good times

"he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor."

I was there at Greenbox ground zero and everything in this vid was incredibly comprehensive and unbiased. I didn't even realise how egregious the zone manipulating was, or that he CHEATED MY MAP. Awesome stuff as always htwo

"I felt entitled to those times because I had the skill to get them" This little insidious sentence carries all the merit as it shows exactly why and how even the best of the best manage to lose their integrity.

I love how there is so much to rocketjumping that it can honestly be its own game.

think what strikes me about this video is how human Boshy feels in the end, despite feeling like some sort of larger-than-life God at the beginning. at first when the video revealed he was caught cheating i was expecting it to go a la Dream where they dig their heels into the ground, but Boshy transparently admitting why he did what he did and moving forward from it is a dose of honesty that feels missing from the way a lot of people handle these things.

I still have a pair of vintage gunboats signed by boshy way before the cheating allegations as I enjoyed jumping and boshy was the best I feel like its a neat mark of history, "boshy's gunboats" with the desc "signed before the incident" I enjoy his tempus jumps to this day despite the cheating, I don't support cheating but I also don't see why I can't watch his amazing movement from time to time The gunboats will never be sold and is one of my prized possessions, definitely worth the key I gave to get it signed

Damn, that was a real rollercoaster. Went from rooting for Boshy to despising him, to hoping he learns from his mistakes and gets his redemption arc.

I think deleting all of his past records regardless of their legitimacy was the best move. It seems that this was a wakeup call he needed and I don't expect him to cheat again because of how self aware he is about it.

Good work! Few minor corrections/precisions: 3:25 - Pretty sure Vice came up with that strat, not Boshy. Also Boshy got a 2:11 offline run on the map last year, which completely blows the 2:18 out of the water. 4:56 - What you show here is not a bhop but an uncrouched bounce. At that height, uncrouched bounces are a lot easier and safer than bhops because the timing window for your input is significantly bigger. 5:46 - Tempus Cup was essentially a rebranding of Beginnings. It had the same format/rules, a lot of the same contributors, just under a new administration. It’s basically BG7. 6:58 - If we want to be picky, it’s 1/66.666… of a second, or 0.015 seconds. 7:53 - Wrong definition of jumpbug. A jumpbug is uncrouching+jumping on same tick. Pretty much everyone (including Boshy) just put those 2 inputs (-duck;+jump) on a single key, so it’s virtually the same as a bhop in terms of execution, it's just a single tick perfect input. So for when b5, no it’s not 16 tick perfect inputs, it’s still 8. However, current WR by sx extends the sequence of jumpbugs further to skip the drop pogo, making it 10 tick perfect inputs. It's also worth noting that Boshy first got super dominant on Tempus thanks mostly to his wallpogo skills, he got way better at it than everyone else at the time, and since demo maps as soldier are usually mostly wallpogo, he got a buttload of points by getting and keeping wr on pretty much all wallpogo maps on Tempus. He eventually branched out to more conventional soldier maps as well, and ended up being just as dominant on those, but this happened a bit later in his career.

2:06 I'm so cool! 😎

Great video. Been part of the jump community for over a decade, made maps, and fizzled out. Glad to see so many people watching the thing that I've had endless love for.

would you ever consider doing more videos of top jumpers in the future? this was awesome :)

randomly ran into this video, I can say that this is well done, good job and thank you for researching, compiling, writing, editing, and sharing this story of history, it may seem insignificant in the grand scheme, but what you made still matters, after all its a show of your effort, and that is priceless.

Saw this come up in chat while watching a jumping stream. I got to learn about Boshy's shenanigans from friends who are/were jump admins, so I am seriously impressed to learn even more from this video. It was also very well researched, paced, and put together. Bonus points for staying objective! Well done :)

Great video! It's really nice to have the history of Boshy in a video format, both because of how interesting it is and because It's way easier to access information about the whole story this way.

Thank you very much for making this video, it's great to see some quality jumping lore! I have a few little things to add: 1) 3:17 - and he actually got a 2:11 offline run on this map 2 years later! 2) During the first ban all of Boshy's bonus times were wiped, only map and course times were left. After that he was still extremely far ahead on the soldier leaderboard by more than 100k (maybe even 150k, don't remember exactly) points. 3) After the full wipe the community made a list of Boshy WRs for reference. I think it's quite a thing on tempus network right now to try to beat those WRs :) Currently there are 40 WRs left to beat, including offline runs and some demoman WRs. Some of them (like apex) are very close to unbeatable. 4) 22:32 - it was not just his first time set, it was his first RUN in the tournament after a small start reset.

hey dude i know your probably not gonna see this video but youre one of my favourite youtubers ever and you got me into tf2 and i just wanna say keepup the good work dude

whats worse is that he is that incredible at rocket jumping, it was realistically just technicalities for world record times and not bothering to work as hard on a map as he could have also, love the twangs of outer wilds music that were subtle at the end! it sparked in my brain the moment i realised what it was

Because of the quality of your videos I'm always surprised that there's not 1.2 mil views off the bat

Wonderful video! I'm really glad you have made Boshy's history in a video format, as more people outside of jump may find it interesting and also It's way more accessible to both people who jump and those who don't.

