Hydraulic Cylinder Rod is Stuck and Bend Due to the Hitting of Heavy Stone | Check How it's repaired

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Discovering Skills

Discovering Skills

2 жыл бұрын

I explain how to check the straightness of a hydraulic cylinder rod and calculate allowable run-out. This is an essential task when repairing any hydraulic cylinder, because if a bent rod gets put back in, the life of the rod seal(s) is compromised and the cost of the repair largely wasted.
I also explain that bent rods can, in many cases, be successfully straightened and re-used. Provided they can be straightened to within the allowable tolerance. One of our members who works for a cylinder repair company, sent me his counter position on this:
"In our experience, 'straightened' rods are never really straight. They almost always have an S curve in them after straightening has been attempted - because they do not re-bend in the same place they originally bent. Using these bent 'straightened' rods greatly compromises the column strength of the cylinder, and is unsafe for a heavily loaded cylinder. It also wears unevenly on the gland and rod bearing, and frequently doesn't seal well. For these reasons, we never try to straighten or reuse a bent rod. I would urge you to rethink your advice on straightening hydraulic cylinder rods."
I respect Don's viewpoint. I just happen NOT to agree with it.
Before I explain why, let's clarify what I mean when I say "bent" and "straight". I'm not talking about bent like your elbow. I'm talking about a deflection that's only detectable with a dial gauge. In this context, a rod is "bent" when it's run-out is outside allowable tolerance, and "straight" when within allowable tolerance.
Now, here's why I don't agree with Don. Many years ago, I worked for a company which repaired a lot of cylinders off mining-size hydraulic excavators - 250 tons operating weight and above. So we're talking about rod diameters of 200 millimeters (8") and up. Many of these rods were induction-hardened. And a lot of them would come to us "bent" as defined above.
At the time, the replacement cost of the smallest of these rods was around $10,000. So if we had refused to straighten these rods, we would have made a heap of money - right up until the point when our customers woke up and we lost all this work to our competitors.
Back then, we gave a 6,000 hour warranty on all our rebuilds. And the expectation of any rod we straightened to our satisfaction, was that we wouldn't see it again for at least 10,000 hours.
Notice too, I said many of these rods were induction hardened. In the interest of full disclosure, I have heard third or fourth-hand accounts of the induction-hardened layer violently shattering while straightening was been attempted. In my direct experience of straightening induction-hardened rods, I've never known this to happen. Nor have I ever heard a first or second-hand account of this happening from a reliable source.
My suspicion about this is, when it has occurred, the rod being straightened was bent like your elbow, rather than "bent" as I have defined it above. Either way, the benefit of doubt, and therefore the possibility of this happening, must be conceded. You have been warned.
#HydraulicCylinderRod #CylinderRodBent #hydraulicCylinderstuck
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@348loadedlever3
@348loadedlever3 2 жыл бұрын
We have safety glasses, shoes, hoists, chains, shops with all the equipment, highly trained and paid people, but we do one thing exactly the same as these guys. One guy does all the work and everyone watches
@nelmso
@nelmso 2 жыл бұрын
Да! братишка ты прав😂👍
@jim-uu2db
@jim-uu2db 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the job seriously only needs one guy.
@liafitria5696
@liafitria5696 2 жыл бұрын
@@nelmso p L
@igorsrudinskis6210
@igorsrudinskis6210 2 жыл бұрын
Time to learn
@dennishein2812
@dennishein2812 2 жыл бұрын
Must be a union shop.
@diegobom1
@diegobom1 Жыл бұрын
This video should be seen in all workshops around the world. What NOT to do at work.
@jaceknowaczyk1179
@jaceknowaczyk1179 Жыл бұрын
This shows that adjusting the pressure relief valve can save you a lot of work on unnecessary damages of hydraulic equipement :)
@orionwolf530
@orionwolf530 Жыл бұрын
he he..I dont think they know what a pressure relief valve mean.
@nicholashartzler2205
@nicholashartzler2205 9 ай бұрын
Probably turned it to 11 so they could lift more dirt lol.@@orionwolf530
@2point2
@2point2 2 жыл бұрын
Best episode of Cutting Edge Engineering ever.
@atana5588
@atana5588 Жыл бұрын
He should be very jealous seeing this video🤣🤣
@2point2
@2point2 Жыл бұрын
The tollerance is a ¼ banana.
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 3 ай бұрын
Poor Curtis lol
@SendLead
@SendLead 2 жыл бұрын
I love the OSHA approved safety sandals
@donraptor6156
@donraptor6156 2 жыл бұрын
OSHA has Jurisdiction there?
@simon1italy
@simon1italy 2 жыл бұрын
Well, not just the sandals. Pretty much everything in this video honors the most advanced regulation, including mechanical repairs
@kalababa8917
@kalababa8917 2 жыл бұрын
We are 240 million living in Pakistan without safety. 1 replaced by 100
@anthonyc4158
@anthonyc4158 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny! you talk about osha yet these men are getting stuff done fast without all the red tape and hurdles. if you depend on osha to keep you safe then you're the problem. safety is within us all. we don't need a government agency to dictate that to us, yet ya'll seem to think osha is God to the workforce. more power to these men that worked together to get that ram out. teamwork!
@kalababa8917
@kalababa8917 2 жыл бұрын
@@donraptor6156 absolutely not
@carybecker6555
@carybecker6555 Жыл бұрын
To do all this before you even take your pajamas off in the morning. My hats off to these guys!
@anitakerry3032
@anitakerry3032 Жыл бұрын
No need to be rude and ignorant its there daily work clothes .
@immers2410
@immers2410 Жыл бұрын
@@anitakerry3032 chill out. I’m from there and I found it quite funny
@ACatKrom
@ACatKrom Жыл бұрын
@@anitakerry3032 Anita must be an alias.. you are definitely a karen
@carvinlambert6899
@carvinlambert6899 Жыл бұрын
If you lived on a Deserted island, came upon this laying in the Bushes, the thing to do is simple. KEEP WALKING.
