I bought 9 PS3 controllers for $40... how bad could they be?

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@DrPepperone
@DrPepperone Жыл бұрын
The dualshock 3 situation is so tragic. It’s really hard to find genuine ones that aren’t in poor conditions. I wish somebody like 8bitdo would come up with a suitable replacement
@Ren722
@Ren722 Жыл бұрын
I'd buy an 8bitdo clone in a heartbeat :0, Retro Fighters is making PS3 controllers that also work with PS1 and 2, as well as one that has Sixaxis but I hope 8bitdo could try to make a replica of the original with improvements.
@dankolord
@dankolord Жыл бұрын
You could connect a ps4 controller to the ps3 using a mayflash adapter, but the availability of genuine ps4 controllers is almost as questionable as that of dualshock 3's :(
@xXblazmodzXx
@xXblazmodzXx Жыл бұрын
For real. From what I've heard, they're also not in production anymore. Incredibly frustrating. I wish there would be a replacement too, my controllers are Really on their way out..
@SultanOfAwesome
@SultanOfAwesome Жыл бұрын
I've found that the best way to get good ones is to buy a used ps3 with controllers included. I got a transparent blue and pink one for $40. And that's with a ps3
@jamescruz8678
@jamescruz8678 Жыл бұрын
IIRC Mayflash makes an adapter for PS3 so you can connect other controllers to it
@rebindfpv800
@rebindfpv800 Жыл бұрын
The replacement thumb stick that was crazy sensitive may have different max resistance values on its pots. Resulting in hitting the max value the controller expects before hitting the physical limits
@smokinstylish
@smokinstylish Жыл бұрын
It's fake alps thumbstick. They purposely design it with big deadzone to prevent future analog drifting. Unlike the genuine ones, the fake plastic materials easily worn out. Then, analog point movement looks like snapping and skipping, shorter range to max limit caused by physical deadzone from stripped carbon printed on pots.
@ErimlRGG
@ErimlRGG Жыл бұрын
Doubt it since I'm pretty sure thumbstick position is based on voltage reading because the sticks are just potentiometers. So the position is determined by dividing the whole resistor evenly, doesn't matter if it's a 5 ohms potentiometer or 20k ohm potentiometer
@JoQeZzZ
@JoQeZzZ Жыл бұрын
No, the thumbsticks are wired as potentiometers, not rheostats. It is possible the pots have some weird taper though, like a logit or sigmoid shape function where the center is still at 50% voltage, but the taper higher and lower is way off
@elissy1016
@elissy1016 Жыл бұрын
as other have said it works on voltage. However I wouldn't rule it out completely as it could still some how affect the read values. For example maybe there is an internal resistor elsewhere in the circuit affecting said voltage.
@firstsurname9893
@firstsurname9893 Жыл бұрын
@@JoQeZzZ You are 100% correct. The genuine ALPS ThumbPointer™ in PS3 controllers has a B taper (linear) on both pots. Third party versions almost always use cheap inverse log pots which have poor response close to their centre position.
@LucaBlightOfHighland
@LucaBlightOfHighland Жыл бұрын
Actually with the dualshock 1, 2 and 3 the thumbsticks become sticky and oily by themselves due to the chemical deterioration of the rubber, usually after a light cleaning and a few minutes of use they turn out ok again, but if you leave them for months in a drawer they come back sticky again.
@SilverEye91
@SilverEye91 Жыл бұрын
Yup. I believe it's a softner used in the plastic to make them feel comfortable, it can happen with many different similar products. And it's not exactly great for a health standpoint either.
@blackhawk65589
@blackhawk65589 Жыл бұрын
Had this happen to mine back in the day too
@MarcosGarcia-kx4rb
@MarcosGarcia-kx4rb Жыл бұрын
Yes but also no. People is REALLY REALLY dirty or oily by nature. My brother was like that. He left the controllers all sticky
@hydro5168
@hydro5168 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcosGarcia-kx4rb obv this can also be the case but judging by the fact that they're conches sold as untested/for parts it's probably more likely that the sticks were just deteriorating as they do
@startedtech
@startedtech Жыл бұрын
I bought a dualshock 3 about six months ago from a thrift shop, mint condition but was dirty and the thumb sticks were a little funky like that. Hasn't returned since then, though I also haven't really used it.
