How Tyler, The Creator Solved the School Shooting Epidemic

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In 2012, Tyler The Creator was blasted online (what else is new?) regarding an RIP tweet to the Columbine School Massacre shooters. He then wrote the song "Pigs" released two years later in his sophomore album. The song gives intriguing and potent insight into the epidemic in and of itself, and what we can do on an individual level to help contribute to positive change.
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@sacredscriptures Жыл бұрын

Around the last sentiment you gave felt like a kind of dismissal of guns in the problems of school shootings, while i do agree that people and how they are treated are a root to the problem that surrounds school shootings and we should be taking with more care like with the examples you gave at the end to help them, however you have to acknowledge that guns are another root of the issue because without them then there would be no such thing as school shootings. I think while we should look towards a way on figuring out what drives people to do them and ways to prevent someone from falling down that path, we shouldn't dismiss the accessibility of guns and the use of them to commit the act of school shootings.

@JacksonsMusicPalate Жыл бұрын

I’m getting a lot of comments like this, so this is what I’ll say: I was dismissive (I think that was astutely described as for how I wanted to come off there) not because I don’t think action via gun laws could be productive - but because I think the debate surrounding school shootings gets funneled into a discussion about guns because it keeps things political. The polarized culture of the United States has gone away from using politics as a means of helping people and turned it into a way to be right and superior. This is an outdated, unproductive, and destructive mindset. So, when I am trying to turn heads away from that conversation, it is not to say I don’t believe a conversation there COULD create change, but because I think the debate in and of itself is not rooted in creating a better life for others (like the one Tyler wants to start), but is about asserting X and Y’s dominant opinion over the inferior (from their perspective) A and B. I really appreciate you guys thinking about this stuff critically and asking about it, and that is my perspective!

@charlestaylor652 Жыл бұрын

I understand what you mean. You could say Tyler the Creators thoughts on School shootings.

@JohnSmith-pq8gk Жыл бұрын

Naw, it got me to click and old Tyler the creator drew me in because the somewhat dark themes and lyrics. Keep the name

@stormycommentary4554 Жыл бұрын

so if guns have always been in America how come school shootings is more of a recent problem?

@northhaldir4595 Жыл бұрын

@@JacksonsMusicPalate I am awestruck that people on the internet are being respectful and considerate about political issues. I think this speaks to your carefulness about the topic and the effort you put in to cultivate this subject. 👏

@killroy9707 Жыл бұрын

my man, great video. but please change the title. it comes off extremely tone deaf and i don’t think you meant it that way.

@gexgaming6954 Жыл бұрын

True I think he should but the title gets clicks so he probably isn't going to

@chrissyb8063 Жыл бұрын

333 likes

@gexgaming6954 Жыл бұрын

@@bigg_bagel yeah it's just exploiting a real problem for clicks I think a title like "how Tyler, the creator faced the school shooter epidemic" then people would still click cause their curious without clickbaiting the audience

@REXae86 Жыл бұрын

@@gexgaming6954no we wouldn’t click

@linombijekana7789 Жыл бұрын

@@gexgaming6954it’s upsetting but they wouldn’t

@yirb9655 Жыл бұрын

Pigs is such an underrated song, it's cool to see people talk about it

@ApollyonMathy Жыл бұрын

The second song i heard from Tyler, i will never forget that day

@randomweeb2809 Жыл бұрын

Do you know what order I should listen to the Wolf trilogy in?

@ApollyonMathy Жыл бұрын

@@randomweeb2809 Bastard, Wolf, Goblin

@zzxgj Жыл бұрын

@@ApollyonMathyah bastard goblin wolf and Also wolf (2010) just for fun

@Buzz852 Жыл бұрын

@domonator5000 Жыл бұрын

Tyler never “glorified” rape. He talked about a subject that most people don’t want to talk about because they’re scared to even bring it up. He was discussing intrusive thoughts via use of a character he created for those older albums, an alternate, darker version of himself that almost everyone has inside of us to a degree, that we don’t allow to take control. He’s allowing emotions and frustrations buried in his unconscious flow out into the music. It’s reflective of the state of his life and his emotions at the time.

