Hypersync vs. High Speed Sync (HSS) // Which is better for off camera flash photography

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In Hypersync vs High Speed Sync HSS, I break down the advantages of each to determine when each is better for off camera flash photography.
Hypersync is an alternative to HSS, both of which allow you to sync flash above your camera's sync speed limitation.
The advantage to HSS is convenience and visual consistency. The disadvantage is that HSS comes with a significant output loss.
The advantage to Hypersync (aka Hi-sync, Supersync, HS) is there is no output loss. However, it creates a gradient of light across the frame, and can be erratic to set up. It's also limited to higher flash outputs on most systems, and in some cases may only work at full power.
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Introduction : 0:00
How Hypersync Works : 0:22
Pro's and Con's of Hypersync : 2:04
When you should use Hypersync : 3:17
BTS of Hypersync results : 4:08

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@andreasstolten9179 3 жыл бұрын

Very well done. I espicially liked the comparison between normal sync, ND filters, HSS and HyperSync. This was very helpful.

@Sethandbeth 3 жыл бұрын

What a great video and a confusing topic. You have such a gift on explaining so clearly tough topics. Thanks for creating!

@MikeWeeks 3 жыл бұрын

Pocket Wizard may have come up with the name Hypersync but the concept of using tail sync is much, much older, Kodak used to sell slow burn flash bulbs to do essentially the same thing about 60 years ago There is loss with Hypersync, just like HSS but the difference is that you do not get the large initial jump so once we get into Hypersync/HSS speeds you notice that drop off is also happening

@ivanmorenosl 3 жыл бұрын

10 ! THANKS !

@dunnymonster 3 жыл бұрын

The best description of hypersync for me is you can call it a slow fat impulse of light as apposed to a fast skinny impulse of light which would be HSS 😃

@clareduffy4079 3 жыл бұрын

Robert, can you tell me what modifier you have on the AD1200 pro?

@fletcherdavies8749 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Rob, any chance of making a video about Hypersync some in relation to starting point (delay) how in relation to shutter speed starting at 1/1000 and perhaps 2000th 4000th. As you are no doubt using hard light, you will be surprised at some of the extra light you can get from certain reflectors that would really surprise users. Many Thanks Fletcher

@yeohszehow 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@gregostudio 3 жыл бұрын

Can you share what triggers and câmera you used? Is there any light wasted due to timing? Havê you used the yn622tx setup ?

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

I use Sony cameras and the R2 Pro II. Not sure on wasted light. Not used the YN622 since 2015.

@phattaxman 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, you speak very rapidly and I'm like, "Wut?"

@karthirckz 3 жыл бұрын

I thought I'm the one who felt that. Lol

@macbaar 3 жыл бұрын

Just... youtube settings... video speed.... 0.75 et voila!

@acraftman2823 3 жыл бұрын

@@macbaar yea so I inadvertently hit 1.25 speedup and went to hypersync, might been Rob's second cup of coffee.

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

And if I talk slower people comment that I need to talk faster. I speak at what's comfortable and thankfully youtube provides speed adjustments to let you adjust it to your liking.

@fjhphoto 3 жыл бұрын

Adjust the speed of the video to your liking. If he spoke slower then I'm sure others would say he needs to make his videos shorter. No pleasing everyone.

@sveinskogen1789 3 жыл бұрын

If I understand this correctly, the "magic" here (including delay and such) happens in the transmitting end of the system. Doesn't this mean that if Godox wanted, they could actually retrofit hypersync into the X1, XPro and X2 with a firmware upgrade, if they wanted?

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

I'm really not sure. Maybe there could be a hypersync mode but it would have to communicate HSS to the camera to allow it to pass it's sync speed, while simultaneously not pushing the HSS signal to the flash. I don't know if their existing design allows for that or not.

@godsakes 3 жыл бұрын

@@robhallphoto Rob, if you have contacts at Godox get them to produce a ad200/300 class of strobe that also offers hypersync at power levels between 1/8 - 1/1 my dream flash

@richardmalmberg7722 Жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell me if XPro F trigger has a delay setting? Can't find it. Do I need to update the firmware (currently 1.0)? Thanks!

@ManishSharma-pp2oh 3 жыл бұрын

X pro not working with ad200 pro.. everything in order.. channel no.. a.b.c.d.e.f... in flash .. trigger Chanel all things in correct order. Ney one know solution . Thanks in advance

@curtisclement 3 жыл бұрын

I’d rather use a ND filter.

@tugwilson 3 жыл бұрын

Elinchrom is steadily discontinuing all the lights and heads that support HiSync the ELB1200 and D-Lite RX4 are the only things left supporting it and neither look long for this world. The rest has moved to HSS.

@kirkdarling4120 3 жыл бұрын

The ironic thing is that hypersync is the exploitation of a laggy T1, which is considered an engineering fault. A highly efficient flash design would expend all of its energy in the shortest possible pulse...which would leave little energy for hypersync.

