How Toyota became F1's most expensive failure
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4 жыл бұрынToyota spent eye-watering amounts of money on Formula 1 in the 2000s, yet when it walked away at the end of 2009 it had three pole positions and no victories to show for a decade of huge effort and investment. In this video we look at the reasons Toyota's approach to F1 failed, what it could have done differently, and the missed opportunities that could have saved the team in its final season. What did you make of Toyota's eight years in F1? Let us know in the comments!
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@christoforospaphitis4090 4 жыл бұрын
They pulled out when they had their chance much like Honda, in F1 experience is key to success
@DJUwU 4 жыл бұрын
I blame a combination of FIA's failure in making things exciting/banning too much technology....and Toyota caring about corporate profits more than racing results. F1 is a dying sport by profit margins and audience retainership. Also Toyota makes No 1 or No 2 in overall automobile corporation profits...I highly doubt they would want to keep throwing money into the money pit...only to be a mid tier F1 team. ie...just look at Toyota today...all their sports cars are developed by Subaru, BMW, and LeMan performance race team that have nothing to do with actual corporate Toyota. Just a shell of a name.
@hangingchad_ 4 жыл бұрын
At least Honda are back, and hopefully will be giving Red Bull a real chance to win the championship (that's optimistic, I know). It's nice to see that Honda is still going for it. At least they're back in the sport and building some fantastic engines. I doubt Toyota would pull off the same success, unfortunately.
@ArthurZakaryan23 4 жыл бұрын
@@DJUwU Factory racing whether it's F1 or another series is proving to be fruitless for many OEMs. One only has to look at the current landscape of the world's racing series to see that. Audi and Porsche pulled out of LeMans LMP1 program, same with Peugeot, leaving only Toyota for the last few years but no telling post COVID if they'll continue. LMP2 is full of privateer teams and large OEMs are mostly in GT3 but thought I read Porsche will be closing their GT racing operations this year as well. DTM is also a former shell of its once self with BMW pulling out, same with Audi, not sure if MB is still in it. WRC racing isn't quite F1 expensive but not much cheaper than operating an LMP1 program so that's also seen departures by large car makers the last several years. Now carmakers are hedging their bets on supporting full eRacing teams, some going the electric racing alternatives to F1.
@turognlz1447 4 жыл бұрын
@@hangingchad_ I guess what you say about Honda is a joke. With all the money in the world, it took 5 years to make a decent engine. In addition to destroying a team like Mclaren and two drivers like Jenson and Fernando. A very expensive and above all very painful bill to end up winning two races in the chassis of a Red Bull. As an amateur I will never forgive the Japanese
@levigriffiths6942 4 жыл бұрын
@@turognlz1447 think he was talking about Honda as a team and not an engine supplier, the Brawn was pretty much just a rebadged Honda
@paolog.spinato7869 4 жыл бұрын
In this F1 Hybrid era, Toyota could have been one of the best teams on the grid.
@S1L3NTK1LL3R51 4 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% it would be good to see them in f1
@AbrahamArthemius 4 жыл бұрын
At the very least as a PU supplier
@iceman1125 4 жыл бұрын
yeah honda is doing so well in f1
@arthursmith9767 4 жыл бұрын
Yh maybe
@aayushkarnik7166 4 жыл бұрын
In this F1 Hybrid era, Minardi could have been one of the best teams on the grid. See how easy it is
@mrdraw2087 4 жыл бұрын
Their final season was really weird. A few weeks after their Bahrain front-row lock-out, they were dead last in Monaco. At the end of the season they finally got their act together. Belgium was a missed opportunity, even though Trulli failed to even pass Badoer in the race... The Toyota engine was lacking some power in 2009, which was perhaps a contributing factor as to why they failed to win a race that season. They were fast, but just not fast enough in Singapore and Japan. The last missed opportunity was Brazil, where Trulli clumsily ran into Sutil on the opening lap. He was very mad with Sutil after the accident, which was kinda funny.
@davidorama6690 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame Toyota didn’t work out. Hopefully with the budget caps Toyota could return as Honda has.
@deeznoots6241 4 жыл бұрын
david orama budget wasn’t the problem for Toyota though
@joe718gt4 4 жыл бұрын
They probably would have to quit their WEC program for this to happen
@mk.s4023 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna happen as long as Akio Toyoda is on his chair.
@DJUwU 4 жыл бұрын
FIA has some serious corruption. Its a shame that F1 has been killed off by FIA's incompetence. Toyoda and Honda made the right decision....their companies are actually still making money even in this crisis.