@wrennluvsu Жыл бұрын

say it again louder for the people in the back ‼‼‼‼

@yeahright3901 Жыл бұрын

was gonna say, the people who do commit awful acts like that are the people who have no where to express these fucked up thoughts or feelings and eventually just go off the deep end because they just feel that ostracized by society that at that point the laws of society mean NOTHING to them

@drakebell5649 Жыл бұрын

@@yeahright3901 that kinda makes it sound like you think tyler woulda been a rapist had he not made music, youre also just oversimplifying why rapists rape

@yeahright3901 Жыл бұрын

@@drakebell5649 ...? yeah no shit people do weird shit and things in general for specific reasons. The reason why people lash out is because they have no where to self express themselves. Yes tyler had the capacity to be a rapist, literally EVERYONE does. Tyler was in a shitty mindset while he was making these tracks but the beauty is he self expressed himself so he at least felt okay with being himself and being a part of society. Obviously not everyone will become a rapist or whatever but not self expressing these fucked up thoughts CAN lead you down a shitty path depending on your lifestyle. You were not listening to what I was saying lmao

@mango3716 Жыл бұрын

as someone with a disorder that revolves all around intrusive thoughts, Intrusive thoughts aren’t thoughts you actually want to do they’re called intrusive for a reason. They’re never something you want to do and it shouldn’t be seen as a darker side of ourselves everyone has inside Bc they’re nothing more than just thoughts that come and go, I don’t disagree with your point but I just think this is something people need to really understand

@Somewhere_Bagel Жыл бұрын

the thing i hate about sensitive topics like this, is if you dont 110% agree with the majority and be like yeah this is awful they are awful no need to look deeper into it, then people just talk shit and act like youre as bad as the thing it self.

@JacksonsMusicPalate Жыл бұрын

Agreed, thanks for bringing that to light. It is important we continue to push the envelope on what is expected of someone when they contribute to conversations like this! The goal should never be to be right or agreed with, but to understand deeply and continue learning :)

@technopancake85 Жыл бұрын

@@JacksonsMusicPalategood video bro! Keep up the great content!

@mango3716 Жыл бұрын

YES.

@Teimo 9 ай бұрын

People don't want to take the time to understand other people's perspectives. You can't change that in some people. It's best to just ignore them

@technopancake85 9 ай бұрын

@@Teimo yeah

@boxxyroyal5019 Жыл бұрын

People just don't know how to really truly love one another. I used to know a kid that was so lonely depressed and distressed that his favorite quote was " I hate life id rather fuckin di3,but not mine,I'd rather homicide over suicide" people strayed away from him because he's was weird..but he just needed a friend and some TLC tender love and care. I sat with him and just struck a conversation and let him unload his mind. It wasn't easy for him to actually trust me,he thought I was just trying to bully him. But after some time he understood that I just wanted to be around him bc I cared about what he had to say. We discussed many things..music, sexuality,art,growth, lifecycles,science, religion..and a lot of Fight Club, the conversations I had with him are the most meaningful conversations I've ever had with anyone. He opened up about how he was planning to do something very bad at our neighborhood grocery store, but he's said "I was going to start gathering the materials for my plan but then you started harassing me with friendship and I stopped thinking about the whole grocery list and just wanted to listen to Nickelback with you bc no on else likes them anymore" I laughed bc I got nervous and didn't know what to say. I guess my point is this kind of thinking can happen to ANYONE and we need to take a closer look at all tragedies not just suicid3..when someone goes on a riot spree we need to approach them with the same delicateness as other tragedies. I like what you said about gun laws..you're absolutely right it's not about who has them. It's about our social climate and how people feel in society esp the young ones? Good video m8

@xenoza02 Жыл бұрын

its def about who has them as well, as theyre so easily accessible

@boxxyroyal5019 Жыл бұрын

@@xenoza02 that's almost exactly my point. Firearms ARE very easy to get (in the US). Legally and illegally. So it doesn't matter who is allowed to have one or not bc if someone wants them they will get them. The guns arent the problem. I've never seen a M16 just stand up on its own and start shooting itself. The problem is ignoring mental health issues as if they will go away if society turns a blind eye. Then we get people that are upset and feeling unseen. Those people get a hold of a gun from their local gas station and then.. tragedy strikes. I know that ANYONE can commit a horrible mass murd3r, but I also think adolescence have a higher probability because of their developing bodies and psyche. Maybe a annual mental health eval for people 18 below would help recognize the troubled kids faster.

@elliotstname2709 Жыл бұрын

I used to befriend people like that until they'd start making comments like "what if i kidnapped your family and tortured them and you had to choose which one i shot and didn't shoot?" another one started calling me a bitch and a whore for rejecting them romantically , its not as easy as just befriend people especially if you're a girl.

