I grew up in a cult. It was heaven -- and hell. | Lilia Tarawa

I grew up in a cult. It was heaven -- and hell. | Lilia Tarawa | TEDxChristchurch

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Lilia Tarawa was brought up in the Gloriavale Christian Community on the West Coast of the South Island of New Zealand, where she was constantly surrounded by everyone she loved. But over time, she began to see the dark side of her community, and ultimately realised that she had to get out. In this raw and emotional talk, Lilia shares the reality of life in a cult, and her heart-wrenching journey to break free.
Lilia Tarawa is a New Zealand writer, speaker, holistic health consultant and business coach. She is a member of the Māori Ngāi Tahu tribe. Lilia was born into New Zealand's infamous religious cult, Gloriavale, and fled with her eleven family members at eighteen years of age. Her extraordinary life experience compelled her to pursue a career promoting human rights, welfare and empowerment.
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This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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@sauceboss7165 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine getting bullied by your pops because you have leadership skills

@JixieDye 5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I don't have to. To be honest I have shared similar experiences, though I didn't grow up in a cult.

@laughoutloudpaperanimation4846 4 жыл бұрын

Jixie Dye oh I feel so sorry for u

@jackybackyfofacky2950 4 жыл бұрын

I never had a grandpa but my mom, for sure XD

@overclucker 4 жыл бұрын

@@Sullivancohen Unfortunately people that tend to form cults also tend to be controlling and manipulative. Good people don't usually thirst for power.

@catwoman3098 4 жыл бұрын

I-

@oxybrightdark8765 3 жыл бұрын

She’s allowed to be emotional when talking about trauma. You guys need to stop.

@shineyroller9175 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree.

@AstralNana 3 жыл бұрын

"Dem emoshunal wymin amirite, gamers?"

@strawberrybunny.2983 3 жыл бұрын

@@sikeitschelseab5538 with her past i wouldn't blame her

@oxybrightdark8765 3 жыл бұрын

sikeitschelsea b Well, the good memories are mixed up with the bad ones. It’s not bipolar, it’s trauma. Also, bipolar doesn’t even look like that❌

@strawberrybunny.2983 3 жыл бұрын

@@oxybrightdark8765 i agree although any form of mental disorder still wouldn't shock me

@omoid1749 3 жыл бұрын

This was what your grandfather was afraid of And he was damn right to be scared of the immense power you carry You're a damn real leader, yes ma'am

@penguin5695 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@herman3376 2 жыл бұрын

@pambb5743 2 жыл бұрын

Well said! I agree! 🌹

@lonelylion_ 2 жыл бұрын

yesss

@ira6133 Жыл бұрын

She can think critically, also a thing to be scared of if you want to keep someone in a cult

@rocks4133 3 жыл бұрын

wow, the way she flips between the worst trauma and best memories just represents how after anything horrible happened they would bring good things back in to immediately brainwash the children into thinking they were in a nice place, and that it was normal to be manipulated constantly

@lululola8080 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know. A bit too theatrical. She's overacting, in my opinion

@samblackside 2 жыл бұрын

@@lululola8080 you are just spreading doubt and negativity throughout this entire comment section and you’re sick. You don’t know how people cope with their trauma and you shouldn’t judge them for what they do. If this is the way she expresses herself, let her.

@lululola8080 2 жыл бұрын

@@samblackside I don't think I'm spreading any hate. You're the one who's being judgmental and calling me sick. There's no doubt in my mind that this woman is performing. Doesn't mean she's lying. But she's putting on a show maybe for dramatic effect, it's all good to me, but when you put yourself out there by making a TED talk, people are entitled to comment. So why don't you take a couple of aspirin and chill the f out

@diveshrana7359 2 жыл бұрын

@@lululola8080 Women hates women- Chris Rocks

@lululola8080 2 жыл бұрын

@@diveshrana7359 you're pathetic

@mikasanchez1310 6 жыл бұрын

She's crying because of the emotional abuse she's gone through, not because she's whiny.

@CurseTempo 6 жыл бұрын

Stephen Richards It sounds fake to a certain extent.

@olive4naito 6 жыл бұрын

Stephen Richards On the other hand, acting is about drawing on your existing emotions and personal experiences. To be able to do that instead of keeping quiet to save face or to not inconvenience people can't be easy. Only crying when something bad happens and shutting up because it's in the past could be considered "fake" as well.

@MariaHelena-eb7ds 6 жыл бұрын

Stephen Richards you literally just have no empathy. that’s sad. go hug ur mom or something. get out of this video

@claraf.6833 6 жыл бұрын

Bringing those kind of memories up again or having them brought up is the worst feeling for any person that went through something horrible. It makes you relive everything and feel the pain again. I'm astonished she handled it so well.

@ixd7ev254 6 жыл бұрын

Bringing it into the open and seeing it all for what it really is will eventually dim the pain. It is a wonderful way to heal. Avoiding the discussion will just bury the hurt deeper to come out later in wrath and beyond understanding, manifest in physical diesease. She is wise and has been counselled in health. The next step is to take responsibility for your future thoughts and to understand that you have the power to stop the hurt going into future generations.

@inayahcee3131 4 жыл бұрын

She's emotional because when you've been brainwashed and abused, talking about it is difficult.

@Someone-do6zm 4 жыл бұрын

She does it so friking beautifully and fluent tho

@starlingswallow 4 жыл бұрын

I know. I've been there... 😞

@_despresso_ 4 жыл бұрын

Starling Swallow i hope you’re okay now. Stay strong❤️

@tyecollaborator5017 4 жыл бұрын

"Yyyyeeeaaaaaaahhh."

@elijahschulz3749 4 жыл бұрын

I actually go to school with her sisters and cusins (others who escaped) and its really interesting (not in a bad way)

@angeldream1 3 жыл бұрын

I left a cult 3 years ago. Not the same kind but I have some similarities. I’m so proud of her for leaving. She’s so powerful and radiant.

@kamalram3104 3 жыл бұрын

Well said, Cudos to you all for leaving!

@angeldream1 3 жыл бұрын

@@kamalram3104 thank you !!

@immortal_shrooms6757 3 жыл бұрын

what was it about?

@janasmit9358 3 жыл бұрын

Keep trying

@angeldream1 3 жыл бұрын

@@immortal_shrooms6757 Christianity but like weird rules and lots of control, lots of talk of modesty. No instruments no kitchens or food allowed and no dancing ever, and water baptism literally saves you and stuff like that

@alyssameikle6860 3 жыл бұрын

It took me a second to realize what her grandfather ment when he said “we don’t want women like you”and then it hit me and my own stomach twisted and turned.

