Can’t wait to see you on @MidLifeRunner podcast. Two of my favorites. Yowana, thanks for the review and your additional replies on this vs. the NB SC Trainer v2.

I have the Boston 12 and Pro 3 perfect shoes. LIGHTSTRIKE PRO needs about 30 miles to open up and then it's amazing for the next 400 years.. Zoom X is amazing out the box but dead after 150 miles 😢.

Looking forward to your EP4 review. Strongly contemplating buying it as my 1st race shoe. Metaspeed looks interesting too. EP4 felt unbeliavable during my short store testing.

I thought for sure this would be your favorite racing shoe. Prob needs some break in. I enjoy the channel. You are a natural. Prob should be in sales for sure.

Thanks for testing AAP 3! I just dusted off my AAP 3 from 2022 a couple weeks ago. I had the neon green/black color which is still my favorite. I had to replace the insole, but I can still feel the snappy ride. I'm a 5'9", 160 lbs midfoot striker with wide feet which may explain why this shoe works so well for me, especially at faster paces. I look forward to your follow up analysis... yes, it may take a few good runs before the foam softens up and gets you bouncing along at that marathon pace or faster. Since I don't have any other green colored shoes, I'll use this for the upcoming St Patty's day 10k again!

IT'S ABOUT TIME! ;) I love my AP3s.

Patience dude! Just like the Boston 12, it needs to be broken in. Such a phenomenal shoe.

I almost returned my first pair of AP3s after the first couple of runs, but then figured out the lacing and got about 350 miles on them. I have about 175 miles on my second pair and bought a third pair. Once they break in they are fantastic!

On your video from yesterday in the first seconds I thought another person were speaking for you but than I realized that your voice just sounds to me like years of smoking and drinking alcohol regularly 😁 I hope you‘re feeling better now Bro 😍 Obviously your body has picked up a little cold right? Good bless you man 🙌 I wish you all the best 👌

This is a shoe that the more you use the better it becomes! I have both shoes and I even bought 2 extra Pros cos I am in love with them! I still wear my first pair a year now and I did around 600km on them, and I can still wear them no problem!

Mine did take some time to break in- also- the sweet spot is in the forefoot. I like the platform barreling down hills too for a racer (wider than others, or at least number 2)

I had wondered why you hadn't tried the Adios Pro 3, given your enthusiasm for the Boston 12 and SL. It seems like a great shoe. For a long race, I don't think I would want something overly soft or unstable.

I have dedicated my teen years to running😂so i have gotten around 32ish shoes now...i have all of the top teir supershoes that are out now. I am more of a mid distance runner and my threshold is about 5:30. I have found personally that the Takumis are straight up my favorite shoes! The Vaporlfly 3s are constantly getting better the more i run in them, however the Takumis and the Adios Pro 3s are my 2 favorites!!!

The AP3 absolutely requires more break in than many super shoes. Great to hear your first impressions, for sure, but I don’t think 10 miles is a good representation of the shoe. Much like your recent early impression of the Rebel V4 changed dramatically once you’d worn in the foam.

Own two pairs of these a release day one and one bought last week. The foam is identical. Love this shoe and it Definately softens up / benefits from break in. I found they really start to come alive once you’ve got 50. Plus miles logged in them. I found the same with the adios pro 2 as well.

You have to dial in the lacing and break the foam in! It took me 40+ miles to break it in!

Also this colorway is absolute FIRE

I really loved Takumi Sen 8 and Prime X Strung OG. The foam is energetic in these two. Especially PXS gives my significant bounce and 10-15s advantage per mile. I do have Adios Pro 2 and 3 as well. They are decent shoes which I use for easier long runs but I don't get the same energy return as PXS or high turnover of TS8. I am going to run The Woodlands Marathon in PXS. The Lightstrike PRO foam gets better over time. So give them some time for fully formed opinion. As for foam color, I have to check when I get home but I think my pairs of shoes above have the same color for Light Strike Pro more or less. My Pro 3 is from 2022 (The Black/Green colorway). It is also possibly due to a different site/country of production or maybe you uncovered a slight variation in the formulation over different year production lots. Maybe exposure to elements (water, heat, air) is changing the color as well.

