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How to write battles and wars

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James Tullos

James Tullos

Күн бұрын

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@RocknRoll301199
@RocknRoll301199 3 жыл бұрын
Vídeo: Cute kittens Audio: How to create a brutal and realistic war setting
@refoliation
@refoliation Жыл бұрын
yeah I noticed that too lol!
@JeevesAnthrozaurUS
@JeevesAnthrozaurUS 3 жыл бұрын
Too complicated, I'll just have a Dark Elf fight off 10,000 Orcs
@thebushwhacker8496
@thebushwhacker8496 3 жыл бұрын
Or some random kid who’s never used a weapon kill a group of 8 foot tall all muscled orcs
@cam4636
@cam4636 3 жыл бұрын
With dual-wielded scythes
@herickkenalgin4473
@herickkenalgin4473 3 жыл бұрын
What about have a six man team of marines single-handedly overthrow the elected lea-I mean, dictator of a small nation, to advance America’s influe-I mean, bring freedom to all those citizens! Yes, no ulterior motives from the Good Ol’ USA!
@T2G-DJT
@T2G-DJT 3 жыл бұрын
@@herickkenalgin4473 Hell yeah brother
@Peter-ui6ey
@Peter-ui6ey 3 жыл бұрын
@@herickkenalgin4473 If you wanna make insinuations, give me three examples. Otherwise, please don't.
@khizarch4910
@khizarch4910 3 жыл бұрын
We’ve driven James to such despair he started talking to his dog...
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It is a very cute dog.
@Reilly-Maresca
@Reilly-Maresca 3 жыл бұрын
@@BoisegangGaming I would talk to Oscar too were I able.
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 3 жыл бұрын
There at least is one real war that was kinda similar to a Fantasy conflict: the Paraguayan War, also called War of Triple Alliance (1864-1870). It involved a single country (Paraguay) ruled by a tyrant (Francisco Solano Lopez), who decided it was a good idea to attack Brazil and Argentina at the same time, two rival nations who where forced to cease their rivalry to defeat a common enemy. Later, Uruguay joined the Triple Alliance. One of the greatest allied victories of this war was the capture of a giant fortress called Humaitá, which can be compared with the destruction of the Death Star, in a twisted way. The paraguayan soldiers were also know for their devotion in battle, fighting until the last man, and almost never retreating. Another moment of that war that appears a scene from a Fantasy book occurred in the Battle of the Bridge of Itororó: After five failed offensives over the bridge, the brazilian commander Luis Alvez de Lima e Silva pushed a ""Leeroy Jenkins moment", advancing with sword in hand and exclaming "Those who are Brazilians follow me!". The bridge was captured short after. It is also curious that Lopez whas almost a "You Failed me for the Last Time, General" type of dictator, killing several officers who gave him bad notices. One of the reasons of the paraguayan defeat was his ruthless way of dealing with defeated commanders. After losing too many battles, Francisco Solano Lopez got even more insane, killing a brother (Angel Lopez) and torturing his sister (Rafaela Lopez) and his mother (Juana Carillo). The war ended with the death of the "Dark Lord", by the spear of a brazilian soldier called Francisco Lacerda.
@mollof7893
@mollof7893 3 жыл бұрын
Francisco killed by Francisco, sounds like one of those "the hero and villain are the same"
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 3 жыл бұрын
@@mollof7893 Another fun (and ironic) fact: Francisco Lacerda was allowed to take a silver knife that belonged to Francisco Solano Lopez, which had the same initials (FL) engraved in the sheath.
@GiangLe-kg4vn
@GiangLe-kg4vn 3 жыл бұрын
Just read up on this war, one of the leaders of the war was even an actual Emperor as well
@jatzi1526
@jatzi1526 3 жыл бұрын
There's been so much fighting in the world that there are a lot of examples of battles and wars that did kinda work like fantasy battles/wars. War is basically the embodiment of chaos and so you get weird stuff sometimes. Fighting to the end I think becomes more common as you get closer to modern day. The objective of WWI and WWII was to kill the entire army. Both of those wars were won because Germany ran out of ppl to fight. During Verdun a particular fort was held almost to the end by the French garrison. They fought so well and bravely that the commander of the fort was brought before the Kaiser's son, who was leading the overall battle, and presented with a sword I think.
@ZephLodwick
@ZephLodwick 3 жыл бұрын
90% of Paraguayan men died in this war.
@5h0rgunn45
@5h0rgunn45 3 жыл бұрын
About defence: while defenders' advantage is a thing, it must also be said that by going on the defence, you surrender the initiative to the enemy. Initiative, both on the tactical and strategic levels, is very important. The army with the initiative can do whatever they think is best to win the battle or war, while the other side is stuck reacting to the enemy. If you have a good commander fighting a defensive battle, don't just have him sit there and wait for the enemy to come to him. He should be launching constant raids and counter-attacks to keep the enemy off-balance and to try and regain the initiative to go on the offensive again. In other words, a good commander who's fighting on the defence, will make it as proactive a defence as possible. This can be seen in things like the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd battles of Changsha, China, in WW2. Each time, the Chinese commander, Xue Yue, drew the Japanese deep behind the front lines, then held them at prepared defensive positions outside Changsha. Meanwhile, he had guerilla troops harassing their rear, and massed regular troops along their flanks. When the time came, he closed the trap and the Japanese were cut off from supplies and reinforcements. The Japanese were then forced to retreat back to their starting positions with Chinese troops attacking them from all sides the whole way.
@hwaryun7042
@hwaryun7042 Жыл бұрын
Julius Ceaser was a master at keeping the initiative. Most of his battles espically in Gaul . It was his turn then his turn again then his turn again oh they surrendered, next army!
@wyldetimesreviews
@wyldetimesreviews 3 жыл бұрын
This is legit one of favorite book-oriented KZfaq channels. Your narration is often direct, earnest, and informative. There’s little fluff, and you strike a good balance between informing the audience and adding humor where it’s most effective. The cats made this video really funny, too.