@AbdAbdAbdAbd
@AbdAbdAbdAbd Жыл бұрын
2:12 the person who tested that controller probably tried using a wall charger (which the official dualshock 3 controllers do not support charging from) and that's why they thought it was not turning on
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
But why would you use a charger that is not supported to test if it works? Well we never know why from the original user
@Kingcloud
@Kingcloud Жыл бұрын
@@tposman1547 because its stolen normally
@detecta
@detecta Жыл бұрын
@@tposman1547 he probably lost the charger
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
@@detecta yeah that makes sense but his only option for checking the controllers is buying working ones
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe he broke the charger that usually works and just doesn't know the charger itself is broken
@polarsbear668
@polarsbear668 Жыл бұрын
Challenge: Play something with the DoubleShock 3's wrongly mapped controls
@TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat
@TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat Жыл бұрын
I would love to take on that challenge.
@memesthatmakemelaughforhou476
@memesthatmakemelaughforhou476 Жыл бұрын
I second this notion
@acidiclight
@acidiclight Жыл бұрын
I actually reached out to Matt and joked about buying the DoubleShock 3 to give to someone as a gag gift lol
@polarsbear668
@polarsbear668 Жыл бұрын
@@acidiclight lol. Did Matt accept? Or even reply?
@acidiclight
@acidiclight Жыл бұрын
@@polarsbear668 He did respond. And we are in fact working out me buying one of the controllers. I could have chosen the double shock but opted for the one with the cracked USB port
@wra45
@wra45 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind if you will have problems with any ps3 controllers that randomly starts sending random inputs to your ps3 is because the sponge that holds the circuit foil lost it's "spongeness". You can fix that with a piece of paper under the sponge. Just in case you encounter this problem.
@Daniel-nb3kk
@Daniel-nb3kk Жыл бұрын
Did that 2 years ago after I received my used controller - worked like a charm!
@Bud55
@Bud55 11 ай бұрын
can I eat the sponge?
@polorchen1592
@polorchen1592 9 ай бұрын
​@@Bud55why not?
@bonemarrow286
@bonemarrow286 5 ай бұрын
​@@Bud55yes it'll give you super powers if you do
@Bud55
@Bud55 5 ай бұрын
​@@bonemarrow286 That is great to hear! I can finally have super powers!
@CyanDumBell_MC
@CyanDumBell_MC Жыл бұрын
you always need to do some re-calibration after a joystick swap since every joystick made differently
@GenesHand
@GenesHand Жыл бұрын
How do you do that?
@atsurokihara5525
@atsurokihara5525 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t calibration be on a hardware level for the replacement parts? I would like to hear how you can do it.
@CyanDumBell_MC
@CyanDumBell_MC Жыл бұрын
@@atsurokihara5525 Most devices should have built game controller calibration on software side. Like in windows, if you type in "Set up USB game controllers" double click on connected controller to pull up the properties and go in settings tab, calibrate button is there. Do note that this is just software side. It's a temporary solution and not a permanent solution, you still need to swap the joystick to near original hardware for permanent fix.
@dotnask0001
@dotnask0001 Жыл бұрын
Are they? Potentiometers are pretty dam standard
@Zack-xu2zw
@Zack-xu2zw 8 ай бұрын
@@CyanDumBell_MC But the question was, how does that work for PS3
@RichHomieBodhi
@RichHomieBodhi Жыл бұрын
I noticed from the used ds3s I've refurbished, a lot of them have this ghost button press issue and that is because the foam used to add pressure to the contacts deteriorates. Adding a layer of tape or paper fixes that issue. It's crazy how hard it is these days to find genuine ds3s.
@Delcaek
@Delcaek Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how I always read that but at least here in Europe, ebay is full of genuine DS3s and Sixaxiseseses. Is that an American thing maybe (I think Matt also moved to the US in the last year IIRC)? I mean we also get the 15 bucks oRiGiNaL new in box controllers from China that say Sony, but out of the maybe 30 DS3 I bought used or faulty in 2022 I got two fakes.
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 11 ай бұрын
wtf is a ds3
@Redemption_882
@Redemption_882 11 ай бұрын
@@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem DS3 stands for DualShock 3
@bulutcagdas1071
@bulutcagdas1071 11 ай бұрын
@@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem Demon's Souls 3
@whiterabbit8243
@whiterabbit8243 9 ай бұрын
@@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem doubleshock 3
@kimstech
@kimstech Жыл бұрын
6:06 F is a Shanwan controller which I believe requires custom builds of drivers for both Windows and Linux for BT and proper mapping. LED 3 also works but just doesn’t light up while pairing. Suddenly got PTSD from the hassle on making those work on pc
@Drflash55Official
@Drflash55Official Жыл бұрын
My gosh... I wouldn't even know what I would do with myself if I was stuck having to try to use one of these for playing games on my PC.
@DDMultitracks
@DDMultitracks 11 ай бұрын
I had one that looked similar. Mine used a usb dongle.