As someone who knew NOTHING about the scene or this entire story, despite being into rocket jumping, I really appreciate how objective you were and how you aimed to tell the story as it happened.

Oh man... the rocket jump maps were really the evolutions from the conc jumping maps from original TF. The demand for fun skill-based tech, (like surf in CS even), has been high for most valve games. This was a great montage and mini-documentary.

i had no idea rocket jumping had this type of lore, great video!

myself spotted at 1:41 i made it pog more jump history videos please this was so good

OUTSTANDING video, i love the style of editing and script writing you have, very nice to watch

Love this style of video. Really shows the lengths you go to to make this high quality content. Keep up the good work my man!

I liked the video, the edits, music, sound effects, video clips and just the whole story of boshy, I felt that I really learned something and this is the first time I cam across this channel and I love these type of story commentaries. You are heavily underrated

Enrapturing video on a small but dedicated community. I’m impressed by how Boshy has been able to come clean and keep on jumping, I hope he is able to come back to earning world records and accept that he can’t always win them all.

Very interesting story. It’s nice to see a cheater actually admitting that they did it, accepting the punishment and retribution, having actual plausible reasoning for why they did it that doesn’t sound them just making things up to get forgiveness, AND having the actual skills to still claim WRs without cheating, just with a little more grinding.

Okay guys, i see a lot of people praising how he handled the situation. But here is the timeline: Boshy denied everything at first. Then when more evidence came, he said he only cheated a few bonuses. Then when more evidence came, he admitted to cheating many bonuses but only bonuses. Then a looong time after that (and more evidence), he finally admits cheating courses as well.

Oh God more jumping videos please this was amazing. Good structure to it, good flow, well spoken. Nice video brother

Beautiful video about jumping combined with the calamity soundtrack gives me a feeling I can't describe. Very good video!

this is such a good video. easily one of my favorite tf2 video essays i’ve seen!!

That thumbnail looks very familiar... I will be sending my lawyers. Jokes aside, this was a great video, nice job man.

Simply put there exists a conflict of interest between Boshy as a player and Boshy as an admin.

great video! shame you're british :(

I actually recall this when i read almost the full story on jumptf forum during COVID year (obviously). My favorite one was the fact about reero's entire video about this incident (mostly "the ballad of the boshy" titled). About his rng bhop statement. This is similar to how Minecraft speedrunner would ended up cheating because it's greatly involved based on luck. Anyway, nice to have this uploaded. My favorite jump content creator so far! ^^

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

Absolutely fantastic, high quality content as always. I always look forward to an upload, never know what I'm gonna get but it never disappoints.

Awesome video essay Awesomely laid out and even though I’m not even involved in TF2 or the community, I loved watching this and you kept it interesting the whole way though! Thanks!

You can say that one may Wanna Be The Boshy

Amazing video!! I actually was grinding a lot on tempus maps when all of this happened , so I already knew almost all of the story, but it felt great watching and hearing everything you told in the video, specially the boshy's thoughts part. Love rocket jumping and thus is part of the history of it.

I love how much Risk of Rain 2, Terraria, and Calamity Mod's music is being used in videos. They all make such amazing music and I'm glad they get the recongnition they deserve. Also, great video!

how do small tf2 youtubers create the best, most interesting and well made videos on random, niche topics like this. incredible

"I wanna be the Boshy"

this sounds like some shit that king candy from wreck it ralph would do

This was an awesome video. Nicely done!

It's Boshy Time!

"Rank number one isn't an achievement, it's a prison which forces you to dedicate your to life to defending a temporary title." -Technoblade

Damn, you just like Sherlock! This is amazing. Thanks for the greatest content

reminds me of riolu a trackmania player that was on top of the game, even got hired by the developpers to set some pro times for players to beat turns out he was slowing down the game using cheat engine in some of the runs, but unlike Boshy, he vanished kind of ruined the "accessibility" side of the game since now you need to apply a patch to it

man I love your videos, too bad britain doesn't exist

I love and appreciate how you portrayed Boshy as not a character in a story, but a real human that deserves to be treated like one. Too many stories of 'legends' in a community portray them as something larger than life and it's easy to worship them by the end of the video or demonize them. You did a great job at showing what happened, making Boshy still feel human by the end, and have the viewer accept everything that has happened yet still hope for something better in the future. Fantastic video, hope you make more of these.

