HUGE Double Line Drain!!! Schluter Kerdi-Line Installation

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Installing a Schluter Kerdi Line drain is no simple task, and when you install two in the same shower (over 8' of drain), many considerations need to be taken. In a double line drain installation, it is very important to get the placement correct and use the correct methods to ensure a waterproof installation.
I also show how to float a shower floor, which is a widely used method for making a floor flat and level. It is very important to make the floor flat and level before you lay the tile.
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@erikvieira844 4 жыл бұрын

Issac is a quintessential professional. He is passionate about his work, has a thorough knowledge about his trade, is constantly learning, pays attention to detail, honors his customers, and shares his knowledge and experience.

@emilcioran8873 Жыл бұрын

I love seeing a contractor doing his job properly. There are very few of people like you. I have a summer house in southern europe (built 10 years ago) and I have spent 3 years of my life fixing huge amount of faults in showers, kitchen, walls, ventilation, plumbing, electricity and heat collectors. And I am not half way through reparation process.

@coopertown7867 3 жыл бұрын

Love seeing somebody not afraid of hard work AND not willing to take short cuts👍👍👍👍

@ameyers67 4 жыл бұрын

I remember watching Michael Byrne videos when I was a young man. 25 years ago. Things have definitely changed since then.

@SEPNWMAN 2 жыл бұрын

"Hard work" has been vilified in todays world! I've been on the dumb end of a shovel and the smart end of a business. Much more gratification at the end of a day of labor! Great video!!

@matthewpicklesimer293 Жыл бұрын

Your Transparency Makes You Shine Brighter Issac..God Bless You Sir..!❤

@ericdruba5813 Жыл бұрын

Great idea filling body of drain with thinset. Makes a lot of sense

@b00dah1 4 жыл бұрын

Issac, you are truly the man. I appreciate your willingness to teach and your honesty. You're a great man to evidently has integrity to spare. Keep on doing you sir.

@paultrapanese1721 3 жыл бұрын

That was great! I love all the warts, like a misplaced rag and kneeling on the mud. Just starting using a laser. I feel like I’m on the job watching myself. I’m 68 and still tiling and enjoying it. So may you have a long and successful career!

@ChicklyFarms 2 жыл бұрын

bold and stubborn here to get comprehensive understanding of slope and setup of linear drains... Thank you!

@WillLeingang 4 жыл бұрын

“I love a hard days work” well done

@Pje3ski Жыл бұрын

It is fun to watch the skill of a professional.

@alexnez1008 3 жыл бұрын

I've been using hot glue and blue tape a ton lately. Tape a strip of blue tape to the top of your level. Hot glue a leveling clip to the blue tape and mark your laser refrence on it so you have your screed refrence on your level. It works perfect. When your done you've just got to undo the blue tape and you've still got a clean level. 👌🤓

@alexnez1008 3 жыл бұрын

Essentially your eliminating juggling tools.

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 3 жыл бұрын

Isaac, fantastic tutorial and commentary. Cannot see how anyone could replicate that quality of floor with foam. I think a DIYer would be in all sorts of pain with foam.

@AngelGarcia-iz1gm 4 жыл бұрын

he is a great teacher it is appreciated that he teaches I learn something news

@stevenwinklepleck8395 Жыл бұрын

You make me want to float all my floors! too bad it's just never feasible for us because builders never account for it here. I guess I'll have to make it a point to make sure it's a detail included in the plans for my house whenever I get around to building it lol.

@iilijah 4 жыл бұрын

Another nice job. Back when I was doing tile, we used the redwood strip for the walls and counter top steel edge for the floors. Since it was only an stamped steel it left very little void in the floor. And they were only a few feet long.

@Aepek 4 жыл бұрын

Can’t believe I forgot to like & comment 🤦🏼‍♂️ Been so busy lately, sorry bro😊 Great vid, as always. Love the attention to detail, listening to what customers want & work with them.....& take pride in the work you do. Really like how you “float” the floors with deck & fat mud, really makes for a nice level floor (also like when float walls, cuz no such thing as a “level” wall) & looks superb. Cheers✌🏼

@jd5548 3 жыл бұрын

Great work. I haven't heard "fat mud" in a long time. You're oldschool too.

@Rayram555 4 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this video. Looks so good when a pro does it. Thank you.

@lucianoraygoza6645 4 жыл бұрын

Shout out to you guys in Sacramento all the way from Dallas Texas love your videos I want to see more mud jobs out this way

@danielmumby1525 2 жыл бұрын

I’m from Downunder & the available product options, as well as installation methods definitely vary here. I just finished installing 2 x Bellessi Shower over Tile Trays, and their tray drains are screwed straight into the plumbing fittings, removing that as a point of failure. Keen to get tiling finished so that I can admire my handiwork (and have a shower- that outdoor “hanging bag is getting ‘old’)

@newenglandframer 4 жыл бұрын

Another great job! You make it look so easy. Doing this stuff daily I know the hard work involved.