@shadowmaster452 Жыл бұрын

@@elliotstname2709 that's a classic one, growing feelings and then acting like a maniac. I'm gonna say something really controversial but sometimes I'm not so sure if many mentally ill people even deserve to live, like a lot of them just go through life causing damage, hurting others and also themselves in the process. I've dealt with so many people like this, dated one and honestly? I've developed a small hate towards the mentally ill, they didn't choose to be that way but at this point I see them as a walking danger you know? It doesn't help that many of these problems are also genetic, so now they can spread their disease even further into the future and create more miserable people. Really controversial take from my part but after constantly dealing with people like this, you kinda just want them to disappear and you start seeing how bad a lot of them really are unconsciously.

@conniejitoooo Жыл бұрын

@@elliotstname2709 literally. it's always "they just need a friend :(" but becoming their friend is impossible. i had a classmate like that, we tried to befriend him but he harassed girls, he was literally a raging misogynist so naturally my girl friends and i would be scared of him. then he somehow found out i was scared of him and purposely started to talk to me about shooting up our school, mind you, i never did anything to him, i was just scared of him because of how he treated people and women and particular. he was also fixated on hitler and nazis, made racist jokes no one laughed at for obvious reasons and ended up befriended my friend's sexually abusive ex boyfriend. how are we expected to love these people when they act like that?

@ayejaygoez Жыл бұрын

Even if you lack empathy it just seems strategically sensible to try to understand the motives of your enemy

@analysis726 Жыл бұрын

this is a crazy title

@7temp Жыл бұрын

14:06 People care so much about fixing suicidal thoughts that they ignore homicidal thoughts

@nasimaa3534 9 ай бұрын

so real omg

@baller302 Жыл бұрын

cheers Tyler, I am thankful I can go to my school without getting shot!

@CrisisMoon7 8 ай бұрын

same :D

@prod3kero 3 ай бұрын

I’m estonian so I’m happy that we have no shootings at all. But I’m also happy Americans can go to school without a psychopath shooting people.

@sadsix370 Жыл бұрын

bruh his ass did NOT do that bruh 😭😭😭

@The_Super_Poodle Жыл бұрын

“Look at the kid who had the nine and tried to blow out his mind, but talk is money, I said “Hi” I guess I bought him some time.” - Tyler, The Creator

@LouieCaporimge 6 ай бұрын

DAMN. I ain't heard that in a while nor have I actually understood it, thank you Super_Poodle and Tyler.

@partikperg8970 Жыл бұрын

"solved the school shooting epidemic" lmaoooo ok

@susparia4724 Жыл бұрын

It is a dumbass clickbait title, but he actually brings up some great points

@2HI4L Жыл бұрын

this title is hilariously bad

@matin1285 Ай бұрын

What was it? I think he changed it rn

@lucilavelazquez9673 Жыл бұрын

I'm not from the US, so seeing all these school shooting incidents from the outside is truly shocking, but even more confusing. What could possibly create a wave of young murderers? And what is the solution to this issue? Is there even a solution in the first place? It's definetely hard for me to feel sympathy for a killer of any kind, but Tyler's (and your's) is an interesting perspective on this subject. This reminded me of a song by two spanish rappers, Porta and Santaflow, 'voces en mi interior', where they depict the story of a bullied kid (portrayed by Santaflow) who gives into the voices inside his mind (portrayed by Porta) that tell him to set his classroom on fire and kill his classmates. I believe this song sparked little to no controversy tho, maybe because it isn't a sensitive subject over in spain, or at least not at that time, perhaps people didn't perceive the song as a messege in favor of murderers like in Pigs case. idk, I just thought I'd mention that. Hopefully these incidents will come to an end someday. Great video

@prod.trigod Жыл бұрын

It's USA. The gun laws are fucked. In Finland we have super strict law, where if you have any gun (even simple pistol) any officer/other goverment personel can come into your house at any time to check that the gun is in a safe or in the same designated and agreed on place. For example if the gun is agreed to be in a safety locker, but the officer finds it on your bed, they can take your gun permission out for rest of your life. Also you need to have military service done before getting even a permission. I think in America they take guns too lightly and as an everyday object, while in other countries like Finland, you rarely ever even see people with guns (we hate when people come into our house uninvited lol)

@funkykong6144 Жыл бұрын

@@prod.trigod the gun laws aren't the root of the issues, the indulgence of media and how it affects young minds can be pinned, but rather its much more complex than that, i believe that the over indulgence of media an internet in the US is the real root of the problems, as the internet isnt a safe place. Theres online bullying etc, apart from that theres also issues that exist in their own lives that make the internet their escape, and if their escape from reality is filled with hatred, it further perpetuates the impulsive nature that young kids have with violence, if u live a life full of hate, ur gonna be quite hateful too. The narrative of gunlaws being a root issue is so sloppy and lazy, cause even if we banned guns and any weapon, it doesnt end the impulsive nature and anger that kids have. Theres a whole bigger picture :(

