Brilliant idea! My BT (now EE) telephone service was recently changed over to VOIP and the telephone adapter they supplied only worked for a few days and then no dial tone. A replacement adapter was no better so I followed your advice and all my old telephones now work as before. Thanks!

This is one of the best information videos I have ever seen on the internet. It must have taken you hours to make and even just 'think' of how to explain all this - fantastic mate.

Hi, BT engineer here. Strictly speaking the only wires you need to connect are the blue / blue - white (2 & 5). All other wires aren't used but no harm in connecting them

Good video on wiring. I agree that avoiding using all those plug-in adapters (I’d need three here) is worthwhile. The solution I opted for was to buy three new DECT phones (as others have suggested). This was a much more expensive option than buying the BT “adapters”. However, as others have pointed out, it has brought the benefit of reducing (but sadly not eliminating) unsolicited and scam calls. I also bought a power bank so that I could recharge my mobile phone from it during a power cut. Another drawback, that nobody seems to have mentioned, is that DECT phones are not as good for those who have hearing difficulties; conventional wired phones usually have louder speakers in the earpiece. The Pandora’s Box that you opened is, of course, the way that digital voice fails during power cuts. As too do DECT (wireless phones) because they too need power. Also no power = no ability to recharge your mobile phone (so you need a power bank at the very least which adds further to the expense to the public of the change over). Ofcom states that: "[Ofcom’s] research suggests that 68% of customers that have a landline in their home have a cordless phone only, and that 50% of customers that live in a home with only a landline phone use a cordless phone rather than a traditional corded phone. Cordless phones are very unlikely to work in the event of a power cut as the unit that plugs into the phone socket also needs mains power to work and these do not tend to have a battery." They then argued that since most customers had voluntarily [unknowingly is a better word] put themselves in the position that they could not call 999 over the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) during a power cut the principle of "Universal Service" had become less important. In its consultation on switching to digital voice [held between 24 May 2018 and 5 July 2018] Ofcom set out the principle that: “CPs [Communication Providers] should have at least one solution available that enables access to emergency organisations for a minimum of one hour in the event of a power outage in the premises.” The London Fire Brigade highlighted the inadequacy of this principle up very well: “Our [London Fire Brigade’s] concern on this principle is on circumstances where a power outage exceeds one hour. The limitation of one hour does not seem to satisfy the Universal Service Directive as stipulated in paragraph 2.14 of the consultation document. In the event that a power outage exceeds one hour people with no access to, or means to access alternative lines of communication, have no ability to contact the emergency services in the event of an emergency. While such circumstances may be infrequent, in areas of no or poor mobile signal some people, in particular those who are isolated, would be unable to contact the emergency services and so be left at risk. There would be even greater risks for those who are vulnerable and more at risk of having a fire, of being less able to react and have a reduced ability to escape in the event of a fire. Although an overview of UK power outages (2010-2015) reveals that there is a national average outage duration of 50 minutes, the average for Greater London is 156 minutes (2.6 hours). This clearly demonstrates a one hour solution is ineffective particularly in London. More importantly, relying on average times would mean that anyone exceeding the average is put at risk and so the times must be extended much further than one hour if a back up service is to be effective. Power outage contingency solutions should provide a critical uninterrupted connection for the purpose of fire survival guidance and emergency service appraisal of the situation at the incident centre. Communication providers should be aware of the fact that sometimes calls between emergency services and services users disconnect, and re-establishment of connections in these circumstances requires additional time.” Source: www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/117204/London-Fire-Brigade.pdf One thing this clearly indicates is that it's not just a problem in remote rural areas. The LFB is saying that in London the average power cut is longer than the national average (at 2.6 hours) and, as it points out, catering for the average is not good enough. Unfortunately Ofcom didn’t address the LFB's concerns in its final guidance. The solutions offered vary from CP to CP some of them are better than others. I'd argue that even a 12 hour UPS is insufficient. As at least one person has said, this could prove to be the next big scandal.

