I found a RARE ALL-Terrain "Wheel Loader" Forklift! Will it START?! (THIS Machine PUT UP A FIGHT!!!)

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Is it someones HOMEMADE machine? Was it a CUSTOM order by the Military? Did they ONLY make ONE? OR did all of the documentation for this Clark(Michigan) 35 AWS ALL-Terrain Forklift get lost in a fire many decades ago?!?
I DON'T KNOW!! If you do, PLEASE let me know! Also if you have any documentation for this machine, I would love to see it, if you would be so kind!!
Here's what I do know:
This is a late 1960's early 1970's Clark (Michigan) 35 AWS Forklift built on the Michigan 35 AWS Wheel Loader / Shovel rated to lift 5000lbs. It is All Wheel Steer, 4 Wheel Drive, and has a Perkins A4.236 Diesel engine (most likely transplanted, could be wrong). It has air over hydraulic brakes that of course don't work, with an engine powered air compressor and an on board air horn that DOES work & is AWESOME. I'm guessing it's from the 1970's or so (maybe earlier), but I'm not positive on that!
This thing is rollin on 24" tires and has ground clearance for DAYS!! Which makes it easy to take this unique forklift just about ANYWHERE, and I have every intention to put that to the TEST!!
This revival was DEFINITELY a challenge to say the least, and I'm betting that you'll NEVER guess why I couldn't get this thing to start! It was a new one on me!
So sit back, put on your couch mechanic hat, let me know your thoughts in the comments(YES I read them!), & join me as we bring life to this neglected old beast that was DEFINITELY destined for the scrap yard!
I promise you'll enjoy the journey, and I appreciate that you've decided to come along!
Please enjoy! I know I did!
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0:00 - Initial walk around
7:20 - Figuring out WHAT engine is in it
8:25 - Checking Fluids and Investigating a bit
9:48 - Clearing around the Machine to make it easier to work on
12:14 - Removing the Starter and Baring the Engine over
15:20 - Removing the Valve Cover
16:00 - Looking at the top of the Motor
16:24 - Opening the Oil pan to look for Water and Metal Chunks
17:16 - Pouring Engine oil and Penetrating oil over the top of the Motor
18:16 - Checking to see if the Valves are stuck
18:43 - Looking for a problem in the Transmission
20:12 - FINALLY freed up the Engine!!
21:43 - Reinstalling the Starter and Beating the DEVIL out of it
25:16 - Trying to use a Starter from another Machine
29:07 - Removing the Random piece of Car stuck in the forks
29:41 - Installing the Rebuilt Starter!
30:25 - Checking the Fuel tank and Adding Diesel
31:07 - First REAL attempt to Start this old Beast
33:55 - Removing and cleaning the Fuel Water Separator
35:36 - Jacking up the forks for transport
36:37 - Loading the Old Wheel Loader Forklift onto the trailer
44:49 - Heading back to Salvage Workshop
45:22 - It's BACK at the shop!!
48:43 - I figured out WHY it wouldn't Start
55:47 - Actually TRYING the OTHER Perkins Starter on this Machine
59:36 - Finally STARTING the Old Machine
1:00:54 - Checking to see if all 4 cylinders are Firing
1:02:34 - Testing the Transmission and Checking for Brakes
1:05:04 - It's time to Unload it!!
1:06:51 - Unhooking and Testing the Forklift mast
1:11:14 - Talking about the STARTER Problems!
1:13:26 - Removing the Broken Starter Mounting Bolt and adding a New Stud!
1:17:24 - Trying out the CORRECT Newly Rebuilt Starter for this Machine
1:19:17 - It Starts, It Drives, It DOESN'T Stop, & it has a WORKING Air HORN!!
1:20:39 - Do YOU know anything about this MACHINE... PLEASE HELP!
1:23:39 - Thanks for joining me on this adventure! LOT'S more to come!
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If you have any suggestions, questions, or comments, please leave them below!
Thanks for stopping by, I truly appreciate your support!
#WhatIsIt #WillitStart #SalvageWorkshop

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@benjaminnoakes5799 2 жыл бұрын

‘The higher the pitch the further your in’ True that 🤣

@WilliamEades_Frostbite 2 жыл бұрын

If you can carefully clean the paint off the label below the Clark data tag, you might find a military Data Tag. If it is one, there will be a NSN (National Stock Number) on it, and with that you might be able to research a copy of the Military Technical Order (Shop Manual) which will contain EVERYTHING about repair and operation.

@thomasstewart9368 2 жыл бұрын

In 40 years of pulling wrenches I wouldnt have ever figured the starter turning the engine backwards. Never have seen that - most likely never will. You are amazing 👍

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that CRAZY! I had never seen that before either!!! You'll prolly only see that on old machines like this one that have been half fixed for decades by people who haven't a clue! Either way, im glad to have figured it out!! I'll also probably never see that again! Thanks for watching and commenting, lots more to come!