@lucilavelazquez9673 Жыл бұрын

@@funkykong6144 gun control may not be the solution, but it can be a safety measure and the first step to find a solution. No doubt there's a societal/psychological issue underneath the surface that has to be dealt with, but the fact that guns are so easy to access is a problem in itself. Where I live, the enforcement of the law may not be as strict as finland's, but many people desist from owning guns despite feeling unsafe in their homes because they feel they can become a danger to themselves. You are never safe around a firearm, no matter where it is

@rezngho5t912 Жыл бұрын

dude im from the US and we dont know either. Its probably a mix between the heavy gun culture here mixed with mental illness, and the internet. I knew a dude last year in my sophomore of high school and bro was literally a psychopath. This foo had hard home life and what ive known by foos who went to his middle school. Is that he was always being bullied endlessly. When i met him bro was always on his phone using shit like 4 chan n shi hella he was hella edgy too. he would spend 10s of hours every week to looking at gore vids and he would show people in the class i was in. We reported him hella times to the teachers and office but they never did anything besides take him to the counselor. i also remember he was huge on guns he would on stuff like offer up to look at guns for sell. And i remember the last day i saw him he told some of us in our group he was talking about how he could hurt someone and not feel anything and shit like that and he was talking about school shooters and he explained a story. on how if he would shoot up a school he would block the main exist and lure people out. we were all freaked out and told on him last thing i heard from the teachers is he was put in a hospital. Also mb for the spelling im exhausted.

@rerage865 Жыл бұрын

It's a mental health issue

@Miguel-ym3bu Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, Tyler himself said he actually dislikes this song. I'll try to find where I saw this. But I do think this song is a good perspective on a real issue. It also ties very well with the WOLF album theme along with his trilogy ( BASTARD-WOLF).

@awsumpops Жыл бұрын

he did say this once, might've been the result of the backlash making him think that his intentions with this song weren't delivered properly

@REXae86 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he said he hate “pigs” and “Buffalo”

@SonZ17 Жыл бұрын

This is the best video I’ve watched, Tyler is right idc what anyone thinks, we all got to be there for anybody

@otinauj Жыл бұрын

solved is a strong word

@70s_GenLover Жыл бұрын

He literally said it's not him saying it was solved or figured out, just him bringing attention to the matter. Did u watch the vid?

@otinauj Жыл бұрын

@@70s_GenLover i did but the title

@Greensthename Жыл бұрын

this video inspired me so much. I want to try to start an app for kids to be more open about mental health and depression so stuff like this could be avoided.

@randomperson2099 Жыл бұрын

I like your idea but that could end horribly if you add comments

@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts Жыл бұрын

The Whisper App exist and it got co-oped by incels and femcels that do nothing but yell over each other all day.

@JacksonsMusicPalate Жыл бұрын

WOW! This is incredible! Please chase this dream! I'm behind you all the way

@gezzarice_vods 8 ай бұрын

@@randomperson2099exactly what i was thinking

@Bongod Жыл бұрын

yea man no school shooting ever happened again, what a weird title

@70s_GenLover Жыл бұрын

U sped gang ngl

@bgradeschmeat4987 Жыл бұрын

Bro what the FUCK is that title

@morallygrey4071 Жыл бұрын

I don't think OP meant a complete resolution and halt of the school shooting issue, more that Tyler seems to have broken down, and either understood or found the root of the problem behind these school shootings, regardless of what comes after in local news and media such as topics on gun control or arming personnel

@idvdk 5 ай бұрын

its clickbait bro

@rec3de Жыл бұрын

for the love of god change the title

@cheyennevirrill2811 9 ай бұрын

what i think he meant in his tweet wasn’t that the shooters were cool because of their shootings, but that they probably had great personalities but were considered weird by their peers and no one had cared to check in on them

@Puscruna Жыл бұрын

A lot of people behind school shootings are people with motive or some sort of backstory/trauma. Although those people may have gone through something genuinely traumatic, it's never an excuse to commit harmful actions

@moggingyou Жыл бұрын

Rename the video to “That Time Tyler Creator Tackled The School Shooting epidemic” current title is too far and ridiculous

@Samuriy 9 ай бұрын

That’s prolly the best title

@vhsraid Жыл бұрын

well documented music album video. This is my first and you have really opened my eyes to something i didnt know about in the first place and what its really about. Glad this is my first video from u

@ujfujf422 Жыл бұрын

amazing video man never knew tyler would portray such a complex issue in such an amazing way, i don't even listen to him really jus think he's an amazing artistic mind. This is a really good video man you put it all perfectly many props!