I would just like to say this about the new system. I work with people who are vulnerable in the community. Lots of them have no internet and wont purchase internet but have a house phone. What are they goint to do. Second if you loose power you have no phone your means of communication with the outside world is gone. The good old phone analog phone line was not affected by a lack of electricity just the pount when you might need your phone to call for help. Progress is not necessarily better.

A useful video for people, but it starts off rather over complicating things. After disconnecting the home extension cable from the master socket, it is not necessary to reroute it anywhere. As Rob himself points out at 11:10 in the video, all you have to do is disconnect the home extension cable from the master socket, and leave it disconnected but otherwise in place. And then connect your hub phone adapter socket to any extension socket. There may of course be already a telephone connected to an extension socket near the hub, -in this case use a telephone socket doubler to allow connection to the hub. Also, if you have two extension cables coming out of the master socket, you would need to connect them together after disconnecting from the master socket. Rather than using awkward twisted connections, it would be neater and more reliable to use an added extension socket and IDC the extension cable connections together, as Rob also points out. A very useful point that this video highlights is the use of the male to male connector cable to connect your hub phone adapter socket to your home extensions.

We were switched over recently by BT. Yes it works BUT we need a landline as where we live if the electricity or Internet goes down we have no mobile signal. So now if we lose either electricity or Internet we have no phone. BT are not interested and their only solution was to try and sell us battery backup for over 80 quid, which we refused. Yes alot of people may have ditched their landlines but for those of us with no mobile signal it's not an option. Also certain items of medical equipment will no longer work in a power outage. I do believe BT have now halted the switchover due to serious safety concerns for vulnerable people. Too late for us and I'm done with ringing them for a solution because they couldn't care less! I'm just glad my nearly 90 year old parents have been saved the stress as like many elderly people they don't eve have the Internet. Thanks for video and happy new year to you.🎉🎉

What everyone forgets to mention is that whilst traditional fixed wired phones are supplied with power via the BT lines AND work during power cuts the new VOIP phones won't work. For 3 years now BT have avoided answering questions relating to this problem.

We've not had a landline for over 10 years, but a good video, Rob for those that keep their house phone.

In Greece it works the following way: Just plug the router tel socket, to the walls old socket (plug to plug), and thus, it gives you tone in all the phone plugs in the house. You can try this first. This works with fiber to the home line separately. Without fiber to the home (vdsl) you can use a spliter to make it work. But all this hassle sounds like something British Telecom should do, and not mess you up and then fixing their mistakes.

Nice video! I did basically the same at my home. We're on Virgin and I set it up ahead of time so It was a very simple for the engineer to switch the system over. I also moved the router to a new location as I didn't want the possibility of the engineer causing issues with adjacent equipment with the router in its old location. One thing I would do is, unless you have any very old phone that rely on the separate Ring signal or Earth connection if it's a real antique phone, remove ALL the Master Sockets completely and if you need a socket where a Master Socket was then replace it with a Slave Socket. This is important as a Master Socket is, by design, a constant load on the line and the removal ensures the best signal from the router. A lot of routers are actually very weak in output, especially in terms of ring current capability which is stepped up from the router's power supply. Most routers run from a small 12 Volt DC supply and this low input voltage is stepped up to the normal Ring voltage of between 70 and 100 (very occasionally 110) volts and the normal line voltage is -48 Volts DC. For example, a telephone that draws 200mA from the line when in use will draw an extra 800mA from the router's low voltage power supply. As a ringing example, if the ring voltage was 102 volts and the telephones along the line draw a total of 400mA then the current draw at 12V would be 4.8A as the Ring voltage is AC not DC. In these examples, it is easy to see why the output of a router can only drive maybe two or three telephones maximum as the current draw of the telephone side of things is in addition to the existing power requirements for the network and broadband electronics. This is why a few routers came with physically large and hefty power supplies. Unfortunately there is likely little to be gained, except perhaps improved reliability and lifespan, by upgrading the router power supply as the internal electronics are unlikely to deliver more output to run more phones even it the power supply was capable. A few people may be lucky and find that their router has at some point been supplied with a somewhat beefier power supply and may gain some benefit from upgrading it. Of course, the usual caveats of possibly voiding any warranty on equipment and potential damage to equipment by the use of third-party parts applies if you're thinking of using a power supply other that the one supplied.

