oh my god that last round was just, the most amazing thing he has ever recorded. him just so confident in his two tesla towers like that was the sole reason he lost every other run

It's great seeing NL be completely terrible at a game. His hubris while making terrible plays amazes.

Getting some sort of slow ability is super important in this game. Whether it comes from ballistas (The final tier of the Ballista Slow, where each shot has a 3% chance to briefly freeze the target in his tracks, is incredibly good against bosses) or from Crippling Cough (Slow for 5% of total poison damage, good with Poison Sprayers) or from Slow Towers. Being able to slow down the waves in kill zones is a force multiplier on all your other damage.

You needed to put down at least 1 poison sprayer at spawns and chokes because the DOT upgrades you had would’ve done work even if the tower was level 1.

If you don't like the run length I'd recommend downloading a mod that can increase game speed and adds a pause function. Doing that made the game way more enjoyable for me and it sounds like it would help you as well.

Im sure baby and both of cats will beat level 45 before NL.

Holy shit, watching this series is gonna drive me insane... why the hell would he not put down another shredder at the end?

I think the going wide on tower selection may be holding you back. Pollutes upgrade pool

In regards to the "Lisa" analogy, something I really want to say to help with the understanding of just TD's in general, is you prioritize height bonus's to good positioning. There are tons and tons of +0 and +1 spots that are infinitely better than a +3 on the wrong side of the lane. You have to take into account coverage, and if your +3 only gives you 3 second of creep run time, where as a +1 gives you 6 seconds, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

just sitting here watch him watch himself lose without spending the 10k to not lose

Placing second tesla on ground level instead of +3 ten feet away because NL secretly doesn't want to ever stop playing this game

Elden Ring streams and VODs are amazing, but there’s just something about that “At Everybody” that fills my dopamine reservoir

I can't get over the tesla coil placement. He had a godly +3 height corner at the end he could have put a tesla on, but he puts it on level 0 ground where it can only hit like 3 tiles.

It is a really long game...mostly because there's like 2 straggling enemies on the board that you have to wait 5 minutes for. I tend to just start a round and then do other stuff and then get back to it when i remember.

love the Rogue Tower never stop please I literally pass away if you ever stop

I think whoever told NL that Obelisks are OP was trying to make this series run for a bit longer. NL doesnt like to upgrade his towers, and he prefers to create a plethora of many. That playstyle doesnt work with obelisks, because they are mana intensive, and have an insane rate of fire with low base damage, meaning they benefit the most from upgrades, and are no good at base level in the late game, theyre just an insane waste of resources if used by a player like NL.

Dude. Poison sprayers are the key, I’m telling you. They got me my win. A handful, or even a pair, of “most shield” poison sprayers in the final stretch MIGHT have saved you there, and more overall, a few targeting most armor, in the choke point could’ve made that choke impassible. Good luck though man, loving these videos and looking forward to seeing you get the dub

It kills me that he watches them get close enough to think he's in trouble, doesn't do anything to help, then they get close enough he realizes his current towers aren't enough, still he watches as he dies with 11K in the bank

If youre going to get the mana banks, you need to get sorcery as well. otherwise youre just wasting 400 gold each time over a siphon

honestly a big help would be always putting the tesla coil on the highest point of the curves that poison spray you put down early was in a place where the tesla coil could be hitting the whole thing instead its hitting third of what it would have been

verbally exclaimed when i saw this hit the inbox

This is why I sub to NL, to see him struggle with strategy games. This and FTL, so good

Best line of the night "Life comes at you fast"

When he said “You’re done” like he read it from chat made me check if it was a VOD again lol

For the long runs: You can easily install a game speed mod which speeds up the game by up to 5 times properly You need the BepInEx Rogue Tower mod copied into the games directory to enable mods And then the Rogue Tower SpeedControls Mod copied into the plugins folder of the BepInEx folder to activate the speed controls

I downloaded the game cause I thought maybe it's actually really hard to win, just to give NL the benefit of the doubt. Uh, I think NL just doesn't have the tower defense gene or something, lol. Radar is pog for bosses, btw.