@BoogWeed
@BoogWeed Жыл бұрын
Respect to these men working with whatever they have available.
@lifeisneverthesame910
@lifeisneverthesame910 Жыл бұрын
most people in the developing countries work that way.
@thenextassassinass
@thenextassassinass Жыл бұрын
agreed, and aint not getting scared of loosing toes working on slippers
@ElvicFarms
@ElvicFarms Жыл бұрын
Kinda like dairy farmers lol
@heinzfissimatent4294
@heinzfissimatent4294 Жыл бұрын
hauptsache keine ahnung von der materie.
@jamessands9436
@jamessands9436 2 жыл бұрын
Metal has memory. Once the grain flow has been disrupted, that’s forever. Incredible repair with available resources.
@bigsmoke6189
@bigsmoke6189 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuggageStardate I run a Hydraulic repair workshop, the rod is induction hardened hard chrome bar and heating it to straighten it ruins the hardness.it will be far weaker when put back on the excavator and prone to rock and stone impact damage ,unless it goes through an induction hardening process again it will fail sooner or later usually destroying the ram tube as well ,replacing the rod is the only correct repair.
@fristytron
@fristytron 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this is a major problem among other they have.
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
This got them out of a jam, plain and simple.
@zvotaisvfi8678
@zvotaisvfi8678 2 жыл бұрын
@ james sands they are putting strength back in the metal by stamping it with the press it might be stronger than it was from the factory.
@bigsmoke6189
@bigsmoke6189 2 жыл бұрын
@@zvotaisvfi8678 they aren't stamping it or reforging it they are just straightening it .it will be far weaker without correct induction heat treatment.
@petedraganic6124
@petedraganic6124 2 жыл бұрын
I see so many comments with all kinds of technical concerns but I'm just here amazed at how these guys just get things done with pretty basic tools and sweat. Working on the dirt too. I'll even bet that isn't the first time that rod was bent lol.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, basic tools, but very basic indeed; that press,hoists and diggers are not bad; and not to speak about the machine that the cylinder came from; But one good thing is that they are all using their safety sandals here,as opposed to all bare feet in similar shops here on utube
@steveofire56765
@steveofire56765 2 жыл бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384 The safety boss is wearing "Sport" sandals
@schnoebelen2333
@schnoebelen2333 2 жыл бұрын
Just thought they done that before
@Mrshutter
@Mrshutter 2 жыл бұрын
They wasted so much time with a hammer when they could have pulled it out with the back loader Or block and chains to start. Like the fact they thought a hammer would work was really impressivly nieve
@vincep1c156
@vincep1c156 2 жыл бұрын
I mean what they did isn’t hard, it’s not going to last very long and likely less than a day but if that’s the only one you got then you gotta try it.
@chrissturgess4323
@chrissturgess4323 Жыл бұрын
Will be amazed if it worked .I used to work making hydraulic rams and the tolerances are around 10000th of an inch....
@jeremykagchelland2876
@jeremykagchelland2876 Жыл бұрын
They'll make it work
@JonathonIsTheMan
@JonathonIsTheMan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was kind of what I was thinking. That rod will never be true again. Admittedly, most of the cylinders I work with are nowhere near the scale of this one. Makes me wonder what kind of seal it uses and how rapidly the misalignment will eat it.
@abelpadilla7789
@abelpadilla7789 2 ай бұрын
Hey Kris look around where these mechanics are and welders and everyone else that works hard there. For one the way they handle everything to there best ability and guess what it comes out very strong and dependable.
@jonlee8979
@jonlee8979 Жыл бұрын
Working on heavy equipment with flip flops an saddles on these men are brave.
@user-ur2sn9cc1x
@user-ur2sn9cc1x 2 жыл бұрын
Хром повредили, поверхность поцарапана, масло будет течь из-под сальников. Цилиндр уже не даст расчётной мощности. Ещё и сделали отжиг штока. Теперь нужно делать закалку и отпуск, а они, скорее всего, даже не знают из какого сплава сделан этот шток и какой режим закалки делать. Судя по всему этот шток гнулся и выпрямлялся уже не в первый раз, если его так сильно погнуло… Качественный ремонт в таких условиях не сделать, если там только нет чудо-мастеров, которые обладают необходимым парком оборудования для такого ремонта (судя по тому, как доставали шток из гидроцилиндра, с мастерами и оборудованием там все не совсем хорошо).
@barmalina
@barmalina 2 жыл бұрын
они построили атомную бомбу, да да ,я проверял.
@chack1965
@chack1965 2 жыл бұрын
Покрасят и продадут в россию.
@user-yb7mr2le3c
@user-yb7mr2le3c 2 жыл бұрын
Ну ребята, успели забыть как наваренный коленвал шлифовали так как с запчастями совсем плохо было? Ничего потом не один год эти валы на авто работали или как под 76 бензин под головку жигулей 93 бензина две прокладки подкладывали и опять жигуль бегал. Всё забыли?
@user-wd6sm1nq8o
@user-wd6sm1nq8o 2 жыл бұрын
да скоро сами такое вживую увидим!нам на работе уже сказали НИЧЕГО НОВОГо НЕ БУДЕТ вы как нибудь делайте!
@nelmso
@nelmso 2 жыл бұрын
Вспомнилось от чего у нас поумирали икарусы - как сказал один человек "из-за нашего менталитета обслуживания"😉
@prithiviraj3070
@prithiviraj3070 2 жыл бұрын
A series problem is that when a rod is bent like that, it has crossed it's elastic limit at that specific zone and it can no longer withstand heavy loads intended for it. And It will get even worse. Just straightening it up won't solve the problem.