@casparberends2719 2 жыл бұрын

Some starters types can be ordered in clockwise and anti-clockwise turning direction. Someone replaced starter and bought one with the wrong turning direction?

@roguedalek900 2 жыл бұрын

Detroit had marine applications that were counter rotating .

@duggandh 2 жыл бұрын

Check for smoke at the exhaust, that's a sign the engine is turning right direction.

@wilsondavis942 2 жыл бұрын

@@SalvageWorkshop it's a old Michigan 1950 Ag85 with a reman Perkins diesel with a retro fit Clark fork lift kit you could purchase these fork kits for all kinds of Michigan loaders.

@ale2302andy 2 жыл бұрын

Just one tip to load heavy equipament on the trailer, use some snatch blocks, they can double the pulling force if you have enough rope or steel cable. Just hook the block with the rope in the machine and the end of the rope you hook back in the trailer. This way you don't force too much the winch.

@TechGorilla1987 2 жыл бұрын

"I LOVE SNATCH BLOCKS!" - Destin from Smarter Everyday

@stonevalleyozark475 2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I came to say. Snatch blocks are a force multiplier!

@CloudHindlen 2 жыл бұрын

And also there is less stress applied to the cable and less likely chance to get hit by a broken cable.

@pronghorntractorwork 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Snatch blocks will save a winch motor. I though it sounded weird when you cranked it the first time...

@stevekopito 2 жыл бұрын

Don't stand inline with the cable either!! Had a friend killed by a hook on a winch cable that snapped and came back and hit him in the head. Was winching a peice of equipment onto a trailer that he had done hundreds of times before. 3 feet is the difference between life and death.

@bpetnoi1472 2 жыл бұрын

Young one, You made mention that the wheels were not tracking properly. On old military all terrain fork lifts they had the option to have the back wheels stay in the straight ahead position, an option to turn together for really tight turning circles and believe it or not the option to turn in the same direction together so the forklift would CRAB when moving forward or backward. Those lifts also had the option to lean sideways into a hill. I don't see enough levers to think this might be that type of machine with the leaning ability, but it should have a lever somewhere to control how the rear wheels act. Might be you don't have the control valve in the correct position to make it steer properly. So thus are the memories of an old SEABEE heavy equipment operator.

@marionstorm9004 2 жыл бұрын

J.I. Case made big 4 wd agricultural tractors that didn't articulate but rather had both axles steerable like your forklift. Models were 2470, 2670, 2870, 4490, 4690, and 4890. Many of the J.I. Case wheel loaders of the same era had air over hydraulic brakes. Manuals for a W14, W18, W20, or W24 would probably explain how that system worked and would be a good reference for your rough terrain forklift.

@brucepooley3623 2 жыл бұрын

Every day's a school day. We never stop learning...we just have trouble remembering yesterday's lessons.

@johnchetcuti6518 2 жыл бұрын

Hi bud, I worked for Clark for 7 years back in the 1970 when they set there company up in Australia. We built the bucket loaders for the Australia army. They were a bucket loader all we did is add a forklift attachment to it. I new it was a Perkins Engine that’s what we used in the smaller models. Don’t remember much more, been a long time. Cheers

@cyclei66 Жыл бұрын

For those Delco Remy Starters, you can reverse the rotation by turning the back brush plate 90 degrees. It may be marked.

@bigmotter001 Жыл бұрын

Great detective work on the starter. Very few mechanics I know would have caught that and I am 75 years old and know a lot of mechanics! Thanks for posting and looking forward to more! Take care!

@garyjones2582 2 жыл бұрын

So basically you were shooting happy juice into the exhaust..lol.. you just experienced one of life's valuable lessons that u will probably never forget.. I've had a few of those myself.. Thx for taking us along for the ride..

@giggiddy 9 ай бұрын

Absolutely love this guys demeanor, calm approach, and that he's not trying to carve out a Brand wearing stupid clothes, colored hair, or making up juvenile words and phrases. Just a solid guy turning wrenches and working through problems that we all encounter.

@rhiantaylor3446 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, for occasional use I wouldn't rush to rebuild an engine that starts as easily as that. I'd fix the brakes though !

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Oh i wont rush that! Too many other projects! Brakes, yeah that's gotta happen!

@TheChristeepher 2 жыл бұрын

Please use a snatch block before you fry your winch, use two if you have to, takes longer to do the pull but takes the amp draw down. Regards, Chris (UK)

@rcboatlife4907 2 жыл бұрын

I'm from England an these Perkins are bullet proof engines ... Love your videos great work

@weyayemanjoe3082 2 жыл бұрын

I'm from Northumberland in the UK I ❤️ his vids, But what happened too old red 🤔

@rcboatlife4907 2 жыл бұрын

@@weyayemanjoe3082 oh yeah .. it's hard to keep up with all the projects lol ..