@sofss475 2 жыл бұрын

can u explain pls

@literallyadrianna 2 жыл бұрын

@@sofss475 I think what their grandfather meant is that they want women that they can gaslight and that were vulnerable and considering she was seen as a leader made her not vulnerable and unwanted because she wasn’t what they wanted her to be

@hidden7249 2 жыл бұрын

@@literallyadrianna I think it's mainly that he didn't want anyone to be powerful because he wanted to be able to control everyone and especially the women because he felt it easier to control them

@antimol4593 2 жыл бұрын

You better see a doctor quickly your liver gets involved.

@caylaharasimo6941 2 жыл бұрын

@@sofss475 it’s means he only wanted me women he could control and that would listen and do everything he told them to do, he didn’t want women that were strong and capable of being leaders.

@saaraguhar1234 4 жыл бұрын

Someone pls tell the lady with the tissue that WE APPRECIATE THAT

@ungudupop 4 жыл бұрын

M X 14:20

@ronantorbey3048 4 жыл бұрын

Saara Guhar she got tf nexted

@rileydiane. 4 жыл бұрын

OML I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THE SAME THING 😂

@hilmarv9548 3 жыл бұрын

I felt it😢😂

@lauren789369 3 жыл бұрын

YES I hope she sees this!!

@pragnaguntupalli7963 3 жыл бұрын

My own stomach dropped the second she said that her grandfather said "We don't want women like you."

@pragnaguntupalli7963 3 жыл бұрын

@Dafup It’s fine haha - it basically means that they only wanted women that were obedient and did whatever was told. But the reason my stomach dropped is because she was so proud and what he said was like a punch to the stomach. No one was expecting that

@MrSparklespring 3 жыл бұрын

@@pragnaguntupalli7963 Yes, it's a typical old fashioned male patriarch sect in which women are treated as second hand citizens.

@verajust6917 3 жыл бұрын

I cried, sadly it wasn't a surprise to me. Everything she said sounded so familiar, my big goal in life was to get married... and my parents fearful love consistently expressed this confusing concern that i might not even be able to reach that goal.

@dazer8081 3 жыл бұрын

that hurt 😔

@angelas1761 3 жыл бұрын

Fr my heart broke and her voice cracking when she shared that made me tear up

@honeyOTU_ 2 жыл бұрын

how can anyone say she's faking her tears? how about y'all try retelling the most horrifying things you've seen in your lifetime without breaking down in tears and feeling how you felt the day you saw those thing happen.

@dolliepartiee 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@antimol4593 2 жыл бұрын

You are right in your assertion, but that doesn't make this particular one more real than the others that are fake. Only the faker knows that they are fake, regardless of the volume of tears shed. Tears don't mean much. They are just tears and nothing more. If judges go by tears, our prisons will be empty. Not every pair of glasses you see on people is prescribed. They could be part of a disguise by criminals. Tell me something else.

@lululola8080 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think she's faking her tears but she's clearly overacting. Look at how she started the story with the big smile and radiant eyes. Knowing full well she's going to be talking about horrible things. That's definitely acting.

@iamquestioning2195 2 жыл бұрын

@@lululola8080 I don’t think she’s overreacting, did you hear what she went through? Sorry if that came out as rude, but she went through a hard time.

@lululola8080 2 жыл бұрын

@@iamquestioning2195 I didn't say she's overreacting I said she is over acting. Jumping from the big smile to tears is just too Hollywood for my taste.

@angeldream1 3 жыл бұрын

“Love for others broke the chains that shackled me” that is so beautiful 😭 17:30

@sarcasticsweetness5989 4 жыл бұрын

"We don't want women like you." I died inside

@HolyMith 4 жыл бұрын

Weak rules set by weak men.

@engr.enciso 4 жыл бұрын

literally

@DemetriusDrekin01 4 жыл бұрын

I go to church, all of the leaders in my church are men and we have three separate meeting locations, with three different pastors. It sucks

@daymi7300 4 жыл бұрын

@@DemetriusDrekin01 why

@johnmalinsnz2090 4 жыл бұрын

I want women like you.

@bulgna 4 жыл бұрын

The way that she goes from things like "lollipop planes" for "we don't want woman like you" is chilling

@bibi4777 4 жыл бұрын

Facts thought I was the only one who felt that way

@starful911 4 жыл бұрын

My heart dropped in a second

@Ahcatan 4 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a joke, and when it wasn't, it shook me.

@flinngordon68 4 жыл бұрын

it was a really well put together speech

@CelebrianUndomiel 4 жыл бұрын

I know, right? Such a startling 180 degree turn from paradise to sinister, very effective way of conveying what it must have felt like

@jaclyn.jenkins 2 жыл бұрын

i grew up with a cult like religion. my mom married a “pastor” and the level of abuse i suffered at his hands, has forever scarred me. when that girl was talking about being isolated and no one talking to her, it resonated with me because i went through something very similar. i was not allowed to speak to anyone in the family, and no one was allowed to speak to me. it’s a weird kind of punishment. there was so much more.

@Armistead_MacSkye 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you are taking good care of yourself, you're a survivor.

@SipLeila Жыл бұрын

That can happen in any family. Don't blame religion.

@HomeFrendsten Жыл бұрын

All survivors belong to one community

@kazbah1217 Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing you were ex-communicated by the Jehovah Witness church??? You are better off now.

@nickxenix Жыл бұрын

@@SipLeila Religion is an excuse for the "pastor" in this case. "I'm rasing you just like the bible told me to."

@kornfan777 3 жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for her. You can just hear the emotional and mental trauma from her voice and it gives me shivers.

@shandijackson3483 2 жыл бұрын

The Luna series books are similar. I wonder if the author (Australian) was inspired by this story.

@jamn-ac434 3 жыл бұрын

She has the brightest smile, but also has the saddest eyes

@Pseldonymov 3 жыл бұрын

That's the 1st thing I noticed. It would be better if she was not smiling at all rather than showing this fake smile.

@sabeur195 3 жыл бұрын

thats totally right

@scoobydid4824 3 жыл бұрын

i thought something seemed a bit off

@coolgamerjaw8803 3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@ynsemrclk6748 3 жыл бұрын

OW MY GOD WHAT A BEAUTIFUL LINE! YOUR IQ I GUESS 50000000000000000000000000 OR MAYBE 50000000000195221491239139129391239 WEE NEED WRITERS LIKE YOU! OMG I DONT BELIEVE IT ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE WOW :O :o

@jaredbrusseau 5 жыл бұрын

14:21 - To the woman in the bottom right corner offering a tissue. You're what's right with the world. One small act of compassion.

@caitlin5644 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was super nice of her 🥺

@paulmouriski51 4 жыл бұрын

Giving someone a tissue is telling them its not ok to cry. Let the person cry blow snot out their nose and everything else in between. Crying has a purpose don't tell someone not to cry.