@lookitskazzy
@lookitskazzy Жыл бұрын
The 2.4 GHz controller probably doesn't use BT to avoid license fees, but 2.4 GHz is in many cases more performant than a BT controller (less input lag).
@dieSpinnt
@dieSpinnt Жыл бұрын
First 2.45 GHz is the Bluetooth Frequency. Then the BT-Receiver and the proprietary 2.4GHz dongle each have to be connected to the system via a BUS. - Usual input lag of PS3 Dual Shock Controllers: Around 20 to 25ms. - Usual USB input lag (protocol overhead) for our 2.4GHz/USB combo: 10 to 20ms + the unknown protocol lag (typically 10-30ms for example for an 8BitDo 2.4G controller). So you are right, if you just ignore the USB bottleneck of 2.4GHz input devices. But what does it matter anyway? Do you know a superhuman that has that kind of reaction time or sensibilities? And when someone says he will "feel" a difference, then you know for sure he is pretending that, lying to himself or has the brain of a housefly(yeah, their brain work in that territory:) )[1]. Also: Faster speeds aren't necessary at all. Bad experience may come from broken or glitchy devices, bad game loop design or your one coffee too much:) Have fun gaming! [1] We are on the internet. I can bet that the first superhuman is not far away. But I give a s! Science and Measurements beat Feelings. Period! For further study: "RL input lag retested 1.44 - Rocket Science #15" by Rocket Science, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9J2i69825momIE.html ; "Controller Lag" at inputlag science; "THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN REACTION TIME AND GAMING TIME IN E-SPORTS PLAYERS", Aybuke Ersin et. al., 2022.
@Coomway
@Coomway Жыл бұрын
@@dieSpinnt 🤓
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem
@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 11 ай бұрын
@@Coomway agreeed
@3of12
@3of12 11 ай бұрын
This is correct. Its in the 2.4GHz spectrum but its not wifi either, in case anyone was wondering. If it was, you'd have enormous interference from various wireless keyboards and mice and whatnot.
@blarghblargh
@blarghblargh 8 ай бұрын
on 3d consoles, games often have an input design that hides latency. lumbering acceleration, turn around animations, etc. on retro 2d games that ran at a pretty solid 60fps, with a CRT or low latency LCD, you WILL notice the difference in latency. it doesn't require you to be superhuman. it just requires you to be familiar with the game, using a low latency controller.
@nessiscool1236
@nessiscool1236 Жыл бұрын
Really cool how you got 3 ps3’s for 50 and now 9 ps3 controllers for 40. Nice vid
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
90 dollar wombo combo package for Christmas. What a present
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn Жыл бұрын
@@tposman1547 now he just needs a huge ps3 game lot with cheap scratched discs, fix them up and boom, ps3 gaming on original hardware on a budget
@chinossynthesizer705
@chinossynthesizer705 Жыл бұрын
@@HearMeLearn you can just jail break a ps3 and get free games lol
@chinossynthesizer705
@chinossynthesizer705 Жыл бұрын
@@cinder3150 but you can't play ps3 games online with it. if you emulate
@namesurname4666
@namesurname4666 Жыл бұрын
@@HearMeLearn can you fix scratched discs?
@nikolan123
@nikolan123 Жыл бұрын
Next up: I bought 81 broken TVs for $30… how bad could they be?
@JohnGotts
@JohnGotts Жыл бұрын
I taught myself how to fix PS3 controllers and I learned a lot in the process. Initially it would appear that there are two controller types, with and without vibration. The reality is that there are at least 5 variants that I found, and they don't interchange parts, even with identical model numbers. Not even the battery interchanges perfectly.
@winlover37
@winlover37 9 ай бұрын
That sounds like a nightmare. I hate non interchangable parts.
@noahboat580
@noahboat580 7 ай бұрын
So you would need the same variant of controller to interchange the parts, regardless of them being near-identical? I had that samr problem when i tried changing a fan in my gaming laptop, the one i needed to replace was fine but the other fan's outer plastics that you have to skrew in, one of them wasnt made correctly. It was already hard enough not being familiar replacing pc parts (especially one in an MSI laptop, but that took a good minute realising lol
@Blazestar2000
@Blazestar2000 Жыл бұрын
Today I have learned not to solder ribbon cables :) lol This channel always gives me a renewed confidence to get out there are start repairing any old tech I've got! Matt's channel is what made me decide to give repairing N64 cartridges a shot and, sure enough, I got my first one working again on my first try :D Thanks for the videos and being an inspiration to get in and tinker with our own hardware! :)
@AidanBenny
@AidanBenny Жыл бұрын
The clear controller I know needs a USB receiver that you plug into the ps3. one of my once friend had the same one
@jaykoerner
@jaykoerner Жыл бұрын
Yep Sony didn't allow 3rd party Bluetooth controllers, anything supported that needed to be wireless had to use USB for Sony to allow it, the 3rd party Bluetooth stuff came way later against sonys wishes
@JDHIII3
@JDHIII3 Жыл бұрын
Was about to say the same I have that controller
@-Hazard-
@-Hazard- Жыл бұрын
All pots have different readings, so you have to closely match it as best as you can since the pots that were on there is what they used to calibrate it at the factory
@FlipaClipDude340
@FlipaClipDude340 Жыл бұрын
Vat ny
@thecoldlemonade3532
@thecoldlemonade3532 Жыл бұрын
I love your content. It's super fun binging your videos and learning at the same time!