@djoetma 4 жыл бұрын
@@mk.s4023 Why not? Did he say anything about this? I mean, he did say that he wanted to work on the image of Toyota and introduce more sporty models. Doesn't F1 fit perfectly in this?
@oliverfabian358 4 жыл бұрын
They clearly underestimated how long it takes to be successful in F1, Honda semmingly made the same mistake when they reentered the sport with McLaren (though that one was probably more McLaren's fault than Honda's). Toyota was about to make it in F1 and as others said they really could've dominated the hybrid era since they are one of the manufacturers with the most experience in that department.
@CalvinDBlair 4 жыл бұрын
Yea their LMP1 car is a straight beast
@Cynderfan35 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalvinDBlair and that LMP1 car took while to become a winner. lot of polishing but when all things came together, it won. the fact when they made debut at Le Mans, they showed potential but couldn't compete against more reliable Audi (if i remember correctly).
@Ihaveanamenowtaken 4 жыл бұрын
It's because Honda were too eager to follow McLaren's specifications of engine size. Red Bull gave them creative freedom and they delivered.
@djoetma 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cynderfan35 They were competitive in the Porsche and Audi era as well. Even won the WEC championship in 2014 I think. And Le Mans they lost twice due to freak reasons.
@TassieLorenzo 4 жыл бұрын
@@djoetma Level of competition at Le Mans, even with Porsche, Audi and Peugeot, is still much lower than level of competition in Formula One, sadly.
@patrickracer43 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, the main problem with a lot of works teams that failed in F1 (Ford, BMW, Toyota) was corporate not letting the team do its job
@SolidSonicTH 10 күн бұрын
As I understand it Ford was kind of the opposite. They were divested from the team and had no focus on putting any energy into making smart moves to keep the team viable. Their management never had any real communication with the team's major figures so they just shuffled things around and never settled on a good strategy.
@karacop78 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, Toyota F1 will be remembered: "Is that Glock?"
@hafizyunus4695 4 жыл бұрын
but not for good. isn the whole quote: 'is that Glock going slowly?'
@kevenlad7409 3 жыл бұрын
Hafiz Yunus IT IS OH MY GOODNESS ME
@2555Edu 3 жыл бұрын
Sad brazilian noises here :'(
@karacop78 3 жыл бұрын
@@2555Edu I wasn't happy either
@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 3 жыл бұрын
most hated man in history
@pelson2604 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota: The most expensive failure Hybrid era Renault: Hold my Cabernet
@nic_the_grekk0262 4 жыл бұрын
Hold my bagguett
@333mystic 4 жыл бұрын
Honda by far have spent the most and with the least success. Google engine components used by a season and see even Mercedes have failures, it is just that RedBull were a PR nightmare which is why Honda gave them free engines, to make sure they do not complain publicly.
@samgreen5517 4 жыл бұрын
@@333mystic well they gave McLaren free engines and offered Williams the same. I think Redbull were less of a nightmare than mclaren
@justaname9544 4 жыл бұрын
@@samgreen5517 Adding to that, McLaren were complaining that their aero were great and the Honda engine slowed them down. Then 2018 arrived with a slap on McLaren's face
@tegarsatriyo486 4 жыл бұрын
Renault engine has the worst reliability in the last 2 season
@whassupg89 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea they were going to use a V12.
@archerhowlin4970 4 жыл бұрын
But you know who forced that cork back in the bottle hint hint it ryhmes with fuderea betari
@550LMS 4 жыл бұрын
@@archerhowlin4970 Not true, Ferrari was also developing a V12 engine at this time. Schumachers' driving style meant he could use the torque of the V12 better to rotate the car. During it's (early) development the FIA banned the V12 so they continued on the V10.
@joe718gt4 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe their Toyota Century experience was a part of it
@davidp.7620 4 жыл бұрын
Vettel approves
@User-nu6km 4 жыл бұрын
@@550LMS a lot of teams were developing V12s at the time.
@oscarshen6855 4 жыл бұрын
They tried to be too Japaness in their early years when F1 was clearly a European sport. And just like Honda, they pulled out at the brink of succese because of lacking patience. We don't know how 2010 TOYOTA will perform, but what we know is if Honda continuted in 2009, they would win the title, the history could be very different. There will never be a Mecedes team.
@swagnone619 4 жыл бұрын
Mercs would 100% have a team no matter if Honda stayed. They would have just bought out Sauber or one of the other smaller teams.