@villeuusivuori7150
@villeuusivuori7150 3 жыл бұрын
Oscars enthusiasim for the add read is what really sells it. Give him some scritches for his thespian tour de force.
@khadirahassan7634
@khadirahassan7634 3 жыл бұрын
How you 20 hours old
@villeuusivuori7150
@villeuusivuori7150 3 жыл бұрын
@@khadirahassan7634 The magic of Patreon and Time zones.
@zeno24f57
@zeno24f57 3 жыл бұрын
Love hearing someone talk about death,war ecc... while watching some cute kittens playing together
@noahhamilton9004
@noahhamilton9004 3 жыл бұрын
WAR KITTENS!!!
@jaspervanheycop9722
@jaspervanheycop9722 3 жыл бұрын
As a student of Central Asian history, I gotta say that your conception of horse archers is pretty tainted by popsci conceptions: Firstly the various peoples that used mounted archery used it as part of combined arms tactics, there is no historical example of an army exclusively composed of them. For example the Mongols backed up their horse archers with infantry forces, and a band of horsemen would be made up of both lancers and horse archers with 4 lancers and only 3 archers. The Pahlavans (often referred to by their Latinised name Parthians) deployed their horse archers in conjunction with heavy shock cavalry, same for the Sauromatae (Sarmatians) who supported the archers with armoured lancers. Secondly horse archery was highly ineffective against armoured and disciplined infantry formations. Even mail could stop the low draw weight bows that could be used from a horse. This is why many horse archers would carry a heavy warbow and then dismount to use it. One of the only examples of horse archers defeating infantry is the battle of Carrhea, where the testudo only buckled because the Roman leadership foolishly got themselves killed in a cavalry engagement against superior Pahlavan heavy cavalry which crushed morale. Heavy cavalry also could scatter horse archers. The crusaders saw so much early success against Arab forces because their shock cavalry often routed the lighter skirmish cavalry of the Arabs. Their fortunes reversed when the Egyptians and Turks adopted their own heavy cavalry. It doesn't detract from your overall points, but it just bothers me how much "common knowledge" on mounted archery is just plain wrong. Don't take Total War or History Channel docs at face value!
@gorkamorka41m84
@gorkamorka41m84 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Can i ask you then, what was it, that made peoples like Mongols so succesfull, if it wasn't the horse archers?
@jaspervanheycop9722
@jaspervanheycop9722 3 жыл бұрын
@@gorkamorka41m84 Cavalry and martial skill did play a part, but it was mostly logistical and organisational excellence. Remember that the Mongols mostly fought peoples as adapt at mounted archery as they were.
@gorkamorka41m84
@gorkamorka41m84 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaspervanheycop9722 Ok. That makes sense.
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 3 жыл бұрын
@@gorkamorka41m84 Mounted archers were only one component of Mongol armies. They used infantry and heavy cavalry very effectively, and their wars against China made them expert siegecrafters as well. Genghis Khan also had the obvious yet at the time revolutionary idea to promote people based on competence and merit rather than aristocratic heritage. A lifetime of living in the saddle in harsh condition made them an exceptionally hardy people. You give a people like that leaders like Genghis and Kublai, and generals like Subutai and Jebe, and you've got yourself one of the most effective fighting forces in history.
@oscarwind4266
@oscarwind4266 Жыл бұрын
I was gonna add some horse archers to a setting so thanks for some proper information on them.
@Breadothy
@Breadothy 3 жыл бұрын
you have the same vibes as that kid who hyperfixated on warfare and ww1 and 2 in middle school and you've just retained that knowledge
@warstriker857
@warstriker857 2 жыл бұрын
That's me rn
@waldo..8021
@waldo..8021 3 жыл бұрын
A grype that I have with battles is dual wielding. It's stupid. It's was practiced here and there, "but only by the youths who were eager to die." Sword and shield or sword and dagger were much better options. Also, for most of history, swords were secondary weapons. Polearms were your primary weapons.
@skyblade7438
@skyblade7438 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's *cool*.
@dmas7749
@dmas7749 3 жыл бұрын
god dual-wielding was fucking awesome when i was a kid now whenever i see it i can't think about anything other than how impractical it looks
@waldo..8021
@waldo..8021 3 жыл бұрын
@@wren1024 yeah, I think some styles were meant for competitions and duelling and not war. I think other fighting styles were purely for self-defence. one such example has to be sickle fighting, (nothing communist about it) it's probably the weirdest system I've ever learned.
@guyofminimalimportance7
@guyofminimalimportance7 3 жыл бұрын
What about fencers who would use one normal rapier and a smaller, dagger like one? As you can tell by my word choice I'm by no means an expert on this subject; but I've heard of this combo in history before.
@volodymyrboitchouk
@volodymyrboitchouk 3 жыл бұрын
Dual wielding could be justified under certain conditions in a fight. The problem with dual wielding is that in the hands of a very skilled fighter it is arguably better than a pole arm or sword and shield in a large fight. But in the hands of an average or novice fighter it is worse than useless. Also, front line heavy infantry need polearms or they'll get skewered on those of the enemy (roman legions being an exception to this rule). But an elite force of light infantry intended to skirmish with the enemy and attack the flanks could be equipped with two swords an be effective. Dual wielding gives the distinct advantage of being able to attack from both directions. Most shields can do the same, but typically lack reach. Also, a longsword and shortsword/dagger setup allows a soldier to fight effectively at medium range as well as when grappling. In a one on one polearms are still better because with room to retreat the extra reach wins out. But outflanked or disorganized infantry rarely have that kind of room to maneuver. Dual wielding troops coming in on the flank or filtering through their own lines to reach a weak point in the enemy formation could close to grappling range and start laying about. The disadvantage of fighting in formation with polearms is precisely that if troops with shorter weapons can penetrate the formation then it typically devolves into a slaughter. This was how Roman legions defeated hellenic phalanxes and is also the principle behind the zweihander. In short, an elite force of dual wielding infantry intended for penetrating weak points in an enemy battle line where most enemies use polearms would be effective as long as they never charged an enemy shield wall unsupported.
