Hero

Thank you, so annoying they buried it

Thank you sir.

Lol, the video is time stamped with a clear "The crash footage" tag...

I spent quite some time timestamping the video so the people who don't want any context can skip right to it.

no. he should have tharged the guy for wrecking his car. just because its the track doesn't mean everyone can drive like a newby or moron

@@EternalResonance the other guys car is totaled too. Either way there both at a loss. Most of the time when you go to a track you know that can be a factor. Insurance doesn't carry over to the track bud

RIP STEEZ #47shit

Life happens, c'est la vie. A vacuum table can be used to make composite panels on 3DP frames, so maybe the car will return 100kg lighter. 😇 Never waste a good catastrophe, as it's said.

RIP King Steelo 47shit

Yeah but if the guy infront slows down enough, makes space on the outside/racing line by moving to the inside where he basically tells them to come on over...who has there to learn something then?! I agree with the respect the footage stuff, its never fun getting reminded of crash. But just man up about it, dont look for excuses and tell the thruth that everyone can see, he was simply to late with reacting on someone else his mistake. Just like with any other job someone is working at, mistakes will happen 100%! nothing to be ashamed about but definitely not a reason to look for excuses.

@@TheBazzterd well i think he expected it to go onto the grass and he would be able to get around, but the porche flipped around so hard it started to roll backwards and thats where the miscalculations come from.. i think ? looks like

@@TheBazzterd It’s easy to say what you’d do retrospectively when you’ve watched the clip 5 times and thought about the best approach. As he said, he wrongly assumed the driver had it under control. But still, lesson learnt.

Note the other car close behind the 911 in his mirror, so unclear where that was during all this and if he even there was space to move left to avoid the incident. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

@@mattcory619 yeah but at the same time he could easily avoid this. Obviously in retrospect everything's avoidable and all but shit happens. With time you learn how to avoid wrecks as it's a skill itself

spot on

It's easy to forget that we're living in the future.

@@daveowen378 Haha

@@daveowen378 thats brilliant

Thats how I saw the video too, had he slowed down give you guys room wouldn't of happened. However, you came in way too hot on the outside in the first place. I did the same mistake, on project cars on ps4 😂

Dont really agree with your comment here and feel its a little out of place. You came in too hot to a corner, trying to overtake when you shouldn't have; and then making out if you were given a bit more room, you might not have caused a crash. In honesty there's quite a few things you could (and should) have done before that, in order not to have caused the crash. It shouldn't have been you needed more room. You shouldn't have been there in the first place! Even then, you managed to spin back rather than go with the spin to take you out of the way!

Hi James, as I said to Matt, it's best not to read the comments on any YT video 😂. I'm not sure if you watched the video, but in it I acknowledge exactly what you are saying.

@@driftworksHi, yeah, Matt did. It’s hard not to get drawn in with so many negative comments though.

There's huge appeal for viewers to boil down a complicated situation and make it into the story they want... A simple one-sided story where there is a single party to lay the full blame. It's easy to get drawn into that thinking. Massive respect for everyone involved being level headed and not trying to blame and finger-point. :)

Holy shit. Clash of the titans.

@@Levent_Ergun ... old CPU1 ?!!

@@matteightytwo yeah that's the one

He could even 3D print a mold in multiple pieces, glue em together, sand, bondo and then epoxy the whole thing to make a pretty nice piece! Seen some very nice carbon parts come out of 3D printed molds on KZfaq!

Everyone in the com.ent section is an expert and would never have done that......yet they will never own a e30 m3 bmw, do track driving and they will never make mistakes as they seem to think they are perfect 🙄🤷‍♂️

dude this is the internet. for reals peeps that know dont usually feel obliged to comment

If the Porsche had just hit the brakes after he started to spin, he would have spun off to the right in a very predictable way.

It will be rebuilt soon ehhehe

But how bad are the damages on the GT2 ? It looks like it’s a very soft crash

Good to see it still being properly used. Wonder what the mileage is on it now, i recon 100k+ easy. Lonman could drive for sure, not sure about the geeza who's got it now...