@archpradubsuk329 4 жыл бұрын
There was Financial crisis in 2007-2009 that why Honda and Toyota left because F1 is too expensive but when situation got better Honda returned to F1 while Toyota focus on WEC
@jamiealder-martin9994 4 жыл бұрын
That brawn chassis was good but with a Honda engine it wouldn’t of won the championship the merc engine made it as quick as it was
@ioan1545 4 жыл бұрын
Brawn switching to the Mercedes engine was a key part of winning in 2009. Honda’s engine was still a problem
@miroslavdockal9468 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamiealder-martin9994, it wasnt Brawn chassis, it was one of four concepts which Honda prepared for 09 season. But what was winning factor, that Mercedes engine.
@jamiealder-martin9994 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the 2010-13 grid with Toyota and bmw instead of hrt and virgin
@redbullsauberpetronas 3 жыл бұрын
If BMW stayed they would be Sauber
@HeavyMetalGamingHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@redbullsauberpetronas the other way round. sauber would be bmw, because bmw owned sauber.
@redbullsauberpetronas 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD you don't seem to understand what I meant, he said BMW and Toyota replacing hrt and virgin, if BMW stayed hrt or virgin wouldn't be replaced
@nopomegranates1876 4 жыл бұрын
Mom: Giga Toyota isn't real, it can't hurt you 10:45
@nic_the_grekk0262 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that kubica drove a toyota
@aslamnurfikri7640 4 жыл бұрын
That belongs to formulagodcomments
@matekurucz3420 4 жыл бұрын
gigakubi
@insertname8889 4 жыл бұрын
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@MrCatseyes01 4 жыл бұрын
What's a mom? some kind of monkey?
@crazylousy 4 жыл бұрын
came in wrong time and exit wrong time.. so sad
@Kurosaka 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@_SpamMe 4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly there was always talk about their wind tunnel in Cologne not working properly; or delivering numbers that didn't correlate well with what they experienced on track. And it took them years to fix that issue. That seems like one of the most fundamental issue with the project - you gotta fix something like that immediately.
@eddietat95 4 жыл бұрын
They were very cunty according to Mika Salo's book. Always blaming the driver rather than the car or team. They also refused to pay for some basic amenities (i.e. plane tickets to the track, hot dog and chips money). They were, however, very efficient in terms of accounting and marketing.
@graemes8187 4 жыл бұрын
That's the general Japanese work culture - but in this case Toyota saw F1 as marketing - nothing more. The head office obviously had no interest in F1 as a sport. To a company that big, the entire net worth of the sport was probably less than their Camry parts budget.
@ArnoldTriyudho 4 жыл бұрын
That's happened before Morizo came..??
@basiliodamacio1224 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh imagine not having enough to pay for a hot dog and chips
@kirill4524 4 жыл бұрын
2:50 Racing Point has entered the chat
@singaporeghostclub 2 жыл бұрын
I vouched for them and Jarno Trulli for 7 years. The crew shirt that I bought will always remind me of the years I supported them. ✊🏽
@MikuFan3931 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the Toyota team in the sport. But it’s a shame to see them go that way.
@ShineStreet 4 жыл бұрын
We're talking about F1 here though.
@Nemoticon 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Grudt You casual
@MikuFan3931 4 жыл бұрын
zulfikangga* I was talking about the F1. Not the other motorsports.
@cra_55 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Toyota joined F1 now with the momentum from WEC
@TheEryk03 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota won in WEC only when rest of the competitors leave the series lol If they would be so competitive in F1 then thwy would win sh!t
@alvinchan7746 4 жыл бұрын
@Joel Schembri they could adapt their experience of the 2.6L V6 into a 1.6L one. then again, open wheel aero is completely different to close wheel...
@thehauba 4 жыл бұрын
They would have to have no competition at all in order to win anything. When Porsche and Audi were in WEC they had no chance at LM.
@gamefan56 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehauba True but to be fair they stil had decent result here and there like the Lmp1 title in 2014 while Audi was still there and Porsche had just joined.
@arnaudj.5314 4 жыл бұрын
*It's not the same, it's like coming from WRC to F1*
@RandomGuy-dw7hf 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered why they never had the real Toyota logo on their F1 cars
@unknownuser30 4 жыл бұрын
Random Guy they haded actually in 2008 for a short period of time but then they took it out because they tonight that Toyota F1 should’ve had another logo
@unknownuser30 4 жыл бұрын
Thought*
@m.hmalik8520 3 жыл бұрын
Its because the oval logo you see on Toyota road cars is for the Toyota Brand, Toyota didn't want to represent their brand driving as an F1 team just like for their Lexus brand Toyota uses different logo, so same for the F1 team they decided to use a different logo. And the logo for the Toyota F1 team was designed in Japan by one of the employee at Toyota Motor Company.