@vallergergo737
@vallergergo737 3 жыл бұрын
From around 4:00 to 4:10 This would be actually a pretty engaging, smart, and accurate way of trying to identify elite/veterans of the enemy army in storytelling: It is generally true that most nations that had the capability to field an army also had elite troops of some kind, from the tribal chief's chosen, to the royal guard to the noble knights of the kingdom, or the grenadiers of the line from the archaic to the modern period. So say, having their vibrant colors on display would signal to both friend and foe that the nation is taking this decisive step (as these elites are a bit harder to replace than you average infantrymen) and is actively seeking battle with the enemy. This alone could have morale effects on the 2 sides. Not to mention that in battle, if the entire enemy army routs but you can't chase them as there are elements of it participating in an organized retreat/last stand that still poses a threat to any lone rider trying to score a few kills on the fleeing enemy battle line, it could add a lot of important longlasting implications to the whole narrative. Moments like that are rare yes, but that also means that they carry a lot more weight when they happen.
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 3 жыл бұрын
The dog is like: "Dude, what I'm doing here?"
@tibbyelliott2543
@tibbyelliott2543 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, I just started doing some military sci fi worldbuilding. Nice channel!
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@doubleflores8350
@doubleflores8350 3 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite depiction of a realistic war, well as realistic as you can get with high fantasy, is the hundred years war from Avatar: the last Airbender. The steaks are made perfectly clear, there are four nations, the fire nation is up against the earth kingdom and the water tribes. If the fire nation wins the war then everything will be out of balance and the world will never be the same. Granted it does rely mostly on individual characters rather than the grand scope of war, but everytime the fire nation is on the attack it’s either to capture the Avatar, or to take a strategic area like the Northern water tribe or the earth kingdom capital of Ba Sing Se. Now of course there are some things that are unrealistic, like how after Aang strips Ozai of his firebending the war abruptly ends the next day, a hundred years of a stalemate go by but it’s only the last five years is when the Fire nation is on the brink of winning, and of course the entire day of black sun invasion, but in terms of grand scope but yet keeping it realistic, I say Avatar did it well.
@Oxtocoatl13
@Oxtocoatl13 3 жыл бұрын
Avatar also shines in how it depicts the effects of war on the entire society, even those who live in relative safety, like brainwashed fire nation school kids or the police society of Ba Sing Se, or Earth Kingdom villagers who live in fear of the thugs in their kingdom's uniform that terrorize them instead of protecting them.
@vincentthendean7713
@vincentthendean7713 3 жыл бұрын
12:06 I think something similar happened during the 3rd Crusade. Any battle that Richard Lionheart oversaw kept winning. Though the fact that Saladin did enough damage everywhere else and the crusaders became unruly is what caused them to sign the treaty of Jaffa instead of total control.
@eugenebebs7767
@eugenebebs7767 3 жыл бұрын
One more key aspect of war: roads and bridges. From ancient world to modern days, roads play a key role for army maneuvers. Even if you have super agile cavalry/tanks, you can't send supplies through the bog. So war maps, upon closer examination, look a lot more complicated than big arrows pointing towards the enemy. Siege of Bastogne was important because Americans held the crossing of the major roads, which was a huge bottleneck for German advance, even though they held all the territory around the town.
@7OwlsWithALaptop
@7OwlsWithALaptop 3 жыл бұрын
Practical Guide To Evil has _really_ good wars and battles. Especially considering that Magic and Godly powers exist and shift the mechanics of wae dramatically. The auther managed to tie that all into really good wars and battles. Like honestly PGTE checks pretty much all the boxes. Edit: alsoe really fun and creative use if necromancy! Edit2: It's a FREE webnovel so I highly encourage everyone to read it! It's also techically YA since the protagonist starts as a teenager...
@_sky_3123
@_sky_3123 3 жыл бұрын
YEa... except that MC gets "chozen" by the most badass guy to work with him, for no reason whatsoever. It is equivalent to Trum or Putin calling a 16 yearold girl to help them run a country. Plot armor 10/10.
@7OwlsWithALaptop
@7OwlsWithALaptop 3 жыл бұрын
@@_sky_3123 not really, because in Calernia Names rule. And by Namelore and Story Logic teenagers make the most powerfull people. And Black is not only very adept at using Namelore to his advantage, but also probably felt that Cat was on her way to becoming the Squire.
@7OwlsWithALaptop
@7OwlsWithALaptop 3 жыл бұрын
@@_sky_3123 That's why I think that complaints like these make no sense fir PGTE, because the whole setting is about how in that world Stories are real powers that massivly influence the world. So _of course_ there's Plot Armor and _of course_ there are little coincidences all the time. Providence works fir both Heroes and Villains.
@_sky_3123
@_sky_3123 3 жыл бұрын
@@7OwlsWithALaptop You can like the book, have fun with it, etc. But I can't stand such plot bending for the sake of the plot. It is an extremely well-written book, but it gets impaled by splinters of its broken plot.
@7OwlsWithALaptop
@7OwlsWithALaptop 3 жыл бұрын
@@_sky_3123 I really don't see what you mean? The plot seems really tight to me and most things that could be considered things happening just for plot is either Characters intentionally manipulating events with story logic, or Providence from either the Gods Above or Below. So technically there are no coincidences because it's all very clearly affect by in universe forces.
@yemmohater2796
@yemmohater2796 3 жыл бұрын
This couldn't have come out at a better time, I'm just about to start planning a story with battles like these
@harrisonmcarthur7816
@harrisonmcarthur7816 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your novel!
@raphaelsaint-saes6850
@raphaelsaint-saes6850 2 жыл бұрын
Like the battle of Breed's Hill (Bunker Hill), we didn't lose because the enemy killed our infantry, we lost because we ran out of ammunition. We had to surrender.