@ronmcgowan 3 жыл бұрын

You always do fantastic videos. As a DIY, I appreciate the time you put into your videos. Can you share with us the make/model of the laser level you used? Sounds like you are really happy with it. Thx

@ameyers67 4 жыл бұрын

You do good work Isaac.

@rebecas5528 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting these training videos. You are a great coach..very detailed indeed.

@user-km8qd7vy8s 4 жыл бұрын

Walkie talkies... now that's a pro move

@jokerorthethief 4 жыл бұрын

thats the receiver for his wireless mic for recording audio for the video, not a walkie talkie.

@douglasdailey5998 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff man. I was into this video all the way.

@QuontumGnosis 3 жыл бұрын

Nice float job my braddah🤙🏼 Right on for keeping the trade alive. Like they say bro, there is only one way that is the right way. Aloha...

@marknaugle3832 4 жыл бұрын

Workin hard and getting some accomplished... Hell yeah. Looks great man!

@jconlfe 3 ай бұрын

I never set my linear drain with foam,thin-set doesn’t really stick properly to the metal on the bottom of the drain body. I always use Drypack cement to level that subfloor along the the linear drain

@hondatec007 3 жыл бұрын

You need to have a basic title to these projects... I cannot find after any videos after this one. Would love to see the finished project.

@adamames6907 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Isaac i appreciate your wealth of knowlede and sharing it all with everyone. Ive noticed in your videos you almost always end with saying "I love you". That makes me think maybe you have a relationship with Jesus Christ, the savior of all humanity. I only say this because I love you, and if what i said is true, then you know what i mean. If not, then i just want to say that Christ is in love with you, and He has a plan and purpose for you. He is calling you, better to give Him your life asap then to wait it out. So back to the trades, I love your attention to detail, as i am cut from the same cloth. Your knowledge in the videos you have put out has helped me tremendously, especially with floating. I have been in the trades for 20 years and specifically the shower build/ tile trade predominantly the past 6 years. Your videos have helped me a ton, and i appreciate what you do. They have helped me learn how to float like a proffesianal! Keep doing what you do and keep it 100! Love you man!

@AaronC22-t5q 7 ай бұрын

Nice and get you some...

@willmccutcheon5049 3 жыл бұрын

That's a beautiful sight.

@johnwagner846 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the video but why did you mud the floor level with the existing tile? If you're tiling the bathroom there will be a 3/8" lip. What am I missing?

@williamsauder1823 4 жыл бұрын

Float looks good👍👍

@francoistardif7882 Жыл бұрын

Amazing videos, love it. Do you have brands of fat mud and deck mud that you recommend and know are available in Canada?

@aaronpaddock846 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video bro... as always. Odd question, but what shoes are you sportin? I'm diggin them!

@joeoathkeepernuno7086 4 жыл бұрын

Outstanding brother.

@infectedpuddle1638 2 жыл бұрын

I've done bigger. My biggest pan was 90 sqft, with 2 linear drains and heat mats.....TAKE THAT!!!

@waysaunut 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video, I set my laser to the top of my level

@jonathonfrederick2062 4 жыл бұрын

Another nice video, Thanks Isaac!

@fgbestwayInc 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job ,thanks for all your videos ,very helpful, this similar of what we do in my country Peru. I have a question about curing time and the tile installation over the new concrete bed, I hear a lot about of this all the time "Tiling should begin within approximately 16 hours of the mortar bed installation. After 24 hours, the mortar bed enters a green state and should not have tile adhered to it for 28 days.) back when I was living in peru I never here about this ,my brother are concrete guys and they never mention it, and the other thing is about red guard over this concrete bed ,should this concrete cure 28 days before red guard be install ?. Thanks again for your videos, I subscribed to your channel your videos are awesome.

@travisk5589 4 жыл бұрын

Back to the x5. Scary😮

@cbyoung9790 6 ай бұрын

I'm doing a double shower head in a custom shower that is about 4' wide by 9' long, my question is can you join 2 kerdi shower pans together or can i do 2 48"x48" kerdi shower pans under each shower heads?

@jonathansage2147 7 ай бұрын

DIYer here, so forgive me if this is ignorant, could you put down self leveler first and then use two foam shower pans side by side?

@amariza21 4 жыл бұрын

Good job issac like always 👌🏽

@mikegezz 3 жыл бұрын

geeez this was beautiful and interesting. And i’m not even tiling anything

@davidluiz1822 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your great video tutorials. Truly amazing! But I'm puzzled about the function of the Kerdi-Line foam carrier. It seems that being foam, it's intended to act as an uncoupling component between the subfloor and the line drain /membrane. If that's true, then filling the underside with thin-set as you've shown seems to defeat the purpose of the foam carrier. Perhaps its purpose is to simple space the drain off the subfloor? What am I missing?