@billrey8221 Жыл бұрын

When I saw that wheel setup on this machine, I immediately thought of the RT crane (Rough Terrain) machine I was trained on in the military, 1973. It had oblique, crab crawl and straight ahead steering. If this machine was built to mil Spec. you got a keeper! Good job!! Even with the mistakes. I was yelling at the screen....Laughing!

@space-pop3527 2 жыл бұрын

Once again I totally enjoyed your video. It is amazing to me how you diagnose and work on these old machines. Unfortunately, these antique machines were contemporary for me when I was in my 20's (late 60's). I ran some bulldozers and road grader's but never any loaders. I did run some small (electric) forklifts when I was in the army but never anything this big.

@zanforsh 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, as always. Your excitement at the challenge and the end result comes across in your videos and we're all rooting for you 👍 Looking forward to seeing the next one.

@tonytv7447 2 жыл бұрын

Searched for Clark military forklifts found it 1979 machine.

@SmittysShop 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely crazy!!!!! Seriously good diagnosis on this one!!!!! This is EXACTLY why when a car (truck) comes into my shop from another shop, I ALWAYS start at square one. Customers sometimes get frustrated and don't understand why. "So and so already checked that and said it was ok"...... You can never assume! Great detective work and AWESOME catch!! Thanks for sharing! It's good to keep this stuff in the back of my mind!!! Ya never know when it could come in handy!!!

@bohhica1 2 жыл бұрын

Well,well,well! What a surprise on a Saturday morning! I have 7 favorite you tube channels and 4 of them posted new videos. Thanks for taking us on the recovery,enjoyed your video, stay safe and healthy y’all.👍

@DonKelleyMusic 2 жыл бұрын

the starter direction was BRILLIANT! And I LOVE THE SOUND IN YOUR VOICE AS you figured it out! I know that feeling and sound very well.. when I figure something out after I've fought to solve a problem for ages and then I see something backwards etc... and voila!

@jamestrump9593 2 жыл бұрын

I've operated heavy machinery back in the day but never wrenched on any. I've been retired for 20 years and your videos make my day. I never have to fast forward through them like some of the others that I watch. You and Watch West Work are at the top of my list. the only thing that I am concerned about is that you're running out of room, but anyway keep the videos coming.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

I truly appreciate that James, and im glad you enjoy my crazy projects!! As far as ROOM goes, i ran out of that quite a while back!! Luckily i have some pretty awesome friends, one in particular who lets me use some of his land and currently I have about 9 vehicles & machines (currently) on his land... lot's more content on the machines and shop projects to come! Thanks for watching and commenting, i truly appreciate it!

@Lotek117 2 жыл бұрын

I just found this channel and its quickly become one of my new favorites, another great one you'd probably really like is "diesel creek" he saves all sorts of old big iron from the scrap heap and its just awesome to see guys like these saving all these wonderful machines, wish i had the skill and money to do so myself.

@chadsimmons6347 2 жыл бұрын

He just hauls junk from 1-yard to his

@patrickfrancisobrien532 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with you James. "Salvage Workshop" and "Watch Wes Work" are two of my favorite channels. Genuinely interesting and enthusiastic people too. "Diesel Creek" is also a go-to channel for me.

@robsdeviceunknown 2 жыл бұрын

Man you are always finding the cool stuff. Some day I will find a cool project like this. I have been looking for a skidsteer in bad shape I could fix up. Mainly cause I never drove one and know nothing about it. So figured if I got one broke down I could tear it all down and rebuild it all. That would give me a decent skidsteer that I need and knowledge.

@HeavyHaulKen 2 жыл бұрын

Great that you got it running! Look at the alternator cooling fins, it'll show rotation...if it has the correct fan. Should use a standard clark forklift lift chain. Clark made great units! The brakes...probably going to need to put seals in the master unit, and wheel end cylinders. Require wheel removal, thats going to get you at least 3 more videos! Enjoying your content! Glad you saved this one from the cutting torch! ALWAYS use leather gloves when handling wire rope...and stay clear! Tractor supply sells winch remotes, safer than being next to the rope.

@MrGordy61 2 жыл бұрын

I started praying that cable did not snap with him standing there, then I figured it held with as much time that was left on the video.

@cyberprog 2 жыл бұрын

Best to use a snatch block also to make the pull easier!

@angelmonge8119 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGordy61 I was worry about that cable too.

@daveffs1935 2 жыл бұрын

You're a braver man than me, stood next to that cable dragging that lump up.

@peternicholsonu6090 2 жыл бұрын

Me too got real nervous

@christopherhunter1490 5 ай бұрын

Was wondering if this would be the video when I would see a man cut in two.

@bannzai 2 жыл бұрын

This is worth spending some money on and keep it for yourself. When if ever are you gonna find another beast like this. Hope you give it a nice coat of paint too. Love health and respect from Scotland UK.

@DaleDirt 2 жыл бұрын

Holy Smoke , turning the wrong way .....That was a good catch . Awesome . She sounds okay , put the rebuild on the back burner get the brakes working . The wiring is not a big deal . For occasional use , just put a solar panel on it to keep it topped off. Good work .