Well presented and clear. Glad you mentioned no pjone if there's a power cut but another couple of things people forget are that autodialing burgler/fire alarms won't work and critically, panic alarms for elderly are also out of action.

My BT line has just gone digital and your information was very helpful to enable me to have my house wired phone sockets working. Thanks Rob.

So what happens when the power goes off? If you live in a rural area and constantly having power outages then you don’t get a phone line? And you can’t rely on mobiles ether, as the mast goes down?

Thanks for this. I was expecting this to work and planned to do this when my line is switched over, you have confirmed that my plan is sensible.

That took me back, I used to work in the telecoms team for a company. Part of the job was installing telephone sockets from the PABX. We called that tool a Krone tool, I think maybe the company that made them was called Krone.. We haven't had a landline for years now, just use mobile phones.

Had this exact issue 2 years ago, the Mrs grandparents had there digital switch over I was tasked with adapting there analouge hard of hearing phones over. I belive there were BT and at the time they were issued 2x wireless connectors but as stated needed sockets to work. They do work but now you have posted this I may pop back and reuse there original wiring to save the sockets. Thank you

Clear and concise instructions - great video!

Hi Rob and Gail, some great info there. There is still an albeit diminishing demand for landlines, we have elderly relatives with no BB and our selfbuild is impervious to mobile signal, must be all that tin foil, upside being we can have heating on all winter for a thimble full of heating oil. I was heavily involved with FTTC when it was first introduced things have moved on apace since then with FTTP, that was 13 years ago.Like Graham Bell said in his comment I also still have my Krone tool from the good old days.Best wishes to you both and look forward to more of Gail’s “glueing together” in 2024👍

A beautifully clear instruction video anyone can follow. Well done.

Whilst connecting the house hold old phone sockets works, the relatively long cables run here there and everywhere. Hence this internal house network of wire is open to electrical noise pickup and at worst during a thunderstorm could experience induced energy from any nearby lightning strike. There is no lightning protection on the internal network as in the video the internal network has been isolated from the BT master inlet. The electrical noise could cause the router to glitch, any induced energy could damage the router. I have seen the lightning induces energy problem with long RS232 communications cables. Perhaps the new internal network could be protected if a new dedicated master inlet is used nearest the router. This would have the lightning gas discharge or Transorb devices fitted. Just a thought…

Yes, I had to do this because I have phones all around the house into each room and I was told they wouldn't work unless I used adapters at my own expense or purchased a new DECT set up to replace them all instead - BT help was useless as they didn't have a clue and refused to supply anything other than a new router. So, when I was switched over to digital voice I found out by experimentation I could plug a double adapter into the router - one for the main hall telephone and the other to the nearest extension socket and then all my extension sockets worked as normal.

Great Video, Very thorough instructions 😃

Switched back in September from bt to a voip provider once I had cityfibre fttp installed, saving a fortune on having a landline number that costs just £1.44 to rent a month & the calls are so much cheaper than bt charged! Decided to ditch the landline phones we had as they were rubbish anyway & got dedicated voip handsets & base station.

Thank you. Will do this if they push. Had heard it was coming. Same with Phono to Optical, Scart to HDMI, then we realise it isn’t as good or no better. New plug same thing.

Absolutely fantastic presentation, complete and informative and easy to follow. The only suggestion I have for FTTP (Fibre to the Premises) maybe to utilise the redundant BT NTE Box as your access point from the Router and into the house telephone wiring network as it is likely already connected, the only change you may need to make inside the BT NTE is to ensure that the old BT external network copper cable back to the exchange is disconnected inside the box (old A and B wire).

