Care to promote your school? Would love to find an eco-centric school near me.

Same bro, 3 months into it!

How do you train brand new students that have absolutely no expedience how to grapple when they don’t know how to hip escape or break fall?

@dmejia719 Haven't taught a breakfall in over a year. Everytime we do stand up and there are newer people in class, I tell them not to try and catch themselves with one arm, explain why, and tell them to land with their whole body, use two arms to catch, tuck their chin, etc. No injuries to date. As for hip escapes, stick them under mount, task focus of keep their hands to their partner hips, and getting their hips as far away from their partners hips as possible, filling the space with their knees. Keep in mind, this is a simplistic quick version of what we would do. There are various task focuses we could give to get various outcomes.

@dmejia719 You've gotta give more people credit. If you do your job well and put a problem infront of someone, give them what they should focus on to resolve the problem, people can and will find solutions. People aren't as helpless as a lot of people seem to think.

ahahah

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks so much!

Glad you enjoyed it! ahaha, glad we kept it rolling :).

drop in bro.

@@user-hu7qw2hz8u you guys are in Maryland?

Yeah in Rockville

Mini games. They've existed forever. This guy is verbose because he wants to be the next Danaher.

He takes twenty minutes to teach you to teach yourself something he could have taught you in two minutes

@@nategalvan3907 I'd say his students progress more in 3 years than most people will in 6-10. Personally, I'm happy to listen to greg talk all day if that means I can understand, learn, and improve faster than any alternative.

Good luck most won’t stuck in their ways, start your own.

@@ryanthompson3446 I don't have the credentials otherwise, I would. but I appreciate the sentiment.

Yeah man shits crazy the old model is like a cult and these dudes look at you like a weirdo for wanting to go this route

I haven’t spoken to Ryan recently

So amazing when we think that we need to teach techniques to learn them, and yet not amazing at all when we operate from an Ecological paradigm! My girlfriend has been doing BJJ here for a week now and just 2 days ago she did a beautiful hip switch over my butterfly hook. Never been shown, never told, never seen it as a possibility, yet when the situation was constrained in such a way that she needed to figure something out, it sure happened quick.

You must have not listened to the interview…

Let me test myself. First you would give him the most basic condition to be met for bjj success. You tell him "In order to win, you must control the movement of your opponent" Then you let him explore a variety of ways of doing this (some will be more successful than others). You identify his biggest missing link and the next condition that must be met for success. You tell him the condition and allow him to explore solutions again. Repeat this cycle to infinity. How did I do guys?

Yes! And it’s also more than that- psychological pressure can’t be measured in pounds per square inch, and I believe that the pressure we refer to in BJJ isn’t entirely accounted for just by force or force per area. Maybe something about how much we restrict our opponents movement, and how uncomfortable we make them

The way I started doing it was just grabbing a like minded homie and start constructing games around what we do. Thinking about what positions we have difficulty with or positions that we end up in a lot when we spar.

@@kaptenmemo Excellent advice... thanks!

See also: “non sequitur” and “begging the question”.

@@gregsouders9648I'm still stumped... my point is Gianni is one record for how much he has drilled. He beat 2 athletes who are now in the same belief as you that drilling is a waste of time. If drilling is a waste of time, then that should not have happened. To say something with so much backing is a waste of time is just interesting to me. Wrestlers drill extensively. World class boxers shadow box, hit mitts etc is that also a waste of time

World class and world champion athletes in every field often succeed despite their training methodologies, rather than because of it. There’s a variety of reasons for that I won’t get into here, but The science here (testing the ecological approach or CLA against traditional methods and measuring the results) has been well established for multiple decades- the results are obvious for the researchers, everyone who reads the research, and everyone who cares to test it. I’m sure most people will wait until Greg’s athletes or others using the eco approach win ADCC to ‘jump on the bandwagon’ at which point the playing field will level out as competitive gyms using a more traditional approach die off. Question is whether or not you want to wait that long ;).

@@ThestudioSFso as I said , many approaches work. Not just one. There's no be all end all to training. This is another form of that. Congratulations that's awesome! However it's not the only one. There's a thousand ways to skin a cat. Let's celebrate them all. This could go on forever though and can say the same thing about Greg's athletes etc..

I don't think it's so much that one way is the be all end all. Combat sports has so many different variables to it, the better fighter doesn't always win. To me it this is about effective and efficient learning that is backed by science.

The science is all there, just need someone to apply it ;).

I believe you, but you could almost say the same about grapplers in every room including greg's facility itself, by sheer nature of how ubiquitous it is. What's your point?

@ThestudioSF my point is this is being pushed as a panacea and really it's a supplement.

Alex Nguyen who I believe has won a few blackbelt female world titles if i'm not mistaken

Each set up isn’t exactly the same. Always something that changes. No movement is exactly the same every time

@@doriangongar1859 if the steps are followed and you are implementing the techniques correctly the movements are varying by mms and require little adjustment, watch people that use The same techniques and setups over and over as evidence, there’s plenty of them.