@Fujiwara.Takumi1 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota tried so hard to beat Ferrari that they became like them. The Ferrari's Culture and Toyota's was exactly the same. Higher management doesn't admit their problems and blames the technical director/team principle. The car evidently lacking but they blame it on the drivers. Everything wrong with Ferrari is everything wrong with toyota. The only difference was that Ferrari had the F1 Heritage and political advantages.
@rmiah 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly LMAO. the only times when Ferrari have shined anyways is when the stars aligned and they happened to have the perfect team. Right before axing them. Happened to Lauda, Prost, Schumacher, the core that made Schumacher so successful, and Toyota did the same exact thing right when they were on the cusp of success. Also strikingly similar was their stubbornness to pursue aerodynamics, just as Ferrari until Brawn and Co., and even still now.
@angelalexs 4 жыл бұрын
couldn't say it better
@lucamante1106 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important difference which is that ferrari is an actual winning team
@koneksilemot9049 4 жыл бұрын
holy shit, this is accurate as fuck. boomer mindset and culture at its finest. slow, lag, refuse to anything new, stiff.
@LuisTrey 4 жыл бұрын
Luca Mante Not anymore.
@Channy132 4 жыл бұрын
They had the coolest livery though so there's that
@das_sound_machine 4 жыл бұрын
STEAL THEIR LIVERY
@1greenMitsi 4 жыл бұрын
yeah that Toyota-Panasonic-Denso is iconic
@bullracing1 4 жыл бұрын
Also Glock
@ajjiteshsharma4932 3 жыл бұрын
Jaguar livery was also co back then
@guruspubichair 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed after this day to make it a bit better. Formula video + listening to the music I like (Delta Parole, Metallica and other) make me feel the speed and excitement!
@kevenlad7409 3 жыл бұрын
gotta admit even tho they didn’t live up to their expectations their liveries were absolute 🔥 🔥🔥
@LuisTrey 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve said it a bunch of times in the past and I’ll say it again... Formula 1 NEEDS MORE MANUFACTURER TEAMS!
@mranto9318 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see them in f1 again this decade, just because they are really advanced in regard to hybrid engines
@Wizzkidwas 4 жыл бұрын
"Most expensive failure" Ricciardo, signing a Renault contract: Yeah about that
@vividthespis 4 жыл бұрын
I'll see you and raise you Alonso Mclaren
@tonybowker2430 4 жыл бұрын
That was only a few tens of millions of dollars, I’m sure Toyota spent at least ten times as much 😊😊
@ramsaybolton9741 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonybowker2430 doesnt matter. You have to think in the NPC way, doesnt matter if they do/did anything good "Renault bad haha"
@vividthespis 4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Greer LOL!!! I fold.
@TassieLorenzo 4 жыл бұрын
Mastercard Lola takes the cake!
@techmantra4521 4 жыл бұрын
"... so why did it fail?" Man in the picture *Points*: "That bit."
@Pavk-vd9su 3 жыл бұрын
"Toyota had a tedency to point the finger at the drivers for under performing" What does it reminds me? *cough*Ferrari*cough*
@aslamnurfikri7640 3 жыл бұрын
The team that failed with Prost, Alonso, Raikkonen, and Vettel? Yeah
@MrVonkliest 3 жыл бұрын
@@aslamnurfikri7640 big truth
@jahidislam5702 4 жыл бұрын
Your editor has pulled it out of the bag with the retro aesthetic!
@gheckolock81 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like they were more interested in using F1 as development ground for their corporate culture. They exposed their corporate ideology to a challenge that would help them identify weaknesses and potential opportunities. They pulled out when they felt that they had passed the steep end of the learning curve and would be experiencing diminishing returns. They put these lessons into practice in a series that required less investment in cutting edge aerodynamic research with more emphasis on durability. I would say this was a monumental success according to their value system.
@retard1415 4 жыл бұрын
Love the editing style on this video
@sauberboisaubarboi5652 4 жыл бұрын
Jarno Trulli, Ralf Schumacher and Timo Glock: Have we done well? Most fans: *no*
@dancastell5202 4 жыл бұрын
Shanley Savage Trulli and Schumacher we’re both great drivers and Glock was a solid 2nd driver to Trulli they got the maximum out of the cars they were given
@mrdraw2087 4 жыл бұрын
They signed the wrong Schumacher.
@markgriffiths9377 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call either of those drivers great. Trulli was VERY fast but not so much of a racer. Ralf was hopeless unless he was clear of the field by 10 seconds or more. Glock was average. I think with two top drivers they might have won a couple of races in 2009.