@conkerfromopako
@conkerfromopako 3 жыл бұрын
An example of wars not being about battles in the modern era: Guerrillas. The point of guerrilla fighting is to destabilize the enemy, be it through attacks or simply by continuing to exist (goverments of any kind have a hard time keeping face while people are raising arms in their territory), create new disgruntled groups and convince them to join forces with them, until the goverment collapses. This is best shown in Mao, who took over an almost completelly defeated army as they fled across China, while convincing group after group to join them (The nationalist goverment constantly antagonized political and ethnical enemies, and it was hard to pretend they were the "true" goverment when many regions had gone through 5 or 6 "goverments" in a decade), finally recovering their strength enough to be able to field a real army (with help from the Soviets of course). Ideally, for the guerrilla side, there can and should be a totally fight-less war.
@Nockgun
@Nockgun 3 ай бұрын
or Taliban.
@billysinge8977
@billysinge8977 3 жыл бұрын
In my world, they have a system of warfare where they build walls parallel to each other between the borders of countries, between which they try and win by sending wave after wave of soldiers to try and capture the part of the wall. It’s like medieval trench warfare but with walls guarded by moats, wooden stakes, razor wire and cannons, and bowmen. The Dark Prince, the childhood best friend of the “chosen one” type mc, is one of the main generals during such a war, and is extremely depressed since he’s sent to this cold wasteland when he knows he’s capable of much more as a general. So for morale purposes, he one time led the assault and his men regained their morale for just one battle, which due to high morale, they won. Idk why I even wrote this, just needed to say something I guess.
@Oxtocoatl13
@Oxtocoatl13 3 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to read a fantasy depiction of the immediate aftermath of a destructive war. Thousands of suddenly unemployed mercenaries, widespread famine, roads clogged by refugees, every participant is neck deep in war debt and the peace process takes forever.
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly few novels even try to give a definite strategy to a battle. It tends just be two armies running at each other. When I was coming up with a war for my own world, I was inspired by the episode of Doctor Who, The Zygon Inversion, to have it end with the heroes creating a Peace Treaty between both armies after one’s high command fell apart and the other’a soldiers started to fall apart. I think creating a war, you’ll need good and multiple threats, because, for instance, in Harry Potter, all they had to do was kill Voldemort, in Percy Jackson, even if they somehow managed to kill Kronos before he arrived at Olympus, they’d still have an entire City of Monsters to kill. Now, neither of these are perfect, it seems in both cases a huge part of the heroes’ strategy was: “Pray you don’t die,” but at least Percy had created a defence plan. A lot of the time, it just seems to be weighted on which of the important characters wins the inevitable duel.
@AnEnemySpy456
@AnEnemySpy456 3 жыл бұрын
Robb Stark actually had a pretty solid plan to force Tywin Lannister into surrender. While Tywin was holed up in Harrenhal, Robb moved into the Westerlands, smashing the Lannister reinforcements being raised at Oxcross and forcing Tywin to ride west to defend his own territory, which would have left him trapped between Robb's host and Edmure's at Riverrun, only Edmure went against his orders to simply hold the castle and engaged Tywin on the Trident which kept him from falling into the trap and giving him the time he needed to come to the relief of King's Landing. If Stannis wins the Battle of the Blackwater, Tywin has no choice but to surrender.
@KTChamberlain
@KTChamberlain 3 жыл бұрын
Historia Civilis does a great job covering wars like Caesar's Gallic Wars and his Civil Wars where he defeated Pompey Magnus, Domitius Ahenobarbus, Ptolemy XIII, King Pharnaces, Scipio Metellus, King Juba, and even his former righthand man Titus Labienus, who fought against Caesar with Pompey and Scipio and only once gave him a bloody nose at Ruspina. Caesar's victory over Vercingetorix is in itself a kickass battle where Caesar outmaneuvered his enemy by building one wall to keep the Gauls in Alesia and another wall to keep the Gallic reinforcements at bay.
@sleepwalkersqueen2420
@sleepwalkersqueen2420 3 жыл бұрын
Omg look at how fu**ing cute this kittens are!!
@eh6280
@eh6280 3 жыл бұрын
attack on titan battle scenes are like god-tier, they're so real for no reason, especially when erwin led the survey corps to certain demise so levi can kill the beast titan because the military morale included in that scene is so terrifyingly realistic for a fictional battle scene.
@thebushwhacker8496
@thebushwhacker8496 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched in forever lol but your underrated
@ricardoaguirre6126
@ricardoaguirre6126 3 жыл бұрын
I've always looked to real battles for inspiration in the stories I want to write.
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 2 жыл бұрын
Its the smart thing to do.
@CountZurich
@CountZurich 3 жыл бұрын
If you haven't, you should read Bernard Cornwell books. Although he's a historical fiction writer rather than fantasy or sci fi (although some books have elements of REALLY low fantasy), his battle scenes are masterfully done. See The Last Kingdom for 9th-10th century Saxons vs Danes, The Warlord Chronicles for 5th-6th century Britons vs Saxons, Sharpe for Napoleonic battles, Grail Quest and Azincourt for Hundred Years War, and Starbuck Chronicles for American Civil War battles.
@TLOK1918
@TLOK1918 3 жыл бұрын
Incoming obligatory "Now that's soldiering!" comments. Be creative, lads!
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 3 жыл бұрын
Bernard Cornwell books = Do not be a civilian there the enemy army are....it will be a very horrible and life-threatening situation.
@johnwotek3816
@johnwotek3816 Жыл бұрын
​@@TLOK1918 Preventing people from making an over used joke for two years. Now that's soldiering.
@BrotherSantodes
@BrotherSantodes 3 жыл бұрын
The main gripe I have with battles is conversations. You have the two main leaders of the army square up in a 1 on 1 duel with each of them giving monologues and nobody interferes. Everyone around them just watches.
@AnEnemySpy456
@AnEnemySpy456 3 жыл бұрын
Specifically calls out the Battle of Helm's Deep as one where the losing side doesn't just run away, even though it ends with the orcs all running away(and then getting slaughtered by the Huorns, but that's beside the point).
@firetarrasque4667
@firetarrasque4667 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can't really fault them for not planning around mobile, murderous trees.
@skyanaugustus3513
@skyanaugustus3513 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah? Well, I 'd like to see you write your own story. Seriously though, I would really like to read your work if you become a writer in the future. Good video. You have definitely highlighted some crucial points.
