How Watch Finishing Works

How Watch Finishing Works | The Classroom

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4 жыл бұрын

There's some watch finishes that adorn most luxury watches like the Côtes de Genève that people recognize. But what about other finishes like perlage or anglage? Also things like blued screws require special techniques, but how is it done?
Master watchmaker Michael Michaels is here to fill you in! Through years of studying watchmaking techniques, Mike has an in-depth knowledge of all types of watch finishing and how it's done. He discusses how brands like F.P. Journe and Patek Philippe are master watch finishers.
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@oneal14attnet 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful video. A. Lange & Sohne has some great videos on the finishing process. You can see how the watchmaker creates the different finishes. Amazing stuff. Wish Michael well in his next endeavor.

@ArtBorow 4 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering why Mike didn't mention Lange.

@oneal14attnet 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Lange’s videos really drive home where the true cost of finishing comes into play. I appreciate it but would not have the patience to perform it.

@georgebeckford728 4 жыл бұрын

Lange should introduce the Lange Seal, as it would really garantee long term confidence in the brand, considering it's a Richemond brand. So Richemond would never be able to mess with Lange in the long run. Somebody - perhaps a well known collector - should pitch this idea to the CEO Wilhelm Schmid.

@JKArcade 4 жыл бұрын

Considering Mike works for Richemont now, you might just ask him to mention it!

@johnnyguitar6697 4 жыл бұрын

Very good, instructive video. Shame A.L&S isn't mentioned, as they have their own finishing techniques, and use German silver for their movements.

@geroldatlarge1841 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all your service Mike Michaels .

@downingbethune8758 Жыл бұрын

Wow, what a great video! I learned more about watch finishing watching this seven minute video than in all the years I've been collecting watches. Thanks!

@robertsullivan4773 4 жыл бұрын

Oh WOW, now I know what Tim is getting all excited about. Very informative Thanks for the lesson.

@supremegalacticcommander2783 4 жыл бұрын

Great information sir, thank you.

@geezer8294 4 жыл бұрын

Come back Mike

@daveopincar2469 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike for the finish lesson. Best of luck in your new indevers.

@PhillyHank 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic!! I love and appreciate these educational videos -- almost as much as I do looking at a wonderfully finished watch. (almost 😊). These videos add time and more joy to my watch watching. What I mean is now that I know more I appreciate more, and then I run to my watch and look for the design and finishing elements you've mentioned. These videos are the most important videos for any watch collector. I read another comment here: "The Classworm Series is 💯." That response summed up all I meant to say in 5 long sentences. Darn. Wish I had just said, " "The Classworm Series is 💯" 😊

@Sams911 Жыл бұрын

I'm beyond impressed with the finish work on the new VC Overseas 5100 movement.. I mean mostly if not all hand finished, Geneva Seal... what else can you ask for? Not just the older VC's but most (pretty much all but some of the ref 56) movements are Geneva Seal ..

@martywinter7399 4 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, this is the best watch decorating video I have ever seen. 👍👍

@TheFriendlyPetChannel Жыл бұрын

My respects to you and your skills taking this artistry up a notch. 💪💪💪

@fabriziodutto7508 3 жыл бұрын

How can a person put a thumb down to this video! No way! Very interesting video, obviously you can't expect to deepen the single process. Next time will be gorgeous to have someone talk about the finishing of the dial.

@OfficialThing2 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Chazz Michael Michaels!!

@checksix_TC 4 жыл бұрын

👏Bravo. Very educational indeed.

@dr.omar.insights2000 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@errolvas6456 Жыл бұрын

This Classroom Series is 💯

@PhillyHank 4 ай бұрын

YES!!! +1

@bigapplenyc9213 4 жыл бұрын

Bravo 👏🏽 thank you!

@TheN91kabbani 4 жыл бұрын

Liking the video before FINISHING it

@jfell567 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video

@officiallordsnowface 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mic-Mic great video!

@brunonjezic6208 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I thought movements are made from brass and stral parts usually and in some cases stainless steel. I know FPJ is one of the rare companies that do all in gold, but i didnt knew about brass

@rarts2000 4 жыл бұрын

Always interesting Mike

@fylke1814 4 жыл бұрын

Love your vids👍

@masqueman01 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@fenilparekh4439 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one!

@watchmakertom1072 4 жыл бұрын

good video about what it is

@theguardian3431 4 жыл бұрын

More of Tim and Mike!

@danginfo 2 жыл бұрын

🤝thank You 👊👍

@tomlucas4269 4 жыл бұрын

Is their a difference between côtes de genève and Genève seal finish?

@melody3741 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: the black that gets reflected comes from the loupe or microscope or sometimes the black part of your eye. It has nothing to do with absorbing light.

@duc696monster6 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I buy perlage equipment?

@rodrigogutierrezreyes4702 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit confused, you mentioned Côtes de Genéve but, the watch shown was an A. Lange & Sohne. Isn't Côtes de Genéve just for watches made in Switzerland or it's just a term to refer to the finishing?

@IVAtheLT 7 ай бұрын

Talks about brass plates, Geneva stripes and the Geneva seal...while showing a lange movement with German silver plates, Glashutte stripes and no Geneva seal 🫣 Good video, just found this funny 😂

@toobalkain 4 жыл бұрын

very interesting but the video would benefit immensely by some macro shots of discussed decorations, not everyone remembers all watchmaking terms so well as to make a mental picture

@operamatthew 3 жыл бұрын

cool dude. i’d love the be stuck at a bar with this guy.

@adlanhaziq 4 жыл бұрын

Best of luck on your new endeavours, Mike!