@ujfujf422 Жыл бұрын

just had a lot of thoughts of how someone could do this or come to this point themselves and if you see some correlations you can kinda work it out but tryler really fleshed it out in such an amazingly fluent way. apologies if im rambling just always seen it as a really perplexing thing not being from america (obviously happens rarely in some other places but i assume we all synonymize the two)

@tr1stana. Жыл бұрын

this is an amazing video, i really think you broke down the song really well and put things into perspective. well done !!

@swagless6719 Жыл бұрын

your pfp is tv girl i love that group

@butterhands3061 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching a lot of Tyler the creator videos as it’s my current hyper fixation and I see most of your comments on them lol

@jakestan1185 9 ай бұрын

aye a Tyler and tv girl fan

@99ish91 Жыл бұрын

Clearly he didn't

@ar_th Жыл бұрын

Sometimes talking about the issue itself instead of just leaving it behind or making it almost illegal to talk about could solve it. I brought up the topic but my friends shushed me saying they might think I’m wrong from the head and might do it which is actually just sad

@JacksonsMusicPalate Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear about your friends. I would encourage you to continue seeking out friendships that want to engage in deeper life topics with you. My friend, you are a seeker, and that is an amazing thing

@ar_th Жыл бұрын

@@JacksonsMusicPalatenot a lot ppl I know like to go that deep but I’m glad here in KZfaq there are ppl like you that openly open to ideas and go deep that society mostly shuts them off hahaha I’ll seek ppl that think the same love your videos ❤

@CharlesHammy Жыл бұрын

broski, no he didn't stop "The School Shooting Epidemic" knock it off

@SoundScape532 Жыл бұрын

Solved, not stopped

@CharlesHammy Жыл бұрын

@@SoundScape532 broski, he didn't "solve The School Shooting Epidemic"

@SoundScape532 Жыл бұрын

@@CharlesHammy detectives don't stop murders

@70s_GenLover Жыл бұрын

@@CharlesHammybroski, STOP SAYING BROSKI. Also in the VIDEO he admits it's not solved or "fixed" jus him bringing attention to the topic. WATCH THE VID

@CharlesHammy Жыл бұрын

@@70s_GenLover nah Broski, pay me if you wanna me to stop saying broski

@iicloudycomet5555 2 ай бұрын

Wow this really changed my outlook on the song and album and honestly school shootings in general. Thank you.

@lowly9180 Жыл бұрын

Great video dude. This was awesome. I think the line when Tyler was talking about listening to music but they “wouldn’t let me on their team” is a reference to his actual life in high school. He wanted to join the high school band and orchestra but he got kicked out of both because the kids were making fun of him and thought he was annoying. I think it’s kind of a cool reference

@Yosano1fan Жыл бұрын

I'm glad about this video because Pig is one of my favorite songs on WOLF, and really describes the songs meaning

@Bmafu Жыл бұрын

People who judge Tyler for this song had an easy life and it shows

@thegoat-sg5hg Жыл бұрын

Bruh I always tell people tyler is such an excellent story teller. This song is what I always show them. But time and time again he has tracks like this. Wilshire on CMIYGL instantly reminded me of wolf era Tyler

@wyattberube7408 Жыл бұрын

Dude this might be one of the best KZfaq videos I’ve ever watched, amazing job dude.

@ofwgktadgafls Жыл бұрын

Wolf will always be my favorite Tyler album, this video is great and was very educational

@otinauj Жыл бұрын

i love wolf so much, pigs is definitely one of my fav songs tyler has ever made

@bfxti Жыл бұрын

I stumbled across this video then watched 4 of your other ones and subbed keep up the quality content your amazing at this

@chai-24c-magic 5 ай бұрын

i love how you talked about how people dehumanize them after they do something so horrible and how we have to sympathize for how they feel and what they're going through and how we shouldn't sympathize for what they did

@EduHaroC Жыл бұрын

I found you awhile back, and the first video I saw of you was your breakdown of House of Balloons by the Weeknd. I followed you that very day, and I gotta say, you are such an underrated creator on this platform. This video about Tyler gave me chills, and it made me revisit him and I listened to his whole discography. Thank You for being you. My support for you will continue :)

@traviswesley8281 Жыл бұрын

As someone who’s hasn’t listened to wolf yet, I’m excited to listen

@chrisc1072 Жыл бұрын

listen to it its crazy

@rnac5438 Жыл бұрын

bike around on a sunny day and listen to wolf, best way to experience the album

@phaggut7875 Жыл бұрын

Drop some acid and listen to it

@traviswesley8281 Жыл бұрын

Guys, im happy to report its literally one of my favorite albums of all time. I took your guys recommendations (not the acid cus I’m sober) and the drums, the bass, the guitar, etc. so beautiful. I’ll never forget this video.