@avrel820 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed watching you as usual :-) Glad you got it back to the shop and found out it was turning over backwards.. Now it runs better with the original starter rebuilt... Good job finding a bigger radiator that will improve cooling the system...

@tzajaczajac 2 жыл бұрын

That should have a bucket on the front they never came with a forklift someone has made that up but that's not a bad thing cus they never had enough power for proper loader work, will be a handy set of forks. Good job figuring out the engine turning backwards not everyone would think of that👌

@ctiley2212 2 жыл бұрын

The smoke isn't oil burning, it is injectors over-fuelling it when it is cold as do a lot of engines (Cummins top stop are notorious for it), I wouldn't rebuild the engine until I had put a number of hours on it to see if it has any problems. Perkins are a "dirty" engine at the best of times, run for ever but smoke and leak oil as a matter of course. Rebuild the injectors but leave the engine alone for now.

@theDaftman 2 жыл бұрын

it has a dribbling injector. You see a lot of diesel cars do it when first starting in a morning when they have been stood overnight.

@KrikkitWarlord 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely! At most I'd pull the injectors and have them refurbed, however most likely I'd leave it be, not worth spending big on it for the sake of a bit of diesel...

@ctiley2212 2 жыл бұрын

@@KrikkitWarlord Dribbling or squirting injectors instead of spraying injectors will cause issues such as melted pistons so it is very important to have the injectors serviced and to run a fuel cleaner through the fuel system prior to having the injectors done (so dirt doesn't foul the refurbed injectors). It's cheap insurance. I doubt if this machine will do big hours unless sold but it still cheaper than an engine rebuild.

@theDaftman 2 жыл бұрын

@@ctiley2212 yes that is a possibility, I've been running my van with this problem for over 7 years like this, bit bad now as it blanks the field out, so I'm going to get it sorted now, yes it could it could cause damage, but remember old Perkins are modern engines. I wouldn't bother even doing mine now if it wasn't for the embarrassment of all the smoke. its used daily and its always smocked on starting first thing.

@kerbsidebob1 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job I would have been stumped with that starter also. well done in spotting the issue I will remember that in future when I am doing similar jobs. It’s an interesting old machine. Some of these old compressors were very noisy could be like a set of bagpipes thumping away.

@jamescole1786 2 жыл бұрын

1/14/22; Oh yes! Mighty good observation of fan turning direction...then distractions...then recall fan turning 'wrong'...then musical chairs on starters...then reworked starter for opposite direction/clockwise/correct timing rotation & bingo! Admire your commitment to this type of hard 'dig-out-of-the-weeds' salvage/rescue of old but still usable heavy equipment. Another great job! Also know that another YT guy, Matt at Diesel Creek, has the same penchant for finding/reviving old heavy equipment 'buried-in-the-weeds' and making YT videos celebrating the restoration. Much enjoy your channel. Stay safe!👍👍👍🛠🧑‍🔧😊🍺

@jimplatts6172 2 жыл бұрын

In round about 1978/79 I worked in a quarry and we had a brand new Mitch wheel shovel with a 6cyl Perkins the heater was a coil in the manifold and a diesel resivour fed from the injector return When cold turn on press heater 10 seconds and start it was the best machine we had. especially for cold start.

@grosseileracingteam 2 жыл бұрын

Make or find a fairlead roller for the bulkhead of your trailer. Looks like the winch cable was dragging in the top of it causing lots of extra drag. A snatch block does work wonders too.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but that trailer is borrowed and once I buy a large deckover trailer I'll do something like a roller fairlead... I also already changed my winch mount to make it higher that it was before

@caseyc870 2 жыл бұрын

What a great find! Looking forward to more on both of these new finds

@astonmartin2727 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to you fixing up the small stuff. Keep us updated. Lovely video. Good project.

@jesterr7133 2 жыл бұрын

I love your videos. You attack things the same way that I do. You just go in and figure it out. I've 100% self taught, and I like just learning as I do it. I enjoy the way you do things.

@juliesmall3756 2 жыл бұрын

I always like to mow and trim around a machine when I start working on it too. You don't have to wade through things while you work, and it is so much nicer when you have to get down on the ground, like you inevitably have to, also helps when you drop a tool. I have run quite a few small Michigan rear steer loaders back in the day, this is a more modern machine though. Seems like all the quarries had one about this size for loading pickups back in the 70s

@kevinmartin7760 2 жыл бұрын

You also don't stir up as many bugs as you walk around

@joemascioni3101 2 жыл бұрын

That wheel loader was definitely made by clark on a michigan chasis. I used to haul lumber out of southern Ontario Canada back in the late 80's and they were very popular up there in those lumber yards. I remember seeing them because in the winter they were the only machine that could get through the snow to get to the stacks of lumber. Most had tire chains on in the winter.

@airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 жыл бұрын

It seems that particular one (if I'm reading that plate at 2:28 correctly) was made specifically in the glorious Railway City! My home town!

@pinwizz69 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely an awesome find and purchase to help you get things loaded and moved you buy on your travels. Especially when they're coming out of fields and buildings.

@mischef18 2 жыл бұрын

Yep did enjoy the recovery and getting it to start bro. The starter turning the motor backwards is something I have not come across before. Getting it to stop on command is a good idea before any major work is done, Safe travels

@kennyramos20 2 жыл бұрын

Love seeing old Iron put to good use again, usually older machines are much more rugged and powerful than newer equipment with all the computers and sensors etc. And where's ol red at though?! I wanna see more of that old CAT! Love the videos!

@ElectricGears 2 жыл бұрын

One clue that the starter turns the other way is the chamfer on the gear teeth that you can see at 55:48. The one off the other Perkins engine has the matching chamfer angle for the flywheel teeth.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

I think i knew that at some point, but definetly didnt pay attention to it on this project! Good info, thanks!

@Bobbywolf64 2 жыл бұрын

@@SalvageWorkshop I was looking at the shiney spots on the starter gear. You had the 2 starters nose to nose, but the shiney spots were both facing the camera, which means they had wear on opposite sides of the teeth! Glad you got it figured.

@kerryevans7413 2 жыл бұрын

Great find on the Clark/ Michigan forklift. If you can get the brakes and wiring and engine all fixed up. You will have a nice forklift. Good job figuring out the starter problem.

@jenniferrose6184 Жыл бұрын

My husband, a retired coal miner and mechanic, has been bingeing your videos and I also find them interesting. He wants me to tell you that when you put the hub bearing on your lift ( not sure if it’s in this video or another one), using 2 nuts & the ring/locking washer, & the locking washer didn’t line up on the pin so you retightened the inner nut, a lot of times you can flip the locking washer and it will line up on the pin without having to retighten the inner nut.

@stevecorey3399 2 жыл бұрын

From looking at another forum The standard 35 b Could come with a gas engine or several diesels including the Perkins you were working on. I worked at Allis Chalmers assembling lift trucks in the 70s and 80s we put together military and commercial lift trucks all though none were four-wheel-drive, but we would install almost any engine including the Perkins in those lift trucks! I seriously doubt that version you have is a military version it would have serial plates indicating that it was made for the military. I the forums also indicate it is tough to find manuals for those, before I would overhaul that engine I would completely go through the fuel system, I think you got a pretty cool machine there as far as the lift on the front of the machine I think it was just ordered that way we could put on any attachment a customer ordered at our assembly plant! Good lick

@LeoTonius 2 жыл бұрын

Could this be an ex military piece of equipment?

@billhedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Really excited about this machine! Can’t wait to see it in use.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Bill! Me too!

@laughton57 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man - nice work. I was yelling, just like you, when it started. It's past my bed time. And at my age I can't take anymore excitement today. LOL I'll have to finish the video tomorrow. Again, nice work.

@phillipdickinson8557 2 жыл бұрын

That was a fantastic video loved it don't miss a single one thank you for sharing and your time was really great.

@bataviawillem1 2 жыл бұрын

That hard piece of metal in the stud is no problem what so ever, take a torch make it white hot and slow cool, this will anneal the driver bit to a condition that you can drill it fairly easy. P.S. does not work very well on tungsten carbide.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was the next step if bashing it into the middle didnt work! Great tip!

@ralfus37 2 жыл бұрын

Check for positive ground before wiring the alternator. You may have changed polarity when you switched starter from the replacement unit.

@GrandsonofKong 2 жыл бұрын

I owned a twin engine(gas) boat. I recall only the starter and camshaft were different from "standard" engine to get it to run in counter rotation. With a diesel, perhaps the injector pump as well as these I don't think were run off the camshaft. Good catch though, that would have perplexed many a decent trouble shooter for a bit. Look forward to more of this and your other restores! Keep'em coming!

@richardkilloran3818 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy your KZfaq channel very much. Keep up the great work and save that old equipment. This Clark fork truck video is almost a year old, so I have a lot to catch-up on.

@dphoenix1 2 жыл бұрын

Easy and free first step (waaaay before engine rebuild) is a good valve adjustment, assuming those don’t use hydraulic lifters. Then injector tips, and then maybe have the injection pump checked over. I’d be willing to bet the valve adjustment would help with that initial startup smokeshow considerably.

@gheice_modelism 2 жыл бұрын

The Perkins 4236 is one of the most reliable engines and low consumption that I know for heavy equipment. Pretty popular on spanish heavy equipment during the 70,s and 80’s.

@briscaf21 2 жыл бұрын

Just about every massey ferguson tractor since the dawn of time untill the agco takeover had a perkins 4 or 6 cylinder engine in it, absolutely bomb and bullet proof in terms of reliability and run like a swis watch.