Hi Rob lovely video and explanation... you know your stuff.

at 12:45 you say about power cuts and that being when your mobile comes in handy - IF you have good mobiles signal. I have to use calls over WiFi because our mobile network is so weak you have to move near a window UPSTAIRS to stand a chance of using mobile! I am going to fight the change to VoIP because of this!

I've already converted for other reasons but one thing that I noticed recently when there was a general power cut due to a power line failure is that the line is liable to shut down anyway even if, as I have, a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) powering the hub/router. This is unlike analogue phones so you may need a mobile phone anyway.

Great presentation, well done regards mark

I live in an extremely rural area that frequently experiences power outages, sometimes lasting for days. It's also a mobile blackspot of about 3 miles radius. Not that a mobile phone is going to last very long without any means to keep it charged. However, in all the years we've had power cuts, the phone line has always continued working. With a line-powered phone, I can continue making and receiving calls, even in a power cut. I'm just wondering what people in my position are supposed to do when we're forced to switch to IP phones? Because as far as I can tell, we're going to be completely cut off from any form of communications. In a medical emergency, that could literally be fatal. Will the government be providing free diesel generators and fuel for those forced to switch to a form of communications that requires a constant reliable electrical supply, in rural areas where the power goes out every time there's a storm? Probably not, would be my guess. They haven't really thought this one through properly, have they? A bit like their 2030 ban on cars that people can actually afford. What they're saying is that, basically, in the future, only rich people will be allowed to live in the countryside, and everyone else will be forced to live in inner city slums.

Great clarification. Far simpler than I'd expected. I'd only had hearsay about how they were implementing VoIP and was therefore expecting to need after-market electronics to achieve what you've shown. Your solution is essential zero cost, given that I've bits leftover form many other telephone wiring experiences. My local exchange is a low priority, so it's last 2024 or 2025 before it happens. I'm now not so feart of the consequences!

Open reach and Virgin have both suspended the roll out of digital lines to vulnerable households. These include any house with a Caroline, or where the householder has no requirement for a broadband connection. They have done this due to Caroline systems being designed to allow a silent call to be traced to a given address. This cannot be done using VOIP. This also means emergency services cannot trace silent calls either, thus putting people's lives at risk.

A UPS (uninterruptible power supply) for the hub can be a good way to keep both broadband and 'phones working in a power outage. A fairly small, less than £60 one, will do for the low power consumption devices. Just be sure to swap out the battery about every three years.

I live in a cottage with 2ft thick stone walls that block most (90%+) mobile signals. Normally if I get a power cut it is due to extreme weather which means I need to go outside in gale force winds/driving rain to report it. Before anyone suggest sitting in the car to make the mobile call - I don't have one. Why do I need to report the loss of power? Because that can affect how much if any compensation you may get plus as I'm on the at risk register it ensures they are aware of my particular needs.

Rob your a clever Chappie 😁👍

Great idea, I just thought I'll do this to get more phones round the house. But then I remembered nobody calls me. So no need to bother I gess. I had to go digital last year, making two old phones usless, luckily an engineer came with a new phone in the deal that i got and he told me about the phone socket hidden in the back of router. So I could connect one if by some strange reason I get a social life.

The Mrs says i can imagine you trying to do that😅 I said your dead right! I'll see if Rob would pop down!😅 Clever lad you are Rob! Happy new to you both!

Got to say Rob great workmanship in all your DIY videos! Do you mind me asking what you do for work? Some sort of engineering back ground possibly

My father hasn't got any internet hub etc, all he has is a standard BT landline

Good video. With regard power cuts, in my area we also lose the local cell tower as no UPs or generator

Further to my previous comment, I now find that not all the old phones connected to the original wiring show the callers name from the contact list. The one that doesn't (BT Decor 2500) is old so I might try to find a replacement. At least it's reliable now!