@stefannn675 Жыл бұрын

This video is perfectly made and I truly enjoyed viewing!

@JacksonsMusicPalate Жыл бұрын

Thank you dearly for taking the time to encourage me. These comments mean so much!

@ember3117 Жыл бұрын

From 20:00 to 20:37 . This!!! THat Part!! Right their. You hit the nail with THORS MIGHTY HAMMER my guy- Luv E

@kindwhite931 Жыл бұрын

@jaxoppewal9063 Жыл бұрын

8:27 ironic shoot down but also this is really cool and its great to raise awarness so if you know someone whos parents treat them wrong at home you can try n comfort them

@chipwhich 10 ай бұрын

omg phew! good thing he saved the world no more school shootings!

@youngtano 11 ай бұрын

Praise this video. You did amazing.

@milkyway-sw2sf 10 ай бұрын

I often see people thinking pigs is the worst song of wolf, and for me it has always being more deep than just some goofy drums and a cliché psycopathe's story. Thanks for the video, as a non-American who doesn't deal with school shooting issues, the video was very instructive

@Milooo_64 9 ай бұрын

it’s such an incredible song too it’s a shame people don’t like it, the lyrics and beat tell a great story and it’s just amazing as a whole

@joelchungus Жыл бұрын

Well thought out, great vid Jackson!

@LWilliams699 Жыл бұрын

Support u and u got a fan for talking bout this touchy subject and give ur opinions rather people like it or not respect

@broccolionswag 5 ай бұрын

amazing video, so much to think about and well executed, thank you

@rachelreese9813 Жыл бұрын

This video is very well made! Great job!

@joeclark6768 Жыл бұрын

This is awesome! Please make more videos like this

@crocodilecocoon 10 ай бұрын

Might be the worst youtube title of all time

@FurryestX Жыл бұрын

1 Educate properly your kids 2 stop selling guns to every one 3 LOVE and ATENTION

@grantelijah2965 9 ай бұрын

your take on tyler’s old music (bastard and goblin) is spot on imo

@tigrispanthera5496 9 ай бұрын

video too long. what was his take

@makibouru 9 ай бұрын

@@tigrispanthera5496 tldr he said that his old music was insensitive or whatever, that's not the message of the video though you should take the time to watch this video It has a very good inspirational message

@jakejakelawn Жыл бұрын

Pigs is my favorite song from WOLF. I’m happy it’s getting recognized for what it is.

@Ricky-wz3su 9 ай бұрын

one of the best videos ive ever seen on KZfaq man you just earned a sub. im blown away and i cant wait to watch your other videos

@muastafgemy5134 Жыл бұрын

absolutely amazing video keep up the great work and i really lovw your view on the world! 🔥

@n9ta1ia Жыл бұрын

what a great video, thankyou for this perspective

@Trapanrot-lz2qg Ай бұрын

my favorite tyler song never gets any attention it’s about time

@shaixiii Жыл бұрын

fantastic video, this is the best i've ever seen this song discussed and covered topically good shit 👍

@hatchettz Жыл бұрын

this reminds me of the topic of restorative justice. instead of solely looking at the actions of criminals and demonizing them, we must look at the cause of those actions and seek to find solutions based off of that. when you look at this topic you really begin to notice how much empathy our society and criminal justice lacks. we are so focused on locking these people away that we forget that they are humans with struggles, issues and traumas that cause them to turn to violent behavior and crime. if we actually wanted to stop school shootings and crime in general we have to seek to understanding these people and giving them the resources they need in order to get better and prevent others from falling into the same cycle. if you actually sit and think, jail time does nothing because theyll only get worse over time especially if theyre surrounded by people with like or even worse mindsets. if we took the time to look outside ourselves to give empathy and support to people like this who’ve never received it maybe, just maybe we could work towards a world where people dont have to turn to violence. edit: and its also important to note that everybody’s way of thinking and acting is all circumstantial. the environment that samuel was in caused him to internalize his pain and then externalize it by taking the lives of others. just like how the people who find it inhumane to seek to understand or sympathize with the columbine shooters were placed in environments where they had the privilege not to think like that or turn to actions of violence. people judge what they cant understand and how we were all raised and what we’ve seen/experienced all goes into how we view and carry ourselves in the world.