@Will45ACP Жыл бұрын

You got every right to be excited and happy, man....good job! Them little old perkins are fuel sipping reliable little workhorses, nice to see it going and such a handy machine for your purposes.

@RSCOZZY 2 жыл бұрын

"We ain't got enuff juice" 😆 Being from South London that made me chuckle. Another fantastic video dude. Thank you for sharing all your projects and endeavours! 👍🍻🍻

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@joshuaolsen8844 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see an overhaul and making this fully functional again!

@Makete100 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Love this kind of stuff.

@31144 2 жыл бұрын

Starters can't run backwards, the sprag bearing on the bendix gear will only allow it the drive one way, a good way to tell if it's a clockwise or counter clockwise starter is to look at the small leading edges on the teeth of the bendix gear 👍

@Farm_fab 2 жыл бұрын

Starters can turn backwards, and it requires a different bendix and field to run the other way. My buddy rebuilds many starters, alternators, and generators, and he told me that to change the rotation of a starter/generator for a tractor, it needs a different field to change that. Depending on the application, Lister Petter has engines that are either clockwise or counterclockwise, or if one is from the UK, anticlockwise.

@jimsworthow531 2 жыл бұрын

Good job on getting it going. That thing is cool; make a frame so you can install a snow plow. remove the forks and have a fram attach so you can lift and lower a plow. you could install the plow rise with a chain so it can trip up on obstructions.

@shadowbrookmedia 2 жыл бұрын

Have enjoyed all your videos - keep it up! I've found when I get to the point of asking myself "what am I missing" it'll come to me in a dream soon. -- I HAD and it was usually something simple. Never assume the guy who worked on it last knew anything about what he was doing!

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip!

@davidj.collins2239 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of loaders I saw on flight lines in USAF back in the 70's. Could be wrong but seem to remember seeing loaders that looked similar.

@heathhunter5306 2 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@MacGyver-1 2 жыл бұрын

The starter you had rebuilt can be reversed by disassembling it and reversing the magnet drum and reassembling

@peterbennett8567 2 жыл бұрын

You'd also have to change the Bendix to operate with reversed rotation.

@tomswindler64 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always,you do have a knack for finding unique piece of equipment.just keep doing what your doing and thinking and doing what your doing and carry on 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎

@donaldgibson3121 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that video and hope to see you working on this machine in the future.

@iantuck6364 2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised you didn't use snatch blocks when loading something that heavy.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I didn't have one with me, but the winch is rated to pull 17,500 lbs with a single line... This machine weighs about 15,000 lbs so it shouldn't need a block & tackle... Now the winch has some major issues I didn't know about when I bought it used, but we got this one recovered regardless!

@russellgiles1531 2 жыл бұрын

The more wraps of wire on the drum the less power the winch has, snatch block and stand well back from the cable 👍

@haroldwilkerson2026 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 17,500 pound winch and it is definitely not rated at that maybe 6000lbs before it quits

@chess135 2 жыл бұрын

@@haroldwilkerson2026 his one is better.

@dfross87 2 жыл бұрын

@@SalvageWorkshop 17,500lb ON THE FIRST LAYER. Each subsequent layer of cable reduces the available pulling power due to the extra leverage working against the winch. By the 4th layer of rope/cable you will have lost over 20% of the available maximum single line pull. That's another advantage of a snatch block -- it allows you to spool out more cable, which increases the effective pulling power of the winch due to the reduced leverage.

@kengalaska1684 2 жыл бұрын

What a find. When you found the problem with the starter blew my mind. Looking forward to seeing more on this machine.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

It blew my mind too. Thanks for watching, Ken! Lots more to come!

@chuckh.2227 2 жыл бұрын

I love the fact you don't play music when you time lapse I want to hear real sounds I been a mechanic for 30 years and I learned a few things from you I found your channel a week ago but I can't get enough!!! Thanks

@anilmahabirsingh422 2 жыл бұрын

Thats the craziest thing Ive ever heard about and would never have figured that out ... well done

@julias-shed 2 жыл бұрын

Well done spotting the wrong rotation not many would. 😀 that rope hoist looked a bit sketchy, have you not got a pulley sheave? That would have doubled pulling power.

@MY-bw2nb 2 жыл бұрын

As far as starter turning backwards depends on application your starter has the drive facing the back of engine mounted along side the engine now a 1206 international farm tractor has the starter mounted from the back with drive facing front of engine attached to the bell housing above the transmission there are numerous pieces of equipment that mount from backside due to space and yes they can be a pain to get them out on an older international tractor aside from the bolt patterns different clocking is available too. If that engine has been cranked a lot in previous people's attempts it would not have been pumping oil to the bearings probably wouldn't be a bad idea to drop pan and check the bearings and clean out the pan at same time get a mechanical oil pressure gauge on it see how the oil pressure is before running it too much and like you said need brakes or a big rock. Good job at figuring it out that it turned over backwards 👍👍👍💨💨💨

@richardcornelius1050 2 жыл бұрын

Electric starting motors are manufactured in both CW / Clockwise and CCW Counter Clockwise rotations

@breech123 2 жыл бұрын

Great find. Hope to see someday a final video with everything working on it.