@nelmso
@nelmso 2 жыл бұрын
Они починят деталь и продадут🤦‍♂️. Это будут проблемы следующего владельца😄
@joshherrell93
@joshherrell93 2 жыл бұрын
No need for that science mumbo jumbo, bend her straight and keep sending it, it aint broke until it's BROKE. 😂🤘
@iwakmangutkendal6945
@iwakmangutkendal6945 2 жыл бұрын
Aim This video not to solve the problem 😁
@MrLandslide84
@MrLandslide84 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao, yea, thousands of PSI, lets beat TF out of it.
@ChrisHillASMR
@ChrisHillASMR 2 жыл бұрын
This is why you don't outsource technology to other countries. Too low iq
@paulnic7190
@paulnic7190 Жыл бұрын
Limited resources but they do a repair that will last for a while. Hats off to them.
@Sharpless2
@Sharpless2 Жыл бұрын
in addition to that, they do it in less than 2 weeks and dont need 600 pages of paperwork.
@LDN76
@LDN76 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, I like that they just wont give up with minimum tools
@jeramiebradford1
@jeramiebradford1 2 жыл бұрын
Immediate opening for heavy equipment mechanic, must have your own hammer and rock. Shoes preferred but not required.
@nedshead5906
@nedshead5906 2 жыл бұрын
Sport sandals preferred
@craigullman6129
@craigullman6129 2 жыл бұрын
🤔🤭🤣🤣🤣
@PantyDropper1
@PantyDropper1 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly they know what they are doing. He even flipped the aken around once it was loose to back it out all the way.
@asharafachu7095
@asharafachu7095 2 жыл бұрын
🇧🇩
@sisyphuscranerigging7792
@sisyphuscranerigging7792 2 жыл бұрын
At the end, they started to figure out something, although it's majorly sketchy. Before that, they were trying to find a clue, or rent one. At the beginning, they were so lost that Lassie couldn't find them if they had bacon in their pockets. I do think if you beat on it with that hammer for long enough, it would have straightened a few millimeters...
@craigcooknf
@craigcooknf 2 жыл бұрын
Aresome. It's always interesting that no matter where you are in the world, the first solution that's tried is hitting it with a big hammer!
@swaldron5558
@swaldron5558 Жыл бұрын
Amazing determined men!
@abelpadilla7789
@abelpadilla7789 2 ай бұрын
Great job guys I must say you men have a lot of talent in deed it’s really impressive to see you men work hard together. Much respect Gentleman.
@SaveTheRumble
@SaveTheRumble 2 жыл бұрын
Great work, I love videos like this, no health and safety just a group of lads cracking on
@anthonyc4158
@anthonyc4158 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and they got the job done without all the BS hurdles and red tape. kudos to these guys.
@shaunmooney2834
@shaunmooney2834 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyc4158 yeah mate - all bs and red tape - until you are injured and cannot work - bit hard feeding the kids - but then again you can send the boys down pit and the girls into the garment factory - or better yet flog one of the girls off to the local brothel. who needs bs and red tape!
@Don.Challenger
@Don.Challenger 2 жыл бұрын
But sadly a hot day and not a beer anywhere to wet the whistle (and if there were the brew would likely kill you).
@Don.Challenger
@Don.Challenger 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaunmooney2834 At least you have a keen eye for the details - not all jobs are hammer jobs and not all red tape is pernicious.
@billietribble3383
@billietribble3383 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video on injuries while folks like these are work ing. probably no records & Obvious no one cares how many get hurt or Killed
@-yeme-
@-yeme- 2 жыл бұрын
Id love to see a reaction to this from Kurtis at Cutting Edge
@craig2963
@craig2963 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing the whole time.
@mohatlm5095
@mohatlm5095 2 жыл бұрын
The first word "F**k" 🤣
@johncaccamo
@johncaccamo 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@garylsmalley
@garylsmalley 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I wonder if those are OSHA approved sandals. They are persistent. That dude with the sledge hammer is an animal.
@FilippoRubin
@FilippoRubin 2 жыл бұрын
me too
@franksmith6683
@franksmith6683 Жыл бұрын
I've straightened rams before, when a new one wasn't available quickly enough and they've been run every day for years, cancelled the order for a new one. Seals will tolerate a little bit of wobble, maybe not as long as a dead straight rod but plenty good enough for these guys. Not everybody can afford to just buy a new one. I've done some very sketchy repairs to get me going, then bought the new part but kept it until the repair fails and incredibly, it never fails.
@chriswhittaker9586
@chriswhittaker9586 11 ай бұрын
Love watching these guys fix things amazing how they recycle, but they are like the British council, one works and the rest watching 😂
@balboa8694
@balboa8694 9 ай бұрын
Return the Champions League won with petro dollars
@Fr1ti4e88
@Fr1ti4e88 2 жыл бұрын
They deserve the $1 a day for that quality work
@clippers4me
@clippers4me 2 жыл бұрын
They do the best they can with what they have.
@RustyorBroken
@RustyorBroken 2 жыл бұрын
$1 per day would likely be a significant raise.
@kiwijohn01
@kiwijohn01 2 жыл бұрын
Great result from workers who don't live in a throw away society. Could've been repaired a bit better sure, but needs were met. Good effort lads.
@paulwatson255
@paulwatson255 2 жыл бұрын
Clever Clever Clever watching these guys all the way in Jamaica
@taihancock5611
@taihancock5611 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like this cylinder is a major emergency they didn't even have time to get out of their Pajamas and have Breakfast before this work needed to get done LOL
@paulwatson255
@paulwatson255 2 жыл бұрын
@@taihancock5611 maybe there pj looks better than yr jumper suit lol dwl lmao
@timothysimpson1561
@timothysimpson1561 2 жыл бұрын
While it looks all nice and straight again, I can tell you it's been compromised. I feel sorry for the person whose life may depend on it not failing.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothysimpson1561 At best the surface is scarred and will blow the seals in a matter of hours. If all those workers were making Western wages it wouldn't even be cost effective if it came out as good as new. BIG respect for resourcefulness and efforts--they apparently don't have a better option or this could tide them over until proper expensive rebuild/replace. We'd never think of repairing a rod lk that, it's likely already gashed and it will be more after such press methods, that it's not perfectly straight not the problem, surface damage that's bearing quality cannot be retrieved, naturally also loss of rod strength and/or fatigue resistance likely but this is not a permanent solution anyway.