@its.frisko 10 ай бұрын

this earns a subscribe great video man keep doing what you do and keep making good shit

@mrdeathshead Жыл бұрын

Reminds of how KoRn made the song "thoughtless" about the shooters perspective

@scottreupert5395 5 ай бұрын

Even before I started listening to Tyler, I was always curious about the psychology of serial killers and mass shooters. When I did find Wolf, I loved it because it's doesn't just acknowledge those shooters but their mentality and a lot of it is super relatable. it's a kid going through shit and no one to reach out. some people just don't make it through that shit. there's a reason "love your enemies" exist

@Jason.Skidmore Жыл бұрын

You should make a Patreon... I would be willing to pay for this content

@accc430 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video and a thought provoking take on this beyond what most people would portray gave me and I’m sure many others a lot to think about I discovered Tyler in my teen years, years when I suffered with really bad depression because of things I won’t get into on this comment. And a lot of the earlier edginess portrayed on his earliest projects were some of the only art that ever spoke to me at the time. The deeper messages of self love and acceptance was a good one to dive into if you could look past a lot of the shock stuff that was amongst it. I really do believe that a lot of that content really found it’s way to people that otherwise didn’t have anything else. People far worse off than myself as well. That’s something that I fail to see get brought up much nowadays when people bash his older music. Listening to this song as a teenager and relizing that I related to a lot of the emotions shown in this song was really eye opening to me at the time, and shined a light on the path I could have potentially have been treading. Not to say this changed my life and stopped something crazy from happening directly but truth be told who knows what could have happened if I never grew any self awareness in that regard (btw guys don’t worry about me, I’m in my twenties now and am doing way better than ever before, my heart goes out to anyone still enduring struggles please just know that it does get better I promise you)

@kianahrwilliams1360 10 ай бұрын

I love that you made this video. I have the same ideology. Yes it is wrong to do those things but why did you? My mom was scared that I was going to turn out to be a serial k1ller bc I was “fascinated” by them. I just really wanted to know why. And when I look inward and think “what is something crazy that I have thought about due to mistreatment?” And I encourage everyone to apply this question to themselves. Personally I have though about hurting someone who used to steal from me all the time. She doesn’t anymore only bc I moved out. That whole situation is long so I’ll just keep it as that. I am a very kind person, I’ve always been. This isn’t me tryna make myself look better, I just care deeply for everyone, even strangers and animals. My mother really drilled empathy into me, and empathy is so important. I feel bad for everyone who has done something bad. I’m not sorry for the consequences of their actions, I’m sorry for the fact that you had those thoughts and you had to live with them. No one is just telling their friend “I want to hurt someone” and expecting them to actually care, they CANT speak about those thoughts. Same with racists, I’m so sorry that you live with so much hatred in your heart. I’m just sorry for humans as a whole. We could be so great but .. yeah

@shizoxku4485 Жыл бұрын

i love Tyler the creator bro, he actually puts meaning into his songs bro

@mango3716 Жыл бұрын

As someone who feels empathy for EVERYONE I understand what Tyler was saying and trying to portray. I never understand why we can’t sympathize for the persons on the opposite side, we can’t we sympathize for both parties? It’s Bc people are so scared of being judged, we need to care for both parties if we want to solve the issue.

@kinkybooboo Жыл бұрын

amazing video, keep it up man!😄

@darii3523 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing ❤❤

@0svvan0 Ай бұрын

all good points. there's other stuff to it (like how young men are raised and how easily they can be radicalized), but i think this spoke on one aspect pretty well

@red1409 Ай бұрын

Off topic, but I love the daft punk picture thingy in the back

@KitKatTheKat2 Жыл бұрын

Idk bruh there still be school shooters

@EwMusik68KydAvonWestCarti Жыл бұрын

Bastard: Story and his dark expression of emotion Goblin: Overdone dark story at one point WOLF: Everything but matured and better.

@kindwhite931 Жыл бұрын

Bro amazing video

@sykoyooth Жыл бұрын

I live in Oxford Michigan we just had a shooting at our high school almost 3 years ago

@lillahobbiten Жыл бұрын

There are three alter-egos performing on Wolf Tyler, Wolf Haley and Sam also Sam appears on Bastard in the song pigs fly and i think goblin and bastard are misunderstood because the trilogy is connected in the order Bastard, Wolf and Goblin

@SpaceshipsAndBliss Жыл бұрын

Sam is in Pigs Fly? I’ve listened to Bastard so many times and never noticed

@lillahobbiten Жыл бұрын

@@SpaceshipsAndBliss Yeah people didn’t know when it released but after wolf it’s pretty clear

@Preejuu42 Жыл бұрын

Sam's a separate character from Tyler and Wolf

@lillahobbiten Жыл бұрын

@@Preejuu42 Look at sam is dead music video

@AmityMidwest Жыл бұрын

Listening to it again from that perspective makes it feel completely different

@Chrys_Olina Жыл бұрын

You had me until you said guns aren't the problem.