@nukelauncher95
@nukelauncher95 Жыл бұрын
They made some very convincing knock off DualShock 3s. I have a knockoff that is a nearly perfect copy inside and out, and the plastic casting and silkscreening is flawless, however it doesn't work in the PS3's safe mode. I've actually never come across any counterfeit DS3 that works in safe mode, so maybe you can test the supposedly genuine controllers to see if they're actually legit.
@mmm-mmm
@mmm-mmm 3 ай бұрын
also, the screws used to hold them together are usually wood screws instead of machine screws.
@kyleferguson9285
@kyleferguson9285 Жыл бұрын
The 4 pin joystick is a hall effect joystick, which uses magnets to measure stick movement. The 3 pin joysticks are standard alpine potentiometer modules.
@kyleferguson9285
@kyleferguson9285 Жыл бұрын
The hall effect joysticks are basically immune to joystick drift, which is caused by debris getting between the potentiometer contacts and disrupting resistance measurements. Hall effect joysticks use magnetic strength to measure joystick movement, which is unaffected by all the grime and debris as there are no required points of electrical contact
@danoV1c
@danoV1c Жыл бұрын
It's still somewhat scummy that Microsoft and Sony still use potentiometer joysticks rather than hall effect ones, cause the sole reason I'd imagine they're not using hall effect is so the potentiometer joysticks would breakdown and they could sell new controllers
@martinytcz1762
@martinytcz1762 Жыл бұрын
@@danoV1c And I'd imagine that they're cheaper to manufacture too :D
@danoV1c
@danoV1c Жыл бұрын
@@martinytcz1762 most definitely, but I'd gladly pay 20 dollars more for OEM controllers if they had holo joysticks, which reminds me of the fact that Xbox Elite controllers used potentiometers and drift really badly for a controller that's worth 150 bucks that's just scummy
@nhand42
@nhand42 Жыл бұрын
The 4-pin thumbsticks are magnetic but they are NOT hall effect. They have a traditional resistive track and a traditional swiper but the whole mechanism is sealed behind some epoxy. There is a magnet on the outside that spins the swiper without physical contact. But the swiper still physically contacts the resistive track and they wear out just the same. The point of the magnetic mechanism is to seal the track/swiper away from dust and water. It was a dumb idea. Hall effect is superior in every way.
@TiwidTV
@TiwidTV Жыл бұрын
the weird thumbprint on the joystick on the 1st controller is 100% certain from someone stepping on it. been there done that!
@Ren722
@Ren722 Жыл бұрын
PS3 controllers are so complicated in getting nowadays, I went from thinking my PS3 controller couldn't connect wirelessly on any console, to having to find used genuine controllers in great condition since Ebay is bombarded with knockoffs that look exactly like an official controller, thankfully I'm near a Book-Off in the states and was able to snatch any PS3 controllers they sold, also with verifying myself if it's genuine and in great condition while buying extra brand new PS4 controllers so I don't make that mistake again lol.
@KacKLaPPeN23
@KacKLaPPeN23 Жыл бұрын
They have Book-Offs in the states? I loved browsing through those stores in Japan.
@LLInnovA
@LLInnovA Жыл бұрын
I drove by one in San Diego on vacation a few days ago. I was just as shocked as you were
@Ren722
@Ren722 Жыл бұрын
@@LLInnovA NO JOKE THAT'S ACTUALLY MY LOCAL BOOK-OFF 😂😂
@simtitan1
@simtitan1 Жыл бұрын
You have to be careful, some of the controllers that look official may not be. They sell third party controllers that look genuine, but use knock off parts. Also, a little trick I learned with the sticky thumb sticks is to clean them with a q tip dipped in goo gone, it makes them feel so much better.