@christopherbateman6126 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video great to watch ,well spotted seeing the engine going the the wrong way I don't think I would have spotted seeing that ,it's good to see the old stacker truck back on the road 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@brimptonestateservices3317 2 жыл бұрын

I've been playing with engines since the mid 1950s. Never would have thought of a starter, when it wasn't a rope, going the wrong way.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a bit different!! That's a good point, i have dealt with this on pull started engines!

@brimptonestateservices3317 2 жыл бұрын

@@SalvageWorkshop Wow, that was quick. What is the time there. Here its 2122

@ahabeger 2 жыл бұрын

Find a set of left hand drill bits for extracting broken bolts like that. Works better than the blue wrench usually. Those motor mounts look pretty factory.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Ive never had good luck with left handed drill bits, but thats probably because i usually work on stuff that's broken AND rusted in place!

@stuartkarshagen6274 2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome man,love watching you revive old iron.🤙🏻

@oddtechman 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and an unusual find! Thanks for sharing and look forward to the fix video !

@batterymakermarkii2654 2 жыл бұрын

Dang, you are building up a FLEET!

@charleslanier1992 2 жыл бұрын

Humm bra🤔

@schmidt028 2 жыл бұрын

Clark owned Michigan and that’s a Perkins diesel.. it was competition to a pettybone before the gradall became popular Michigan was bought by Volvo’s VME division and from there they killed the line.

@johnrice6793 Жыл бұрын

Perkins diesels we’re used in commercial fishing boats. I grew up in Petersburg, Alaska. Although Detroit diesels we’re popular it was and is the hellacious scream they make - they’re two cycle. It was Perkins (known too for excellent fuel consumption) and Volvo Penta that saved the ears and both known for excellent reliability. Most excellent video, excellent voice over!!

@typrus6377 2 жыл бұрын

Dang Bubba, that's a great catch! Had I noticed the exhaust sucking, I might've looked at it closer, but if I hadn't... I promise you this would've aggravated the hell out of me. Another good'un bud!

@darinwilton9122 2 жыл бұрын

that serial number comes back as a TRACTOR SHOVEL. that said, it could have been a custom ordered unit and some did in fact come with Perkins engines. edit: i did manage to download a copy of the parts manual

@JoeSmith-pe5we 2 жыл бұрын

nice! Were you able to get it to him????

@srchastain859 2 жыл бұрын

Never, EVER, EVER stand that close to the winch cable. If it should break, it could cut you in half !!!!

@johnking8679 2 жыл бұрын

That was my thought when I observed you standing that CLOSE to the winch cable !! If that cable had snapped you would definitely have been cut in half or otherwise been severely injured !! Please excercise more CAUTION when doing these sorts of jobs !! 'Cause I care !!

@elektrish4217 2 жыл бұрын

watch "mass damage snapping winch cables" 3:45 It also explains why you should never allow the cable to have contact with steel while under tension

@barrywinand5628 2 жыл бұрын

this guy has is own you tube channel so he's got to be doing it correctly

@kevinblevins2612 2 жыл бұрын

Looked like synthetic rope to me not cable

@chukzombi 2 жыл бұрын

i was watching that part with an extreme cringe reaction. man the damage that could have done if it snapped. at least throw a heavy cloth on it. whats that Diesel Creek creek song? "come with me and youll see a world of OSHA violations" i was humming that hehe

@herbertlittle2699 2 жыл бұрын

Thank man ,I enjoyed watching you get that machine running.

@ludwigvanmulders1730 2 жыл бұрын

Another great job men.... Nice that you found out the reason of not working. Have a lot of fun with this new equipment.

@conradealie9304 2 жыл бұрын

In the marine environment (boating), there are “left handed rotating” engines and “right handed rotating” engines. A left handed engine tends to push the boat to the right while a right handed engine tends to push to the left. To off set the pushing to one side, a lot of boats are twin engine….one left handed and one right handed or “counter rotating” powered.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting... i did not know that! I appreciate the knowledge!! The more you know!

@conradealie9304 2 жыл бұрын

@@SalvageWorkshop that starter you pulled most likely fits to a left handed Perkins diesel. If it’s marine grade, it’s got value.

@mrmotofy 2 жыл бұрын

But if an engine just turns a shaft and propeller, how would it veer a direction?

@conradealie9304 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrmotofy there are left and right handed propellers, and an engine would have a prop to match the engines rotation. Also, the tendency to push in one direction it’s a very subtle effect, practically unnoticeable. I should add, minor rudder adjustments solves this issue.