@micsteryt3671 4 жыл бұрын
@@markgriffiths9377 well u think that glock was average cos he was overtaken by Hamilton and became an icon.But in Hungary 2008 he was 2nd and had one more podium(or 2)
@willowwoodTV 4 жыл бұрын
@@markgriffiths9377 Trulli wasn't "so much of a racer"? Trulli-Train Disagree. He was a great Racer, but more a defensive one then offensive.
@maurizza3499 Жыл бұрын
Their hybrid LMP1 cars is a successful project, so i think they'll be competitive if they're ever wanted to return to F1
@titan_fx 4 жыл бұрын
Analysis on BMW Williams? Checked Toyota? Checked Maybe BAR/Honda next?
@X--hu2gk 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again! Suggestion for a different video, would like to see your take on previous drivers sons being given the best opportunities.
@fuckyoutube4 4 жыл бұрын
very good video! and to answer, yes. i think toyota was the shits. for a factory effort it was very bad. the japanese corporate mindset did not work in the 2000's F1 environment. let's see how renault will do in trying to win and avoid the same fate as toyota.
@TheCarsfan4ever 4 жыл бұрын
Such a shame for that livery to go to waste, upsetting really
@tyronnezx 4 жыл бұрын
Well it exists in some form in their current WEC and WRC cars. The WRC Cars actually have the Denso-Panasonic Sponsorship too. I didn't realise Toyota partially owns Panasonic
@lllengl.9660 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota need to go back to F1 and win it. Just like how they keep trying in the Le Mans 24 hours.
@tyronnezx 4 жыл бұрын
They will one day. Just not now
@extrememito 4 жыл бұрын
They won 24h du Mans only because they had no competition 😂
@funkysquirrel3120 4 жыл бұрын
@@extrememito They still managed to break records with that car, competition or not.
@glockmat 4 жыл бұрын
You mean how they did, cuz if you watched teh 2016 to 2019 races they obliterated the competition. Ok in 2016 they lost to Porsche, but that was luck. Once the problem was solved they had a problem of who to race with
@paulconnelly4050 4 жыл бұрын
I hope so too. It would be great to see Toyota back in F1
@williamford9564 4 жыл бұрын
There was some mention of how not having people with F1 experience. The decision to have major operations in Germany and not in England where many F1 people lived was a critical error. Not being able to recruit experienced people turned out to be a major point of failure.
@slysupersonic 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that people overlook about this was Toyota's NASCAR success at the time. Toyota had started their NASCAR journey in 2001, one year after they started their FORMULA 1 journey. And it produced way better results. The big reason for this is how well Nascar's and Toyota's ideals line up with each other's. Formula 1 is a developmental series, Nascar is a spec series. This means that in Nascar are the cars are built to be very similar as possible. This is done so that less emphasis is put on the car and more on the driver. If one manufacturer gets too far ahead of the rest, Nascar will actively try to give the other manufacturers an advantage to catch up to them. So when you have a Manufacturer like Toyota who wants things done it's way, paired with a series like Nascar, your gonna get great results pretty quickly.
@CapHowdy 4 жыл бұрын
10:45 is that the Toyota that was designed to fit Nigel Mansell in the car?
@AbrahamArthemius 4 жыл бұрын
Renault's return can be pretty similar in its trajectory to this and Jaguar was far more disastrous than this, at least Toyota is heading the right way at some point and at least garnering a couple podiums. ---- Now with F1 going full on with it's V6 Hybrid PUs and Toyota's current success in motorsports like WEC, WRC, Nascar, and so on, one can wonder if Toyota can be a pretty powerful force if they decide to come back to F1, at least as a PU supplier at first. Their GR division have been doing some great works and Akio Toyoda, the CEO of Toyota himself is a guy who actually love motorsport unlike his predecessors.
@Olivyay 4 жыл бұрын
10:40 "The TF108 was, along with the Brawn, the only car to have both a double diffuser and the front wing concept that would become de rigueur in F1" What front wing concept? The Williams also had the double diffuser and the same kind of front wing as the Brawn and Toyota.
@twizzicles23 2 жыл бұрын
What upset me most about Toyota bailing out is that it practically killed Timo Glock's F1 career. Really quite decent podium-grabbing driver got shafted and could only get a drive with then-Virgin Racing. Maybe he would have been another Sutil, I dunno, but he had a miniscule career in reasonable machinery to show off. Trulli got shafted too, my fave driver was still doing good stuff in 2009! Plus now given the glut of F2 drivers not getting F1 seats, imagine how much potential we are missing out without the extra Toyota cars to make a 22 car grid in the modern era! This wasn't a BMW Sauber situation where at least the Sauber half survived, or Honda becoming Brawn. No, the two cars were just GONE FOREVER.