@xbox21player
@xbox21player Жыл бұрын
The clear ps3 controller has no issues. It's actually comes with a separate USB dongle, without it it just a paperweight. I have that same controller
@grumpywolfgaming
@grumpywolfgaming Жыл бұрын
I came to the comments just to say the same thing. Lots of after market controllers are like that, especially from that era.
@patg108
@patg108 Жыл бұрын
@@grumpywolfgaming its a 3rd party not technically aftermarket. Meaning it was made during the era as a cheaper alternative.
@elbeenny
@elbeenny Жыл бұрын
I’m very happy seeing people repair old electronics🤗
@FliwaTV
@FliwaTV Жыл бұрын
Super interesting Video again as always Matt! its almost like being in a room with you, trying to figure out whats wrong with the controllers. Thank you very much and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year!
@robertpucovsky
@robertpucovsky Жыл бұрын
You got lucky. That is a damn good deal. And oh yeah, I also messed up one PS3 controller by trying to solder on that membrane. Merry Christmas!
@danielyaseen
@danielyaseen Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!!!!!
@KhaiGK
@KhaiGK Жыл бұрын
Where's my gift?
@husseinalhaidari5414
@husseinalhaidari5414 Жыл бұрын
You too
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the wombo combo videos of broken ps3 tech. What a Christmas present
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
@@KhaiGK this video bro!
@PlantGentlemen
@PlantGentlemen Жыл бұрын
No I will not have a merry Christmas
@sulliops
@sulliops Жыл бұрын
Matt has become my favorite KZfaqr by far, his videos are always so interesting and I end up learning something every time. Keep it up!
@K9arcade
@K9arcade Жыл бұрын
Felt right at home watching this since I fix DS2/DS3 controllers all the time haha. Was a nice refresher on what i'd go through fixing them and the mistakes I've made along the way. Thanks Matt for the christmas/birthday gift 📼🎄🎅🦌
@Saand1338
@Saand1338 Жыл бұрын
I hope you're able to get those sixaxis controllers working again. There's something about their lighter weight that makes them feel right. The DS3 is a solid controller, but I've got a soft spot for the sixaxis.
@sagas070707
@sagas070707 Жыл бұрын
Me too and battery lasts longer then a DS3
@railpao
@railpao Жыл бұрын
You just gave me the inspiration needed to reassemble a box of 3-4 dismantled dualshock 3 my brother got few years ago to fix his.
@thelegendofkingdoify
@thelegendofkingdoify Жыл бұрын
Best christmas gift I could get honestly, I absolutely love your channel ever since I found it, thank you for your content and Merry Christmas!
@OfAaron3
@OfAaron3 Жыл бұрын
With those film cables, I find that heating using a heat gun can sometimes repair them. A common fault in the original Gameboy (missing lines on the display) can be fixed by applying heat to the film cable connected to the screen.
@w0lf4llo84
@w0lf4llo84 Жыл бұрын
I know you’ll probably never see this and idk if you fixed it as I’m not far into the video. But for controller B nothings wrong with the actual controller itself. There’s this foam pad that puts pressure on the ribbon cable to make contact to the board. Over time the pad deteriorates and stops making contact. You just have to add more bulk to it. What I did was take this pad out and add a couple cut down to size pieces of tape and flipped it back over so the foam pad was sticking up still and the tape was on the back side. After you do that just reassemble the controller and it should work as good as new! Cant tell you how many times I had to do this fix. But hey, it works lol EDIT: nevermind, you fixed it with mounting tape.. but if you ever have a similar issue or buttons are pressing themselves on any controller try this fix as it’s most likely the issue :)
@bettermanlamia
@bettermanlamia Жыл бұрын
I love seeing you try to fix the film. I always wondered how those could be repaired if at all but now I know you can’t soldier them lol 10/10
@TheModSmith
@TheModSmith Жыл бұрын
There's nothing like seeing a new MattKC video pop up in my inbox!
@WhiskeyInspekta
@WhiskeyInspekta Жыл бұрын
That clear controller probably needs a receiver to work with the PS3. I owned one back in the day and i feel like i remember needing one of those dongles. But i could be mistaken with a power A controller i owned.
@deadchannel991
@deadchannel991 Жыл бұрын
Nope you’re right it’s supposed to have a usb dongle
@devan_danger
@devan_danger Жыл бұрын
When I go through the process of refurbishing old controllers I always disassemble and bathe all the plastic parts in a water alcohol bath while scrubbing any grime with an old toothbrush. The alcohol makes them dry quickly and they always come out squeaky clean just like new. Its a really simple process for converting old used controllers into viable refurbished ones that feel and operate like new
@eenayeah
@eenayeah Жыл бұрын
I just watched the PS3 one yesterday and now you put this one out today. Such comfort videos! MattKC videos are so cozy!