Wow very useful and informative content 😊😊😊 new friend here nice to meet you❤❤❤

Thanks for that, power cuts are a nightmare in the countryside though because usually the only mast we have is the one connected to the same grid as the village. So if theres no power in the village theres no power for our only mobile mast😢

Interesting, BT doesn’t use standard RJ11 connectors! Here in Greece (and the States ) everything is RJ11. We are getting a light pipe into the home by the end of January (yeah right, here in Greece? Nothing follows a timeline here.) They have already delivered the optical to WAN adapter that will provide the pots line hook up to the in house phones. As for my FreePBX digital phone system I am using a FXO to digital input on the server. This way there is very little chance hackers can access directly the server. As for power loss, the Wi-Fi router and the Optical adapter are on a dedicated UPS that I bought from the phone company, should provide around four hours standby time. The main issue is IF THE PHONE COMPANY HAS BACKUP POWER IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD HUBS.??

Before Broadband and the Internet accessing a computer from home meant dialling up over your phone line. This could result in your line being busy for hours on end. To get round this problem I had a second line installed by BT; so I had one for voice and one for data (that line being Ex-Directory because I didn't want any one to call it). To achieve this BT used one of the redundant (unused) pairs of wires in the incoming cable.

Remember when Voip promised to free us all from landline charges, if everyone is on voip what a pity we still have to pay, especially if you go over an hour

Ya ! I can just see my 93 year old neighbour doing this 😂

Digital is easier for Big Brother and the establishment to monitor !

You did not mention that the classic dial telephones don't dial out on VOIP. Get yourself a 'Dial-A-Tone' converter from 'Vintage Telephony' and the old telephones will be back up and running.

From the US here but the PSTN is not shutting down but is no longer required to be given federally but the states (like your countys but can pass laws) regulate the PSTN providers. The PSTN was never Goverment owned and is also shared with Canada, and some islands. The provider was ATT until 1984 mainly was mainly refered to as the Bell System as theres operating companys when it was broken up they became, Pacific Telsis, US West, BELLSOUTH, Southwestern Bell, Americtech, NYNEX, Bell Altantic, and ATT for long distance, nowadays its Centurylink(USWEST) ATT(Pacific Telsis, BELLSOUTH, Southwestern Bell, and Americtech) Verizon (NYNEX, Bell Altantic) but forced switchover dosent happen just for some areas it will be Provider wide.

Great video, thanks. I also really like your bronze/gold-coloured faceplates with the black switches. Very smart. They look high-end. Can you remember what brand they are please? Liked and subscribed.

Cat7a is a bit overkill for broadband cabling

And when we have a power cut which will happen then no phone. Not all of us have or want a mobile.

Thanks for the video. I am worried about the switchover to digital. Currently when there is a power cut, I plug in an old analogue phone as there is zero mobile signal here. I won't be able to do that after the switchover, leaving us with no way of contacting emergency services if we need to. The price of rural living it seems 😶

Many thanks! XX.R.

Worth mentioning that old phones may require the Bell wire connected (orange/white pin 3) to make them ring. This comes from a ringing capacitor in the old PT box. The routers often don't have the ringing capacitor / bell wire connection but you can solve this by getting a dongle, containing the ringing capacitor, to place between the router connection and your fixed wiring from Amazon and the usual suppliers.

Some very handy info here folks, thankyou! ☎📶👍 One thing to be aware of - Particularly if using your Hub/Router as the connection point for your telephones - Is to check that the maximum *Ringer Equivalent Number (REN)* supported by the hub is higher than the total number of telephones/fax/etc devices on your telephone system. If your telephones total a higher REN than the hub can support, your phones might not work properly/at all, or it might even damage the hub. ⚠ Special care ought to be taken with any telephones that predate the 1990s (Especially those with bells or warblers in them, which will tend to be REN 3+) and if you use these you might want to consider getting an extra digital adaptor to dedicate to that specific telephone. 👍

The router and modem are powered by a mains to 12V DC unit. If you are in an area prone to power cuts then you could make a set of emergency leads to connect these unit to a car battery.