@Noah-vp7no 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulmouriski51 Giving someone a tissue is helping them wipe the snot and tears off their face. That doesn't at all mean they're telling them it's not okay to cry, if anything it's telling them that it is okay to cry, and simply helping them clean up. That woman had pure intentions offering her a tissue, don't twist it into something it's not.

@swefress 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulmouriski51 Wtf, how do you interpret it like that?

@bolting852 4 жыл бұрын

@@paulmouriski51 That doesn't make sense at all

@princessbanana4625 3 жыл бұрын

So sad to grow up thinking ur only purpose is to get married and reproduce.

@ishouldbestudyingrightnow5368 3 жыл бұрын

Im from Indonesia and thats how life is over here

@Zhuiox 2 жыл бұрын

@@ishouldbestudyingrightnow5368 yea, it's sad tbh. My best friend once said "actually we don't really have to study, we're going to end up cleaning and cooking right?" It broke my heart, but i was annoyed at the same time.

@thorstenheinke1705 2 жыл бұрын

Well, technically it is just reproducing, marriage is optional.

@princessbanana4625 2 жыл бұрын

@@thorstenheinke1705 Technically it's not as we have a choice and there's no need for everyone to have children these days. As far as biology goes yes we are physically capable of reproduction but there's no law in nature that dictates what you are and are not supposed to do it's just what's possible.

@thorstenheinke1705 2 жыл бұрын

@@princessbanana4625 Whatevever floats your boat.

@fravineas 3 жыл бұрын

her skin is so beautiful

@dhruvavikas1632 3 жыл бұрын

looks like a glazed donut

@HospitalForSouls.X 3 жыл бұрын

@@dhruvavikas1632 One day you'll realize the value of saying nice things about people instead of ravaging every comment section and leaving skid marks everywhere with your insecurity. In fact I pray that you open your heart and see the truth, that every insult is actually subconsciously reflected back onto you.

@abaddon2148 3 жыл бұрын

@@HospitalForSouls.X damn, eloquent burn

@mystikal__4735 3 жыл бұрын

@@abaddon2148 it's a copy and paste btw.

@abaddon2148 3 жыл бұрын

@@mystikal__4735 Ok 👍

@ciniky 4 жыл бұрын

Is no one gonna talk about how her teacher predicted she would be a great leader in the future Edit: Guys ik the teacher didn't actually predict that but I thought it'd be fun to point out

@pumpkinwooog 4 жыл бұрын

Nice amount of comments

@Someone-px2og 4 жыл бұрын

Yes please

@Witchofthewoods. 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, her teacher was 💯 right! She's amazing.

@MyYoyoyoyoyo12345 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, she commented on it herself which was the main point of her closing statements.

@wasd____ 4 жыл бұрын

No, because the thing is, prophecy is easy. You can just predict _everyone_ will be "a great leader" or whatever. For all the people who don't turn out that way, your prediction will be forgotten or they'll blame themselves for not living up to expectations or whatever, so all the times you were wrong won't come up. But the one time you happen to be right, suddenly, BAM, you're a prophet because you "predicted the future."

@priscillam4392 3 жыл бұрын

Who else didn’t search for this but you watched the whole thing

@jesusfamilyandavocados5801 3 жыл бұрын

Priscilla m 😂 Me!

@LauraElisa2 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha me

@Poseidon-oz9pg 3 жыл бұрын

Lol that happens to every video why is everyone so shocked? Idk about you but 99% of videos I didnt search for

@priscillam4392 3 жыл бұрын

Nathan Harrison it’s just a comment bro

@Poseidon-oz9pg 3 жыл бұрын

@@priscillam4392 it just kinda made me annoyed because the comment is super unoriginal AND unrealistic

@enough2715 2 жыл бұрын

Her describing the report card stuff was insane. It was like she was six years old again, was so easily able make the audience feel the shame she felt. Really heartbreaking.

@Misbahmulla Жыл бұрын

"Love for others broke the chains that shackled me." WHAT A STRONG, BEAUTIFUL WOMAN!

@joannmossa5509 3 жыл бұрын

"We don't want women like you" comment from her grandfather beginning at age 6, just because she showed strong grades and leadership in the classroom.

@Aaron-xv5qt 3 жыл бұрын

that is pretty fricked up.

@Aaron-xv5qt 3 жыл бұрын

@Cardboard Cape Why?

@Aaron-xv5qt 3 жыл бұрын

@Cardboard Cape How old are you may I ask?

@Aaron-xv5qt 3 жыл бұрын

@Cardboard Cape I asked that because you are exhibiting troglodyte like behaviour. I am just gonna assume you are just an internet troll.

@camistar3468 3 жыл бұрын

@Cardboard Cape Are you a man?

@Gamergrrl99 4 жыл бұрын

It makes me violently sick and angry to know that people treat children this way.

@BreezeeGreenz 4 жыл бұрын

You haven't heard about 'satanic ritual abuse' and 'MK Ultra' yet then. Google them. They're the worst kind of child abuse that began many years ago (thousands of years ago), were discovered operating within the CIA and in America, and continue to happen in our very modern and post-modern age.

@williamlevy6964 4 жыл бұрын

Don't bother. They're lost goats. Zombies who will never listen nor learn.

@yourdad6928 4 жыл бұрын

Izlandia yeah... especially when she talked about the welts on the child’s back...

@OfftoShambala 4 жыл бұрын

If you are in the USA, you might really get sick reading about the FLDS I one of the many biographies written by women who escaped.. flora jessop’s book might be a good one to start with. Although there are a lot of interviews on KZfaq.. but they barely touch the severity of the degree of systemic abuse going on. I grew up south of the main camp of the flds on border of AZ and Utah... I heard horrible stories growing up in the eighties, thinking they were exaggerated ... but no the stories were real and worse.

@calliem872 4 жыл бұрын

My parents punished me and my siblings this way.

@zoenightshade3053 3 жыл бұрын

The Bible says "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Most people take that to mean "Don't be selfish," but it works both ways. You should love your neighbor, but you should also love yourself, which the people at Gloriavale seem to have conveniently forgotten.

@shareenm.diengdoh7274 3 жыл бұрын

and it may also means that u cannot love others unless u love urself first

@saucevc8353 2 жыл бұрын

They clearly don't love anyone, given how they treat others.

@hangedtexnik 2 жыл бұрын

Also bible says what you should do with people who don't believe in your god, "...Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 25)

@oceanbluetv4007 2 жыл бұрын

@@hangedtexnik stop taking the bible out of context will you?

@hangedtexnik 2 жыл бұрын

@@oceanbluetv4007 In what context asking to kill and enslave people is good. Please explain me.