@treyfuller4498 Ай бұрын

Guns aren’t the problem, bad gun owners are, no matter how much you control guns for innocent tax paying citizens bad people are gonna get guns if they need them , whether or not it’s legal

@blade7506 Жыл бұрын

an unloved child will burn down the village to feel it’s warmth

@harrryguy Жыл бұрын

Tyler didn’t solve anything the rates are still increasing 😂

@8ginger8 Жыл бұрын

Because society won’t listen to his solution 😕

@iforgor5848 Жыл бұрын

this video is a masterpiece

@incognito4189 3 ай бұрын

man that title is actually crazy

@cheem_gaze Жыл бұрын

as someone who WAS going to be a school shooter, I heavily related to this song, to the point where it almost felt eerie. Everyone who talks about school shootings never understand why they happen or just blame guns and call it a day. Understanding that when you have nothing to lose and hatred is the only thing you really have you're going to do something with it that no one is going to like. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."

@user-iw4rj8ru3f Жыл бұрын

the issue with solving mass shootings is that its not possible to solve from the root. the root of the problem is mass shootings are caused by either angry people (as in columbine) or people who enjoy watching others suffer. (as in sandy hook, parkland, and Uvalde) that's not something that is fixable. you cant force people to feel empathy if they don't, so where were at now is at least trying to find a way to limit the damage these people can do, sense there isnt anyway to stop them from wanting to do the damage. that's why Americas poor gun control is the perfect breeding grounds for mass shootings. our capitalistic greed of wanting materials leads us to be angry when its taken away, because now we have less stuff, so gun control essentially cant work until people feel so unsafe they no longer care about material possessions. then mass shootings will stop because you wont be able to kill as Meany people in such a short amount of time. also the reason why people are mad about "pigs" is because art is viewed by the general public as a mockery of its subject matter. that why art is treated with un-importance is pop culture, and artists are viewed as either pretentious assholes or idiotic nobodies. so when people hear that someone (intentionally, mind you. "pumped up kicks" for example, while culturally viewed in the context of a school shooting, was intended to be an allegory about popularity by the band that made it. so its not viewed as distasteful.) made a song about a school shooting, it comes off as insensitive and cruel.

@user-iw4rj8ru3f Жыл бұрын

@@confinedbydigits what are you, steven universe? they want to watch the world burn because they *have* no empathy

@user-iw4rj8ru3f Жыл бұрын

@@confinedbydigits hurt people hurt people, yes, but people who enjoy hurting people do it far more.

@user-iw4rj8ru3f Жыл бұрын

Uvalde, parkland, and sandy hook were all the product of mentally ill and psychological disturbed individuals, who simply wanted to just hurt people. nothing made them that way, they just wanted to do it, could do it, and had no one in there way and no process to stop them from doing it. yes, columbine was loosely the fault of the school because of the school culture looking down on anyone who wasn't hot, rich, and athletic, but both killers also presented mental illness so their likely enjoyment of the situation can not be ruled out. hurt people hurt people, but hurt people don't go to there old elementary school and shoot it up for fun. disturbed creatures do.

@VAL_N10 Жыл бұрын

Saw Tyler, was interested, saw daft punk poster, subscribed.

@blxdiexoxo 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Tyler for ending school shootings

@ramos5117 Жыл бұрын

the glazing is insane

@CupNMug Жыл бұрын

Man this vid is blowing up my dude

@bygbuggyg4487 Жыл бұрын

I also want to note how the 3rd verse’s first line is also in reference that after Columbine, they never looked at their social lives until years after. Instead, they opted to try to blame anything. Doom, Marilyn Manson, Television. They never looked at the reality. I understand the reality because when I was 14 I thought about it. These kids were hurting and they had nobody to turn to, nobody willing to listen. Nobody understood their pain. So they decided to MAKE them understand. I’m not defending them but I’m showing their mindset. They had to hurt the way they hurt.

@breaktide251 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video thank you for your hard work

@lame1178 Жыл бұрын

it seems like u missed the point of goblin man

@bogasa4829 Жыл бұрын

Bastard was great goblin was ok and wolf was near perfect for his early work imo

@REXae86 Жыл бұрын

Goblin was good,Batard was meh but wolf was amazing.

@jakeshirey8179 Жыл бұрын

I mean Tyler is right, they were probably the prototype kids that Tyler would love. They were probably geeks and were super into what they loved. My respect for him skyrocketed because writing that song could’ve ruined his career, he could’ve been canceled so fast