Very Interesting video, I still have some traditional working 1960s telephones with a dial and bell, would voip respond to traditional dialling pulses instead of tones? @9:28 you plugged the desk phone in and had dialling tone, thats the bit when I’d plug in and try out my old phones.

Very interesting Rob 👍 but blimey we ditched the landline about 3 years ago as it was never really used it .. answer phone went a long time ago .. ps its s good job Gail is on hand with the prompts lol 👍

Some old DECT cordless phones can be registered directly to the ISP gateway.

Hi, rural dweller here also disabled and in an area with patchy broadband and regular electricity cuts. Will this enable me to keep my big button plug in phone functioning during power cuts as a way of calling in our power cuts as the electrcompany doesn't accept calls from mobile and our cordless phone goes pfutttt when there is no electric

“We’ll glue it together” correct term is - “We’ll fix it in Post” (-Production). 😎

An interesting video but assuming most people only want phones around the house surely a DECT system with a base station connected to the router would suit most people and a fairly simple solution with no wiring changes? We use a set of Panasonic phones and have no problems with using them upstairs and downstairs. We have not yet been switched over to VOIP but BT are currently putting in fibre outside our house which will no doubt be the point when they say we have to change?

I did something similar 2 weeks ago. But I just connected my router phone socket directly to the master socket thus enabling all other sockets in the house.

Presumably we can also ditch any adsl filters on the slave sockets?

It depends on your provider. Because I was not given a transition date except "if the broadband goes dead", stylee, they assumed I wanted to keep analogue service which they achieve via a modem in the roadside cabinet. So the phone was "no change" unless you listen to the quality of the line, it is a downgrade, fer sure. The tip I would give is switch off the new broadband router when not in use. The drop-outs have all but gone

Didn't need to any of this with Virgin media. Telephony connector from hub to any phone socket in the house made all the others work, and VM gave me a socket doubler so that we can still use the box the telephony cable ties into.

Had a comment from Kenneth Exton but it will not display and I cannot reply to the notification. If you read this Kenneth, could you try again please. Thank you, Rob

What kind of REN can a hub support? ...I already went digital with my phone system and included an ATA in the picture (every phone on my system has its own internal number) ...at first, my landline was plugged into my ATA (it has 4 FXO and 4 FXS) ...later, when I took my BT line Digital I got the (wireless) adaptor for the landline and plugged IT into my ATA ...I already have that disk thingy and my whole rig is electrically isolated from my hub (I have the same hub as you)...

Thank you

My auntie who is eight only as a BT land line and no internet will they replace it with a internet hub instead and charge her the same monthly fee. Does that mean she will have wireless broad bad as well. She received £8 a year of BT for having a telegraph pole in her garden, not much if you ask me.

Hi. Great video thanks. 😃👍 Any thoughts if one doesn't have and doesn't want Wi-Fi?!

Any advice for buildings that have more than one landline number, please? Our telephone provider told me they would have to cancel one of the phone lines, which would mean having just one shared landline number, leading to me sometimes picking up my parents calls & having to run downstairs with my phone or them picking up my calls & having to do run upstairs with their phone! Also, we'd have to work out whose calls where whose on the bill - I'm dreading having to explain all this to my elderly parents! A friend said there is a way to connect 2 phone lines to one router & those phone lines can have different numbers but I'm not sure how it works or how to get the phone company to understand that that's what we want them to do!

Not sure how this can work for my situ. My Fibre to property terminates from the outside with a BT box having 4 status lights and just one Ethernet feed from it to the Vodafone supplied fibre router. The box like the one you stripped the wires from is no longer part of any active system. Therefore I have to have a wireless phone set plugged into the router. Am I missing something? As for power cuts.. why not just run the router off a 12v battery if the house power goes down? As long as the Openreach systems in the street still have power I imagine all would still work, VOIP and any hard wired analogue handsets. My battery would also have to power the Openreach fibre to Ethernet box, the one with the service status lights on board. The lights depict - Power, LOS (I assume, loss of signal), PON and LAN.