@bethdejuan8909 2 жыл бұрын

Wow...I remembered my young self when I was 10 yrs old. My parents were converted into a cult. I felt sad and crying while I was watching this talk. My parents died penniless, because they gave their money as donations to the cult, as promised by the leaders that when they died they go to heaven.

@zarahotaru2266 2 жыл бұрын

Was it a remade heavens gate cult?

@zarahotaru2266 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry if you don't want to answer that it's fine 😅

@caleboop1814 4 жыл бұрын

that moment when she said ‘I could finally fulfil my purpose’ after getting her first period.. damn....

@Melon-fo5rs 4 жыл бұрын

Ik it kinda freaked me out

@HN-kr1nf 4 жыл бұрын

makes women sound like cattle

@wickednwyld 4 жыл бұрын

@@HN-kr1nf - Which is exactly how they are usually treated in religious cults.

@someBody-bp1vc 4 жыл бұрын

@@wickednwyld religion in general.

@StudlyFudd13 4 жыл бұрын

@@someBody-bp1vc There was a time where I would've disagreed with you, while being quite offended at the same time. But when I told my own mother that I didn't want to have kids nor be married she said to me, "God made you to make babies, that is your only and true purpose. Everything else is a hobby." I thought my church was different, my house was different, I was wrong. Now the don't hold me back with violence, but with the fear that I will never speak to them again, which I am slowly becoming more and more okay with. I don't need them at the end of the day. I need a life.

@ilikedogs1022 4 жыл бұрын

My heart dropped when she said “we don’t want women like you”

@Jewelslia 4 жыл бұрын

I like dogs omg sammee how tf can u even say that to someone

@Someone-do6zm 4 жыл бұрын

She legit said "my heart dropped" after she said that

@minervamcgonagall7410 4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@avocado3-in-182 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, she’s only 6 at that time. A literal child, ffs. Imagine telling a child that they’re worthless already, just because they did something different. So much narcissism in this case.

@g.d.tharanga3712 3 жыл бұрын

Mine too...

@sophiabaudelie5738 2 жыл бұрын

Can we all appreciate how beautifully expressive her eyes are? It’s making me feel all the emotions she went through.

@justahuman8153 2 жыл бұрын

'And my grandfather was terrified of strong women'. Yeah that explains everything.

@pearlchinasa1770 3 жыл бұрын

Girl:*is emotional when talking about abuse* People:Liar Girl:*isnt emotional when talking about abuse* People:Liar

@andrewbarrett1537 3 жыл бұрын

I notice how quickly the presumed psychopaths out themselves on the comments on here by trying to shame her about her 'acting' and about any making money off of this. It's pretty typical (their self-projecting, I mean). Obviously they have no idea what she was going through, or maybe some of them do but are trying to cast doubt upon her. It only works with people who don't already know about their methods.

@rosedonna3946 3 жыл бұрын

They just hate women😂

@priscillabaydu7522 3 жыл бұрын

Its almost like they don't want to believe women🤔

@pearlchinasa1770 3 жыл бұрын

Priscilla Smikle almost 🤔

@cryptfire3158 3 жыл бұрын

Is emotion fake? These are not things to judge from the exterior, because emotion is connected to the core of who someone is and what they believe. That's like judging a book by it's cover. I once knew a young girl who had exaggerated behavior, and i wondered in my mind if she was just putting on a show. Over time i realized it's not something that she just turns on and turns off, but rather it's just simply the way she is.

@georgiesweasey3224 3 жыл бұрын

POV: You didn’t search this up, but you watched the *whole, entire, thing*

@onionman9563 3 жыл бұрын

I never search these up but I need my faith in humanity restored and a boost of self confidence

@breab379 3 жыл бұрын

This is probably the 4th or 5th time this has come up on my recommended. I've watched the entire thing each time

@madamebluebell4597 2 жыл бұрын

7 times for me

@ZubairAli-xn8ge 2 жыл бұрын

YES

@TheSimonFamilyy 2 жыл бұрын

I searched this up

@hillaryh.2028 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that did not feel like 20 minutes. She has amazing storytelling abilities, I was completely immersed.

@angeldream1 3 жыл бұрын

I love how someone tried to offer a tissue around 14:00 how sweet. I wish she didn’t feel she had to say excuse me for crying. I love her.

@alexlieber997 4 жыл бұрын

the fact that having kids was her sole "purpose" and thats all she wanted says a lot about the community she grew up in

@wickednwyld 4 жыл бұрын

Check out the documentaries on the various polygamous groups in the US, like the FLDS. They are every bit as bad, and many are worse.

@andyrevan 4 жыл бұрын

That's what every religious woman believes

@Undomaranel 4 жыл бұрын

@@andyrevan No. Many religious women believe that bearing and raising children is part of their purpose, but not their end all/ be all. They support each other in their beliefs because that's woman's nature regardless of creed.

@jarjardaze2485 4 жыл бұрын

Revan Harper no i dont lmao who told you that

@zoemckenzie7310 4 жыл бұрын

Revan Harper I know woman who are religious and don’t want children or marriage

@bryanl.morrison552 5 жыл бұрын

"They messed up when they mistreated the people I love. " Powerful, you are a courageous woman.

@shtv7892 5 жыл бұрын

so shes more courageous than the average woman. what does your mother do then? nothing?

@nicholasharvey4393 5 жыл бұрын

SHTV 7 Are you gatekeeping courage?

@hellookay2957 5 жыл бұрын

SHTV 7 Are you kidding me? Never once did this person say more than the average woman. And even if they did, it’s pretty true when you compare her courage because most women don’t escape cults.

@elytringaming 4 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasharvey4393 that'd the next level of gatekeeping

@anandsuralkar2947 4 жыл бұрын

True

@llianneolivoreyes 2 жыл бұрын

She needs to be a writer, narrator and speaker. I love her voice and delivery. It makes you feel everything.

@diva6148 2 жыл бұрын

This woman.. That 6 year old? Amazing. The woman she is now? exemplifies coming from a long line of terrifying women. Not in a traditional sense. I'll explain. Terrifying in the sense of she realized her worth, stood up for it and won the battle. May she be an inspiration for women everywhere.

@hamedhosseini4938 3 жыл бұрын

it's honestly disappointing cults like this are still not considered illegal by law.

@ivyrose779 3 жыл бұрын

Slippery slope. Where’s the line between religion and cult? There are tons of evangelical homes in the US who treat their children very similarly to what she described.

@lvega5606 3 жыл бұрын

@@ivyrose779 because they're all cults too. Every religion is just that...a cult. Books full of nonsense that people are supposed to believe.

@naomiabu8021 3 жыл бұрын

L Vega religions aren’t a cult

@_dont_mind_me 3 жыл бұрын

naomi abu a cult is literally defined as “a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object”. That’s also what a religion is. Just cause it’s widespread and accepted doesn’t stop it from being a cult.