@arieltisson9076 4 жыл бұрын
3:42 HE IS WATCHING AT YOUR SOUL.
@stephanstrehmel 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds interesting thank you for that and have a nice da
@Joselo3280 4 жыл бұрын
The saddest thing is that they quit WRC for this. There wouldn't have been a Loeb-Citroën dominance with Toyota in the game. In 2017 they returned, winning a constructor and drivers championship in just three seasons
@MichaelRoma91 4 жыл бұрын
I miss Toyota being in F1. They seemed like they had a promising future if they were able to stay. Plus I miss that red and white livery.
@Kam.naseem 4 жыл бұрын
Given the relative success of the hybrid LMP1 car and the tech theyve managed there, I think they pulled out of F1 at the worst time. Would love to see them back in F1 given the liveries, maybe Williams acquisition? Wishful thinking.
@mtlfpv 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota: *This is the way*
@rich1701 4 жыл бұрын
This comment about the drivers breaking too early and Toyota not understanding why is fairly widespread now. When Gascoigne joined the team he encountered the same problem. The team not understanding downforce improves breaking distance. Extraordinary they had this problem for 3 whole years before anything was done about it.
@anttihelin6820 4 жыл бұрын
Did... did you realize you had some archival footage that looked terrible as part of a modern 1080p youtube video so you went with the VHS gimmick? That's genius.
@hrithikjho4075 4 жыл бұрын
Im sure toyota will rival mercedes if they decided to join F1. Since technology has advanced and all
@kaljaadelfiineille 4 жыл бұрын
But Japanese way of running a corporation hasn't.
@HoshinoMirai 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaljaadelfiineille Exactly this. Toyota never lacked the money to push their technology. In fact, they would be the one with the most money if they wanted to. It's not about technology.... not yet...
@CyclistChris 4 жыл бұрын
It would take 2-5 years to get on par with the Mercedes engine - just look at the struggles Honda had when they came in with 12-18 months less development. Look at the struggles Renault have had to get on par. Ferrari only got on par by doing something they shouldn't hence why they dropped off after the "undisclosed agreement" with the FIA.
@hrithikjho4075 4 жыл бұрын
I say put a supra engine in an f1 car
@formulafan4428 4 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed after this day to make it a bit better. Formula video + listening to the music I like (Delta Parole, Metallica and other) make me feel the speed and excitement!
@LewisLevy 4 жыл бұрын
anyone know what circuit is being driven at the very end?
@mammutit 4 жыл бұрын
As an IT professional this reminds me too painfully of the waterfall vs agile methodology. They are gone like many awfully managed IT projects
@ridhobaihaqi144 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota won in Le Mans 2019, why? Because Porsche LMP1 discontinue
@wayneh1562 4 жыл бұрын
they won 2018 and 2019
@MidwestDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Porsche have won 1 race in 21 years in Formula 1, Formula 1 is the pinnacle of motor sports, Porsche have not returned to F1 because they don't have the technology to compete in F1, so they compete in less technology demanding racing like LeMans.
@IIGrayfoxII 3 жыл бұрын
Because they're the only Hybrid LMP1 team. The Hybrid rules need changing so other teams can keep up.
@self1sch 4 жыл бұрын
Some of this footage looks like it's from the 80s, crazy.....
@DestinysComputer 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota needs to come back. We need more manufacturers in F1.
@JohnSmith-rw8uh Жыл бұрын
not them
@blackhornetf Жыл бұрын
Toyota f1 engineers in Europe " we have developed a good car with mechanical grip and aero that we developed with michelin tyres " TOYOTA car company executives in Japan " oh yeah we have decided to switch to Bridgestone tyres that have total different characteristics " TOYOTA f1 team Europe " but .....bloody hell ok then "
@alexthehunted 4 жыл бұрын
I would say the Honda McLaren engine deal was one of the biggest disasters in f1
@Ahmet_ozdemirw 4 жыл бұрын
The engine feels good, much zlower than before
@AlonsoRules 4 жыл бұрын
Most of that was on McLaren for insisting on that Size Zero thing
@AFant 4 жыл бұрын
Trulli's masterful drive at Suzuka, beating Hamilton in a straight fight was one of the standout performances that year. You'd hoped such an impressive P2 at their home race could've swayed them to keep going. Nice to see the two almost certain victories for Trulli at Bahrain and Spa that were squandered due to strategy and technical issues being highlighted, usually when they are mentioned Trulli gets unfairly blamed for not bringing home the result when he in fact was blameless at both occasions. Also don't forget another potential victory was left at the table when the Michelin teams pulled out of the 2005 US GP where Trulli had qualified on pole, though I consider that one to be more of a long shot than the aforementioned 2009 races.