NL saying "we're adjusting to the game as it's presenting itself" as he does not adjust and promptly loses with 12k in the bank. Top tier content.

7:10 He is finally learning that a diverse tower comp is worse than taking a few good ones? :o

At the end he said "Particle cannons, great work" but he was looking at the obelisk numbers. That cannot be good for his ability to play the game well in the future.

One of the biggest pieces of advice I can also give is don’t think of any tower in particular as like a certain damage type of tower. Almost every tower can be good at doing damage to shield, armor and health.

I'm probably bad & it might not be correct, but I'd demolish & swap out a couple of the ballistas at base with particle cannons once you unlock, & leave them on progress - they'd level up shooting stuff, & pack a huge punch for stuff that gets close, plus they'd still generate the gold from the houses (& maybe more than the ballistas due to them levelling on their own?)

NL: “I gotta not take so many towers and upgrade a select few” Also NL: *has every tower and no tower is near lvl 50*

Portals will only spawn in 2 situations: 1. you have enough open paths that if they all become portals next time you expand them, you'll get to exactly level 45, or 2. The path cannot continue in any direction

man i'd love to see this game on the switch. would be an instant buy for me

Sorcery is one of the best upgrades imo. On round one it’s 2 extra mana. If he had taken it on round 24 like he could have it would have been +9 mana. Then it scales from there. Sorcery 3 is an extra 6% of your total mana cost. So it’s so much extra mana.

Rogue Tower is back on the menu baby!

I think realizing that you don't need to, and indeed probably shouldn't, only prioritize what a tower is naturally "good" at when upgrading is a big step forward, as is focusing your damage output on the part of the map that every enemy has to pass through rather than sprawling outwards and having towers that only hit a few lanes. The last lesson that I think could finally get you over the wall is to pay attention to which cards allow other cards to be added to the pool. A lot of really good cards, like extra DoTs and range upgrades, will never even show up unless you get the +1 damage upgrades for single tower types that seem like a weak option when viewed in a vaccum. Studying how the different cards are arranged on the upgrade screen can help you figure out what different prerequisite paths look like, but as a general rule, it's way better to make your existing towers stronger than it is to get new tower types, specifically because of prerequisite paths.

It mostly comes down to you picking too many towers, choosing quantity over quality, not focusing on a damage type for your towers, and not prioritizing correctly. Upgrades for certain towers don't pop up unless you grab that tower. So if you get a mortar, three upgrades for it's +1 health, armor and shield will start popping up when you pick a card. So if you're not really going to use a tower much, I don't recommend getting it at all. You'll get less chances to see the cards you need if there are 10 "+1 health damage to this specific tower!" cards floating around. Even if it's a tower like the tesla, priorities will make the tower "target" a certain enemy, which increases the exp towards the damage type. For example, a tesla set to highest shield will "target" the highest shield. Even though it doesn't affect it's attacks at all, it will slowly build up towards getting the next level of shield. If you don't have a priority, it will just gain exp for whatever unit is in front, which could be anything. Focusing on a damage type on towers is recommended. For example, you can have a poison tower that is leveled in shields only, an obelisk that is focused in leveling armor damage and a shredder that focuses on health damage. That way the poison tower can clear out the shields, the obelisk can clear out the armor and the shredder can clear out the health. I'd go into more detail but I already don't think you'd even read this far in the first place. Thank you if you did and I'd be glad to elaborate more if you'd like. While I haven't tried 3 lane because it seems tedious, I have beaten 2 lanes so I believe I can assist and mentor a young grasshopper who struggles with one lane. (It would be fun to see a friend of yours helping you out for a vid)

easyest way to win 1 lane? : focus on ballistas with all the different types of dots, shredders, and a few planes. just put down a ton of ballistas, give them every upgrade imaginable, and let the planes handle the bosses

NL”I’m not gonna change very targeting bc I’m not that detailed oriented” Also NL *rages every time he accidentally missed an Ox melon armor in SAP

Beat 3 way defence. I find poison and frost towers are essential for beating the game. Radar is also the best boss killer and a bunch of obelisks near the entrance to your base is great defence against creatures that slip through.