@_dont_mind_me 3 жыл бұрын

Ragnar Sims I typed “definition of a cult” into google and that’s what came up, and that’s from oxford languages. I never said it was a bad thing, only that religions are cults whether they’re widespread and peaceful or small and extreme. When you look at the origin of the word, it meant things like worship which is a very important and respected aspect of religion. Nowadays a cult is typically used in reference to negative examples, and common religions try to avoid the word in order to maintain their reputation. But as a word it isn’t positive or negative, it only references devotion towards a figure or object - that’s what a religion is, just as much as a typical ‘cult’.

@julietmooketsi6746 4 жыл бұрын

I'm in tears right now. That "we don't want women like you" hit harder than anything.

@SurelyYewJest 4 жыл бұрын

Ya, that was astounding. And you can guarantee that he didn't hesitate or mumble words for a second in saying that to her. The only solace we the viewers can take is that she was able to muster enough psychological strength to say enough and get the F out. But imagine the many more who don't...

@dalenelson7161 4 жыл бұрын

Your not kidding what a change of emotion. Just can't believe that people like her gramps exist.

@stellaeliserose4700 4 жыл бұрын

i started crying as well

@kazimirror8042 4 жыл бұрын

Would like but it’s at 666 likes

@roderrickgaming9949 4 жыл бұрын

Very relatable... :(

@gabriellaschwartz3884 3 жыл бұрын

wow they should make a movie about her life, even imagining this experience is insane. I cant even imagine how this felt for her

@habeebasulthana3128 2 жыл бұрын

try watching kdrama called save me.. its about a religious cult and the show is absolutely amazing n horrific

@Catmartinez 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my most favorite TED talks ever and her radiant courage is so raw and inspiring

@MrWildFire9 4 жыл бұрын

That took a turn at the school report I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT

@RainbowBodyWisdom 4 жыл бұрын

Right

@arrow5726 4 жыл бұрын

She was not expecting that either. You can only try to imagine the trauma it caused

@MariahBunni 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah same. I was multitasking and then I saw her face change and I had to rewind to see if I heard correctly lol

@queenqueen594 4 жыл бұрын

Me neither I was shocked

@carringtonparks7761 4 жыл бұрын

me too

@scarlettrose2885 4 жыл бұрын

Grandfather: “We don’t want women like you!” Translation: We don’t want women like you to challenge our frail egos! 🤦‍♀️

@LNVACVAC 4 жыл бұрын

Social order is ALWAYS exclusory and opressive.

@bryantparadine641 4 жыл бұрын

Charles Bechert no it’s egos not a way of life

@christinemott2878 4 жыл бұрын

Teeney weenie

@treasuretvjackson8018 4 жыл бұрын

Well, really, it's "We don't want you to steal our place in leadership!"

@someinternetperson1156 4 жыл бұрын

Charles Bechert it’s not way of life it’s eggos

@LuggageLife 2 жыл бұрын

"Love for others broke the chains that shackled me." 🥺 ❤ this talk always has me in tears.

@Jitendrakotai 3 жыл бұрын

She indeed has leadership qualities.

@elliecox3960 3 жыл бұрын

On her report card it said that her leadership skills could come in handy once she gotten older. Turns out that it did.

@wings8099 3 жыл бұрын

her teacher turned out to be a psychic!

@possumffeet5422 3 жыл бұрын

Broskis, She’s not faking, she’s not bipolar. She’s speaking about a traumatic experience. She’s feeling real emotions. That’s like saying when someone’s happy and laughing then get offended they have a medical condition. It’s not how that works. Haha

@ceinwenchandler4716 3 жыл бұрын

No one feels the need to defend the speaker when they're talking about something funny and laughing so hard they can barely force two words out at once. . . why is this any different?

@lexilee2729 3 жыл бұрын

@@ceinwenchandler4716 I think you answered your own question. Because context matters.

@arinavandam9028 3 жыл бұрын

Its so hard to see that some people use god to treat others so cruel... this still happend know...

@ceinwenchandler4716 3 жыл бұрын

@@arinavandam9028 Why do people ever do things like those cult leaders did? What on earth could possibly motivate them? Also, why weren't they arrested for child abuse?

@FRIENDLYROZI 3 жыл бұрын

agreed, as she recalls her memories, different emotions get triggered.

@sophieisabella Жыл бұрын

She’s an amazing storyteller.

@neognostics 8 ай бұрын

I was born and raised in a cult and lost my entire family because of it. More recently a partner to a well known very aggressive cult 😢 the hardest thing I’ve ever been through. The damage from cults won’t ever fully heal it’s something you carry for life 😢

@Senthamara.i 6 ай бұрын

Y do you keep that name

@flyroket 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you TEDx for letting her talk an extra five minutes

@iiromutanen5719 4 жыл бұрын

True!

@yovannastarcard6901 4 жыл бұрын

Tbh, I wish her all the best. But she didn’t really defend her point properly. the abuse she witness wasn’t because she was in a ‘religious cult’. She was in the wrong one with the wrong people. I want her to understand that it’s not that Christianity teaches that but the ones in control of these children hold the power and use it in a wrong way.

@thalanoth 4 жыл бұрын

@@yovannastarcard6901 spoken like an indoctrinated cultist ;)

@XX-121 4 жыл бұрын

do you like soy?

@dupeegames5037 4 жыл бұрын

yovanna starcard that’s a yikes... normal churches are so close to cults it’s scary

@hannagaredew5680 4 жыл бұрын

I just want everyone who see's this kind of stuff to know. Churches are not always Christian, and leaving a Church is not always leaving God.

@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын

And why are there flaws at all? And in heaven?

@vanitas7441 4 жыл бұрын

chris sonofpear1 because humans are flawed. The Church is run by people who can fall into sin just like anyone else. And sometimes you get places like this who do not follow God and are nothing but hypocrites hiding behind Christianity. If you mean how original sin came to be, you should look up the story of Adam and Eve. I’m sure that’s not what you mean though. Oh, and I would like it if you would elaborate on the supposed flaws in heaven.

@vanitas7441 4 жыл бұрын

hanna garedew this is very important! Very underrated comment!!

@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, does not some form of supervision from above get involved?

@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын

Also, did Eve KNOW that Satan existed, and could reach Earth? Plus of the stakes to more than her and Adam, before she met the snake?

@millybell5858 2 жыл бұрын

she is so brave and inspirational. the fact that she is still strong after all this time makes me want to cry. well done lilia. the world needs more people like you

@DrNas-mo5ss 2 жыл бұрын

I'm very proud of this girl. Don't let anyone step over your self-respect. Live your life well and don't look back.

@bellycurious 4 жыл бұрын

Well... Her school teacher was right, she has leadership skills. And she's using it! I'm glad she left that cult.

