and structure building. You are literally trying to explain fundamental questions, that try to integrate all other sciences at once, and have the claim to be used universally. Just imagine yourself a cake, which represents the reality (just take this word as it is, im not trying to play 4D-Chess with this Term). Every single piece of this cake, is a discipline. Biology, Physics, Sociology, Literature, Psychology etc. all are part of this whole cake. Each of them representing a small part in our vast reality, that they try to explore. Now a Philosophical theory, that wants to explain/answer a fundamental question, needs to basically be all of those cake pieces in one. Because if it doesnt, its not universally acceptable. As we know Life and the Universe are so complicated, that disciplines needs to heavily specialize, to even try to grasp all of the possible topics. So building such a theory, requires a vast ammount of knowledge in all these different disciplines. Not only that, you need to try to create new ones, or synthesize all of them. And well this Task is a task for not only a single lifetime, but a Task for the eternity of the human kind, thats why the Philosophical tower is a project, without an ending. This all sounds great, but like i said, the issue still persists. If you want to enter Philosophy, it get more and more complicated, because theories themselves get more and more complicated. As Humans get more knowledge about other parts of life and environment around us, these knowledges have to be involved in some way in Philosopical discourses. But for just a regular person, even a philosophy student nowadays, this all is just a convoluted jungle of different words, that have 50 meanings in different contexts, which are then synthesized again with other words and concepts that themselves have 50 meanings. To decipher all the semantic meanings is an impossible task. What Philosophy has to do, is not dumb down, thats not my point. But it needs to try to be clear in their wording. Thats why i love Wittgenstein. Yes he is difficult, and even thats an understatement. But what i have to say, is that i myself found it more enjoyable reading him, then Kant for example. Wittgenstein is soo precise in the things he is trying to say, that i personally believe Philosophy needs more clear wording, and precise meanings.
@allen5455
@allen5455 19 күн бұрын
Yeah, but I hated the novel.
@vs.sh.6312
@vs.sh.6312 11 ай бұрын
Wow, such an inviting piece of content
@realsht180
@realsht180 10 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@milanomills
@milanomills 9 ай бұрын
😸 you definitely have talent into creative manus scripts.
@nerd26373
@nerd26373 11 ай бұрын
This is a great video. We will continue supporting you and your channel no matter what.
@TawaayRang
@TawaayRang 11 ай бұрын
❤I really like your content.
@floramew
@floramew 11 ай бұрын
... I'm no philosopher but I legit do think faster than I talk 😂 it's a problem, sometimes I've been known to just leave out large chunks of sentences because I've forgotten that I haven't said that yet and I'm already thinking about the next thing
@rembrandtmonet154
@rembrandtmonet154 11 ай бұрын
I really love this video! It's so creative! Its omniscient viewer like quality made it much more interesting!!
@kaylareeds
@kaylareeds 11 ай бұрын
yesss its cool 🎉
@Ash-kq7zk
@Ash-kq7zk 11 ай бұрын
Hi robin , for someone who is interested in philoshphy and want to know more abt it in more or less profound way , wold you suggest a booklist or a roadmap to follow ? i am currently reading the story of philosophy by will durant and i dont know what to proceed next ..
@maweedhydary4835
@maweedhydary4835 7 ай бұрын
What's the name of the book in the thumbnail
@thothalarichard
@thothalarichard 11 ай бұрын
Do this so much that it isn't even the least bit abnormal to me. Was telling my daughter the other day I can't help but argue with myself.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 11 ай бұрын
Oh! I can bring books to parties? Never thought of doing that! I'm guessing that's not the lesson I should've learned from this. Ha!
@personwhohasnoname
@personwhohasnoname 11 ай бұрын
I want to see the Jonathan side of this conversation.
@thehoodieguy1341
@thehoodieguy1341 11 ай бұрын
"Number 2: They like to bring books to parties" - such precise prediction 😄
@Sallyy150
@Sallyy150 11 ай бұрын
And they LOVE to quote everything, I remember having a conversation with a philosophy student, and they would quote a different philosopher in each sentence until I asked them; Yeah, but what do you think?
@franekkessler489
@franekkessler489 11 ай бұрын
Felt like a stalker! Love the camera angle
@hhht7672
@hhht7672 10 ай бұрын
The mathematician Edward Kasner said that “Mathematics is the science which uses easy words for hard ideas” and based on this video and philosophy I’ve read I’d have to say that philosophy is like the humanities equivalent of this lol
@mrstormi
@mrstormi 11 ай бұрын
ahahaha that's exactly how i was sitting. im cracking upp
@26.saileeprakash36
@26.saileeprakash36 11 ай бұрын
idk why he reminds me of jughead from riverdale 😭 anyways love you robin🩷
@fatimabaria8052
@fatimabaria8052 11 ай бұрын
I'm not a philosophy student but i still bring books to parties
@leilastackleather9927
@leilastackleather9927 11 ай бұрын
Idealists are the most practical. The rest of the world just hasn’t caught on. 😊
@allen5455
@allen5455 19 күн бұрын
Kant is so obscure he "can't" be found.
@Varykino1917
@Varykino1917 11 ай бұрын
LOL - very good! "They like to travel back to the 20th century..." most of my life was in the 20th century. LOL Yes, indeed, it was very far away! LOL and the new term "Obscurantisme Terroriste." If you want some Obscurantisme Terroriste try taking accounting. I think the teachers like to get their rocks off by watching the students try to get their heads around the accounting definitions of words like "charge" and "credit" as we try to meld them with the lay definitions. I was half way through my term when I figured out that they were actually speaking a foreign language. The teachers won't clue you in. Well, it is sad that teachers are just as egotistical and tricky today as they were all the way back in the 20th century! LOL 😂
@bzyasmine5623
@bzyasmine5623 11 ай бұрын
Trouver quelqu'un comme vous obsédé par la philosophie l'art c'est un honneur merci
@AskAScreenwriter
@AskAScreenwriter 11 ай бұрын
While my major was in chemistry, I'm a polymath by inclination. While taking a management of organizational behavior course, I was amused by how certain terms were used in a different context, like wondering what outer-shell electrons had to do with positive encouragement of employees (valences).
@LittleMew133
@LittleMew133 3 ай бұрын
Why did you roast both yourself and your entire audience base simultaneously? Egregious.
@aklcraigc
@aklcraigc 11 ай бұрын
Nice idea/video but I think you're mixing up technical difficulty (such as French) with not actually having anything meaningful to say (such as Heidegger, Benjamin etc.).
@RCWaldun
@RCWaldun 11 ай бұрын
It depends on the philosopher, and yes, unfortunately Benjamin and Heidegger both fall into the «not having a lot to say » camp.
@huugosorsselsson4122
@huugosorsselsson4122 9 ай бұрын
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