@marcinwolczek4314 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work

@Wis650 4 жыл бұрын

Great work guys 👍

@KyleBruns 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid Isaac.

@antoniomessina6344 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome work

@JB_58008 4 жыл бұрын

14:50 couldn't have said it better myself

@Stansphotos1 Жыл бұрын

Did you install the Ditra heat next and then Kerdi fabric over that?

@michaelfarmer2245 4 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't you waterproof the floor? How is thin set on top of plywood going to give you a water barrier

@Art416 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video looks fire.. what should I use to seal slate? Thank you

@williamsauder1823 4 жыл бұрын

Try a guageing trowell,you can use the whole side of it,instead of playing around with the front of that helper tool

@BigMac4Oakland 3 жыл бұрын

can you tell me where you got the metal straight edge from? Loved your video, helped me a lot. building my own walk-in shower Schlüter 48" drain tomorrow. But I am doing hydronic floor heating though.

@vincentcottrell5726 3 жыл бұрын

Top Tile Guy!!

@josephsmyth7334 Жыл бұрын

Is there a reason why water proof wasn’t put underneath

@lennyg1523 3 жыл бұрын

FINISHED PRODUCT ?? B NICE TO SEE TOO

@DavidGreen31 4 жыл бұрын

This video was just what I was looking for - great timing! One question, where the deck mud meets the Kerdi line drain, how thick is the mud? If the kerdi line drain is 3/4”, but you take off 1/4” for the dittra heat, is the minimum thickness of the deck mud preslope 1/2”? I’m thinking about doing almost exactly this case DIY, and have discovered there isn’t any code requirement on the thickness or material of the preslope, only that it needs to have a minimum slope of 1/4” per foot. So my question is basically what you think about how thin the deck mud preslope can be up against the drain (on a second floor bathroom on plywood subfloor). Thanks, and keep the great content coming!

@nkyryry 4 жыл бұрын

I always think water should drain away from walls (middle of the shower). Just seems like you’re asking for trouble draining all the water towards one wall.

@alllmas 4 жыл бұрын

It's designed that way. In the middle it's kinda ugly

@ThielTube 4 жыл бұрын

So as i agree with your statement but technically... they don't slope all the way to the way to the wall or they are not supposed to . there would be a small slope from the wall to the drain in the opposite direction so any water that flows down the wall will be directed into the drain as well. my thing is i am sketched out how he uses chicken wire in the floor.. that stuff is very weak and doesn't have the strength of extruded metal sheets. this seems to be a California thing because here in the east coast i have never seen anything like that

@paulvieth2906 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a video how to retro fit into an existing bathroom and lower the shower wubfloor while maintaining structural integraity ?

@MrTooTechnical 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Maybe next time you could red guard the floor around the drain on the bare plywood. Then set your drains. That way there is a 2nd layer of protection. I am always scared of linear drains on plywood floors. There is so little waterproofing around the perimeter of linear drains. Extra cost up front saves thousands later in call backs.

@samsmith3025 4 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't bond properly, Ive seen Redguard peel like an orange.

@thegodalbert9871 4 жыл бұрын

He will more than likely cover everything in ardex 8+9 so I don’t think the drain area will be lacking any water proofing on top of the detra heat mat

@user-km8qd7vy8s 4 жыл бұрын

You just described a moisture sandwich. Only one waterproof layer or you're asking for trouble

@MrTooTechnical 4 жыл бұрын

Waterproofing is needed. No mold sandwich vs rotten plywood. Lol

@alllmas 4 жыл бұрын

Very bad idea man. You'll hear from your customers in the future with callbacks.

@victorcaldwell2900 3 жыл бұрын

Do you worry about the bond breaking from the plywood? Wouldnt coating it in red guard before thin setting it down be a good idea to ensure that never happens?

@adamberezow5957 3 жыл бұрын

There is no bond with the plywood underneath, nor is there supposed to be one. The chicken wire is stapled down on top of the AquaBarB and it is essentially old school ditra mat. The staples are like the felt of ditra mat. That’s where the movement between the subfloor and mudbed is absorbed. If you bond solidly to the subfloor you actually make the floor more susceptible to cracking from movement. With ditra mat installed on top of this floor, it will survive an earthquake.