Foot Doctor Zach mentioned this was not going to benefit heel strikers because of the rod placement despite it having such a wide heel. Mid foot and forefoot is where you get that pop. I’d say maybe try it at easier paces to see if that helps. That might be why the heavier runners prefer it. Thanks for the review!

i got mine on sale a while back, but not a huge fan of the lacing. Going to try to keep troubleshooting the lacing system and/or get new laces. But everything else feels great. Last half-marathon i ran was in Endorphin Pro 3 which felt great, but really want to try to race in these things eventually.

Yes I will agree with others, the Pro 3's need a little break in period to soften the midsole a little. Looking forward to the Gara head to head :)

Would love to hear a comparison to the new Tyr valkyrie. The 6mm drop littler firmer than vaporfly has made the ap3 my favorite and wonder how the 6mm tyr stacks up with the saucony like firmer peba.

I think the adios pro 3 is prob one of the best out there.

You have to give some time to the midsole. At first I hated mi AAP 3, but after 50km for me, they became a beauty. I have 250 miles and they are still good.

With that sole cutout lool like the Hoka Cielo as well somewhat similar in that sense. Would like to see a comparison between this and the Hoka

The Adios Pro 3 takes a few runs to open up IMHO. I took my pair for its inaugural race at Craft Beer Half last year (I think I saw you on the course) and did pretty well considering it was a B race, but I had already put 40-50 miles on the shoe at that point. And they last forever. I used that same pair for a 50k a few weeks ago in terrible weather. After I wiped the mud off and shook out the silt, they didn’t look any worse for wear. As far as racing shoes, they may not be the most energetic, but they’re tanks. For me, they work best at MP or HMP, but not as much the shorter, faster stuff. But since they are so durable, I can do a lot of training in them, like long runs with pace or long workouts.

Just ran in mine and reminded me just how fun it is to run in and also how horrendous the upper feels on foot . Rhe geometry is also a weird one , like it forces you to run a certain way.

Not too long ago, I ran with a team that was Adidas sponsored. So the Pro 3 was my predetermined marathon shoe. Like you, I have loved the Boston, SL and Takumi. The Solarboost series ain’t bad, either. However, it took me 100 miles to get comfortable in the adios pro 3. I would have stopped running in it after one marathon if I didn’t have to wear it. My first pair just felt “off” so I half sized up next round. Second pair… one of the first eyelet strings down near the toe box just gave out a week before a race. Third pair just lives in my closet now.

Change the insoles and the laces! Once the shoe molds to the bottom of your foot it’s absolute magic. This shoe is the reason I didn’t enjoy the Boston 12, which was a brick.

I was unsure at first, but a different shoe after 40k for me. Love it now 👍

so should i go for the boston 12 or pro 3? mainly want to use it for easy 5ks and ocassionly do some hill sprints

Not surprised you didn’t overly like it after just 10 miles. Adidas Pro 3 needs at least 20-30 miles break in in my experience so you need to give it a good couple of long tempo’s / long runs first then come back and tell us you love it now :-)

It takes a while for the break-in period. I have the Prime X Strung 2, Boston 12, and AAP3. AAP3 took the longest to get use to.

The heel looks promising. The inner heel collar padding seems to extend around the back a bit more than the Boston 12 (would be better if it connected) and the heel cup looks flexible? Similar to the Takumi Sen8 heel cup? I took the Takumi Sen8 out again yesterday for an all out 3min test and various pickups for a total of about 12km and while not comfortable, it did the job. After lace locking the hell out of it...I didn't experience any heel lift....but did I ever get lace bite on the top of my foot/ankle. I just think that Adidas heels aren't for me, which is ok. Doesn't matter how good the tech and midsole of a shoe is, if the upper doesn't work for you.

The adios pro 3 is my race day shoe. I hit my mile, 5k, 10k, half and marathon PRs in them. The springy-ness propels me forward like no other super shoe. The only downside is that I had a ton of trouble hugging sharp turns in them. Other than that they are the near perfect super shoe.

Just PR’d a half marathon in the Pro 3. Rainy day and the grip was tremendous. Have you done any more runs in this?

They take a few to break in. Once they do they feel like a blend between vaporfly and alphafly in the sense that they feel best when you land on that “fat pad” sweet spot. They also standout in terms of durability. I’ve had multiple pairs that last over 400 miles and midsole still feel good, limiting factor being the outsole wore thru and the upper ripped apart from the midsole after extended wear.

Pure Lightstrike Pro midsoles need some breaking in, i noticed with the prime X and adios pro 2. I did not notice that with Takumi 8/9 though.