@6StimuL84 4 жыл бұрын

You think the STATE and CROWN are not cults?

@bellycurious 4 жыл бұрын

@@6StimuL84 it's depends of the crown and the state.

@woohooo7634 4 жыл бұрын

@# ....uh

@tashajoykin5192 4 жыл бұрын

@# no

@woohooo7634 4 жыл бұрын

@# That's not true, a cult is when you are tricked by charisma into following a human being to do unhealthy things. That is not Christianity at all. Instead of spreading hate, keep your ideas to yourself. You are helping nobody.

@NLTops 4 жыл бұрын

KZfaq is recommending the wildest TED talks to me lately. I dig it.

@anjuxavier143 4 жыл бұрын

Same here

@HyperNova120 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@melissamcnamee7670 4 жыл бұрын

Literally the same!!! 😂

@NLTops 4 жыл бұрын

810 people are in the same boat. It's officially a party. 🥳🎊🥳 🎉🥳🎉 🥳🎊 🥳

@nixnihili 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@ravenpoe689 2 жыл бұрын

I am just breaking free from all the cult brainwashing that I received most of my life. My spiritual abuse caused me to develop PTSD. She is so brave to share her story. Healing takes time.

@user-xu2ps9oo5n 2 жыл бұрын

she's not faking it. she's just an amazing story teller. the way she goes from happy memories, to traumatic ones... she's really good.

@This_user_has_died 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not even Christian and I’m embarrassed and disgusted by the people who called this Christianity. Don’t insult Christianity like that.

@Wargasmo 3 жыл бұрын

That's an inherent problem with religion to me, though. The way they interpreted the scripture, and the verses they chose to exemplify means...this is absolutely Christianity. That's why you see hundreds, if not thousands, of denominations of Christianity; none less valid than any other.

@theanonymouslegion4811 3 жыл бұрын

@@Wargasmo exactly

@beamerz9398 3 жыл бұрын

facts

@whateva12345 3 жыл бұрын

Well said, its easy for people to talk anything especially about christianity

@daze.png_ 3 жыл бұрын

agreed, I'm not christian either but I think it should be common morals to respect religions. (If anyone's wondering I'm a muslim)

@ninithemiffy 4 жыл бұрын

Why are people saying she’s fake crying? It’s hard to talk about trauma and the fact she is up there saying it confidently is amazing she is so strong. Respect her for that

@amyrani7960 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I can recall such events on a stage- front of a crowd

@moupurii6519 3 жыл бұрын

Amy Rani she’s at a Ted Talk. Of course, the speakers at these events have to prepare what they’re going to talk about, but most of it is from her mind too. It’s easier to talk about your experiences than facts. But the fact that she recalls this memory so vividly shows that it really pierced her memories. It was a very significant thing that happened to her.

@gvx64 3 жыл бұрын

The story just isn't believable. If you grew up in a society where beltings and beatings are the norm, you wouldn't become disillusioned or deeply offended by it as a child because everybody around you accepts it as normal. You wouldn't even see it as being wrong if you were born and raised in such a culture. You only get outraged by this if you are already a part of western culture and are looking in at the society from the outside, which is precisely the audience that this talk has been geared towards.

@crookiemoon3547 3 жыл бұрын

Graeme AV you do realize that people can think for themselves right? That’s why white supremisists think their right.

@crookiemoon3547 3 жыл бұрын

Graeme AV I grew up in a house where my dad constantly yelled at my mom as a literal toddler I knew it was wrong. You don’t wed to be in the western world or know another way to know something is wrong

@theologytherapist Жыл бұрын

Her journey to breaking free is inspiring! I took the liberty of reading a few comments and people are asking alot of questions - YES! That is what we need! For more and more people to be informed on cults and the fact that they may not be what you thought they were. Movies depict cults a certain way, and at times, some are not similar to those. They each paint a picture differently.

@mariannakatsillis4503 Жыл бұрын

She is a strong woman that was made through all the abuse she has been through. She is allowed to cry and she is definitely not faking it. The fact that she can recall some happy memories to me shows a very kind human. ❣️

@meredithschultz1124 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that this cult uses the name Christian disgusts me. That's not Christianity.

@jacob7270 3 жыл бұрын

The worst part is that this *is* Christianity. Just a different version of it. Even the mainstream Christian sects have people who act, or used to act like this.

@xahsinor4364 3 жыл бұрын

@@jacob7270 they were fake Christians though

@sciencemanguy 3 жыл бұрын

@@xahsinor4364 That's the issue with religions. Anyone who doesn't act similar to the way you want is no longer part of the religious system. ISIS, Al-Queda, and all are considered to be "Islamic" by the west but "not true Muslims" in the Middle East. So let's clear up definitions here. If you believe that Jesus was the final prophet of the "God", along with following the bible, you are a Christian. Otherwise, you are not Christian. Doesn't matter if you stone people to death for homosexuality or not, if you can justify it with the Bible and you believe in Jesus as a prophet, then you are Christian. Else, no.

@RetRo0._.jebE06 3 жыл бұрын

@@jacob7270 this isn’t Christianity, they just used the name like a label instead of lifestyle

@directlinkrexx4409 3 жыл бұрын

@@jacob7270 really? This is Christianity in your eyes and thoughts This isn't Christianity in the Bible Christ like Christianity is not like this

@YosiahW 4 жыл бұрын

This lady could be a model with her looks, a best-selling author with her storytelling, an icon to those in abusive relationships with her past, and an actress with her flair. That teacher was an oracle or a seer.

@pandacake3207 4 жыл бұрын

Wings of fire? I think not

@babysushi953 4 жыл бұрын

Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler a role model. She can be a role model. And a real model, she is gorgeous with her self confidence posture and stance. Don’t try to joke around but she is absolutely stunning.

@midi510 4 жыл бұрын

An oracle or seer? How about just observant, as a teacher should be.

@petermetcalfe5280 4 жыл бұрын

The teacher was not a seer; she just saw certain qualities in her.

@nostradamus925 4 жыл бұрын

lol, simp

@ayisaaa7949 2 жыл бұрын

This is heartbreaking. These people should be ashamed to call themselves 'Christian'. I hate the things these types of cults do, and I hate they stereotypes they are creating against real Christians. She is so brave for telling her story! I hope this encourages other victims to come forward and encourages governments all over the world to make cults illegal.

@sofvpgn 2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@virginiemasai9024 10 ай бұрын

These are monsters!

@RuthMontouri 2 ай бұрын

I learned at an early age not to trust the word "Christian." There are too many people, too many institutions hiding behind that word. Lilia's story is an extreme example, but there are so many people who wear the label like it gives them some kind of automatic validity, and a free pass to impose their personal choices on others. It's not a CV, not a license. Just do it, and stick to the basics please. That should keep you busy enough that you don't have time to talk about it.