I can relate with his explanation. I do stuff with that in singleplayer games like terraria all the time, and at first you say to yourself "oh i'll just do it once". Then it becomes an addiction

Great video, it's insane just how dominant boshy was, at one point, he had 300k points on just soldier, which was almost 200k over second place... not to mention he was also one of the top demo jumpers. By the way, he also reran jump_jurf offline just like apex, his time offline was actually 2:11

Going through the comments on this video is some hard nostalgia. Lotta familiar faces here.

This man needs a guiness record page

That why NEVER give admin to the best player

you should make a video about DonnySS, the worst rocket jumper of all time

This man's track record of world records reads like a description of the feats of a mythological demigod, not some dude playing a now 16 year old game.

(3:42) Music played here is Crabulon's theme from the Calamity mod for Terraria, for those wondering. Also good vid!

Dude just wants to win at all costs, can we all at least agree he was determined to win. WRs drive people mad is the moral of the story.

With how good they seem to be, and how well they seem to have introspected to be able to explain exactly why they cheated, I think that they could make a comeback and earn some trust again. Only time will tell, though.

I love Boshy The Jump anime. Thanks for covering it.

"The source engine is home to some of the best and most skill-expressive movement in all of gaming" It's also home to some of the most baffling spaghetti in all of gaming, but that's neither here nor there.

this is the main reason im scared to start speed running seriously, but mad respect for admitting to all of it and being cooperative in the end

Man shoutout to Boshy for owning up to the little demon we all have inside of us. And shoutout to Htwo for this summary

I love this story as it shows what actually happens in our world. Boshy getting legit #1 on Tempus put a lot of pressure on him and I think he only needed some moral support. It's sad that he chose the wrong path but I still love his story, him admitting to allegations yet still not leaving the game but take it less seriously. I hope Boshy gets another legit #1 and that he'd keep it for much longer, if hes not going to get bored

Lot's of little things off with this video, most importantly for me is not pointing out that the main reason why Boshy was so dominant for most of the years he was top ranked was because he was the best at Wallpogo which means he got free wrs on hundreds of demo map. Take out the demo maps and he wouldn't have been ranked number 1 for so long. Nowadays he is exceptional in all Rocket jumping techniques, but certainly not when, say when Minty was rank 2 Soldier jumper. Overall I appreciate this video as there aren't many going over Rocket jumping history on KZfaq (if any at all), but to me there's enough wrong with the information being spread here that I wish a better video was made instead.

Rocket/explosive weapon jumping is such a good tech that EVERY good combat game has it.

Thank you for giving the long form commentary videos the jumping community needs!

Man, what an amazing storytelling! The setup, the unwrapping, the downfall, and the redemption.

The fact he knows where he went wrong shows he meditated on it and learned. Thats a nice conclusion to the story

"Now, it wouldn't be right to make a video like this without actually talking to the person that the video is about." Good man. Good. Bloody. Man.

Great video! This has needed to exist for a long time now and you did a great job of being objective but also entertaining. Also since it wasn't made super clear in this video, after boshy's original 3 month ban quite a few months passed where he was unbanned and actively playing on tempus setting new wrs. During this time period he had no admin powers so it would have been basically impossible to cheat map wrs (was banned from playing bonuses). Also during this time he would set his all of his most prestigious wrs offline (apex, jurf, jurf2, omega, rebound and gateway etc.), and as these runs were streamed we can say with 100% confidence they weren't cheated (incase anyone was wondering). These runs are also considered to be his most 'unbeatable' wrs, and are so far ahead of the community's general skill level it's honestly insane. Also in terms of being the most prolific cheater I'd actually argue that the demo player Jorge cheated far more than boshy, with 50+ cheated bonus wrs I believe (mostly using macros to bhop and some people believe to triple pre too). Maybe a good follow up to this video :P

Quite a sad story, really.

this is such a great video, man. thank you for making this

Absolutely amazing video. The effort that went into this is insane. I didn't know, that this happend, thank you!

This kind of essay is incredibly important for the gaming community as a whole. Thank you for putting so much effort into it. You're doing great, and as a communicator I am glad to see you addressing every fallacy when judging things like this.