@miliczhasthoughts
@miliczhasthoughts 3 жыл бұрын
watched the first 30 seconds and then realized I didn't catch a single word because i was too distracted by the kittens
@edwinbrown7179
@edwinbrown7179 3 жыл бұрын
Bernard Cornwell writes battles really well even the relatively smaller battles in The Winter King are gripping and he actually pays attention to tactics morale and psychology.
@tesnacloud
@tesnacloud 3 жыл бұрын
8:20 There are many examples of foot soldiers defeating horse archers, but it was difficult. Horse archers had major advantages and were capable of some stunning feats of military prowess. The key was to harden your supply lines, have good foot missile troops or excellent protection from arrows, and then wear the horse archers down in attritional warfare. Often, taking and holding objectives the horse archers can't afford to let you have is key. Also, take the Horse archers supplies, since those are crucial for any army.
@PsychShrew
@PsychShrew 3 жыл бұрын
1:03 Reminds me of a video I literally just watched about the Battle of Ilerda! Caesar lost the actual combat but was able to secure better positions and supply lines, allowing him to win.
@thezipcreator
@thezipcreator 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9aJodR-086cdKc.html this one?
@adambebb99
@adambebb99 3 жыл бұрын
@@thezipcreator greetings fellow Historia civilis viewer
@DJRonnieG
@DJRonnieG 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about the scifi book that I'm currently reading ('Thunder and Lightning' by Christopher G. Nuttall and Leo Champion) is the amount of characters that are fleshed-out just long enough to kill them. There are a few persistent characters, but the story is constantly cycling between locations. Where different things are being done to deal with the common-threat. It certainly isn't hero porn so far, but that still stands to be determined. Well, there are a few heroes in the book but they're heroic because they die quickly.
@makbones3481
@makbones3481 Жыл бұрын
9:23 I love the analogy you used here.
@OddlyAnimated1203
@OddlyAnimated1203 Жыл бұрын
I have never written any war story before, but funnily enough I didn't make the mistakes you mentioned at the start somehow and researched a little to find I even did some things write. Alright, there is this "dark lord" thing in my story who wants to take over the world mainly because he's bored and can because he's OP and he actually has some brain. He doesn't try to take over the world at once but rather bit by bit (although doesn't ger far). He does have an army which he would've manipulated if they didn't know he was bad but well now he has to make them work by fear. He has strategies in battle; he even manupulates the government into thinking he's on their side (the government sucks as well actually). The characters fight his army of course and then eventually him. Yes, they also have powers. Things change when the main character meets, and then falls in love with, no, not the villain, but rather one of his prisoners, who, it turns out, is the only way to end his journey. She decides not to kill the prisoner but find another way to kill the villain and then right after the wars begin, she lives to regret her life as everything goes hell: she experiences the brutals and horrors of war. She sees everyone die and blames at herself, eventually breaking down mentally and deciding to do something she could've done at first, but now rather having to do it a harder way since the prisoner was captured yet again and now they'll have to somehow get him back and kill him with even tightier security and condition. The story includes sadness, action, mystery, plot twists, regret, excitement, chaos, etc., etc., but it doesn't include something from its predecessor: the vibe it gave from the original story I made, from where it all began. I am doing everything I can to make it as realistic as possible, and even more so interesting, while trying to keep the same vibe and feel from the OG. If you've read all this, for whatever reason, thank you! I appreciate it.
@JeffreyGonell
@JeffreyGonell 3 жыл бұрын
You are the BEST, James!!
@vanillaboy4514
@vanillaboy4514 Жыл бұрын
An example of really good war writing in fiction is Kingdom. It's a manga, within the historical fiction genre, about the wars that would unify Ancient China under the Qin Dynasty, following a soldier as he rises through the ranks to become a Great General.
@ZooTycoonPunk
@ZooTycoonPunk 3 жыл бұрын
Fantasy and sci-fi needs more battles like the Battle of Karánsebes .
@samerm8657
@samerm8657 3 жыл бұрын
This guy just dumped one hell of knowledge piece in front of us! I've always known you know stories, man, but never knew about your inner Cao Cao. Also, this is just in time for a story that I have brewing in my mind, that you've earned a new patron 🙏🎉
@volodymyrboitchouk
@volodymyrboitchouk 3 жыл бұрын
You actually got the record of stepp horse archers wrong. While in open battles with good leadership stepp armies tended to win by a wide margin, most of the time settled societies with experience fighting stepp peoples won. Typically this was done through specializing the army for facing stepp tribes. The Chinese and the Rus had the most experience here and arrived at very similar answers. Foot archers, with protection, will typically defeat horse archers because they can equip larger bows and take up less space. Disciplined pike or spear infantry backed by an equivalent number of archers and/or crossbowmen. This would be paired with a massive force of heavy, light and medium cavalry so that you have enough mobility to keep up with the stepp armies. The stepp armies biggest advantage over most enemies is operational. Stepp peoples can travel anywhere and need no supply lines, so they can appear anywhere and everywhere at a moment's notice. The advantage of settled societies is in more advanced technology and greater capacity to levy force. Settled societies have throughout the centuries learned to utilize their advantages in ways that can overcome the advantages of stepp peoples.
@josephdellavecchia7828
@josephdellavecchia7828 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video, William "Crispy Dixie" Sherman bit was worth the price of admission alone.