@alvinhuynh6469 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Toyota joined F1 now with the momentum from WEC
@shingimuskwe5587 11 ай бұрын
Also to be fair Kimi most likely would’ve won that race.
@jamsbong 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the pull out from Honda which subsequently produced the championship winning BrawnGP was also a huge failure from Honda. Very short sighted, just like Toyota.
@alex_ob1 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been great to have some interviews with key people included in this.
@970357ers 4 жыл бұрын
The reason: Committee rule ≠ F1.
@GeliCarlosJ 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Toyota didn’t pull out at the time they did. Mercedes could easily have been the second best PU with Toyota absolutely wrecking in terms of hybrids. Hamilton to Toyota? we will never know sadly
@PeRRXX 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Lewis driving a Corolla to the track 😂😂
@rmiah 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt it tbh, Mercedes’ hybrid design was particularly novel and I’d expect Toyota to stubbornly follow their own design even if it were unsuccessful. Their culture, like Ferrari, is just too slow and bureaucratic.
@gardemeister 4 жыл бұрын
@@PeRRXX Have ever heard Lexus Lc or Lfa?
@wreckgar23 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Particularly how the Toyota Way is singled out.
@farishanafiah8461 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I always love Japan, there's no denying that not all of their corporate culture works outside Japan.
@SilverScarletSpider 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2017, one could almost say that Honda became a very expensive and big F1 failure; however as soon as the 2018, 2019, and 2020 seasons came around they have throughly redeemed themselves by working openly and closely with Toro Rosso and Red Bull.
@chongmclong2966 3 жыл бұрын
The right mindset and business structure can redeem any company. The corporate greed and inability to mold to rapidly moving trends is honestly a huge shame in nearly every industry.
@SilverScarletSpider 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insight Chong Mclong. Hopefully Scuderia Ferarri will get their heads out of their arses soon.
@dmaharry7976 4 жыл бұрын
Cultural stubbornness held Toyota back unfortunately But i reckon they would do very well in today’s Hybrid era.
@kmyers5185 2 жыл бұрын
seem to remember that Toyota had a mission statement at my local dealership saying they aimed to win the F1 constructors championship within 5 years
@rexlumjod2512 4 жыл бұрын
Plss do the honda engine hybrid
@PonySparkle69 4 жыл бұрын
Toyota may fail on Formula 1, but there's no failure on Endurance Racing, and Rallycross.
@joe718gt4 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite team after Williams; never knew how Japanese work policy was until recently. Too much time and money on very unimportant things
@aslamnurfikri7640 4 жыл бұрын
The work culture can be described as company above individuals. Not just Toyota but also most of Japan
@MrGaryjames1 4 жыл бұрын
the last toyofa f1 car became the test mule for pirelli and was found to be as quick as the front running cars of the time.bitter irony to find out after the pull out that they had a competative car eh!
@animalcol1 4 жыл бұрын
Pity. Just shows a lack of looking inwards and acceptance of a need to quickly adopt I thought that the Gascoigne appointment was an acceptance of this, but it turned out not to be. Locating in Germany was nuts also.
@adamdickinson2894 4 жыл бұрын
Is that Glock? No, it's Tim O'Glock (if u know u know)
@dzikripratama3776 3 жыл бұрын
He lock his IG's comment every Brazilian Grand Prix
@JohnDoe-uu9gh 4 жыл бұрын
12:15 "Warning - corner cutting"
@DewdCH 4 жыл бұрын
ah.. a grid player i see
@SilverScarletSpider 2 жыл бұрын
The Red and White Toyota look so cool, almost like an Ultraman
@LoneWolf2k4 4 жыл бұрын
The F1 mindset always intrigues me. Toyota wanted to win right out of the gate. However, you would expect a 5 to 10 year plan. Especially considering the rate at which F1 technology changes. They were haphazard in their approach, then finally started to find consistency. Unfortunately, by then it was too late. When you look at their Endurance program, it makes it tough to swallow. I know it's comparing apples to oranges. I think with a little more time Toyota could have been competing with Mercedes, Ferrari, and Red Bull. It's makes it more difficult to comprehend that a 4th in the constructors championship wasn't good enough (given where they were at during the time).
@cshehanjames 4 жыл бұрын
Now will be a good time for Toyota to get into F1 and gain decades of experience by purchasing Williams.