@josephkrpelan1610 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't the most common goal of hypersyncing the ability to overpower the sun? as you fasten the shutterspeed you take away of the sun's power, but ideally the strobes power stays almost the same, right? it seems you didn't mention this here. hm ...

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the goal of hypersync would be to balance with some bright ambient, with more than just a narrow aperture. In my instance, it's about retaining a high shutter speed to eliminate motion blur from ambient light. Whether in HSS or HS, once the shutter speed is beyond 1/250, reducing the shutter speed will affect the brightness of flash and ambient light in the image. But this is typically offset (vs standard sync) by using a wider aperture. So the strobes power doesn't change, but the light hitting the sensor does.

@stevei3471 2 жыл бұрын

Look's like Silver Lake in Michigan

@richardhopkins3214 3 жыл бұрын

Rob Hall: "The advantage to Hypersync (aka Hi-sync, Supersync, HS) is there is no output loss." This is not true. The flash may be firing normally at full power, but the sensor is partly/mostly blocked by the shutter blinds above x-sync speed. So no part of the sensor receives 100% of the light output: only the bottom of the sensor sees light from the peak of the flash; the middle and top of the sensor receive significantly less light from the fading tail of the flash pulse (it may also change in colour slightly). To see the effect clearly, shoot a plain white wall in a darkened room, but when used outdoors in bright ambient light (pretty much the only time you'd want Hypersync anyway) the uneven exposure of the sensor is often concealed by the ambient - so then it works. I'm not aware of any IGBT-controlled flash that can be used successfully with Hypersync at anything less than full power, and it's always a PITA to rig up and adjust. Basically, you have to be in desperate need of both more flash power AND fast shutter speeds to use Hypersync, otherwise regular High Speed Sync or ND filters are better alternatives.

@galexyphoto5725 3 жыл бұрын

So you agree that it is not a loss of output, which is exactly what he says. The sensors conditions and ability to take in the light doesn't change the actual tangible output of the light. Just like how an ND filter doesn't change the sun's output.

@richardhopkins3214 3 жыл бұрын

@@galexyphoto5725 That's just playing with words. You could say exactly the same thing about High Speed Sync - the full power output is there, but since you can't use it all, it is an effective loss. What you get with Hypersync varies a lot with the flash unit, the camera model (shutter travel time) and the timing off-set (trigger delay), but as a general rule you might expect to lose at least one stop measured around the middle of the frame, with a further one stop reduction at the top. That's at best, it can easily be more. The point is, Hypersync is not a magic bullet - yes, there are advantages in some (unusual) situations, but also downsides and hassle the rest of the time. That's why High Speed Sync is the favoured option, particularly now that suitably powerful strobes are so affordable.

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

There is no output loss is TRUE. As the shutter speed gets shorter the shutter blocks more and more of the light. The shutter blocking light has nothing to do with the output of the flash. In HSS, there is reduced peak brightness (vs standard sync), and you lose brightness as the shutter speed increases, the same way Hypersync does. But the difference in output at any shutter speed is always about identical to the peak brightness drop of HSS.

@richardhopkins3214 3 жыл бұрын

@@robhallphoto To say "there is no output loss" with Hypersync is a misleading choice of words Rob. When a substantial part of the light output cannot reach the sensor, then isn't it lost? Not describing Hypersync clearly and fully fails to explain why HSS has almost universally superseded it.

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

@@richardhopkins3214 I disagree. To me it's the primary way to distinguish it from HSS. HSS emits less peak brightness, period. Then they both lose brightness based on how much they are obstructed by the shutter curtains. This is just like when using an ND, there is no loss of output, even though the light intensity is being reduced by the ND filter. If I were to say Hypersync has output loss, then that means HSS has output loss...twice??? I'm comfortable with how I represented it.

@rodrigoferraoO 3 жыл бұрын

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@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

Wut

@galexyphoto5725 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch the video. But why not just use high speed sync?!?

@JasonVinson183 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@MikeWeeks 3 жыл бұрын

as he says in the video too much power loss with HSS

@Tinfoilnation 2 жыл бұрын

"You can use a 6 stop ND to avoid the power loss of high speed sync" -- So to avoid losing flash power you cut out 6 stops of light? That... makes no sense what-so-ever.

@robhallphoto 2 жыл бұрын

It makes perfect sense. You don't just put on an ND filter and keep shooting, you offset the 6 stops with aperture control to regain the same exposure, instead of cranking up your SS and losing output with HSS. The difference will always be a strobe that is brighter (respective to ambient). And the brightness difference will always be equal to the strobes efficiency loss in HSS. It's explained/shown here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtKknaeTstDIiGQ.html here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7Okpaqh2qnYlmQ.html here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9KclJCmv8uvdpc.html here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndJoibJnrNi1eKs.html