Hunger Games: Is Lucy Gray Katniss' Grandmother?

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Жыл бұрын

The Hunger Games prequel movie Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes is set to hit theaters November 2023. After rereading the novel of the same name I believe I uncovered the truth of Katniss' grandmother's identity. However the truth may not be what you expect.
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@subterraneanhomesickalien1344
@subterraneanhomesickalien1344 Жыл бұрын
I actually think that Lucy Gray survived and she is Katniss’s grandmother because Suzanne hints at it when Lucy Gray says that she’s gone “pick katniss” at the end of TBOSAS.
@requiredparticular6831
@requiredparticular6831 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Maude being her cousin and very close, she may have passed it on in Lucy Gray’s memory.
@maxwellmaxwell3042
@maxwellmaxwell3042 8 ай бұрын
Collins didn’t “hint at it”. If anything, she does the opposite. We know for a fact that Lucy doesn’t return to 12. There’s no way she’s Katniss’s grandmother
@rickkinki4624
@rickkinki4624 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it! Yes, Maude Ivory was Katniss's paternal grandmother. Katniss's paternal grandfather, I believe, was original named Evergreen, and at some point in time the Capitol banned music in District 12, as well as all colors associated with the Covey's music. Evergreen changed his named to Everdeen, and passed that named down two generations to Katniss. I doubt whether Lucy Gray ever returned to District 12, assuming she survived. Mayor LIpp would have immediately had her executed. So she either died, or went into the wilderness to the north. Great video, very thoughtful!
@cazyjohn2005
@cazyjohn2005 9 ай бұрын
when did the Capitol banned music in District 12? i found that interesting
@dawnoheee9524
@dawnoheee9524 7 ай бұрын
It’s mentioned briefly in the Epilogue of the book.
@cazyjohn2005
@cazyjohn2005 7 ай бұрын
@@dawnoheee9524 i wonder who order it, it can't be snow he not powerful at the time.
@tjhouston1280
@tjhouston1280 10 ай бұрын
I think she did survive and I would like to think so. But I also think she escapes somewhere. Probably far away and she could either be President Coin, or she lives in exile. Or the impossible could’ve happened and she could vary well be Katniss’s grandmother. It’s open ended unless Suzanne decided she wants to close that up.
@cazyjohn2005
@cazyjohn2005 9 ай бұрын
i don't see President Coin for number of reasons for one thing Snow would tell Katniss President Coin is Lucy.
@maxwellmaxwell3042
@maxwellmaxwell3042 8 ай бұрын
Lucy Gray is definitely *NOT* President Coin. *AT BEST* she’s Coin’s mother.
@cazyjohn2005
@cazyjohn2005 8 ай бұрын
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 i don't think she Coin’s mother either
@tjhouston1280
@tjhouston1280 8 ай бұрын
@@maxwellmaxwell3042 lol I didn’t think about that one
@maxwellmaxwell3042
@maxwellmaxwell3042 8 ай бұрын
@@cazyjohn2005 Me neither, but that’s much more viable than her being Coin herself
@subterraneanhomesickalien1344
@subterraneanhomesickalien1344 Жыл бұрын
Both Baird & Everdeen are Scottish names
@lthomas6022
@lthomas6022 Жыл бұрын
This makes sense. Great theory.
@catiebeans
@catiebeans Жыл бұрын
I fully agree!!!
@raitalkstoomuch
@raitalkstoomuch Жыл бұрын
but in the hunger games didn't katniss say the only victor from twelve besides haymitch was an old woman that died? unless there was another girl that won and lucy was dismissed completely as a victor
@reedbarham4095
@reedbarham4095 Жыл бұрын
If you read the book, Dr. Gaul erased all evidence of the 10th hunger games
@raitalkstoomuch
@raitalkstoomuch Жыл бұрын
@@reedbarham4095 ohhhh, it's been awhile since i've read it
@rickkinki4624
@rickkinki4624 Жыл бұрын
The only Victor besides Haymitch was unknown.
@cazyjohn2005
@cazyjohn2005 9 ай бұрын
@@reedbarham4095 why did Dr. Gaul erased all evidence of the 10th hunger games?