Got the first "like" on this video. WooHoo! Maybe a few miles of break-in for that big slab of Lightstrike Pro? Didn't the Boston benefit from that?

i felt this after my first run.. the upper gave me a blister and the midsole felt flat.. but after that oh my.. it got better after my 2nd and 3rd runs and i chose it for Chicago last year over the Vaporfly 3.. i somehow got the lacing better to make the upper workable and the midsole just gets better.. just my experience but yeah i love the AAP3!

I was eager on buying the pro 3’s, ‘cause they looked like takumi sense’s big brother. And I love my takumi sen 8’s. Maybe they just need some breaking in?

I today tried these for first time. Super comfortable at easy paces 4-4.20 per km and super bouncy at very fast speeds - 2.30-2.50 per km

I love my pair , I have a new pair in the wardrobe ready for when they're worn out , which sadly won't be long as they wear out fast 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

Hello Why not make video about Asics superblast or Sky metspeed ???

More miles onto lightstrike pro the better it gets. Happened with the pro 2 and pro 3s. I do love the pros except the rod concept cuz they do break

Not sure about you but the Pro 3 is an awesome pair for me. I have 2 pairs and no difference. First pair at 600km and still rocking smooth. And I'm 61kg

I got 7 pairs of Adios Pro 3. you'll eventually love them

Being a Boston fan as well I was hoping for a different outcome, but only time will tell. What shoe gives you the most Boston feel for marathon distance so far? Thanks for the mind reader-like content!

My second pair of Adios pro 3 has just gone back faulty. The first pair last year cream/green lasted 400 miles, blistered the ball of my foot during a marathon last year so relegated it to training...no problems during training just at marathon pace. Loved it tho so gambled ordered another pair...green/pink. The heel on this one rubbed both my Achilles badly and also had rough pieces inside the front toe box. Again this year blistered the ball of my foot but only at marathon pace. The lower lace loops pulled out this week so it had to return it and received a credit note. I did like this shoe but it didnt like me, i enjoy your posts and agree with your weight and build comment on which shoe fits who better. Iam 155 lbs nearly 57 years old and going for a sub 3.10-3.15 marathon in the Autumn. Would appreciate any advice, i might not be quick enough for the saucony elite after viewing your post on them. Many thanks

Whats Pickleball.? Love the Adios Pro 3 btw.

I completely agree with everything you said about adidas pro 3 I think it’s a solid shoe but that’s about it , it doesn’t wow or feel exciting or fast like other brands super shoes It actually put me off trying the Boston so it’s interesting you say you like that one better People say light strike pro gets better with brake in but it didn’t feel much better for me I think the sen 8 broke in tho And was good I feel like the prime x strung 1 was the shoe the pro 2 and pro 3 was supposed to be but i think the rules around 40 mm stack hight where written while the original pime x was been developed If you haven’t tried the prime x strung 1 I would recommend not the strung 2 tho

Feel the same, love the Boston 12, but just can't get into the pro 3 after multiple runs, always feels like a struggle

How does one interpret the reviews of a heel striker if they are themselves a midfoot/forefoot striker? Serious question.

I hate the cut-out of foam underneath the pinkie toe. Its super annoying because thats where my foot lands

Is it just me but the midfoot portion of the AP3 is extremely narrow? I tried the Boston 12 which didnt have the issue so I got that. With the AP3 i felt 1/4 of my midfoot(inner side) was just spilling out of the shoe and was afraid that running in this manner would cause me pain. The forefoot was fine especially for me with a wide feet.

More runs in and a new review :)

You bought the last pair of 10-1/2 in that colorway. I tried to order it a couple of weeks ago but it was sold out. 😢

its the best marathon shoe period

for a easy half marathon without metatarsal problems, is adios pro 3 or new balance sc trainer v2 better? I'm looking for something stable and comfy.

I remember that in 2022 when I bought the Boston 11 , I could have payed a tinny more and could have bought the Adios Pro 3 instead ( or was it the Pro 2, can't remember ). Anyways, I ended loving my Boston 11, used it for one year/ 650km and still donated it for a friend that still have the shoes today. My question for you would be : By the Boston 12 or pay a bit more and go directly to the Pro 3, for fun and training, but not competition yet for me ?! I wonder if it will be as stable and durable as the Boston... Thanks .

Love the pro 3ms for stability and theway they save my legs/feet after the 16mile mark. It is mot the fastest shoe, but when you set a pace those shoes LOCK IN

Did you experience blister at the big toe joint due to harsh inside part of the upper? I tried AAP3 last week and started to feel the blister after 8 km.