It's like he forgot to play the game at the end, just watched it happen in slow motion. "I think I'm guna lose" yet makes no moves to try and save himself

Just beat my first 1 path run and here was my algorithm: Grab Towers you want early over upgrades you want. You're gonna regret not grabbing that particle cannon on turn 3 when it doesn't show up again because your upgrade pool is diluted with useless cards. The only time this rule should be broken is if Banditry shows up. It is a MUST TAKE for the early-mid game to go smoothly. First and second levels are essential. Third level is optional. You need to apply as many DOTs on the enemies as they spawn in as you can, or at least have a killbox for the sole purpose of crowd control DOTs like the Shredder, Poison Thrower and Fire Thrower. This ensures that the enemies can't heal at all and lose health as they go along. If the crowd control killbox is good enough, you'll even kill off the fodder units in the later rounds just by DOT alone. Radars are the boss killers in this game. Hands down, it is busted. One Radar kills first boss at the spawn. Two Radars kill the second with some help, and I'd say that 7+ can kill the final boss on their own but don't quote me on that. They just feel very strong in the boss killing department, especially if you set them to 'Most Health' and leave it at that. They will also pick off tanky units very reliably. Mana becomes a joke in the endgame. You really can get to a point where Mana is an afterthought. Just keep an eye on the bar and if if you notice a steady decrease then add some more mana banks and siphons. They're cheap and there's usually enough free space on the map for them. Frost towers are your best friend in the endgame. Use them wide and use them often, same with Lookouts. They will save your life when the flayers and beholders start showing up. Those guys are fast, tanky and spawn the most bullshit enemies on death. You want to stop them in their tracks whenever possible just to give yourself more time to deal with them. Have a panic killbox for that reason. Seriously. Like 5+ Obelisks guarding the front entrance if you have the resources for it. Elevation isn't a major factor here. Those lightning fast enemies that spawn on death are going to be the death of you more than any other enemy in the game. Have a panic killbox. You'll thank me later. Lastly, you need to think about how you expand your map. In general, when towers get more coverage its better, but that isn't always the case. Sometimes delaying a group of enemies by a tile or two can prevent high traffic in the killbox. This could mean the difference in losing the game if a large group of tanky units get clumped up and your radars, particle cannons and obelisks can't keep up. Encampments are good in the early-mid game as a panic killbox but they fall off really fast in my opinion. Its best to use them early and change them later. Just started my 2 path runs and I'm already seeing that my methods for success in 1 path may not hold up, but I shall see.

The key to late game mana management is sorcery (regain % of total mana) and mana banks. That makes mana banks scale the more you put down. Also life steal is epic early game(regain % of mana for every enemy killed). Mana syphons are only good mid game to fill in the gaps in your mana production. Usually, I find it’s a lack of mana production around the 30 levels that can get me. Run out of mana mid game and you’re gone in no time flat.

That tesla at 1:00:00 .... placed only a couple squares away from a 10/10 spot.

Things NL (probably) needs to pay attention too if he wants to win: Every tower in the game is more efficent to upgrade the to buy a new one of, in terms of raw dps. Mana consuming towers especially. buy additional towers to have better map coverage, and damage spread. But not for extra damage. Tower Prefernce order doesn't matter, the important thing is to make sure your towers are shooting the right type of enemies AND that they aren't shooting the same enemy as theyll overkill. This means that towers next to eachother should be given slighitly different priorities. SLOWS are pretty close to non-optional, poison tower, ballista or slow tower. Only take upgrades because they remove cards from the pool or give access to lategame cards. Finally because towers sell for free, if you think your going to lose with huge bank, just place like 20 ballistas or shreders or whatever really quickly and delete them after. Personally I keep about 2k, free cash for each early boss level, just to shimmy towers along the track next to the boss.