@unixsuperuser
@unixsuperuser Жыл бұрын
This was pure art
@killroy9628
@killroy9628 Жыл бұрын
Team work makes the dream work.
@amjadmohmood6391
@amjadmohmood6391 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate to +/- 15". Now THAT'S precision repairing.
@detoxvirusuno3397
@detoxvirusuno3397 2 жыл бұрын
Ek feet me 12 inches ki accuracy. That's the standard. RIP seals.
@mikethompson3534
@mikethompson3534 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@mmm-mmm
@mmm-mmm 2 жыл бұрын
@@detoxvirusuno3397 seals? what seals? there are seals?
@billshiff2060
@billshiff2060 2 жыл бұрын
@@mmm-mmm Nope.... not anymore!
@RobotN001
@RobotN001 2 жыл бұрын
Ручная доводка может давать очень хорошие точности. Но трудоёмкость по времени высокая, поэтому экономическая выгода маленькая..
@p39483
@p39483 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to know my time machine can be fixed in the bronze age.
@j_a_j_o_n
@j_a_j_o_n 2 жыл бұрын
Good
@Vasyl40
@Vasyl40 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but quality of that work is also stone age. Not big deal to make it straight, but big deal to give that material same hardness as it had before, the crystal structure is weak after thermal treatment. Dents also appears during that hydraulic press treatment, cut metal have weak crystal structure, and in result after 50 cycles back and forth, that cylinder spite itself with oil, and eventually bend again. But the workers solve the problem, cheaper way.
@HariYanto-by2ed
@HariYanto-by2ed 2 жыл бұрын
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@HariYanto-by2ed
@HariYanto-by2ed 2 жыл бұрын
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@agromb-trac5972
@agromb-trac5972 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vasyl40 j t
@drewjn
@drewjn Жыл бұрын
Hats off to them for the amount of effort and dedication to the task of trying to salvage it. That being said, it was quite a lot of time and effort troubleshooting when they should have just undid the couplings and use either the vehicles or the excavator far earlier. Having the dude hit it with a hammer hoping it would magically straighten or pull it out, 3 or 4 different attempts at that. As for the end result, it will probably work, just not for long; which to be fair, might be all they needed in this situation. Sometimes getting a replacement and legit repair just takes too long and time can be essential. Also funny seeing the comments full of people pretending to understand metallurgy.
@stever3425
@stever3425 10 ай бұрын
I don't know much about metalurgy but I'm quite sure the fire was to temper or soften the previously hardened steel. So they now have a softer ram to work with. The bright side of it is that it will be easier to restraighten the next time(s) it bends.😂
@BigTech.Discover
@BigTech.Discover 11 ай бұрын
Repairing takes a lot of effort. These boys are very strong. Well done
@Bobby_Uterus
@Bobby_Uterus 2 жыл бұрын
That chrome plating is pretty important, looks like they did a number on it. Not to mention ruining any prior heat treatment by putting the part in fire. I’m sure it will still work, just not very well or for very long.
@Butchsiek
@Butchsiek 2 жыл бұрын
Heating like they did relieves the stress of the bend.. Once straightened which we will never know since the video isnt complete, is to heat treat the shaft again to it's original molecular structure set by the manufacturer.. Then polish the shaft hopefully the chrome finish isnt that bad.. Rod steel are 1040 and 1045 and by far the most used but there are some of 4140 rods as well...
@Tha66
@Tha66 2 жыл бұрын
មែនហើយអ្នក ក្រូម ភ្លេតទីង វាពិតជាសំខាន់ខ្លាំងណាស់ខ្ញុំសង្ឃឹមថាពួកគេធ្វើហើយនិងប្រើបានយូរ។
@High.Desert
@High.Desert 2 жыл бұрын
@@Butchsiek wrong
@Butchsiek
@Butchsiek 2 жыл бұрын
@@High.Desert I worked in machine shops that repaired hydraulics and we did some black smithing.. I'm right.
@Butchsiek
@Butchsiek 2 жыл бұрын
@@High.Desert dont say I'm wrong and don't back up without facts..
@FjordTrotter
@FjordTrotter 2 жыл бұрын
For those who comment on the reconditioning quality - you need to consider the costs involved. The average wage for a worker there is less than $1000 USD / yr. So a full replacement cylinder is about 9-12 years wages. In developed nations, think of it as a $250,000 job just to replace a part for the machine. How would you go about it? This is their only choice for survival - and it does work, albeit not perfectly.
@adrianfranco1028
@adrianfranco1028 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. In Canada those guys would make 30 to $50 or maybe even 60per dollars per hour. That thing would have been scrapped here and a new one just simply ordered and then installed. So good point.
@youngmoon8762
@youngmoon8762 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree. That's not their fault. They are doing their best in their condition.
@aramirez8427
@aramirez8427 2 жыл бұрын
good point.....I love how smart and creative they are...I watch the videos all the time
@nickvasquez8054
@nickvasquez8054 2 жыл бұрын
At the rate the us is going, we're not too far behind them. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@js-vm8zc
@js-vm8zc 2 жыл бұрын
@Will Swift,,,, You must be a kid, or a simple minded adult,
@angry3055
@angry3055 Жыл бұрын
This what I love these types of equipment, can literally be fix anywhere with the right know how👍
@nopenope2134
@nopenope2134 Жыл бұрын
More like fixn't
@XStudioKaraoke
@XStudioKaraoke Жыл бұрын
Amazing job
@channelview8854
@channelview8854 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this is less than ideal but, speaking as a former Oklahoma dirt farmer (no money), my hat is off to these guys. If you gotta use it and it's all you got then a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. BTW, everybody needs to read the description on this video for more perspective.