I think you need the size right. I have half size up on adios pro 3 and they feel like a better alphafly 2

Did you get this the same size as Boston 12 or half a size bigger like in the Takumi Sen?

Man one thing the adios pro 3 are is fun..if someone stole my AF1, the pro 3 will have my back

Check back in with us once you have 30+ miles in. I like the Adidas Pro 3 much more after about 25 miles.

Shape of the outsole is completely different, in Pro3 is very short and agresive. In Boston and Diadora rocker is very smooth and longer....maybe because of that Pro3 is not the best choice for you?

I didn't love the Boston 12 at first. Felt really stiff, brick like. In combination with stiff upper there was not much to like about the shoe. After 100km it grew on me, feels a bit softer now but still can't say i love them, like is a better word.

Boston 12 is a good shoe, except that the Pro 3 exists!

@yowana Will you do a 100 or 200 mile review on them, or did you ditch them completely?

Give these a few more miles to break in the foam n shoe and you’ll be amazed.

The foam likes being squished to release the flavour, like a piece of hard chewing gum needs to be chewed up, lighter runners take a few runs to squish it in, make it bouncy, after that, mad energy return for hundreds of miles it just gets better and better.

My pro 3s have off white color on the foam.

AP3 is a goat 🐐 race shoe. It gets better the more you run in it .

You may have nailed it on height, weight etc being a factor in adios pro 3. Works only cerain runners. Same for me. Seems the Adios Pro 3 demands a certain foot strike midfoot. I am still trying to make Adiks Pro3 work. At 20 miles, my shoe ahould be breaking in. We will see

Completely unrelated to the shoes but I have been racking my brain about my foot strike (heel) and based on this video looks like you do the same. Is it bad/inefficient to do so?

Idk I AP3 is my 2nd favorite shoe… behind Sen 9

I actually didn't really like the pro 3 until it broke in a bit at about 30 miles.

lacing is shit😢always churning my left foot 😥last weekend I even asked myself why I'm wearing it at 36km , had to stop n loosen it a bit n go some holes down on the laces 😥

I love the Adios Pro 3. However, unlike most other super shoes you need to break it in.

AP3 absolutely required at least 50 miles to break in for me.

I don’t love the shoe but you do need to break it in, similar to B12

Adios pro 3 definitely needs a break in period. I am confident you'll love it after 30ish miles.

Takes 2-3 runs to break in for me. In the UK they can be sourced for around £130 in the past 12 months which makes a sound option.

You need a good 20 mile long run in it to truly enjoy it afterwards

The AP3 has been my least favorite super shoe I have tried. Which included the Vaporfly 2, Alphafly 1, metaspeed edge, puma deviate nitro elite and Cielo X1. Also, for all the criticism the Cielo gets about its weight, my AP3 weigh 5 grams heavier.

Is this better than the Sc Elite V4 for slow pace 3/4 hour marathoners?

“Very Scientifically by the way” 😂😂😂

AP3 is very good, better than the AF2.

It took mine (2 pairs) at least 25 minutes to start coming alive.

AP3 is the 🐐!

Give the Pro 3 80 to 100 miles of break in and they will come alive.

I absolutely hate my Bostons. Lol I think I'll like my AP3, but I've only had one run in them.

The pro 3 is just a boston 12 on steroids. I run pro 3, boston and the prime x strung. My pro 3 are on 85 miles so nice and run in but I can't remember them feeling any different when new. The upper does break in though so first couple of runs might get some rubbing off lace eyelets but that disappears. I'd choose pro 3 over boston 12 everyday of the week it's night and day for me. You sure you're running in them right? 😂

The worst 1/2 I ever ran was a product of that shoe..the upper is horrible, the heel lift is bad,it feels like you're running up hill cos the roll thru is so bad..at 7mi I met the wife and by then I could hardly run..I swap to a pr of NB 1080v10 and finished the race but by that time it was too late..haven't used a pr of Adidas shoes since..the pro V2 was OK up to 5k and V1 was the best of them..if I need to put more than 5mi in a shoe to break it in its gone..

We found the one person on the interwebs that doesn't like AP3 haha.

Maybe” they’ll grow on you like the Bostons did

Boston 12 has no plate.

I got syphilis from this shoe

AP3s Half Marathon in 2 days