@Manjustman_25806
@Manjustman_25806 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Matt keep up that fantastic work man
@isaactrockman4417
@isaactrockman4417 Жыл бұрын
My parents bought a ps3 and two controllers new. They still use it as a Netflix/prime/Hulu machine. Everything still works. I had no idea this stuff is “vintage” or collectible, doesn’t feel that old to me. Or that so many of the ps3s and controllers don’t work anymore
@Grandmaster-Kush
@Grandmaster-Kush Жыл бұрын
Yeah the PS3 controllers 1st party atleast in my country are out of stock even refurbished, so only 2nd hand which means mint condition controllers are VERY hard to get your hands on, they fetch an equal price to DS4, hardware degradation is very harsh on the DS3 since it is one of the cheapest build dualshocks.
@sunnohh
@sunnohh Жыл бұрын
These things are so damn hard to work on, I did it once and promptly started squirreling away very nice ones
@savagetheunicorn4555
@savagetheunicorn4555 Жыл бұрын
You've been uploading more, glad to see you're doing good :) I've been subbed for a few years haha love the content!
@M4TTYN
@M4TTYN Жыл бұрын
keep popping up in my side bar and your content is pretty cool lots of wacky fun, surprises and see you tinker on retro consoles!
@RBVJnt
@RBVJnt Жыл бұрын
love how it says untested but the controllers have notes with their faults
@AdamBGames
@AdamBGames Жыл бұрын
14:15 Yep, been an engineer and Hobbyist for over 10 years and even I made that mistake my first time working with one of these. Its a lesson we all learn eventually.
@user-in1gv1uh2v
@user-in1gv1uh2v 3 ай бұрын
How do you do this without messing it up?
@beekats
@beekats Жыл бұрын
best christmas present, i always love your videos!
@coolest10293
@coolest10293 Жыл бұрын
This is a great Christmas present!! Thanks Matt!
@Shadow79XXX
@Shadow79XXX Жыл бұрын
i have one of the same clear ones and i gotta say they feel pretty nice, but mine had the need for a usb to plug into the ps3 (like a wireless mouse) which doesn't help much, and the l2/r2 buttons aren't very well made and fall off easily, i had 2 and the l2 fell off on one and the r2 fell off on the other, and the lighting up was nice, even if its a single colour (per controller) edit, the problem with your clear one might also be a missing wireless usb dongle, to check just look between the bases of the thumbstucks for a usb dongle holder built into the controller
@HaosKitsune
@HaosKitsune Жыл бұрын
The 2,4Ghz Wireless/WiFi connection over Bluetooth makes some sense for the battery powered one as it can be designed to require lot less power, so far all gamepads I seen which offers both Bluetooth and 2.4Ghz connectivity usually had much better battery-life with the 2.4Ghz - USB remote connection.
@resneptacle
@resneptacle Жыл бұрын
But both use the same frequency (2.4GHz) and pretty much the same radio, Bluetooth can be adjusted in transmission power as well
@HaosKitsune
@HaosKitsune Жыл бұрын
@@resneptacle Bluetooth is pretty much just a 2.4Ghz technology standard, so they can even use the same radio module in the controller both for Bluetooth and 2.4Ghz, without using Bluetooth they can just use another transmission algorithm which may (or may not) be more power efficient, another possible way is having the USB dongle have a more powerful receiver&transmitter so the controller could use lower power to communicate. I don't have an exact idea why/how N2.4Ghz in many controller are more power efficient than Bluetooth, it's something which I observed myself with my gamepads and also what is written on some gamepad's official manuals. (The ones with multiple modes and battery-life comparison)
@Kylefassbinderful
@Kylefassbinderful Жыл бұрын
New *MattKC* _AND_ *Technology* *Connections* videos today? A great Christmas indeed!
@hhwilly-ng
@hhwilly-ng Ай бұрын
I was in need of a sixaxis controller for my pc and ended up buying a used PS3 with 10 games and 3 controllers, all of which are mostly working but only one is fit for use. This video is great for getting into overhauling those controllers, and I love watching electronics repairs on youtube. Subbed!
@sebasvegab3720
@sebasvegab3720 Жыл бұрын
Next video: i bought 20 power supplies for 3 dollars
@aprilnya
@aprilnya Жыл бұрын
NO NO NO NO BAD IDEA BAD IDEA
@tposman1547
@tposman1547 Жыл бұрын
That video would be a big explosion
@nxx99
@nxx99 Жыл бұрын
hehehe, but it's hard to repair them without putting yourself in danger
@ThePsychoticWombat
@ThePsychoticWombat Жыл бұрын
I bought 15 controllers for about the same, 5 just worked perfectly, got another 4 working after switching parts around, 3 of them where Chinese copies, got one of them working, the remaining had problems that probably needs more in depth work, gave them away so someone else could have a shot :)
@Flegz1
@Flegz1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Keep up the great work!