@joodasheq
@joodasheq 2 жыл бұрын
It's not less than ideal, it's a hydraulic cylinder. The amount of pressure will crack it next time it hits something slightly because they didn't reharden it. Like, yeah, great job at making it a barely straight rod, but putting it in a cylinder is fucking dangerous.
@sakuraturbo3364
@sakuraturbo3364 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt that’s going to work once that shaft bends is no longer strong as factory
@richardmccann4815
@richardmccann4815 2 жыл бұрын
@@sakuraturbo3364It took all the force the machine was capable of to bend it against an immovable object. Unless they try that again, it will work!
@joodasheq
@joodasheq 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardmccann4815 it's just not how it works. Structural integrity aside, which is also important, hardening was completely removed. It's literally just regular steel, not hardened steel. Any actual hydraulic force against something and it'll be a noodle inside this cylinder. They harden it for a reason. They might have just put literally any other steel bar they had, since this one is not only not actually rund (Hüllprinzip is completely ruined, for example), it'll sprout oil everywhere. Literally. Half of actual force will go in and around the hammered part since it's full of micro (and not so micro) holes and bends. It's just not a cylindrical object when it comes to function. Just semiround.
@richardmccann4815
@richardmccann4815 2 жыл бұрын
@@joodasheq Sorry, you can't effect a full anneal with a little oil fire smoldering in the sand, open to the air. You can bet these guys know more than you or I, at least from this conversation! Thank you for your massive knowit all. And really, who cares? I know you don't, cause you don't know what it took to bend it the first time. When you have been a machinist for 30 + years, studied metallurgy in college, and lose your attitude, I still won't care. But I may never try to educate a moron again. ESAD. FO. And tell the safety sissies to pound salt, will you?
@frankiearagon-jraka-kiko5321
@frankiearagon-jraka-kiko5321 2 жыл бұрын
That's impressive. Hard working dudes. My respects to all you dudes.
@paulwatson255
@paulwatson255 2 жыл бұрын
Shot out from Jamaica when people work hard and try and get it done much respect to yr comments
@briantorres1612
@briantorres1612 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwatson255 F’k Jamaica
@supanjiutomo17
@supanjiutomo17 Жыл бұрын
Good job 👍
@reisenlieber
@reisenlieber Жыл бұрын
good job guys!
@bouncerbloke1
@bouncerbloke1 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these videos, what these guys do, with the basic of tools, is outstanding
@ghosty426
@ghosty426 2 жыл бұрын
The future of the USA thanks to Biden and Klaus Schwab.
@marcelosanches3397
@marcelosanches3397 2 жыл бұрын
Hard work with limited resources. Repect. Absolute respect
@AntonyJohn71
@AntonyJohn71 2 жыл бұрын
You would be surprised how well of the owner of the equipment is. He is just cheaping out, because he doesn't care about the safety of his own employees. I am an Indian by the way. Don't go by how poorly dressed these people look. These are Punjabi's. They are generally wealthy.
@AntonyJohn71
@AntonyJohn71 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcelosanches3397 Huh, When did I talk about Capitalism? I am an Indian, and actually knows these type of people . I ran a small automation build factory in a place called Coimbatore in South India. And have actually worked with my team on the shop floor. I dont need you tell me about what I know about my country and similar situations. Thank you.. Take your butt hurt elsewhere...
@Davyjones5454
@Davyjones5454 Жыл бұрын
They are really ingenious.
@ConsoleCombatant
@ConsoleCombatant Жыл бұрын
winch, steel cable, chain, car, and somewhere in the world an unnamed safety inspector is getting a stroke but this guys did an excellent job with minimal resources and maximum effort, respect !
@JorgeSanchez-ze3lf
@JorgeSanchez-ze3lf Жыл бұрын
LOL.. so true man, that's exactly what I thought.
@prebaned
@prebaned Жыл бұрын
Wrong, somewhere in the world is a safety inspector looking for a bigger boat to store all the money that makes this possible...
@ivanivlyushkin1001
@ivanivlyushkin1001 Жыл бұрын
Совершенно верно. В наше время, инспектор по безопасности, это человек который лишает тебя заработка.
@trevorsmith5946
@trevorsmith5946 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo its refreshing to see them use their skills and experience to give old damaged parts a new lease of life for very little money.
@masscomnet
@masscomnet 2 жыл бұрын
Those parts are not repairable.
@blowme5150
@blowme5150 Жыл бұрын
Bot
@goose.biscuits
@goose.biscuits Жыл бұрын
it's going to end up costing way more when it dies a new death in a day or so. Hydraulic pressure is not to be played with.
@stevereaves6757
@stevereaves6757 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best never-give-up example I've ever seen.
@user-ut2ii3qi6x
@user-ut2ii3qi6x Жыл бұрын
I respect honest workers!
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Is anyone else wondering why they just didn't pressurize the cylinder and let hydraulics do the work ?? Just stand to the side.
@bonzai2380
@bonzai2380 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know where to start. Annealing the rod in the fire will destroy its strength. The chrome platting is damaged by the bend and will flake off in short order. In the straightening process they used a flat rough metal plate, nothing to say the v block on the bottom, there is more scars on that rod than you can imagine. This hydraulic cylinder is going to leak and the first hard push and the rod is going to bow due to being annealed. As far as the rod being straight, well, I’ll leave that up to you.
@joytoshghosh9974
@joytoshghosh9974 2 жыл бұрын
indeed...my dear friend....that's why the quality is so different...