@elishamalisha 3 жыл бұрын

"My love for others broke my shackles" totally relate to this! Thank you

@awkwardjellyfish4349 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that this is actually a real life story and this cult is actually a thing is so terrifying

@moirawhite6960 3 жыл бұрын

Millions of us Live through these traumas everyday in homes without the cult title.

@Jameshartshorne 3 жыл бұрын

It still is a thing

@angelicamihai9852 3 жыл бұрын

@?? Context, please

@Lynthari 3 жыл бұрын

It is actually still kinda a thing if you think about it.

@ryanpenis107 3 жыл бұрын

@@moirawhite6960 I’m too hip

@xielo142 6 жыл бұрын

To go from being humiliated in front of a room of 500 people to be applauded by an entire audience... wow. So much respect for her

@karisaysthings 6 жыл бұрын

Being constantly humiliated at such a young age can really make a huge dent on a person's ego for the rest of their life. But she overcame it. Truly an inspiring video that highlights the importance of loving yourself and believing in yourself.

@phannypack3951 6 жыл бұрын

angelica garcia lmao. So someone said somethiing to her and she was humiliated.

@karisaysthings 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, of course. Imagine someone calling you out in front of all your peers, berating you, talking down on you for not getting a good grade in class or not doing a good job at work. How would you feel? Not only did that happen to Lilia but she even said that her grandpa consistently remind her everyday how horrible she is. It's even worse for her because she actually didn't do anything wrong.

@miles6283 6 жыл бұрын

You got 2k likes. Just letting you know my dude

@xielo142 6 жыл бұрын

I forgot I had even commented on this video lol

@Healingfromtheroot 2 жыл бұрын

This is very similar to my experience in a cult Christian family. I’m so so sorry. Thank you for telling your story ❤️ my womb space started hurting while you spoke. Sending you healing!

@thepillmarillion5918 2 жыл бұрын

It's heartening to see people sharing their stories and building up a community, bless you.

@barbarad4569 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much amazing Lilia for sharing this authentic/pure, deeply heartfelt, soul-igniting, encouraging, uplifting, empowering, and inspiring message that made me cry.

@MyFirstBitcoin 5 жыл бұрын

there's enough here for a Netflix mini-series

@Stillchannel22 5 жыл бұрын

There is actually a show on gloriavale in nz.

@WhatsaTsurt 5 жыл бұрын

If you wanted to see a movie similar to this, you should check out "Sweet Mud" its an Israeli film about the Kabuts, which were essentially a cult.

@Sleeepy. 5 жыл бұрын

Kimmy Schmidt: Unbreakable

@panictreasurenottrash1684 5 жыл бұрын

Chase Anthony Brewer yeah but it doesn’t show her in a cult it shows her when she’s out of one

@jodiandevan 5 жыл бұрын

Check out Wild, Wild Country on Netflix for a really crazy cult documentary

@sologrey1288 5 жыл бұрын

14:20 that person trying to hand her the tissue has a good soul

@smittywee8277 5 жыл бұрын

No you didn't. You wanted to. You didn't have to do anything. She did. She had to endure years of pain. Suffering.

@smittywee8277 5 жыл бұрын

This was a joke too. Tried to make you feel bad huehue

@billieeyelashhh4613 5 жыл бұрын

I thought that I was the only one who noticed that.

@thedamhufflepuff3942 5 жыл бұрын

Cheernastic Star respect to them

@xKaiVibes 5 жыл бұрын

Cheernastic Star I checked the comments right at 14:00

@TaraCarmelina 3 жыл бұрын

If this was a man then NO ONE would call her an attention seeker, or dramatic for her emotions.

@45_hello 2 жыл бұрын

If you don't have proper information then don't comment.If you don't know that ther is a stereotype that "men don't cry" and if she was a men in this story she whould get even more hate and no one is even saying she is a attention seeker or a dramatic for her emotions.

@TaraCarmelina 2 жыл бұрын

@@45_hello men don’t cry, and women are dramatic are two different stereotypes that aren’t mutually exclusive. You know what I’m saying is correct. And just because you didn’t see the comments doesn’t mean they don’t exist

@manwhoismissingtwotoenails4777 2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame that these cults are legal by law and protected.

@wascallywabbit3372 4 жыл бұрын

People can sense when things are wrong even when being told their whole lives it's right.

@ifeanyiwordsworth8354 4 жыл бұрын

I concur, queen

@timsamuel4723 4 жыл бұрын

It's called empathy

@wascallywabbit3372 4 жыл бұрын

@@timsamuel4723 more like intuition

@user-sq2jq9ec9q 4 жыл бұрын

God does a powerful thing with intuition and generally our minds. I'm Christian Orthodox and this sounds like Chatolic chruch which is just satanistic cult with Christian surface

@flair6527 4 жыл бұрын

Wascally Wabbit, hopefully

@malloryscherff2299 5 жыл бұрын

that “F- - - THEM” gave me absolute shivers. so powerful

@brittasbaggel.1036 4 жыл бұрын

What time?

@user-jv5xv6gj3e 4 жыл бұрын

@@brittasbaggel.1036 13:39

@Yukkuri_Yakumo 4 жыл бұрын

Same.

@queenraiok91 4 жыл бұрын

(When really it says it's a church in the back ground)

@anandsuralkar2947 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@skfineshriber 2 жыл бұрын

Very moving talk. I'm so glad she followed her humane instincts instead of the teachings of these monstrous hypocrites. No religion is true.

@rebeccarayburn3312 2 жыл бұрын

Former cult member here - no surprise at all that women are devalued in Christian religious cults. We were told we 'must pay for the sins of Eve'. Women in the cult I left ended up to be slaves/baby makers or they left. So glad I had the courage to leave.

@howtfamisupposedtoknow9759 2 жыл бұрын

Im proud of you!

@izzytepe 3 жыл бұрын

As a Christian, I don't know why cults like these think that God would approve of this. Edit: The replies to this comment are... insane?

@Hollow_Theorist 3 жыл бұрын

?? It seems you don't know about the new covenant, Christ or Yeshua as he should be called teachings override Old Testament teachings meaning they become invalid, to be a Christian is as simple as upholding the four canonical gospels but reality is far more cruel knowing there are over 30 gospels.

@izzytepe 3 жыл бұрын

@?? I'm a non-denominational Christian, which means that I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, and that's it. That is all I need. I don't believe in the Old Testament, as it was LITERALLY written BEFORE Jesus was born.

@izzytepe 3 жыл бұрын

@?? ok?