100% right. Stupid driving from BMW guy. More money than sense 😉

Oh come on. The Porsche was trying to drift the corner and didn't have the talent; and then when they lost control, they didn't boot the throttle but instead let the car go across the track backwards out of control. Maybe the corner could have been handed over earlier, but it's a track day, drive within limits.

Well when you own drifts works and net worth is over 10 million. they don’t look at cars the same we do

@@mroshfosh 10 million?

Aslong as your not part of it 🤔

His e46 m3 with the m5 v10 is a weapon and his e46 csl is beautiful. He's got some nice toys and he's worked hard for them 👍

E46 V10 is fucking awesome yes

Here in the US they're insanely strict about that. Which I'm perfectly fine with them being strict. Don't need things like this happening.

@@FULLTHROTTLEAUTO Yep, 100%. No need for it. It's 'only' a track day. 😎

Said the same to a mate just now. As a non-drifter I'd have backed away from that situation and allowed more room, but I can see why someone used to drifting and twinning etc wouldn't bat an eyelid at a car out of shape and stay a lot closer. Gutted for both drivers tho. Two very awesome cars out of action 😔

Sorry, he may have made a mistake but he’s certainly very very very experienced.

You make some interesting and valid points

Why don’t you retune the cars for him? That would make a a good video. Absolute idiot tunes my cars and blows up lambo.

I know. I said it in the video.

You could have avoided that comment

@@bernhardscharnowsky1990 hahaha, yep he could've by actually watching the video

Haha yeah I mean, we don't know what it was like being there... and it's easy to judge from the comfort of my couch.. but coming from very serious sim racing, looks like he had ages to do something and avoid the crash, like... freaking porsche going sideways for a solid two seconds or so and he had time to lift a little, and go back to the gas, he should have slow down and maneuver right there, and then last chance was to do a very aggressive maneuver to the left, doesn't seem like he reacted, anyway... just watched the crash footage I'm unaware of whatever explanation he might have

He's definitely horrible driver ur right my grandmother with no hands could of handle that better.

You can hear him laughing so I assume he thought cool. This guy is pulling a drift around the corner. Not realising he was out of control and not experienced in keeping it going in the right direction. I.e. continuing in a drift.

if you just watched the video u all would know why he reacted that way

I had something similar at Combe a couple months ago on the final right hander at the start finish. There is next to no run off on the left and I ended up with a ton of oversteer when I turned right.. I absolutely knew I really didnt want to be crossing the track backwards going off to the left I knew there were at least three cars going fast behind me, I absolurely knew crossing the track would be a real pain, so I kept my foot in, pinned, and I oversteered nicely to the right, didnt actually spin, sort of gathered it up on the grass. In short, when stuff goes wrong like that, you still need to be making decisions

Nope it was brakes that got him into that mess.

@@dannyDC2 just had a peek at your channel, my little incident was also in a red MR2.. sorry to hear about yours

@@matteightytwo shit, I’m at Combe next too 🤣

@@dannyDC2 Dude said after the spin!! It was a lack of skill that got him into that mess!!

True with the couch bit but I also thought lol that was not super sudden or anything

lol, afterwards you always know better. If the gt2 guy would have stayed on the throttle he would have hit him waaay worse.

@@MrVIDEOACE how? He started to come backwards, him accelerating would've slowed his reverse and pulled him forward, the Porsche guy I can't blame, once you lose it it's hard to regain control, bimmer guy shouldve swung out instead of being more worried about his racing line lol

If he had gone left he would have probably hit that yellow Ferrari which could have been even worse

@@sayhimali6384 afterwards you always know better. if the porsche stayed on the gas ( and tried to drift), he would have spun more forward or to the inside. there was no way to predict where the porsche was going to end up since he can't read this guys mind. i am sure you could have read his mind in this situation ;) in this situation you can't think about every little detail, you just react. it's funny how all those keyboardwarriors always know better. idk how much you know about racing cars, but talking like that and to say " you should have done this and that and you were 100% safe" indicates knowledge from seeing and not real track experience.