@FjordTrotter
@FjordTrotter 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the cost of the part is probably 10 yrs wages for the avg worker there. A $10,000 (USD) part is about 9-12 yrs salary, the average earnings of those sandal-wearing folks is about $700/yr They need to keep on going and preserve parts to make a living. Yes it isnt 100% reconditioned or perfect, but it will make do for the time being
@siyabongankumane2803
@siyabongankumane2803 2 жыл бұрын
Naaaa they dont use it.....they fix it and ship it to USA.
@krisbrzezina2289
@krisbrzezina2289 2 жыл бұрын
@@FjordTrotter and once the spool is jammed when the chrome flakes off that's about another 40 years wages its a shite repair no matter how you dress it up
@jimydoolittle3129
@jimydoolittle3129 2 жыл бұрын
Bonsai , and what do you suggest , buy a new one , Never expect the entire world should think the American Way 🤣 there’s more in the world than the buying spree of capitalism 💸 , if it can be fixed ,we’ll definitely fix it ,
@MartyT
@MartyT 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see they're all wearing their safety sandals and dressing gowns
@DafitInstructor
@DafitInstructor 2 жыл бұрын
Funny we think all cultures should do as we do.
@chadb2077
@chadb2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@DafitInstructor i dont think cultures should have anything to do with jobsite safety
@Richard-et3cl
@Richard-et3cl 2 жыл бұрын
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, this is how things where done in my home country back in the 70s, no safety at all, but a society of strong men. Todays society is corrupted by people that says men can be pregnant.
@Richard-et3cl
@Richard-et3cl 2 жыл бұрын
@@chadb2077 stop forcing people to wear safety Equipment, they only time I use safety glasses when I am using the angle grinder. mind your own safety 😂
@chadb2077
@chadb2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@Richard-et3cl i dont see how i forced safety equipment on anyone thats your own deal, if you want pointless preventable injuries by all means go ahead😂
@gasd6542
@gasd6542 Жыл бұрын
I like the "sport" safety sandals. Need me some of these!
@dongraham4760
@dongraham4760 2 жыл бұрын
This is a temporary solution at best when a machine "must" go . Hydraulic cylinder rods have to be perfectly straight else the seal will leak . The "straightening" process here did not truly straighten the shaft , only turning on a lathe , which is tricky , at the end will do that after pit repair , the chrome is severely compromised . It should be rechromed ! The strength of the shaft also has been compromised , to what degree ? The first heavy load will tell !
@bishop198666
@bishop198666 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao. This is india not germany
@sarinr8226
@sarinr8226 2 жыл бұрын
@@bishop198666 this is Pakistan , not india
@naradaian
@naradaian 2 жыл бұрын
You may need to get out a bit more
@fobmsg
@fobmsg 2 жыл бұрын
@@naradaian you may need to work with machine mor
@bishop198666
@bishop198666 2 жыл бұрын
sarin r ok fair enough. Not much difference
@sk4lman
@sk4lman 2 жыл бұрын
I love how there are five million people on hand, half of them just standing around.
@jonanderson5137
@jonanderson5137 2 жыл бұрын
The beauty of cheap labor, you get what you pay for.
@frontcentermusician
@frontcentermusician 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of like american work crews LOL.
@audioalarmtechusa
@audioalarmtechusa 11 ай бұрын
Estos hombres son unos genios!
@kamnapavon4638
@kamnapavon4638 Жыл бұрын
Good Job.. Great for what they had to Work With..
@otisdavies1861
@otisdavies1861 2 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic rods can be straightened and can be reused, as long as they are re hardened. Once a hydraulic rod has been bent more than 1 or 2 degrees, it looses it's integrity and will bend again and even easier the next time. Good luck guys. I like your programs
@JohnDoe-es5xh
@JohnDoe-es5xh 2 жыл бұрын
You are right, but those ppl dont care the long run.
@hemantkumawat7649
@hemantkumawat7649 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-es5xh bcz they are pakistani
@sammyjones3500
@sammyjones3500 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nightmare !
@michelgrenier1878
@michelgrenier1878 2 жыл бұрын
Hardened and re-chromed , Don't this rod will last .
@nadineraynor2539
@nadineraynor2539 2 жыл бұрын
#grandpa's opinion. Heavy equipment & hyd mech over 40yr. I admire these ppl. Stop your nose in the air put down.
@Timejump369
@Timejump369 2 жыл бұрын
Doing all that and sandals it’s great but yes the shaft will never be the same again gotta love the determination
@sdoomer1972
@sdoomer1972 Жыл бұрын
I love watching these guys make stuff work with minimal resources 👍
@rashidzaidi5211
@rashidzaidi5211 Жыл бұрын
Love your comment yes these guys without much education do all sorts of repairs and save the day for those who come to such road side shops across Pakistan. They really intelligent folks honest hard working making a living to support families
@DogSerious
@DogSerious Жыл бұрын
Jawwa's really know how to make stuff and talk at the same time!
@angelfigueroa310
@angelfigueroa310 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they were going to throw rocks at it to straighten it . My hats off to these men
@bretparker5757
@bretparker5757 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆😆😆
@johndoe1778
@johndoe1778 2 жыл бұрын
This is hard to watch haha so rough
@mikehunntt5338
@mikehunntt5338 2 жыл бұрын
They probably did for two days before realizing it wasn't working then edited that part out
@ChrisG-om9uy
@ChrisG-om9uy 2 жыл бұрын
Engineers at work..😄
@OGZeroLyfe
@OGZeroLyfe 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know why they straightened it out, it's getting real hard to find a cylinder that can go around corners these days.
@Imwhisper76ontwitch
@Imwhisper76ontwitch 2 жыл бұрын
Legend
@websitesthatneedanem
@websitesthatneedanem 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@user-snamibog
@user-snamibog 2 жыл бұрын
))))))))) смешное
@rickwilliams4342
@rickwilliams4342 2 жыл бұрын
And they gaged straight with bar stock and no dial indicators bringing it back to .005 inch.