Nice video. Do you have any suggestions for providing backup power (to the hub) for people like us who have no mobile signal and have to use wifi calling for our mobiles?

My provider (Virgin Media) did all this; sent an engineer out to disconnect the old landline, wired the new hub into the existing extension sockets and configured everything. It took a couple of days to switch it over at the exchange so they refunded me a month's subscription. It seems I was lucky. BT were not very impressive in this case.

I have not know Telephone Socket be in the loft. Northernpower Grid don't recommend Digital Telephones Switchover because if there is a Powercut then the Landline telephone is cut off and if you're Mobile running out of battery and needs charging up during a powercut you are stuck.

Here's an idea: make the national grid and telecom infrastructure robust to prevent outages in the first place. Maybe windmills won't cut it.

In the good old days the “landline” would remain working even during a power cut

I'm soon changing from ADSL to fibre. Will any providers router operate my dect phone? Or is it just BT routers that are compatible with dect phones? Ta

In the weeks before I switched to FTTC, I plugged my 1990 BT Melody into my Router and it worked. Once on FTTC I decided to ditch the landline - I rarely ring anyone.

It is also worth shopping around VOIP/SIP providers and getting phone separate from internet

Going totally digital is all very well but it’s completely useless when we get power cuts as happened to us a couple of years ago, we were out for several days. We get them quite frequently where we live. Mobile didn’t work either as we rely on WiFi calling here and obviously we ran out of charge. We intended to get an old landline phone to plug into the wall socket.

I patched my extentions phone line into the 2nd socket on my router now they all work as before

Why is there network cable coming out the master socket. Never seen that.

thank you for explaining how to move the socket, but it still does not solve the problem of what happens when the broadband goes down. Please remember not every one has access to a mobile phone for any number of reasons., These could include not having a mobile phone , no signal for them unable to use them (mobility or sight problems amongst the reasons), cost of handsets or service costs (monthly fees) or any other variables

wiring diagram would be helpful,too.Thanks

We get powercuts and there's no mobile signal here. We use Wi-Fi calling. After analogue shutdown how would we contact emergency services in the event of a powercut?

But how many routers have socket for phone plug with side locking tab, mine only takes square shaped plugs with top tab.

Brilliant rob disnt know this was happening?

I got a cable pluged into the router at one end & the phone at the other but I get no noise or tone what so ever so not sure if it is done with being setup by our ISP yet or if there is a issue we have a BT Decor 2200 V2 phone

I have heard nothing formally about this. We have no fibre (even FTTC) and, according to BT, no plans to offer it. Broadband around here is patchy at best, so I think this is not going to happen. We had a powercut recently and the mobile signal (vodafone) went as well. I think you are a bit behind what is really happening in country areas - I am sure BT would love to remove all landlines, but they are not going to be able to. See those various comments below about this.

It might be a good idea to sick a blanking label/patch over the old BT master socket outlet so no one is tempted to accidentally plug an analogue phone in there anymore.

I have a landline I only keep for Sky box with dish (not Q) - how will digital switch over affect me please ?

Its not clear to me whether he's using a VoIP phone. And what's the model number of the router?

Just switching to full fibre and my provider says i will be happy to loose my landline but say i do want to plug in a phone how do i get a number for it? Is there a provider in the uk like Google voice us?

Bit confused (not very techy!). I have just the old master socket with broadband and phone. This is in the loft. I am currently looking for a new broadband supplier, but they are indeed all telling me that they won't do landlines anymore (has to be VOIP)...so what will come into the property? Is it a new line - and nothing to do with the current 'BT' line? Does it still come from the pole outside?

So the Telecom companies decide that these analogue sockets are redundant. But in what way are things improved. I can't think of any way that this 'upgrade' has resulted in an improvement for the end user. Please tell me if you think this is an improvement over the original socket system. Are they doing it to monopolise the communications infrastructure, resulting in less choice in the future?