I definitely think that his skill is highly impressive, which nobody wouldn't say that. However him not only abusing admin power to cheat but most of all; blocking people because they are threatening his times shows a serious flaw in character that I hope he reflects on if he hasn't.

just here to comment to help this in the algorithm :p also cuz it's really cool to see this covered, as someone who always watches Rocket Jump Weekly vids cheers !

i've been waiting for jumper documentaries for like 6 years it's finally happening

The research, presenting was godlike tier in this video! love it.

Rocket jumping is cool but I only know how to jump up

I liked the part where boshy said, if given the opportunity he'll likely cheat again.

Damn, music from Furi, Bastion, Celsete, Rain World, AND Outer Wilds in this video? Always good to see those games get some recognition, especially for their soundtracks!

His redemption arc is just perfect. He was the best, but got caught cheating, which completely nullified his records, his reputation and absolutely kicked him out from world records, but he got back by dominating a competition with his own unrivaled skill. Anime plot worth

Really good and objective Video. *Spoiler ig* I think the descision to whipe all his records is justified, but I also hope Boshy proves he is able to change and regains trust

I am a little flabbergasted this guy is allowed to eventually come back at all and is even welcome at tournaments. As you say yourself, speedrun communities like these are entirely trust-based and after stuff like this you are done for good if you ask me.

As someone who has watched a lot various speed running scenes, (not someone who has any stakes in TF2 or rocket jumping) I knew immediately that Boshy was cheating. The unfortunate reality is, like Boshy said, this isn't as uncommon as you'd think. From Monkey Ball to Portal map a sizable chunk of the top runners of the past ended up cheating for generally the same reason. "I don't like X about the game and seeing as I could get WR through enough attempts I just cheated." Once they crack the cheating bottle open, its hard to stop. The pressure to maintain the top can cause people to crack. As for the scorched-earth approach: that's standard practice. In fact, compared to other games, Boshy got off pretty light. Single cheated runs have had people banned permanently. An 18 month ban and a record wipe is not only a slap on the wrist by any stretch of the imagination, but many other communities would have completely cut him out of it. I am all for giving people a second chance though, so I respect the admins decisions to not make it permanent. If Boshy is as talented as he seems from this video, he'll get those WRs again without cheating.

Most cheaters in general always try to deflect and deny at first, but from what you explained Boshy admitted to it the moment he was caught. And him explaining how the superiority complex got to him really makes me feel like he is a good guy that just went on a power trip. Of course I don’t know him personally so I can’t be certain but it IS clear he does have the skill to obtain world records. And from what I know he hasn’t done any BS like harass others online so overall I hope he does well.

A tale as old as speedrunning time. Someone who's good at the game get's frustrated with RNG related mechanics and just can't find joy in it. Boshy let the admin position get to their head and let the power corrupt them. It's a pretty common story when it comes to speedrunning and competitions. It always sucks to hear that a top runner eventually ends up cheating as opposed to someone who's always cheated, because we all know that the skilled player can get those times, but can't handle the grind anymore or are tired of RNG dependent areas of a run. "Speedrunners don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster" was a saying I heard from Karl Jobst. A lot of runners have the skill, but RNG dependent areas of the game suck away the fun of the game, and eventually they resort to cheating to manipulate RNG so they can get the run they know they can achieve when RNG decides to work for them. While some people like it, it's not exactly uncommon to feel frustrated at RNG mechanics. Boshy edited the maps and it was wrong. I'm glad that he was upfront about it, and has shown in live footage to actually be as good as he says he is. He just cracked under the pressure and did some dumb shit. As long as the dude admits to it and changes, then there is redemption there. It'd be pretty sad to just strike all his times down because it would also come off as admins being upset or potentially wanting to remove them so other people can take those WRs from Boshy.

The idea of RNG making one feel entitled is incredibly relatable. I've been speedrunning a game recently where I get all kills in a certain level before leaving. Occasionally I will get a situation where I have an amazing time but the kill counter is stuck at 99%. Almost every time this has happened I go searching for what enemy is left and it is always this one enemy who gets stuck in a room on the way to where the final fight is held and I lose what would be a personal best time because of random pathing. I've always just reset my run and try again (I eventually did get a good time) but I can 100% understand how someone might feel this situation is unfair and use a cheat to just...delete that one enemy.

The Boshy situation is kinda similar to Billy Mitchell where he actually did have the skill (beating Pac-Man) but let the fame get to his head and went through the cheating route. Difference being Billy tried to prove his innocence and even went into legal proceedings.

free my man

boshy simply was so good that he was given admin and with that new found power was able to things nobody else could do

The "what's a yiff?" killed me lmao

i wanna be the boshy

this video is wrong its not about me