@tybread2997
@tybread2997 Жыл бұрын
When replacing the conductive film, you want to match the part number. For one of my controllers, I ended up having to order a replacement from France because they were the only seller that had it. After repairing a fair amount of the PS3 controllers, I noticed that there are so many different revisions. Trying to match even the shell doesn't always work. Most of the time cleaning them resolved the issues, but there was a good amount that just needed the foam replaced for the back pressure for the film to come in contact with the PCB.
@qoxx
@qoxx Жыл бұрын
man i remember when these were worth $70...
@undefined06855
@undefined06855 Жыл бұрын
Matt saying "You sussy baka" is very cursed. Please carry on saying sussy sundae instead.
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH Жыл бұрын
These PS3 videos were timed well since I've taken an interest in my own PS3s as of late (after picking up a CECHB a couple of weeks ago). I've got some hybrid drives on order to upgrade all of them.
@Electrolux219
@Electrolux219 Жыл бұрын
YOOOO I had that exact same blue clear one!! It actually felt pretty good to use as I remember. In fact the triggers where more comfortable than the official controller
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs Жыл бұрын
I always add a piece of paper under that little foam pad that holds the flex connector against the board. The controllers start pressing random buttons as they age due to that pad compressing over time.
@Huskmini
@Huskmini Жыл бұрын
always love to see you've uploaded a video, thanks
@marksanchez7575
@marksanchez7575 Жыл бұрын
It brings me instant satisfaction when I always see MattKC upload a cold one 😎
@Flegz1
@Flegz1 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, Matt!
@bama95
@bama95 Жыл бұрын
Controller A has the same problem I had with my ps2 controller ✌️ basically the thumbstick has widened the round hole on the plastic front panel over the years. The thumbstick has literally dug in the plastic and there is no real solution other than changing the front panel. You can see the difference in widthness between the two sides in the round black profile around the hole. Great video as usual 😉
@sleepyancient6655
@sleepyancient6655 Жыл бұрын
One controller I fixed was the thumb stick having slid off its post... with no damage to any other part of the controller. It's like the plastic casing around the opening flexed over 1/4" (or however long the post is) without cracking or plastic deformation (permanent deformation).
@shayes.x
@shayes.x Жыл бұрын
5:50 While this is possibly/likely a mapping issue (I'm not expert), it brings to mind an issue I had with my main DualShock 4. Eventually, whenever the left trigger was pulled, the left joystick would also send signals as if it was pushed forward. Cleaning the joystick's conductive axis pads fixed it for me, not sure why that was linked to the trigger though.
@PixeldGlitch
@PixeldGlitch Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas matt
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 Жыл бұрын
Man I still have one DualShock 3 controller that I used for a long time, plus PlayStation Move stuff that I would experiment soon. Merry Christmas MattKC.
@pv8685
@pv8685 Жыл бұрын
a friend of mine had the connection issue too. a push on the small reset button in the tiny hole on the bottom side fixed it!
@zerou24
@zerou24 Жыл бұрын
YES thanks for the Video an merry christmas
@jaydubb01
@jaydubb01 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Matt!
@UmbraAtrox_
@UmbraAtrox_ 8 ай бұрын
You Can solder ribbon cables, but you need a little iron for that. A pinecil with a fine tip already would do the trick
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 Ай бұрын
18:20 Different consoles / controller revisions/generations uses different potentiometer resistances. You have to buy the stick with the right potentiometer resistances for it to work properly. 10k and 2.3k are the most common but there is 5k ones. There is also the range of motion of the potentiometer. 45° and 60° are the most common but there is 90° ones. And there is also the tipe of the potentiometer. A for taper and B for linear.
@notfavorite
@notfavorite Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Matt! Hope you have a good day
@ItsaShower
@ItsaShower Жыл бұрын
The clear one I assume would need a wireless receiver. I bought an afterglow wireless that came with a wireless dongle. So it could be that
@PoseidonWasTaken
@PoseidonWasTaken Жыл бұрын
What a great Christmas present! Thanks Matt for the video!
@crashniels
@crashniels Жыл бұрын
Also look into type C modding them. I modded one of mine and am going to do the next one soon
@onasazi
@onasazi Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays Matt!
@rix_s4112
@rix_s4112 Жыл бұрын
Happy christmas and new year Matt. Will be waiting for more "stupid", cool, intresting videos next year.