@rosenthal1466
@rosenthal1466 8 ай бұрын
@@cazyjohn2005the game was supposed to be a death match where no one survived the rainbow snakes to inflict fear in districts but yet lucy managed to live because of snow interference, the game making the capitol look vulnerable
@rachelm2657
@rachelm2657 Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking that it would be interesting if Lucy had survived her final standoff with Snow only to find out that she was pregnant. Maybe she died in childbirth and then Lucy Grey's family had to raise Katniss's father as a foundling type situation. They had to keep Lucy Grey hidden and the childbirth was too much for her to survive. This would explain why there is almost a disregard for her family in the "higher" circles of the society. Yes she has a single mom but I can't imagine that coal mining doesn't result in that often. Then for her to be the districts hero kinda gives that full upturn of born of a bastard at the bottom of the bottom of the district story that would resonate with the oppressed. Since we have it from Katniss's perspective that would also explain why it seems early on that Snow first sees her and targets her for her looks like her paternal grandmother, but also why she has to attract attention of the capital people. She is what they all think of the other districts. She is the grandchild of a teen mother who has no known father. She is the product of a single parent household. She is pretty but not over the top extravagant, so they were these outrageous outfits and are not a pretty as she is in her simple braid and her understated by their standards garb. To be honest that might be why Cinna was sent to her. He wanted things amazing but also to be understated and simple. When the others were all gold and flash their outfits were smile with their own flare. I could see the family that saw Lucy Grey get taken from them for standing out would have wanted simple and functional aspects so they could step back into the shadows. This might be what happened to the band too. They knew that being the flash and with the outlaw of music they faded into the rest of the district. At least this is what I have thought when I read the ballad of songbirds and snakes a year or so ago.
@cazyjohn2005
@cazyjohn2005 8 ай бұрын
you got me thinking did Snow look into each District 12 tributes family background to see who were their grandmother.
@RedUnlimitedTV
@RedUnlimitedTV Жыл бұрын
I think it's highly unlikely considering that Lucy either died or moved away to the North or Canada. If she fifnt find anyone up there, she would have died if she wasn't already killed dby Coriolanus , and if there WAS people what would be her incentive for coming back?
@aleximalmgren5301
@aleximalmgren5301 Жыл бұрын
Maybe there is a country outside of Panem and 13 .
@z2yn
@z2yn Жыл бұрын
What could work is a work that takes places in the hunger games universe, with our point of view focused on other countries going through similar issues or something different. And explanation what happened to the rest of the world and why they couldn't connect with panem.
@dawnoheee9524
@dawnoheee9524 7 ай бұрын
In the book, Lucy once told Coriolanus that the Covey traveled “north” as part of their travels. Then they were forced to stay in 12. But she didn’t elaborate if it was 13 or Canada. I’d like to think it was District 13.
@digitalwilderness1758
@digitalwilderness1758 5 ай бұрын
It's an interesting idea for sure.
@RedUnlimitedTV
@RedUnlimitedTV Жыл бұрын
Oooof. I typed my last comment without watching the full video. Maud stayed in 12 so yeah that would be so probable
@aleximalmgren5301
@aleximalmgren5301 Жыл бұрын
Or she is the granddaughter of Lucy and Snow .
@timmystitch55
@timmystitch55 Жыл бұрын
I don't thank so snow would sent for Mr everden an used him as Show piece to gain favor with the people of the capital
@aleximalmgren5301
@aleximalmgren5301 Жыл бұрын
@@timmystitch55 No for the president to have offspring in the districts would be politically incorrect . Maybe Mrs Everdeen 's maiden name is Baird . We never knew her First name .
@mindlife9534
@mindlife9534 7 ай бұрын
I thought maude was her mother
@petershaw8965
@petershaw8965 7 ай бұрын
Katniss will not only be Lucy Gray's granddaughter, ALSO SNOW´s!! When Lucy flees she is pregnant from Snow´s son and remains in the forest until she has her son (Katniss's father). For reasons the author will have to figure out (perhaps she dies during childbirth), Ivory will introduce Lucy's son as her son (or as a member of the flock). It is a very Star Wars version (with Luke hiding it) and that would justify that neither Katniss's father nor she herself would know (to protect them from Snow). Plus, it's much clearer that "What You Love Most Destroys You" is because she's the President's own granddaughter (and Snow's fascination with Katniss).
@bradene-a4182
@bradene-a4182 9 ай бұрын
Lucy Grey is named after a ghost. Her spirit lives on in the Hanging Tree. She is a legend.
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