@@Nate0493 there's nothing in the side mirror plus no car passes right after the incident

Cheers 👍

Lmao its literally the porsches fault

100% could have been, had I been able to see the future yep.

@@driftworks ah driftworks dont let them push the responsibility onto you, the porsche driver did dumb stuff that caused both of you to end up with undriveable cars

Honestly I would have done the same manoeuvre, I wouldn’t have expected him to slide backwards after he went sideways.

@@driftworks you are so bad driver man, go buy vw polo 1.2

As Jeremy Clarkson once said "ambitious but rubbish" 😂

First he ran out of talent, then out of road.

@@axelhorneff5077 Then out of luck

Thanks for the advice. It's useful as I have 0 experience with cars going sideways 👍

@@driftworks 🤣 I think a comments review video is well in order for this video. I'm more into bikes these days but your cars and way you mod them are proper cool 😎

@@driftworks to be fair mate that was entirely your fault 🤷 lucky you've got the money to fix it

Thanks 👍

I really doubt that, looked like he was fully expecting to be driving the GT2 home again.

Cyclist was at fault

@@dannyDC2 Cyclist at fault by default

This isn’t racing…

@@jakemico they’re on a track, so technically it is.

@@alexh1218 If you’ve ever been to a circuit for a track day you will very quickly learn that ‘racing’ is the number one thing not allowed. It’s a track day so technically it is not racing… 🤦🏻‍♂️ Overtaking is only allowed under certain conditions, usually along straights and on the outside of the circuit. If you are the slower vehicle you are asked to slow down and pull over to allow the faster car to pass. Most circuits don’t even allow lap timing to prevent people pushing too hard. These are track days, not race days. They have far fewer Marshalls and the drivers have far less talent than professionals. Plus the cars are, in most instances less suited for track conditions compared to a race prepared vehicle.

@@jakemico I mean I have a time attack / production car and go to multiple open test days and there’s basically no rules surrounding overtaking or hard racing and a lot of the times are present, sounds like you go to happy laps or coffee laps which is a waste of time.

@@alexh1218 Sure you do... As you clearly are an expert you should know a track day and a test day are two very different things. Timing is allowed at test days and I believe you may even need an ARDS license to take part. Out of curiosity, which imaginary vehicle do you drive? and which class and series do you compete in?

😂

Sad site though. But lovely RS6

You mean braking when clearly the other car was sliding into his path? or maybe you meant he could've made a sharp turn to either side to avoid colliding with the porsche? Totally avoidable just by having the minimum reflexes you should have if you are on the track

@@esdar66g95 yes only he knows how it felt but the footage seemed so slow that you could easily brake and turn to the left to avoid the Porsche...only if his left was blocked but I don't think so...either way I sure he did his best to avoid it!

He’d probably just drive one of his other BMWs or Porsche

Cheers 👍

Thank you sir 👍

@@driftworks no thank you for the material 👌

Of course it is in hindsight.

@@driftworks I mean, yeah... but you were in the throttle when the first car was in a major oversteer, and the second car hadn't even come close to passing you. I'm not saying you're entirely at fault for the collision because it obviously wouldn't have happened if the Porsche drove within their and the car's limits and picked a better spot to pass, but there's a good lesson to be learned about track days and hot shot drivers. For amateur drivers to pass on the outside in a high speed corner like this presents many opportunities to make errors, which would have undoubtedly been at the forefront of my mind when these cars tried to make the pass here. Just think about GPs held at this track and how infrequent and high intensity the passes are in this corner. There's a reason for that, because the risk usually isn't worth the reward.

The Ferrari was to my left & out of sight of my mirrors.

I was letting a faster car overtake on the straight, then couldn't see him so stayed right just incase.

It was the Porsches choice to try to pass on the outside, it was his mistake to try to corner faster than his skills allowed, or was trying to drift (needed much more throttle). The BMW should have braked hard the moment the Porsche started to drift, possibly he thought the Porsche would just continue off the track.