@CarlosEduardo-oo4tf
@CarlosEduardo-oo4tf Жыл бұрын
i love having lunch when u post videos and u r posting a lot recently
@rpatros
@rpatros Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Matt and happy new year
@guitarhero918
@guitarhero918 Жыл бұрын
This guy is a hilarious console repair KZfaqr. Coming from Tronicsfix serious tone to this lighthearted humor is undeniably amazing
@ratedRblazin420
@ratedRblazin420 12 күн бұрын
I loved these controllers for one reason and one game only, NBA 2K18 (or any NBA 2K game on PS3). I loved the free-throw mechanic that those six-axis controllers had. It made competitive local games so much better.
@mrunderscorecool
@mrunderscorecool Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd recommend not touching those flat flex type circuits with anything hotter than a hair dryer. Even if you don't burn them sometimes the substrate is not very happy with large temp changes and will shrink, causing breaks in your traces. Bit of trivia: the reason they use silver-based repair materials is because silver is more conductive than copper, and the way those ecas/ inks are formed make them VERY resistive compared to straight copper traces
@chmelys
@chmelys Жыл бұрын
Bro you uploaded a video just when i was looking if you uploaded anything new :D
@brandonlehman7440
@brandonlehman7440 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas MattKC
@counterhit148
@counterhit148 Жыл бұрын
4 pin potentiometers are actually magnetic, so they probably work fine. You should try using those potentiometers with another stick module
@user-mu8xp2lr9n
@user-mu8xp2lr9n Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Matt!!🍰
@GuntanksInSpace
@GuntanksInSpace Жыл бұрын
Yo what did Matt use for the controller diagnostics screen? Also yeah, that's definitely the "finding a DS3 replacement" experience. Always a gamble if it's flawless or not.
@General12th
@General12th Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt! I love all your videos!
@Dark-bm8qd
@Dark-bm8qd Ай бұрын
the one who can light up with the house home button is one of my fav controller its so good on the hand i miss this controller it sadly broke we had 2 of them
@Dark-bm8qd
@Dark-bm8qd Ай бұрын
and this controller doesent connect cause its with usb
@robbertlw9610
@robbertlw9610 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@martinsamuelsson2322
@martinsamuelsson2322 Жыл бұрын
The new joystick that isnt moving smoothly is most propably due to cheap pots, you can have a look on the carbon path inside the pots, I've seen all kinds, they need to be uniform to work as intended. I buy my sticks from mouser/digikey
@aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa
@aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
18:07 The issue with the analog sticks here is that because they're Third Party replacements, the potentiometers (the green gear on the sides) is lower quality than the official Sony potentiometers The reason for that still mystifies me, as this is an issue NO ONE talks about online (outside of stick drift repair videos, I wanted to improve the analog sticks on a 3rd party bootleg controller) , and I've suffered a lot myself to solve it, and to this day I'm still not wholly sure BUT BASICALY A potentiometer has a little copper piece with a ridge that rubs against a graphite "arc" inside the green piece that increases the voltage between the pins on the left and the right, stick drift happens either because the graphite in the arc wore out, or if the voltage suddenly changed between the pins. Official controllers have a lot more material on the "arc" which makes it so they're way more precise than third party alternatives THE SOLUTION (thankfully) I've tested it myself using a bootleg PS2 controller. Basicaly, I have a bunch of dead PS2 H controllers I couldn't for the life of me fix, so what I did was quite literally desolder the analog sticks off and snap off the potentiometers and snap them in the bootleg controller, which to my amazement sealed the deal and turned a bootleg controller almost as good as an original. If you have some broken official controllers laying around and they had good sticks, I don't see no reason why you shouldn't salvage the analog potentiometers off them.
@timeless2996
@timeless2996 Жыл бұрын
I've been replacing joystick modules on Xbox360 controllers for quite some time now, but never been able to find good replacements. What I normally do is swap the potentiometers of the original with the aftermarket assembly. This almost always restores full functionality of the joysticks as it's most of the time the mechanical parts that wear out. This would probably also work for any other controller.
@beerskiproductions3868
@beerskiproductions3868 Жыл бұрын
6:35 I have a very similar controller and the reason it's not working is because there's usually a USB wireless plug-in for it, looks like you didn't get the one thing that made it functional
@isakthehackervlogs
@isakthehackervlogs Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and Happy new year 🎉🎅🎄
@BrentBlueAllen
@BrentBlueAllen Жыл бұрын
You can replace just the carbon resistance parts instead of the full assemblies. You can check out Ben Heck's video "Let's Examine Stick Drift" for an example of this process.
@shadedisplayed
@shadedisplayed Жыл бұрын
It’s always a good day when mattkc uploads
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