@luislucas7017 4 жыл бұрын

Hey I’m 22 years old, I’m a tile setter here in Charlotte, North Carolina and I’m a big fan. I’ve made it my goal to one day have my own company, shop, and crews. I have no doubt in my mind that I’ll get there but I would really appreciate your help. I would like to know your story, your ups and downs the good the bad and the ugly because I know a smart man learns from his mistake but a wise man learns from other’s mistakes. I would really like to talk to you whenever you have a chance, your advice would be invaluable to me. Thank you in advance

@crazyeyes19523 4 жыл бұрын

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@chrisfield1095 2 жыл бұрын

So your comfortable floating mud down to 3/4” over plywood subfloor? Just curious, I’m doing a similar application right now and I have reservations about floating deck mud that thin over pkywood

@vitaliydiyguy7570 2 жыл бұрын

I like ur window 🪟 cover 😉😅 yeah that usually stops Inspections lol I don’t think ppl should be using fat and deck mud if they don’t know what it is 😅 unless that’s how u get this jobs 🤨

@jamesokeeffe3216 2 жыл бұрын

Timber floor for a shower where is the water proofing?

@willaimfranklin9653 3 жыл бұрын

What were the black strips you set the first screed with....? Great job

@maxplant6926 4 жыл бұрын

Man, that's really incredible work.

@michaels840 4 жыл бұрын

What thinset compound are you working with? what is the working time? How much compound can you use without issue, how thick can you get it without cracking, deformation?

@whitneyross5108 2 жыл бұрын

Did you use the kerdi line - fc to connect the two drains and if so how does that piece work?

@zathoraus 4 жыл бұрын

Should the subfloor been have been red gaurded?

@kaleip 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a minimum thickness in the deck mud for floating a floor? I have a high spot in wood sub floor and I don't think hardi board will work just want to know how much so I need to be above that high spot

@HiTwinky69 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. So without weap holes on the drain will the floating still get saturated

@Slim-Pickens 4 жыл бұрын

Waterproofing goes on top of the deck mud.

@RiverrRiverr 4 жыл бұрын

It shouldn't since he'll be putting kerdi liner down on top of the mud, the liner bonds to the flanges on the drain. All possible water will still end up in the drain.

@VictorSanchez-lz9we 4 жыл бұрын

Like your videos! Good work! I would still prefer a waterproof membrane it being a membrane liner or hot mop under the shower deck mud area no matter what other product you use on top of the deck mud. Your a good installer, tile work is an art! From the preparation all the way to the finish product for true Craftsman!

@codyrobison6817 4 жыл бұрын

The beautiful thing about kerdi build a pan achieve your overlaps and your good

@imrank546 Жыл бұрын

Hi Issac -- Where can I buy the foam for the linear drain?

@cakampe 4 жыл бұрын

wow 9ft for that couple building a shower as they age? Also just curious what is the average cost of this master bath/shower

@donaldtrump5386 4 жыл бұрын

Does the Thinset bond to metal or should you use structural Epoxy

@SimplyJack3 4 жыл бұрын

So the 2nd side(larger side) you didn't need to slope?

@alllmas 4 жыл бұрын

If you want to use KERDI-DRAIN-FC connector between stainless steel grades, you will end up with ~1 3/8" overlap. Which is much better than 3/4" you mentioned. But still way less than 2" www.schluter.com/schluter-us/en_US/Shower-System/Accessories/Profiles/Schluter%C2%AE-KERDI-LINE-FC/p/KERDI_LINE-FC

@alllmas 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, I got it. There is no controversy in the instructions. 2 inch overlap is conservative. If Schluter designed this FC connector the way membrane overlaps less than 2 inch, then it's approved method and nothing wrong with it.

@kylegoeken8616 3 жыл бұрын

No water after???

@DCUPtoejuice 3 жыл бұрын

This install has no liner other than the schluter on the top?

@adamberezow5957 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Aaron86v 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always, quick question.. What knee pads are those? Reminds me of my Pro Knees but those look lighter.

@joshlewis664 3 жыл бұрын

Pro knee are great. The pads he was wearing didn’t extend down to the ankle, which I like a lot about pro knee

@Aaron86v 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshlewis664 I use the shorter Pro knees that are about 10in long, a bit more mobility

@TheTechGuider 4 жыл бұрын

Is that denshield

@saif1980saif 3 жыл бұрын

What knee pads.you use

@evtile7203 4 жыл бұрын

No shower pan?

@Ramdodge582 4 жыл бұрын

damm! does the whole family of 5 shower together ad once?

@julioortega5986 4 жыл бұрын

Art Art

@travisk5589 4 жыл бұрын

Isaac, do you have the correct tool to tighten those fernco couplers to the correct torque? They are supposed to be torqued to a specific tightness and there is a special tool for it.

@alllmas 4 жыл бұрын

Let us know which one

@kylegoeken8616 3 жыл бұрын

Minimum 1/4 per foot at an 1/8th inch even with waterproofing it seems risky