@etienneleroi9515
@etienneleroi9515 8 ай бұрын
I believe that, at least in the book (and maybe in the Two Towers theatrical cut), the orcs retreated after Gandalf and the riders arrived, and 5,000-or about half of them-survived
@matthewlee8667
@matthewlee8667 3 жыл бұрын
William "Crispy Dixie" Sherman was the predecessor to Arthur "Ignite the Reich" Harris
@JamesTullos
@JamesTullos 3 жыл бұрын
William "Annihilate Atlanta" Sherman William "You Rebel you get Hell" Sherman William "Keep their chains and get the Flames" Sherman William "Club the Railroad Hub" Sherman William "Protect the Plantation Prepare for Cremation" Sherman William "Traitor Incinerator" Sherman vs. Arthur "Take out the Krauts" Harris Arthur "Burn Berlin" Harris Arthur "Flatten Frankfurt" Harris Arthur "Doomsday of Dresden" Harris Arthur "Hammer Hamburg" Harris Arthur "Rule Brittania" Harris Arthur "Knightly Raids" Harris
@matthewlee8667
@matthewlee8667 3 жыл бұрын
@Wind Rose yes and no, the bombing of cities can demoralize soldiers and civilians to a certain extent but they do not ultimately win the war. It depends on the response of leadership to the threat of collateral damage, whether they will continue to fight or surrender. In places such as Holland, which had little chance to resist the German invasion, the threat of bombardment was enough to make them sign a peace agreement, (though the Germans bombed Rotterdam regardless). In Japan, the psychological effect of the nuclear bombings was a part of the reason why they surrendered though the Soviet entrance into the war was debatably a bigger reason why they surrendered. On the other hand, the governments of Britain and Germany, in the face of bombardment, dug their heels in, using the bombings as propaganda to galvanize their populations into continuing the fight. But it would be fair to say they were not as effective as they hoped. That said, it should be noted that the "Blitz Spirit" was a little bit of a myth that was encouraged by the government and has taken on a legendary status after the war, but the truth is more complicated. There was a certain amount of discontentment and demoralization of the public insofar as the bombings and blackouts created an environment for crimes such as looting to flourish and forced people to send their children to the countryside for safety among other things. While attitudes of perseverance in the face of bombing existed, the truth is more mundane and complicated than the common narrative would suggest. But it is true that the bombing of Britain and Germany in and of themselves was not enough to make them capitulate. Area bombing was employed because it was thought to be more effective than precision bombing which was not as accurate as it is now. On this topic opinions are divided on how effective area bombing was for hampering the war effort. Let's use Dresden as the example given that we're talking about Arthur Harris. While Dresden was a civilian centre it was also a major military hub, being the primary supply route for Army Group Centre on the Eastern Front. A lot of troops and material were being sent East through the railway network there. In this sense, people argue that Dresden was a justified target. I don't know where the factories or military hubs were in relation to everywhere else, but it was probably thought that area bombing would at least destroy some of them. However, other would counter that said military targets were either wholly missed by the bombardment or they were never targeted to begin with, making the bombing a wasted effort that did not greatly hinder the German war effort. I don't know which narrative is more correct but both sides have some merit to their claims. Now whether or not the bombings carried out by Britain were primarily of military value or meant to demoralize Germany is up for debate as well. While they did target cities full of civilians the question is whether or not civilians were treated as the primary targets or as collateral. The Germans for their part certainly did conduct terror bombings in an attempt to demoralize the enemy. In the case of Stalingrad this proved to be a tactical blunder because the resulting rubble made the land battle more difficult. One part of bombing that is often overlooked is how they are used for one country's own morale. During WWII and today, bombings are usually used to raise support for the war effort by demonstrating a country's power and will to fight. This is one reason why American presidents routinely order strategic strikes on a few targets in the Middle East every so often, and why England attacked Berlin as a response to the Blitz and why the Doolittle Raid on Tokyo occurred after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Neither of these examples actually did much to hinder the enemy war effort but they were crucial to raising public support for the war. But the great irony of a bombing such as what happened in Dresden is that it actually served as a problem in Britain because casualty figures (which were inflated by Nazi propaganda at the time as well as emphasizing Dresden's cultural significance) led to public opinion for civilian bombings less than confident. In England as well as elsewhere questions as to the effectiveness of bombing cities and area bombing came into question, the debate that continues on to this day. So in a sense the bombing of Dresden may be viewed as a justifiable target but it was a loss for British morale during the war.
@satenmadpun
@satenmadpun 3 жыл бұрын
So, you acknowledge that the Husky is the best dog breed 😔
@emiledlund9559
@emiledlund9559 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say that a good way to simulate fantasy battles might be to run a equivalent battle through Total war: Warhammer. Select the equivalent factions and units and have them fight
@oscarwind4266
@oscarwind4266 Жыл бұрын
Damn you James. I have to watch this video twice because I was too busy watching the kittens the first time.
@theguyfromsaturn
@theguyfromsaturn 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite war sci-fi is the Honorverse. I love the world building in general in that series. Battle are realistic, tactics and strategy are well thought out. The tactics are predicated on the available technology and its limitations. The political situation is realistic, in general. And cultures and political systems have had some thought put into them.
@lizabethhampton4537
@lizabethhampton4537 3 жыл бұрын
All I could think about for the last third was "William 'Crispy Dixie' Sherman"
@isabellasevillaaguilera9679
@isabellasevillaaguilera9679 3 жыл бұрын
Truth be told the most interesting parts of war are the overly convoluted ones idk Edit: Someone edit James’ Face into the cats. Oscar 2020
@tauempire1793
@tauempire1793 3 жыл бұрын
In defense of lord of the rings film. Certain battles such as the siege between the Orcs and Rohirrim (Rohan) where battles where you couldn't really escape or run. If it was a pitched battle or a place where people can escape the battle from then perhaps that would make sense but in that siege in the film it's highly unlikely anyone can escape with their lives.
@mollof7893
@mollof7893 3 жыл бұрын
My story idea was two nation that declair war on a third nation for harrsing their trade routs because the third nation has little resources themself. With this video I can make something that is somewhat decent maybe.
@btCharlie_
@btCharlie_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm aware you provided very little and there's probably more to it, but definitely consider the motivations of the third nation - if they don't have resources themselves, is it worth it risking an open conflict with _two_ enemies at once? What was their strategy to deal with it if it would happen? Did they lose their resources suddenly (like Japan in WW2) or have they struggled for a while? Would it be possible to turn the first two against each other? Or to secure an alliance with one of them prior? From the minimalist info you gave, the third nation sounds to either be desperate and risks the open war (which it will most probably lose given their lack of resources), or they have something impactful up their sleeve, or their leaders are just stupid (e.g. like a very new young king). If neither is true (or there's a reasonable option I missed), it might not be very convincing.