@user-hv2zb1kp7o
@user-hv2zb1kp7o 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickwilliams4342 Это инструментальный калиброванный пруток!)))
@bobjimenez4464
@bobjimenez4464 Жыл бұрын
glad that nobody got killed fixing this one.......Success : )
@pubwvj
@pubwvj Жыл бұрын
I had a boulder fall on a heavy stabilizer hydraulic cylinder just like that and bend the rod. I straightened it by very slowly working it over a period of hot days and keeping it max lobbed. It worked and is fine now 15 years later.
@e.c.listening326
@e.c.listening326 2 жыл бұрын
This will never be as good as it was before
@DiscoveringSkills
@DiscoveringSkills 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@roundedges2
@roundedges2 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes that is not the valid criteria. Even as it was before it failed with sufficient abuse. So more careful use is an option.
@richardsedenquist3222
@richardsedenquist3222 2 жыл бұрын
I repair these from time to time....when people bend them....why in the hell do they retract them back in the barrell???!!! Do they think the chrome will self heal?? Just spin out a new gland head on the lathe, drill the holes, cut the internal grooves for the seals and externals for the O rings......order a new chrome shaft....taper end and weld eyelet back on.....cut threads on other end for the piston.... good as NEW
@michaelchristopher9444
@michaelchristopher9444 2 жыл бұрын
No shit captian obvious
@lioncat2457
@lioncat2457 2 жыл бұрын
I "love" how they keep trying to tie knots with chains ! 🤣
@timchristyjr.7940
@timchristyjr.7940 Жыл бұрын
That's was great work guys. I wish there was more guys like u that will repair the work rather than just replace it.
@Sharpless2
@Sharpless2 Жыл бұрын
This really depends on where you are in the world. In this case, a repair is way cheaper than a replacement. In other placed maybe a replacement is way cheaper in terms of time and money. This thing just has to work, it doesnt matter how good or how long, just that it works. A hydraulic shaft with a bend this bad goes directly into trash since it can never regain its full strength. It will work, just not as good or as long as it could. At one point this could become a literal bomb.
@kuwaitman
@kuwaitman Жыл бұрын
Based on standards of living in your country. you guys did an excellent job. Well done 👍🏻
@fxsrider
@fxsrider Жыл бұрын
I was told long ago, everyone everywhere was getting on just fine without me.
@nicolasgonzalez5277
@nicolasgonzalez5277 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I give this guy's A for effort.
@michaelanderson7715
@michaelanderson7715 2 жыл бұрын
bs, everything gets bathed in dirt
@Team_Banchamek
@Team_Banchamek 2 жыл бұрын
They must really really really need that machine back on site
@tomatomoussin9134
@tomatomoussin9134 2 жыл бұрын
It is so unique to see how cool they work with slippers on foot and no work outfit, just gorgeous 🧡 I very much like these guys.
@user-qb1lq9xf1d
@user-qb1lq9xf1d Жыл бұрын
Dumbest comment I have read
@topgunpilot2547
@topgunpilot2547 Жыл бұрын
Cheap Indian labor 🤣
@BleuCzech
@BleuCzech Жыл бұрын
One thing never changes in the trades is always the one guy getting it done and 8 others watching, lol!
@nagialjunior
@nagialjunior Жыл бұрын
Good working 👍👍
@DaleDirt
@DaleDirt 2 жыл бұрын
great job straightening that rod . That was amazing , I still can't believe you got it that straight .
@Trident_Euclid
@Trident_Euclid 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@markmaker2488
@markmaker2488 2 жыл бұрын
When labour is cheap and new parts are expensive, this is how you get by. Well done 👍
@javierlramires7567
@javierlramires7567 Жыл бұрын
Minion’s are really smart,they do lot real stuff love it
@MountainGurkha14
@MountainGurkha14 9 ай бұрын
good job man
@simon1italy
@simon1italy 2 жыл бұрын
Sure it looks straight, but I feel like they are going to need some hell of O-rings to make it work again. And plenty of hydraulic oil to top it off every 30 minutes...
@mordaljohan75
@mordaljohan75 2 жыл бұрын
Of course , this hydraulic linear motor is dead for me ...
@peterbills4129
@peterbills4129 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a channel, Cutting Edge Egineering, in Australia. He does work on heavy machinery requiring welding and machining work on components. Having watched his videos, this video is hilarious. This "fix" will last a couple days before it bends again LOL!
@chenzitong1
@chenzitong1 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterbills4129 +1 to cutting edge engineering, he's a pro 👌
@JorgeForge
@JorgeForge 2 жыл бұрын
@@xanderzaccone5431 I like watching Kurtis because I like machinery. I'm not in the trade, just like to watch it 😊
@dongraham4760
@dongraham4760 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry there was a typo in your comment , didn't you mean "seconds" instead of minutes !
@rkow8508
@rkow8508 2 жыл бұрын
For what these guys have to work with they do very well.
@leoivansustaita6406
@leoivansustaita6406 Жыл бұрын
Heavy machinery and no boots, open toes, that’s skill!
@Jose-vg3yq
@Jose-vg3yq Жыл бұрын
Very cool to see
@UnitedStatesOfCoffee
@UnitedStatesOfCoffee 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to see how people do things in other walks of life
@__belial__
@__belial__ 2 жыл бұрын
Aka everything but the US
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 2 жыл бұрын
or buy Made in China "OEM" parts because buying a new one is cheaper than rebuilding, less skills, more Chinesse.