I come again from the Church Of Tesla to note that they are far more effective than given credit for. Truly the single easiest solo-tower type. Almost halfway into this run you've only made two. Have a little faith, just try more. The damage they do to shields is then done to armor/health once it's gone, and they hit everything at once. Upgrades give every single DOT, and every damage type bonus, but I know that's less interesting - they just become OP very quickly. Just saying, we think you'll be surprised if shown a smidge more love. Now then, our well-known doctrine traditions - good tidings on the yester eve and the day's morrow. Omen Bemen Whatmen Thosemen, Amen. It's the C.O.T., yeah you know we. We're the C.O.T. and we're outie 9000~. Word.

"I think we're about to lose right here" has a pause button and 11k in the bank like those aren't part of the game egg is throwing cause he's not ready to give up on Rogue Tower

If you want to win: Limit your tower selection and focus your upgrades on the thing the tower is good at. Jack of all trades does not work.

Would recommend putting teslas on those +3 corner spots to get the most out of them and also would recommend getting the poison sprayer slow upgrade.

I feel that your strategy of using only a few towers is actually good, it's just that you've had a mixture of bad luck, and not having had enough confidence to go for it.

I think the holding onto money isn't always a smart thing. If you wait until you need the money to be spent on a panic you'll be dropping weak towers. Dropping the towers early and predicting problem areas will give the towers time to level up before it becomes an issue.

I almost NEVER take the elemental towers, and get all of my DOTs from ballistas instead. Works wonders for me.

Honestly I think if you'd built two poison sprayers on the empty +3/+2 corner closer to the Tower than your second obelisk you could have won that round

The bad plays woke me up. Thank you NL

I suck at Tower Defense but as I understand it there are 3 really big points to consider: slowing enemies, keeping them at a distance, and having something in reserve at the end (NL really really suffers at this point).

has 11k in bank, knows they are going to get through, doesn't upgrade...

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Liking and commenting to support made-for-KZfaq content. it just hits different. Edit: geez also hope this comment section doesn't turn him off the game entirely .This reminds me of Slay the Spire.

Im so glad i grabbed so many poison sprayer upgrades now i can place particle cannons and every other tower-NL

Having beat the game, DOTs is where it’s at. Poison and fire.

That +3 t at the bottom was just begging for a tesla all game

Also 4 or 5 radars targeted to highest health highest shield highest armour means bosses get melted. Anything high gets melted. Then your flame, poison and shred towers clean up the plebs

Building too many towers in the late game is a direct correlation to me losing in this game lmao

I am begging you egglord, try 1 run where you just take lookouts and focus on taking cards that help ballistas. Then you just place 1 lookout at each chokepoint and spam ballistas around it. It is the easiest win in the world.

You had an entire stretch of land that was nearly empty of offense except for one buzzsaw and 5 partical cannons. I'm not surprised you lost.

A single shredder won't hold when everything else fails.

So NL is saying he will never stop doing this series poggers

I'm honestly so here for youtube rogue tower

Really neat to get some original content. YT needs more love.

Putting a shredder so it can hit multiple lanes helps a LOT

51:20 NL if you're reading this good job this is a good play you love to see it

I wonder if preset tower targets is in the works and part of a future update. It is somewhat a hassle having to set each tower individually every single time you place one. Even if they didnt decide to add presets they could at least make target changes done to one tower to also change the targeting for the other towers of similar type that are already placed.

I´ve never seen NL putting a Tesla coil on a +3 (in a good corner). Instead he´s putting it on 0 or +1 where it is completely useless.

I found out about this game trough NL, I fell in love with it trough NL, I purchased and started playing it BECAUSE of NL Right now, after my first win, NL, I would just like to say, from the bottom of my heart... GIT GUD SKRUB! lolololol.

At least he saved that 12k for the next game!

11K gold, no last line of defense. Final 'S' curve, poison sprayer, tesla and obelisk. Should have been in place mid game.