@clydoscope5841
@clydoscope5841 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I was about to watch the video because I have no idea how, and just as I was about to watch, I eventually had an idea!!!
@neobrala5237
@neobrala5237 3 жыл бұрын
Came for the wars- Stayed for the kittens & doggos.
@twistedwell9568
@twistedwell9568 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a masterpiece
@stekra3159
@stekra3159 3 жыл бұрын
The justkstopsition of Milieerly Logistics and Citens is jaring
@christiankalk4668
@christiankalk4668 3 жыл бұрын
The trope of the enemy armies collapsing when the leader is killed may not be realistic, but it's great for dramatic tension...it allows the Good Guys to be at the brink of annihilation, but then manage to win just as everything seems hopeless. Winning a protracted campaign through superior equipment, training,, and tactics doesn't keep you on the edge of your seat past the first couple pivotal battles.
@cyan3714
@cyan3714 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously agree with every point you make but a wish you brought more examples
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm 3 жыл бұрын
About the defenders having the advantage, there is one situation that it can be different, when you have to defend a large line, you might have to disperse your troops, in this case, the attacker has the advantage of being able to concentrate it's forces. Also, the defence must be always woken up, and the attacker only at the moment they decide.
@viggisdestructionemporium5283
@viggisdestructionemporium5283 3 жыл бұрын
15:18 Operation: Daisy Farms, capture the ice cream barge
@terrence4605
@terrence4605 3 жыл бұрын
'They surrendered 5 months later... eat shit dixie boys.' Im dying.
@adrianinha19
@adrianinha19 3 жыл бұрын
This was super interesting! Guess I gotta look more into war history so I can write my own fictional wars better
@Kaffeeteria
@Kaffeeteria 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!!!! Gave me lots of cool new ideas. :)
@DarkPrject
@DarkPrject 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good advice. Loving the animal footage.
@lesteryaytrippy7282
@lesteryaytrippy7282 3 жыл бұрын
Video topic: writing wars Visuals: cute animals Thank you for pushing through despite demonitizing.
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 3 жыл бұрын
"Watching someone sit in a trench for 6hrs before poking their head up and getting shot by a sniper" sounds like a description of Blackadder goes forth, which was entertaining thank you very much.
@nabilamiah3814
@nabilamiah3814 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Love the puppies and kittens.
@cherrymills9337
@cherrymills9337 3 жыл бұрын
Loved, loved, loved the kittens and dogs. Oh, also loved this tutorial.
@thealliedpowers
@thealliedpowers 3 жыл бұрын
i had help from a discord server jam-packed with quasi military experts and im gonna share some advice on how to develop your military doctrine in a modern setting 1. economy, population, geography take how much money your nation makes and allocate a portion of it into the total military budget. most nations rarely spend more than 2% of their earnings on military. then take a portion of your population then put them in the military and divide them up between branches then take a look at your nation's geography and nearby allies and enemies okay basically just keep narrowing it down. divide up the military budget between branches and the military population between branches. remember that the majority of military personnel are non-combat or reserve. now take a close look at your geography and decide how the military is going to fight. maybe they're an island chain that requires a strong naval force and good amphibious capability. maybe they're in open plains and need heavy armor that can take hits, etc. etc. take into consideration allied powers, manpower, if this nation is defensive or aggressive etc etc and that's basically a hyper condensed guide in making military doctrine
@cathalhughes5996
@cathalhughes5996 3 жыл бұрын
9:20, you also forgot to mention that's basically napoleonic history in a nutshell, he wins all these massive battles against all odds crush the morale of countless armies but in the end still lost the war.
@ZS-dr7bi
@ZS-dr7bi 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar convinced me, mayhap I'll check campfire out.
@georgewashington7083
@georgewashington7083 3 жыл бұрын
Ranger's Apprentice does a great job of this in book 4
@narenkarthikeyan2429
@narenkarthikeyan2429 3 жыл бұрын
“Big displays of power” *Cuts to kitten sleeping*
@A-Forty3707
@A-Forty3707 3 жыл бұрын
Hey you stole my wife No it's mine And that's how you write an epic war that will get historians turn on 2000 years in the future
@robinsprung207
@robinsprung207 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! (Funny coincidence btw. I posted yesterday a video on my channel about the exact same topic)
@phairecouchpotato3912
@phairecouchpotato3912 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!
@decanusseverus8773
@decanusseverus8773 3 жыл бұрын
Dog said “dude I already told you, I’m saying the stupid line”
@GateCaptain
@GateCaptain 6 ай бұрын
I've always seen the whole '1 on 1' fighting part of movies and TV shows as a bit of a mixed bag. Yes, historically you would want your men to fight in formation because that is where your forces are at their strongest and in almost every instance that's what would happen. But from what I've been able to piece together it seems like as a battle drags on the fighters become exhausted, morale will decline, formations break down, weapons and armor get damaged and worn down. As this happens one side will eventually break and run, or you get into what I've heard described as the 'bad war', this is where you find something more akin to two mobs bashing at one another, the loss of cohesion has broken down the formation, their spears have been broken or become dull from use, or the distance between the two forces has simply closed too much for either side to really fight effectively. This is where you see men fighting with swords or axes and maces. It's rare, but it did happen; and it wasn't as much of a jumbled mess as you would see on the screen. The only other instance where I have seen these sorts of fights would be with Cavalry, who are usually on the edge of the fight and rely upon speed and maneuverability. Couple this with the typically more professional or higher status combatants and you can see instances of not so much honorable duels, but two fighters singling each other out in the melee.
@maddie_97
@maddie_97 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched many of your videos and I've enjoyed your analyses and break-downs. I highly recommend you watch Attack on Titan and make an analysis on its representatation of war and battles (or governments, or world building or character development, there's so much good stuff there). Many arguments you make in your videos remind me of the above mentioned anime so much! Would love to see your take on this! Thank you for your content ❤️ Edit: Grammar
@JWS_1
@JWS_1 11 ай бұрын
Two more examples of generals who won battles but lost wars: Heinz Guderian and Erwin Rommel in World War II.