@ArtBorow 4 жыл бұрын

Are ETA or Selitta simple calibers finished by hand? For example perlage or Côtes de Genève applied on Tag Heuers Caliber 5?

@user-dr7tb4xf4o 4 жыл бұрын

ETA and Sellita are machine finished movements. Additional hand finishing may be applied to them, but I don't think that's the case with Tag Heuer Calibre 5.

@ArtBorow 4 жыл бұрын

@@user-dr7tb4xf4o Do You know aby hand finished affordable movements?

@georgebeckford728 4 жыл бұрын

@@ArtBorow Glashütte Original comes to mind as the most affordable, even though not as much on the most affordable models... Even JLC has mostly mashine-finished applied on more affordable watches. Perhaps used Parmeganis perhaps. But that would be a great question to Tim. I was surprised recently, when he said in the AP Royal Oak vs Grand Seiko video that the Royal Oak movement is mainly mashine-finished as well now even though it earns the Geneva Seal.

@gpearce11 4 жыл бұрын

I’m always intrigued by movements that use different movement finishing, such as De Bethune polishing the entire movement, or other brands using satin brushing instead of cotes de geneve. After all, the purpose of perlage and cotes de geneve was to catch microscopic dust particles that would encroach inside the case of early pocket watches and wrist watches, which is no longer an issue, as everything is at least dust proof as a bare minimum these days.

@ariyas6481 3 жыл бұрын

What's the watch on his arm?

@harrycee656 Жыл бұрын

The stripes can be done by machine now a days. Whether a person or computer makes the machine move it back and forth should be the same IMO.

@bubbab7792 4 жыл бұрын

Mike Micheals is a freaking stud!!!! Outstanding video! I will miss him. 🥃

@ErikS- 4 жыл бұрын

Is this the cool guy that we saw in the first video that the urban gentry made after joining up with watchbox? The man with the white labcoat?

@amintaslneto 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice class!

@gmotionedc5412 3 жыл бұрын

Why start with brass?

@kegluneqs1011 3 жыл бұрын

Brass has many qualities requiered for a movement (softness magnetism cost etc...) But you can have other materials such as gold in F.P Journe or German silver in Lange. Moreover not all the component of a movement are made with brass tou will also find steel (screws), iron alloy (stem), zinc, nickel, tungstene etc...

@matthewhoover6154 4 жыл бұрын

I notice these subtleties in my nicer watches and people think I'm crazy for how much I spend on watches, but the human touch that is added to the piece is meaningful to me. When you say Pealage is hand applied, is this fully hand applied, individually with a hand tool, or done with a power tool by hand?

@ianprice2401 4 жыл бұрын

I think movement finishing is the most interesting part of a watch, and deep striping really moves me, but I'm not a super baller. I'd love to get my hands on some kind of list of the best under-5/10k finishing

@iclogtoilets3483 4 жыл бұрын

TGV needs a role in the classroom series. He has great stories to tell. Watchbox is under using his expertise. Caio

@algorithm007ify 4 жыл бұрын

Sarcasm I hope

@robertsullivan4773 4 жыл бұрын

Comment by TGV

@mark_n_r 5 ай бұрын

Because Harley Davidson is so synonymous with high end watches !!!

@prao4166 4 жыл бұрын

Long overdue video. An aspect of watches that drives cost but not very well understood.

@samadrid6321 4 жыл бұрын

I heard finishes were put on movements to originally collect bits of crud and dust that got caught in the watch before watches could be hermetically sealed.

@johnwayne7476 4 жыл бұрын

That sounds correct. Idk ? Not a watch mechanic or jeweler . I know some about engineering. This sounds like good reckoning. Such is so when one retaps a stripped blind hole out to the next bigger size. One puts common grease on the tap to collect the shavings as the tap cuts them. Otherwise the shavings could damage the bearing surface on critical internal movements in machinery. I have used this process while fixing petro engines . The gap of the stripes would work in much the same manner . It’s gotta go somewhere that’s for sure. I have been told common lighter fluid is very useful when cleaning up corroded watch internals . Place movement in a sonic filled with lighter fluid . Let the vibrations do the work then the excess will vaporize leaving a clean dry internal.

@iSuggestApps 4 жыл бұрын

First

@patricksoos674 4 жыл бұрын

Phinishing my Respektos for you

@BobbyDazzler888 4 жыл бұрын

You came, you saw, you misspelled respectos

@patricksoos674 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry ... I went to Oxley High

@RoelfvanderMerwe 4 жыл бұрын

You have my respect Mr. First Poster

@iSuggestApps 4 жыл бұрын

Roelf van der Merwe thanks ☺️

@robertosanchez4021 4 жыл бұрын

Great input Michael, thanks, so the Geneva seal or the Patek Philippe seal only have to do with finishing and NOT accuracy of the movement?

@the1916company 4 жыл бұрын

Both seals also cover technical mastery and accuracy, finishing is just also a factor in earning the seals!

@josejoaquinmiguel7099 4 жыл бұрын

Where's the zaratsu finishing from GS?

@tomkhong9828 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice video. Rolex is not mentioned here, phew, time to break from the cliche .

@user-wi9nn6dz8w 4 жыл бұрын

Rolex is not mentioned because they're not that interesting in terms of how their movements are finished.

@algorithm007ify 4 жыл бұрын

Parmigiani Fleurier seal > PP seal.

@algorithm007ify 4 жыл бұрын

Watchbox without mike = unwatchable (see what I did there?)

@djkoti74 3 жыл бұрын

Never trust a watchmaker with an Omega Ploprof on his wrist ;)