Upgrades should be limited to what is useful for each tower. For example: Why have EMP for mortars when they do not do great damage to shields in the first place? That takes up a card slot and reduces the chance of good cards that you want. On my winning runs, I made small upgrades to many towers (also luck on map). This is due to base damage increases with more shots/sec. If you upgrade 1 mortar to level 20 all armor upgrades (for example) cost would be 1900 in upgrades, base damage is 1406 on armor (depending on cards, etc). Cost for 4 mortars at level 5 all armor upgrades (for example) is 220 and base damage is 506/tower for armor, so 2024 in total. This does not even include the other damages/shot. Tested on same run, so cards were not different for testing purposes. I would recommend more towers (especially for low cost/mana towers from upgrade standpoint) and then upgrading each to level 5 instead of pouring lots of levels into a few towers. That should make clearing higher levels much easier since there are a large number of units and they need to be hit multiple times to get to kill. I start every mortar I place with 3 upgrades to armor and 1 to health, for example. Poison towers 3 shield and 1 health, shredder 4 health upgrade, etc.. Early on, you can also take advantage of more coins per tower type hit. Placing a low level ballista prior to higher damage towers that kill the units mean an extra 1 gold per unit the ballista hits. Could throw it on a junk location, but still get the extra gold generation/unit it hits. Also, lookouts are pretty good. May want to try them out surrounded by flame and poison towers, then upgrade lookout 3 shield, 1 for armor, and 1 for health. It multiplies damage output for the targeted units, so I set focus on highest shield, highest health, and lowest armor for late game shield shred. Could be adjusted for what level you are on and what enemies are coming out. Love your content by the way, I would be super happy for you to beat this on single lane.

At this point I hope you never win. Love the series👽

I think building vertically with upgrades and targetting is the way to go but not an expert and love the RT content :)

"I'm going to lose here" Well, then how about building something to prevent that?

Poison and flame towers go down on straight aways...not at awkward angles.

Over 10k spent to make sure 1 obelisk can continually fire. Man's a financial genius.

I would love watching more Rogue Tower.

And just when I thought he was done, He came back with more RT!!!!

Man i love the rogue tower vids

Just do the Oops, All Ballistas "challenge." The game plays itself.

Lmao you saw you were gonna die but just stared at it happening. I would've panic bought some teslas at the end and pumped as shield and health dmg

Good stuff, nice take. FTL all over again.

I've never seen NL use haunted houses. I've also never seen him win. After this many gameplays, there's no way it's coincidence.

+3 teslas are good. No elevation towers are bad

250 empty +0 spaces blocks 5 mana siphons

Watching him not upgrade his last line of defense with almost 12k

NL saving gold for the next round

MORE ROUGE TOWER! LETS GOOOOOOOOO

My 4th Eve run was my Victory,i just got all mortar cards unlocked and that's how i went just all in on mortars (that range is ridiculous)

Funnily enough, the easiest run I had so far was ballista only, it was also my first win. And I had an amazing ballista and particle cannon only run where the path didn't split at all.

Yeah so the way portals seem to work is they only appear if: 1. The path can't be expanded anymore because of other paths obstructing it. 2. You are on round 45-x where x is the number of paths you still have open. Also I think you severely overrate mana banks. Unless I'm missing some hidden mechanic they only generate 1 mana per sec. They do make Sorcery a bit better because they give you more max mana but they're not good at all for mana/sec - you can get the same with just one Siphon and it's a fifth of the cost. Okay - I'm editing this comment and backseating way too much but you gotta think about when do you need which types of damage and what is worth upgrading. You need to make sure your towers are dealing damage to the health type they're good against and upgrade that damage type. If your Particle Cannons are great at dealing damage to shields and might hit health as well if all shields are down - upgrade their shield damage and maybe a tiny bit of health damage but not armor. If enemies are making it through your killbox with their shields/armor down - even if these monsters started with shields or armor they only have health left there so you need health damage further downstream and shield/armor damage further upstream.

If I could put this video in a juicer, id get a full youtube jug of it im sure, not a stinky twitch vod half glass.

So ive realized in my own play that upgrading the tick of poison isnt super usefil without your appliers of poison applying more of it per second. Because if the tick is upgraded it will eat the dot beforei t has a chance to do its thing. (Same aplies to fire and bleed). Had a run once where i never got the +50% applied buffs but was up to 80 dps per second and the debuffs never lingers so the additional effects never actually helped