@guyofminimalimportance7
@guyofminimalimportance7 3 жыл бұрын
4:21 I don't mean to be "that guy", but isn't that exactly what happens in the film version of the battle of Helm's Deep? Gandalf arrives with Human reinforcements, they start flanking the orcs, and not long after the Orcs panic and flee. Sure; they all die in the forest in the extended edition, but by then they had already lost; the battle had already ended in a retreat.
@sunder9363
@sunder9363 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, but I guess we don't talk about that...or maybe he was only referencing the books (which I never read)
@guyofminimalimportance7
@guyofminimalimportance7 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunder9363 He said he was talking about battles in film...
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 3 жыл бұрын
He was possibly referring to Theodan's charge. In both book and film, the defenders of Helm's Deep are basically defeated before Gandalf arrives. While they recall that Gandalf said to look for him on that morning, they fully expect to die when they leave the caves to fight the orc horde.
@guyofminimalimportance7
@guyofminimalimportance7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kartissa That does imply one side was willing to fight to annihilation, but even then it doesn't. He claims that the battle itself ends in annihilation, which it also didn't.
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 3 жыл бұрын
​@@guyofminimalimportance7 Actually, when talking about movie battles, he says: "No-one ever seems to cut their losses and surrender, or run away." The Rohirrim certainly don't do either, and while the orcs eventually break and flee, that only happens after the bright morning sun shining into the orcs' eyes has blinded them, and broken their formation. Very few orcs survive the battle, and subsequent venture into the new forest of Huorns that Gandalf brought with him (which *is* in the extended edition, so it happened as in the book). If that's not annihilation, I don't know what is. (It's worth noting that in the book, the orc host had Dunlending allies, who *did* surrender, despite being told that they would be burned alive if captured, and were granted amnesty. I'm not sure if they were in the movies at all - I don't remember anything other than orcs in the invading army, but it's been a while since I watched the movie.)
@josxxiv
@josxxiv 3 жыл бұрын
I think I speak for the entire internet when I say we want more Oscar cameos
@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798
@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798 3 жыл бұрын
One point I'd like to make is that from Roman military to modern day militaries, the role of every specific type of soldiers may vary a lot. If we talk about Romans, a Leves, a Legionary, an Auxiliari or an Equite, are quite different and serve a different purpose, both tactically and strategically. If we talk about medieval armies, archers, knights, crossbowmen, balestras, halberdiers, men-at-arms or levies, all serve different purposes and have varying degrees of training. Modern day militaries follow the same tendency too, not all armies are just swordmen, and not all swordmen serve the same purposes.
@renewalacumen1770
@renewalacumen1770 8 ай бұрын
12:29 Oh, that was dirty!
@gaiusjuliuspleaser
@gaiusjuliuspleaser 3 жыл бұрын
Vis-a-vis armies never running away or giving up: I believe at Helm's Deep, much of the Uruk army attempts to flee into the forest when Gandalf and Erkenbrand arrive, while the Dunlendings surrendered. Except it's not a forest but the Huorns, who presumably destroy the Uruks. Similarly at Pelennor fields, many Orcs attempt to flee after the Rohirrim turn the tide only to be run down and killed. Only the Easterlings and a few others actually fought to the death. And the loss of a few thousand Orcs wasn't a significant blow to Sauron anyway. What truly hurt him was losing some of his top lieutenants like the Witch-King and Gothmog.
@laureate90
@laureate90 3 жыл бұрын
Really good video, very well researched from what I can tell. Have saved it for future reference when writing :)
@TheGutsCasualGamer
@TheGutsCasualGamer 9 күн бұрын
Best 21 minutes of my life
@allayasalienart8644
@allayasalienart8644 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! this reminds me of when Germany tried to invade Switzerland. The Swiss had bombs on all the roads leading in and out of the country, and when the Germans came they just blew the roads.
@RBEmpathy
@RBEmpathy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm writing a series of fantasy novels and it's pre-medieval times, and I accidentally made my first battle realistic, according to these metrics. Lmao
@omarbaba9892
@omarbaba9892 Жыл бұрын
In the Star Wars tv shows we do see a lot of retreats
@TheKproductionsful
@TheKproductionsful 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I eventually want to fight large scale infantry combat!
@HowToPnP
@HowToPnP 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Modern military is around the same percentage of the population, as is has been in ancient times: ~1% Ignoring outliers (like the Vatican) most countries have a combined percentage of police and military of below 1%: Germany has ~0.2% soldiers and ~0,4% police, the USA has ~ 0,5% soldiers and ~0,2 police, and so on. Ancient Rome had a military of between 0,5% and 0,75% of their population as soldiers. And medieval armies range anywhere from 0,3% to 2% (the sources vary extremely here). The things that really changed are better transports and better tech in general.
@dairebulson7122
@dairebulson7122 11 ай бұрын
On one hand, while I do love complicated worlds with many factions and moving parts, a lot of writers who attempt to write that, end up in a situation where they leave loose ends (certain factions and leaders are left out of satisfactory resolution), or are given an anti-climatic ignomious end to what originally seemed like an important faction/leader, because they couldn't fit them into the resolution. (Maybe the writer forgot about them for a good chunk of the story, or maybe the author added new elements/altered the course of the plot along the way.) Obviously, this affects stories that are written as a series, as the story may change over time, and the author can't go back and edit past works to make them more consistent with later elements in the story. And also stories that are written my a group of writers, as everyone may not have a complete idea of what everyone else is thinking or intending, and some writers may even leave during the course of the production.
@Nassit-Gnuoy
@Nassit-Gnuoy 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of this changes when you throw superpowers and other stuff in.
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm 3 жыл бұрын
Related to this, there is a series of books that I read years ago that I think represents that idea quite well. The first book is called "Tomorrow , When the War Began". It's about a bunch of teenagers that went camping and when they come back their country (Australia) is being invaded by some other country. I'm curious of how would you review this series.
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