@shoppe99 2 жыл бұрын

I've done a lot of shade tree mechanics and if I saw a fan blade pushing air into the radiator and not pulling it through my first thought would have been someone put the fan blade on backwards. Never really thought about the direction a engine rotates.Then I would have though "welp, that's somethong else I have to fix once I get the engine started!" I doubt I ever would have thought the engine was being cranking the wrong direction! I didn't even think you could crank an engine backwards. If I ever had to crank an engine by hand to see if it was free I would just look at the fan blade and figure out which way to crank it to make sure the fan was pulling air through the radiator. Now if somebody put the fan blade on backwards i would have really been screwed! Although now that I think about it, I do remember airplanes when you handswing the propeller to start sometimes the it will kick back and actually start up backwards and the prop will push air and not pull air. But making that connection between aeroplanes and diesel tractor machines, and the direction that they would crank up, would have been a leap in itself for me. I like the alt. fan blade idea. I'll tuck that one away in my dusty 'ol memory bank. Thx.

@CrusaderSports250 2 жыл бұрын

Most engines have the starter beside the engine, some, (the awkward ones), put the starter alongside the bell housing/gearbox, this would be another reason for the starter to run "backwards", not an obvious one if your not familiar with this.

@JimiLawson 2 жыл бұрын

Fitting the fan backwards won't change the airflow direction, to reverse the airflow you have to either change the D.O.R or reverse the blade pitch.

@firewalker1372 2 жыл бұрын

When we had to do work on our Hemitt M978, I went online and found manuals for military vehicles. Might be able to go down that avenue with this machine.

@davekimbler2308 2 жыл бұрын

I was yelling into my screen about that ! We ran the old 2 stroke diesel Detroit and they would run backwards or forwards and that’s why people in the boating industry used them ! The way we tested is to shoot some go-go juice in the exhaust and if it started it was hooked up wrong , but of course you won’t have a throttle that way , no fuel and no way to regulate it ! Up in Alaska on the pipe line we had a mix of left and right turning rigs and that’s what the mechanics would do ! Also you could have switched the battery cables and gotten the same result because they can run both ways the same ! The transmission is different also but I think yours is more like a hydrostatic so your forward becomes your reverse . We thought about putting an air/fuel/metering device on both intake and exhaust to run both ways and all you’d have to do is kill and restart going the other way so no need for a transmission with gears just a CVT system !

@Mrzizzy69 2 жыл бұрын

I love your videos man...

@2bonk22 2 жыл бұрын

The weeds are called Burdocks or just burs for short. The roots are edible and have medicinal properties, here's a blurb from Wikipedia- Arctium is a genus of biennial plants commonly known as burdock, family Asteraceae.[2] Native to Europe and Asia, several species have been widely introduced worldwide.[3]

@chipsatterly4902 2 жыл бұрын

I always had a pair of great Brittany Spaniels but they had long hair and once they got into a BURdock field, I often had to CARRY them both out of the field if the burrs got between their toes. The burrs had microscopic BARBS that were tougher than velcro. Hell, I think velcro was based on the burdock barbed seeds. When the burdocks got wrapped up in the dog's coat, it would often take HOURS to get them all out. In the end, I bought some grooming shavers in order to get those damned burrs off, Thanks for your info!!

@lawrenceaderneck7165 2 жыл бұрын

you channel came up on my utube page and I'm glad it did. you explained yourself well on what the situation was and dealt with it ,, well done.

@marcerivest6204 2 жыл бұрын

Another pretty sweet find. When you get all these machines fixed up you will be able to tackle any kind of jobs.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

That's the goal!

@jerryodell1168 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible this lift truck was an airport lift truck like the ones used in the 1940s thru 1960s to lift pallets in into cargo planes? It has that appearance.

@firewalker1372 2 жыл бұрын

He mentioned in the videos where he first started messing with those lift trucks. Where he got the trucks from I do believe. I wanna say they used them for roofing. Getting materials onto and off the roof.

@imchris5000 2 жыл бұрын

I have drove a clark forklift that was very similar to that. they made a bunch of weird versions to order but most of them you will find look more like a tractor. theres a ton of custom parts on that one though

@relaxingsounds7652 2 жыл бұрын

"It's definitely seen better days, but so does about everything else that I own" Me, too, Buddy! LOL

@lancedaniels 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting and sharing. Great to see this old machine get some TLC

@MH-wg6bz 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just thinking about all the cost, labor and frustration the previous guy had not noticing the engine was turning the wrong way.

@SalvageWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too! That's probably why i got it so Cheap!!

@pmae9010 2 жыл бұрын

if you had the power reversed the lat would have smoked, DC motors don't care about polarity, you have to change the brush configuration to reverse the rotation.

@kevinmartin7760 2 жыл бұрын

That's true if it has a wound (electromagnetic) field, which this is. For permanent magnet motors, reversing the applied polarity will reverse the motor. But then you would not want to be wailing away on the casing with a hammer because you would break the magnets.

@margaretwilkinson9140 2 жыл бұрын

love the fact that you got yourself some nice toyz now! Dump, Backhoe, Fork Lift. if anybody can get them all straightened out its you. your videos are very entertaining btw...