Yeah, I think what they were getting at is if any of the isolated timelines branch into the greater multiverse (ruled by the kang dynasty) then the dynasty could then access the host timeline from that branch and destroy/go to war over it they prob wanna get rid of those timelines specifically since they contain enemy groups like the avengers

Smart! Yo Marvel answer this! PLOT HOLE!!

That is our working hypothesis as well, lets just hope they actually plan to do something with it ^^

@@CanonCosmic Or, the fact that the Watcher placed Natasha in a different timeline at the end of What If. I still think the multiple timelines in each universe makes better sense.

if something is supposed to happen then it wont affect the universe or timeline... like how tva says avengers time travelling has to happen.. take an example also of present captain america lived in the past it did not shatter the timeline or the universe

​@@MrWesley316 and each timeline is a birth of a nee universe

1 is what most media go by.

Or that without HWR none of the multiverse existed because a variant may arise so he prunes anything from his main universe or timeline All the strings are a just energy we don’t know from where. We just know they could travel no where else but 616 prior to HWR death.

I feel you are absolutely right, all current indications seem to be that 1 and 3 both are correct! As far as Tobey and Andrew are concerned, I believe that they are actually from their own universes which have their own bunch of timelines, rather than their universes being a branched timeline of the MCU. This also explains why HWR could stop the war, he didn't stop it, he just cut out all the branched timelines of the MCU causing it to be cut off from other universes. We have all these universes around, let's call them "mother universes" and their branched timelines as approach 1 states. and the branched timelines are universes in their own right! This explains, how we have the TVA and the citadel at the end of time. They are just located in the empty space between 2 "mother" universes as MCU doesn't have any branches. However, "Michael Waldron" the writer of Dr strange: MOM and Loki has stated in an interview that it is not actually possible to travel from one universe except america chavez's powers. There is no tech that allows this, Only way we know through magic is "dream waking" spell and that is just possession rather than traveling, and america's powers. But He also states that branching timelines will allow travel to different universes because some timelines will create "bridges" between them! This would mean, that branched timelines connect their "mother" universe with another "mother" universe which has its own timelines. making approach 1 and 3 correct and ironically this description is exactly what approach 2 is supposed to be! So, All 3 of the approaches seem to be true at the same time! Which is really weird, I really wish, they cleared up what they want the multiverse to be, before they got into it, I personally would have preferred if they went into multiverse in phase 7 and whole kang and secret wars was phase 9. unrelated but would put it out here: In the marvel comics approach 3 is true, however some timelines diverged so long ago that it feels like approach 1 and 3 both are applicable, they are NOT, only approach 3 is true. Of course , even the comics didn't know what they wanted the multiverse to be, but they we cut them slack because they were the first ones to use the multiverse (we had other worlds alongside our world in fiction before comics, but the form in which we identify and recognize the multiverse in fiction was first created in the comics, DC comics actually, funny enough in 1961, the same year marvel was created, marvel would get in on the multiverse too 10 years later)(DC started with approach 1, so that is the first type of multiverse that was conceptualized) I know this was long so thank you for reading everyone!

Nah i think each universe is actually its own timeline and the sacred timeline is the collection of timelines that the kang dynasty want to destroy, but couldnt because of the tva/he who remains

I think each universe is its own timeline, and a branch could be like a pocket reality within that universe

@@echo_z319Works for me. I got stoned, began to watch the trailer for ‘Loki’ Season 2 and, for a moment, I thought to myself “I haven’t got a clue what’s goin’ on anymore”! However, the multiple Loki’s (kid with hammer, Richard E. Grant & the croc) are SURELY from alternate universes & not alternate timelines!

​@@echo_z319No my dude. You wanna talk about a world within a world, those are dimensions. Branches diverge*, as in, no longer a part of the previous one

@@yudhazacharias9377 1. the dark dimension is not ‘within’ anything so clearly the word dimension isnt consistent 2. obviously once branches diverge they become separate, that doesn’t change the fact that they still exist within a singular host universe, as clearly proven in loki s2

@@echo_z319 Okay, you have a point. Now here is something that's boggling my mind. Where do Tobey and Andrew hail from? I understand they're not from alternate timelines, they're from other universes. Now how come other universes be so separate? Arrowverse's crisis explained that the multiverse come from different choices in life, so do EEAAO, JL:COTE, etc. Even Paradox from Ben 10 explained that paralel worlds are crosstime. So like everything about the multiverse has to do with time, and as Michael Waldron, the writer explained, variants come from instances in time. So it all has to do with time. So when I say Tobey and Andrew come from branches, I mean branches of the multiverse

Tobey and Andrew are variants my dude. However, unlike 2012 Loki, they're not created by time travel, but instances in time aka Nexus events aka divergence which is the cause of the multiverse. Every explanation explains that the multiverse is caused by different choices in life, different outcomes, etc, that's the many worlds interpretation for you. I watched Crisis on 2 Earths, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Crisis on Infinite Earths, they all explain that different Earths come from different choices in life. So Tobey and Andrew hail from branches of a branch of a branch of a branch that is way down the tree

@@yudhazacharias9377 earth 838 is a universe/timeline where ultron went right like tony wanted is that considered a nexus event

@@mandalorianjedi232 no, the. Nexus goes way further in the past, like the very beginning of traffic lights, and they decided to make red means go

@@yudhazacharias9377 oh right so what about the spidey films

@@mandalorianjedi232 hard to identify

Well, not to sound cliche but actually, Multiverse is multiple timelines. The death of the first firmament was the first nexus event, Creating different timelines which kept on branching and became the multiverse That was the nexus event that created the paint universe, or the paint universe could have branched from one of the universes in its early stage, back when gas clouds which turned into stars and planets were yet to form. But the marvel multiverse is and always has been a collection of alternate timelines. Eternity is not personification of the multiverse, Eternity is personification of a single universe. We have multiple universes each with their own eternity. So there are different versions or varients of eternity, throughout the multiverse. Living Tribunal guards and observes the whole multiverse the multiverse being a bunch of alternate timelines, doesn't affect him at all and they can use the character just fine The Beyonders have been specified to come from outside the multiverse, so multiverse being a bunch of alternate timelines doesn't affect them at all, once again they can be used easily. Marvel multiverse has always being multiple timelines, every universe is just a branched timeline. some just diverged by nexus event so long ago that they are unrecognizable now, like the paint universe or squadron supreme. Imagine, a circle, if I draw a straight line leftwards from the center of the circle till its circumference, I have the radius of the circle If I draw a straight line upwards from the center of the circle till its circumference, I have the radius of the circle Regardless of how I draw the straight line from the center of circle till its circumference, I always get the radius. I can draw multiple straight lines from center to the circumference, in the same circle and they would all still be the radius! Now, replace the center with the "big bang" or the "death of the first firnament" and all the universes created would just be alternate timelines of each other! but would be parallel to each other! now paint universe and squadron supreme make sense! these parallel but alternate timelines of each other, would create branches of their own which would eventually end up becoming the multiverse This is how it works in the comics, which are the original source material this is all based one. Thank you for reading

@@ankurdesai8370 first Google the meaning of alternate timelines and parallel universes... individual eternities are the cells of larger multiversal eternity... If you observe the quantumania Kang the conquerer is showing two different scared timelines..so the tree holding by the Loki is just one tree in whole forest of multiverse..first firmament shattered into peaces and formed multiverse...no way it's a nexus point... what is nexus point.. from starting to end if fate is fixed. .. if any thing happened out of those fixed points then it is known as nexus points. So multiverse is not about alternate timelines.. your theory is completely wrong