Do you train?

@@gregsouders9648 occasionally. Do you realise there’s a world outside of your own head?

Something is different every single time, and critically as nickolai Bernstein showed all the way back in 1967, experts create greater precision and accuracy when needed (in his earliest case, in hammer strikes) through greater variability in kinematics when compared to beginners.

Are you making all of these statements about what you think I’m doing from just watching this video? Have you ever trained here? Btw, I just learned who Frans Bosch was a couple weeks ago. He is great.

@@gregsouders9648 watching your vids. I also said "I think" because I never been to one of your classes. Its based on objective analysis. The reason why I said it is not a true ecological approach because when it comes to sports performance most of that comes down to motor control theories like top down control or bottom up control. Bosch who popularized the contraints led approach uses constraints more so to take advantage of motor control principles to refine movment patterns and train so called attractors and basically create self orginization of muscles that could not be done through verbal cuing. I think "from what I have seen of your teaching" seems more so constraining instructions and not so much movements to refine motor patterns. To be honest I think you kinda have an attitude that is overly confrontational but I do respect that you are trying to apply principles of advanced sports training to BJJ. Maybe if i met you in person I would like you more but on vid you seem to be way to mad that people teach BJJ a different way and almost starts to seem arrogant. I do think you are a great teacher but gotta realize there is many ways to achieve a goal.

@@kevinsho2601 basing an opinion on watching videos is not an "objective" opinion, it's highly subjective, based on your perception of the context and content. Bosch may (and i emphasize "may") be responsible for bringing CLA to light in the S&C realm, but he is certainly not responsible for popularizing these modern concepts within the realm of competitive sports. I love Bosch's work, but there are many better resources to learn Eco-D and CLA concepts as applied to interacting with other beings and not just your own body movements. And to say that verbal cueing is not a part of the ecological approach is to vastly misrepresent the research, application, and efficacy of these modern approaches to skill acquisition. And lastly, you are correct that there are many ways to achieve a goal, but coaches like @gregsouders9648 are very clearly exploring what the most efficient ways are for the most amount of people. Outliers, survivors, and genetic freaks should not be our guideposts, methods steeped in scientific rigor should be.

@rev.enant73 I think you are more upset that I don't agree that this is a pure ecological approach, and your opinion of my opinion is more subjective. Also, I didn't even say verbal cuing completely eliminates it from being ecological. If you actually know what the ecological approach is, then you already know Im accounting for the constraints of environmental influence. The ecological approach is literally the mutuality between the animal and environment. It is more so about how motor control works in that relationship. When you are delving deep into the ecological approach popularized by bosch and really made by bernstein its the ecological\dynamical systems approach of movement and has to do with mathematical concepts of non linear dynamics that describe the self emergent properties of movement. It is basically how motor control creates self orginization. Kinda of a super high-level overview. The reason why it differs from Gregs approach is because Gregs approach is more so give you a little, and then you will naturally find out the rest. In a way, it has a very far-reaching connection to the ecological approach, but it's not really the refinement of movement patterns from a point of fine-tuning motor control of training attractors. I don't know how far you have delved into motor control, but from what you see on videos of Greg, it's really different from what you would call the ecological approach. Like I said, this is my objective analysis from what I have seen on vid despite the fact that you are mad. I dont agree with him and accuse me of being subjective. Also, I dont think you really understand how science works because the ecological approach has not been proven to be better than any other method through a strong body of evidence like multiple controlled trials. I run a health tech start-up and use inferential statistics to determine outcomes of health interventions in exercise, genes, nutrition, etc. The amount of scientific evidence and Im not talking about epidemiological BS studies but high-quality trials is almost non-existent for the ecological approach being a superior method for learning. Im not saying it isn't, but you said he is looking for the best ways scientifically to improve, but this is more so theory and not hard evidence based science. Yes, maybe some studies out there leaning towards that thought process but still highly theoretical for the most part.

@@kevinsho2601 don't mistake disagreement for anger. I am definitely not mad, as I enjoy this topic of discussion--both sides of it! Still think it's tough for you to claim to be objective while commenting from your own perspective. Only the dynamics part of ecological dynamics has to do with the mathematical concepts. The ecological side has to do with the interaction of living complex systems that can rarely be quantified in a mathematical formula. It's clear you are well versed in the topic, and I appreciate your (subjective) perspective. Still think that when we use the concepts of ecological dynamics in coaching sports, it's never going to to look like an ideal mathematical model with predefined interactions on either side of the equation. And the evidence you are referencing is mounting. Many sports teams with massive monetary budgets are choosing to adopt these methods. I think (subjectively) this says something. Have a good one man, and good luck with your startup. Sounds like it's something we could all benefit from.

Respectfully, being a great athlete and an innovator are two different things.