@ZbigniewNowakowski
@ZbigniewNowakowski 2 жыл бұрын
Podziwiam takich fachowców od dużych maszyn 👌ja jestem fachowcem od trochę mniejszych. Świetny odcinek 👌😀😀😀pozdrawiam
@ismaelfranciscoalmeida6803
@ismaelfranciscoalmeida6803 Жыл бұрын
Especialistas!!!!!!!! Aonde vc viu isso está de brincadeira né
@ZbigniewNowakowski
@ZbigniewNowakowski Жыл бұрын
@@ismaelfranciscoalmeida6803 😀😀😀
@hardoxion1923
@hardoxion1923 Жыл бұрын
Very good very nice job
@feth7747
@feth7747 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine the conditions (with a rock) to bend this steel bar. Amazing
@stevendavis1243
@stevendavis1243 2 жыл бұрын
When the SHTF it's these guys you want living down the block. It's amazing how they fix broken technical equipment with very little modern help and pure brute force and know how.
@hamhass1983
@hamhass1983 2 жыл бұрын
They are really cool
@drinkthekoolaidkids
@drinkthekoolaidkids Жыл бұрын
That's because their now standard of living would be our shtf standard of living ...
@vichetdragoncars3186
@vichetdragoncars3186 2 жыл бұрын
Proud of your skills
@piratepete4322
@piratepete4322 Жыл бұрын
They never give up. Admiration and respect from me.
@frannelk
@frannelk Жыл бұрын
Real engineers, no BS or whatsoever, hard work, amazing results.
@ima_robot91
@ima_robot91 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how much these guys could get done using modern tools and machinery
@johnc8327
@johnc8327 2 жыл бұрын
They are decendents of people that build pyramids with nothing but logs and chisels.
@DonnieB0407
@DonnieB0407 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnc8327 Those are Egyptians. Not Pakistani.
@rajwarnakulasuriya5935
@rajwarnakulasuriya5935 2 жыл бұрын
If they had modern tools they will be a lazy bunch like you guys
@BellyUpFish
@BellyUpFish 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not much more, in reality.. Just human nature...
@lw7238
@lw7238 2 жыл бұрын
What they repaired won't last long. The metal is stretched and weakened, at best this is a temporary fix till a new one is ordered.
@zyanidwarfare5634
@zyanidwarfare5634 2 жыл бұрын
I like how they eventually went “fuck this” and used a excavator to just yank the piston rod out
@josephcouture2838
@josephcouture2838 Жыл бұрын
Ok I'm actually impressed, that worked a lot better than I thought it would. 👍
@kennethcrowe300
@kennethcrowe300 Жыл бұрын
stoneheads
@TheViettan28
@TheViettan28 Жыл бұрын
That's how stuff happens in the world where human is cheaper than machinery.
@lowkeygato2133
@lowkeygato2133 Жыл бұрын
They actually did a respectable job.
@cliffords.8341
@cliffords.8341 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when I used to straighten motorcycle fork tubes when the customer didn't want to spend $200 + for new ones. Sometimes after straightening them, they were oblonged or tiny outer cracks and had to be replaced. These people have no access or $ for new parts so the do with what they have until it breaks, which eventually it will because every time metal bends, it gets weaker, stretches and ends up out of shape. Kinda like me. 😁
@Butchsiek
@Butchsiek 2 жыл бұрын
When straightening the rod, its heated to relieve the stress.. Then straightened, Then heat treated to manufacturers specs. Then polished.. The shaft done right should be good until it gets screwed up again. My concern would be fixing the broken collar, since it's made of cast iron.
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@Butchsiek They will use super glue!
@thedude5869
@thedude5869 2 жыл бұрын
@@glasslinger jb weld
@joelbell242
@joelbell242 Жыл бұрын
I love how they spent all that time and energy beating on it when they had an excavator right there!
@mickblock
@mickblock Жыл бұрын
I think that's a crew of people that pretty much r & d methods for salvaging. And they are wanting to start out looking at the least amount of resources necessary to get any given type of thing done. Seems like it.
@webstercat
@webstercat Жыл бұрын
Work ethic 101. Respect to you all.
@toocurious19
@toocurious19 Жыл бұрын
this is very good
@insanebmxthomas
@insanebmxthomas 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone freaking out about heat treating, annealing and you name it. You understand there are massive differences in types of soil that exacavators work on, right? They can just choose to only use in loose/sandy soil and stay well within operating/safety limits. That is, if they get the shaft to work; which no doubt they will. Respect to these guys. The west has such a hard time imagining things like this. Sadly labour is so expensive here, that fixing stuff has is limits.
@roybatty1972
@roybatty1972 Жыл бұрын
How will you repair sir ? Yes !
@frankj3446
@frankj3446 2 жыл бұрын
My respect for those boys for doing an excellent job.!
@gerarteuben3333
@gerarteuben3333 2 жыл бұрын
Which excellent job ? The cilinder seal will start leaking within a few hours and bend again after the first heavy lift.
@bengurwell1500
@bengurwell1500 10 ай бұрын
On one hand, it is impressive to see how much they can get done with so little. On the other I see what looks like 4 man-hours sunk into what 2 minutes with an impact gun and a torch would accomplish.
@paulg444
@paulg444 9 ай бұрын
Knowledge and wisdom and experience must be learned by watching. When a book keeper watches this they see wasted manhours. When a mechanic watches this they see force multiplication by the transfer of knowledge.
@ouch74
@ouch74 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a waste of time and effort to me. Even if you straighten it all out that steel is compromised. May as well just scrap it out and replace with new.
@pabrennan6877
@pabrennan6877 8 ай бұрын
@@ouch74 I agree, however it may have been re-induction hardened etc - but who knows what happened next, we didn’t get to see, nor if it even worked or held pressure.
@moeelza7816
@moeelza7816 Жыл бұрын
People making fun of these guys probably never even changed a car tire. They have minimal resources and got the job done, you think if they can afford a new rod they wouldn't have thought of that?
@Teenagegoogoomuk
@Teenagegoogoomuk 2 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how the guys keep all of their toes.
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 2 жыл бұрын
life is cheap in Pakistan, and protective boots are expensive. Shiver then I see how all stand close to a smale chain and a smale wire, then they trying to pull out the road, imagen the power in the whiplash if the wire break or come loose.
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