@chrisorr3919 4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why they just didnt buy a back marking team and move it forwards... red bull and mercedes proved it can be done
@gamefan56 4 жыл бұрын
@Kim Yo Jong's Sandwich In the sense that it did not have any money yes.
@129aslamnurfikrir4 3 жыл бұрын
@Lord Mahaveer Maldonado Mercedes was Brawn GP which was Honda which was BAR which was Tyrrell
@balaphani9028 4 жыл бұрын
Why there is only ten teams in f1 ? Can you please explain it or make a video on it
@PassiveSmoking 4 жыл бұрын
You can't run an F1 team by committee. You need strong leadership. You need a Colin Chapman, or an Enzo Ferrari, or a Toto Wolf, or even a Paul Stoddart or Eddie Jordan. Ferrari's current woes are partially down to lack of strong leadership.
@marantamil459 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the 2010 car was great
@tashdemash2554 4 жыл бұрын
10:47 fam That Toyota looks like a 47 year old father and the Brawn is his 7 year old son.
@MrCatseyes01 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not your fam lowlife
@tashdemash2554 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCatseyes01 Yes you're my dog come here puppy!
@TheNo1Grapefruit 3 жыл бұрын
10:45 what is this "front wing concept" that you speak of?
@stefanreichenbacher2061 4 жыл бұрын
Shapewise, they built very aesthetically pleasing cars throughout their campaign.
@BigCar2 4 жыл бұрын
I always found it odd that Toyota didn't have one single sporty car while they were in F1. There was nothing in their lineup to set the heart racing.
@SebrystianVettel 4 жыл бұрын
if toyota comes back to f1 in nowadays with these hybrid technology i'm pretty sure they can be a top 5 or maybe a top 3 teams alongside with red bull and ferrari but they will never comeback i guess
@AbrahamArthemius 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're focusing on other kinda of motorsports now.
@hexgraphica 4 жыл бұрын
TOM's, which was Toyota's external racing team, was joining F1 in 1992. Had everything set up with a design by Barnard that was later used for 1994 Ferrari 412. TOM's never managed to get into F1 because Toyota had only IMSA engines (503E) and was developing a CART engine
@keksz2134 4 жыл бұрын
Ciao Tutti Toyota perfettá
@mohammadazka31 4 жыл бұрын
Not really a biggest failure. After failures you mentioned in the video, they were in a right way in 2009 and quite strong all season. They really is a future success, but crisis destroy them.
@saltbjorn 4 жыл бұрын
7:26 song?
@monstergivesyouwings1233 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad that Toyota left F1. If they stayed in F1 and which F1 team would be there rival
@Parazod 4 жыл бұрын
"...beaten by Williams" is something I never thought I'd hear
@amsterdamG2G 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Williams in the early 90s almost unbeatable
@miroslavdockal9468 4 жыл бұрын
Ill remember Williams as seriously succesfull Team. But im born in 78'.....things happened, and life is about to change.....
@jonpetter8921 4 жыл бұрын
Everythings is relative. Before Mercedes hybrid Era, Vettels Redd Bulls success, Schumachers Ferrari, William dominated F1 in the 80 and 90. lol
@miroslavdockal9468 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921, there was Williams, Lotus, Mclaren, Ferrari, Tolleman..... From engine supplyers, Renault, Honda, Ford, Lamborghini, Porsche, Ferrari, and more.... I nearly forgot BMW.....
@wobbler6372 4 жыл бұрын
Williams really have really tanked in the last 6 years .
@flyhighpizzapie 4 жыл бұрын
Is this channel just another Autosport channel?
@romanbaranovichi5375 4 жыл бұрын
It’s run by ex Autosport employees
@AbrahamArthemius 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much.. This channel (previously Let's Go Racing) was bought and run by former Autosport employees
@Petoyusa 4 жыл бұрын
@@AbrahamArthemius Formerly known as NismoTV lol
@KamiCheetah 4 жыл бұрын
What a time the 2000s were ... so much potential, and at the end of the decade they were all but gone ... sad. I wish some of them would consider giving it another shot, instead we have to fear the loss of Renault and Williams ...
@DaraM73 4 жыл бұрын
The latter, given its history of repeatedly withdrawing from categories it was surely on a path to succeeding in....I remember thinking that when (Trulli?) smashed it in the wall at the 2008 (?) Japanese GP that that was a turning point for the corporate decision makers.
@kawai922 4 жыл бұрын
Having worked for Japanese companies, I'd say Toyota's troubles isn't that dissimilar to other Japanese companies trying to break into the western market.
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