Yes, but banner 18 might be 10 years away

@@MH-mc3pp 5 weeks away.

Should have kept marcus smart so far holidays a let down bigtime

Imagine this lineup..smart. White..brown..tatum..kp

@@timothycorcoran3613smart got traded for porzingis

Agreed. He slow paces and surveys. JB does this too at times. The ball is better in the hands of jrue, pp or white. Let them playmake. And no more JT/JB jumpers after theu miss a couple. I just want to see drives and cuts or postups.

Agree 100%

ball movement and getting easy baskets. They are easy to defend at times and Tatum takes really hard shots.

@@jay-jay8191he wants to be a hero. Only problem this fool isn’t wearing no cape and he isn’t as good as he thinks he is. How dafuq is he playing 20+% more minutes during the playoffs but his scoring is down +30%? Where is Jayson Tatum? Not present on the court that’s for sure. Look at every other teams starts Jaylen Brunson 2023-2024 reg season ppg 28 playoffs 35.8 Donovan Mitchell 26 ppg reg season 29.4 2024 playoffs Antman 22.9 ppg reg season 32 ppg post season This shit makes no sense. When is he going to show up? So frustrating as a fan.

@@ErnieBert-eg8kd dude your way over critical Tatum is that guy but this team is too talented for him to try to do everything. Antman, Mitchell has to take all those shots but Tatum doesn't have to iso everything. ex 2nd offensive possession of this game as soon as Tatum got ball he hold it d recovered, holiday should have gotten that ball back.

@@jay-jay8191 sounds like you are making excuses for him. He is a certified choker. I don’t trust him In the clutch. He’s a good player. If they win a chip maybe my mind changes.

@@ErnieBert-eg8kd he'll get one n watch out once he gets a taste of it, he will change your mind. as a Celtics fan we've been spoiled n lucky to have this guy. if the stars aligned right we'll be having dif conversations (goat type) with this guy coming in as rookie n going to ECF against Lebron. game 2 was all lack of effort, def n offense was awful.

I can tell you if we don’t get to the finals and get to at least game seven he is probably getting shit canned

JT “made his bone” practicing with Kobe during the off-seasons; this explains why he always goes for spectacular but difficult shots to emulate his idol. While Kobe had Shaq and Gasol and Bynum to cover his back, Jayson has no such luxury; no disrespect to Horford who has always performed above par!

That I agree with.

Or OKC

should we fix you a warm bottle and get you your favorite blankie??

I think you're slightly wrong here. When JTs got 18 its TATUM with a good game. this doesnt necessarily equate to a win or having it. When White or Sam have 18 at that point, this equates to win/having it. Bottomline here, if JT is baited into being a pure scorer (miami game 2, cavs game 2) to the detriment of getting the others unlocked early, we lose. A good white or hauser game typically means a blowout. And the math supports it. Conclusion: dont focus on getting JT going early. Focus on getting white or sam going early. Once they're hitting their 3s, the offense for JT and the others become easier.

@@TheRobversion1 I could see the logic , but it’s definitely flawed …. Sam Hauser having 18 just means he’s got a few good threes …. As we have ALL seen before, THAT does not automatically equate to a win My point here was that the narrative changes according to the outcome , the classic winning solves everything 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@dragonslayerthegod9284 it has led to our most lopsided wins than losses. Even chris forsberg mentions it. White and hauser (to a lesser extent) are the barometers of celtics blowout wins. Not jt, not jb, jrue, not al, not pp. Those 2 ( Kp KP is a far 3rd). What this essentially means in practice is when the the Js are looking to score, the pace slows down, the others get frozen out, theres less threats on the floor, theres less in double figures (see game 2). When white and/or Sam are hot, this means that the offense is being run (god knows sam sucks at creating for himself), the pace is faster (hello d.white mr. 0.5 basketball) and theres multiple players in double figures (the Js get theirs even when hauser/white are hot, just not as much as when they shot hunt). i did Get your point about how the narrative changes. That wasnt what i was speaking on. What i was pointing out that JT having 18 by the 1st half isnt a good CELTICS game. Its just a good JT game. Thats why i said i only slightly disagree. I actually agree with your main point. I was just pointing out a nuance in the initial paragraph.

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You dont need dawg to win. Thats a stupid narrative. Timmy won. Hakeem won. Jokic won. However, if you arent a dawg you have to play smart like Timmy. You cant win without being a dawg or being smart . Thing is JT sometimes devolves into dumb basketball. He shows signs of getting out of it then as soon as the media and internet trolls criticize him for not scoring enough, he goes back to dumb basketball. JT is not an alpha scorer. And he will never be. Its not his best skillset. Hes a do it all forward more in the mold of pippen, kawhi, grant hill, draymond. The more he accepts this and lets the better scorers on the team score, then he will win a chip. Spo knows this. JB bickerstaff copied it. The way you make JT play dumb is you bait him into being a scorer. It takes away JTs strengths. JTs biggest strength on offense is being able draw 2 and find the open man (essentially the point forward described above). Once he plays dumb and tries to do it himself/get himself going, he freezes everyone out because he takes too long to get going/slows the pace down. TL:DR: we arent winning with JT as the #1 option. We are winning if hes a #2-#3.

@@TheRobversion1 I think your mistaking what guys like Duncan and Jokic are. Just because they aren’t vocal doesn’t mean they’re not dawgs… Those guys are all about business not an ounce of softness, how many times do you see joker complaining to the refs?? How often did Duncan disappear in big games?? The issue is JT just doesn’t lack Dawg he’s soft can’t win with his mentality…

@@champchamp3745 i think you and i just have different definitions. Think of it this way, dawg is physical, aggressive emotions. What you're describing is more mental stuff (the thinking man's game). The guys mentioned arent expressive. They dont bark. They dont taunt. They dont demand the ball (like a dawg would do like kobe). What timmy, jokic and hakeem understand and do is they beat the opponent as a team. They outthink them, they play the decoy, they direct traffic (tell people where to go instead of asking for the ball and taking the shot). They are mentally resilient (smart/soft) vs. determined to win/wants the moment (dog). Think how many game-winners timmy/hakeem/jokic have. Compare them to guys like mj, kobe, etc. Then think how many times have the teammates of those players got game winners or those players have been praised for making the right read on offense. Then think of how often guys lik kobe have been praised for making the right read. These are personality traits. You can look it up in Sports Psychology. As a spurs fan, i can say Duncan disappeared alot in big games offensively. You know what didnt disappear? Him giving the game what it needs. Whether thats a pass out of the post, the hockey assist, the screen assist, crashing the board for a backbreaking putback... These are what made timmy special. Its not because he was an alpha scorer. It was because he gave the game what it needs and did things outside scoring that contribute to winning. And yes as a spurs fan, i've heard so many times that timmy got called for being soft (usually lakers fans). So yeah, being soft is fine. I understood that timmy is indeed a finesse (soft) player. But i understood eventually you dont have to be a dawg to win. You can be smart. So JT can win even if hes soft. He just has to be smart. He doesnt have to force himself to be what he really isnt: a dawg, an alpha scorer, etc. He can be like timmy, hakeem and jokic and win.

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