@LadiJames1 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I said

@cydneyhunter5259 3 жыл бұрын

Isabelle Tepe same sister

@royalpillows7716 4 жыл бұрын

Nah but the story was actually going like: 📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈 Edit: So I saw many people liking my comment it is currently at 10K likes so I would like to thank my parents and my friends for shaping who I am today and thank them for the person I am now...And I would like to thank all of you as this wouldn’t have been possible without you...😔

@wewewewewewewewwewe 4 жыл бұрын

Lol true

@judahred 4 жыл бұрын

at around late 4 minutes i started going 🗿

@judahred 4 жыл бұрын

Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler bruv

@heidia1804 4 жыл бұрын

Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler oh look, it’s a demon

@saulbadman5164 4 жыл бұрын

@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler now that's what I call edgy

@alexandreamuckala5492 3 жыл бұрын

this was so insanely powerful and spoke wonders i had goosebumps the whole entire video

@turbrojewk9435 2 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful, beautiful individual. Her leadership skills and emotional intelligence = gold

@r.2018 5 жыл бұрын

“We don’t want women like you.” im glad im not the only one who lost it

@beep4340 5 жыл бұрын

We dont want women like you .... WE NEED WOMEN LIKE YOU!!!

@JujataX 5 жыл бұрын

@zeddayzedd this still wont change your fathers perception of who u are. U can be a girl and still does all the things that boys do. THe way your father threats u its just wrong and u should stand for ure self as a girl, not to change ureself so u can full-fill someone elses expectations.

@TheHadesShade 5 жыл бұрын

@zeddayzedd Are there any teachers, family, friends or public child protection services around that can help? The fact that your father is so... well hateful of who you are can be used to get you outplaced from the family. A scary and big step but maybe the best for your mental health. Also, what does your mother think of all this? Or is your father a control freak? What about your 3 brothers? Maybe you can convince them to step up against your dead, create a bigger front against him. Good luck! :) Stay strong!

@TheHadesShade 5 жыл бұрын

@zeddayzedd mh, i get that is a problem then, but doing nothing, seeking no help and allies at all won't change your sitiation. I know it easier said than done but even if it's by googling some local support group/organisation you will feel better in doing that.

@AWlpsSHOW36 5 жыл бұрын

@@beep4340 Yaaaaasssssss!!

@bryn1906 5 жыл бұрын

Damn sis your skin is GLOWING

@wafafathi20101 4 жыл бұрын

It's called makeup

@camilafigueroa4188 4 жыл бұрын

YaSss (good way)

@isata7246 4 жыл бұрын

wafafathi20101 well she has some pretty damn good makeup

@jonsellas 4 жыл бұрын

She is a beautiful woman

@bryn1906 4 жыл бұрын

FussyDo Flamenco she really is pretty, isn’t she? Also thank you! I feel like being more positive to other women makes me feel a whole lot better :) I mean I’m not always positive, but I’m trying, ya know?

@sarahelizabeth7638 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO! It is an amazing story and I am so thankful for you and all that you stand for.

@hadlierose 2 жыл бұрын

Her story was gorgeous and heartbreaking, what a good storyteller and such a strong person for being able to survive this.

@arianatwiss4600 3 жыл бұрын

Y'all,,, she's not faking. The first 18 years of her life were spent being gaslit. I cannot even begin to express the effect that has on you. You seperate your memories and doubt what you know, develop subconscious coping mechanisms and become very, very good at compartmentalizing, but often have no idea. When you're thinking about the good things, that's all you feel. When you start talking about the bad things, the extent of the negative emotions is startling, because they're usually locked away. This is real, it's not an attention grab.

@Rumpl4Skyn 3 жыл бұрын

Its true. I was the cult.

@user-ze8fr9wq1t 3 жыл бұрын

@K - Dot yes, but to educate about the reality which we need to combat. not for fame or what ever else people think she can gain from this

@BeGlamourlicious 3 жыл бұрын

I know. I believe her 100%. I went to a Catholic school. The abuse was emotionally not physically. I still hate every nun.

@kendallpaisley512 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Those first years of your life are important because your brain is still developing so whatever you experience you take it to heart.

@count1572 3 жыл бұрын

@namelesscynic1616 5 жыл бұрын

Ironically, had this cult not used violence they would have lost no one - she was obviously happy to be there until they started punishments, both physical and psychological.

@sunshinemama2325 5 жыл бұрын

Had they not been violent and emotionally abusive, they wouldnt have been a cult, they would have been Christian's- if they held to the Bible alone.

@whimsy7503 4 жыл бұрын

also forced marriage

@sunshinemama2325 4 жыл бұрын

@@whimsy7503 YES! That too, I almost forgot she mentioned that.

@mplsridah 4 жыл бұрын

Are you praising a cult ? Wtf. I've never seen a youtube commenter with that npc pic that made sense

@mplsridah 4 жыл бұрын

But.. but I thought only Muslims force marriage?

@CyclingM1867 Жыл бұрын

What a powerful story! She's a very gifted speaker with an incredible story to share. I'm so glad that she and her parents and siblings were able to leave and that she's free to be her true self, the powerful leader she is.

@alaskanchick3057 4 жыл бұрын

How the heck could they call themselves Christians. That is NOT christianity. Its horrific that these things are out there and happening. Glad she got out of there.

@chrissonofpear1384 4 жыл бұрын

And what is Christianity? And how many versions are there now?

@doj8763 4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what christianity is, slavery, control, abuse, and hate. Christianity is a death cult.

@keithmc8654 4 жыл бұрын

She seemed like she was acting all through that. Anyone else?

@platzart_ 4 жыл бұрын

@@doj8763 Lol what? Tell me how you think any of that is correct. Christianity is just being faithful to god and loving everyone. And no, being faithful isn't a cult. Our duties as Christians is to be kind, loving, truthful, and forgiving. I don't remember being held against my will or being hit for doing something wrong. Idk what religion you experienced but its not Christianity. We aren't forced to marry, have children, go to church, etc. We are meant to do some of those things, because its a good thing to do. But we aren't beaten for it. Ive loved being a Christian. I feel loved and safe. I have made so many friends from the Christian church and I don't AT ALL feel trapped or scared. Its just something I live by. I go through life just like everyone else. So it confuses me when everyone thinks we are brainwashed, abused, freaks. Like calm down I'm a 20 yr old Christian who enjoys watching Netflix and sleeping in till 1

@randomperson-ey3lw 4 жыл бұрын

alaskan chick actually after all the changes that the bible have received by people that want to achieve their personal interest; it became like that. originally it’s a beautiful abrahamic religion. if u want to know what originally the bible says check on quran because this book is last one that our god sent down to earth also promised by god that it will maintain the original form .please don’t listen to media and what it says about islam..do your own research. much love (sorry about my english it’s my third language)

@TinaMarieJ 6 жыл бұрын

I can relate to her pain. I was in a religious cult for only 7 yrs which I make videos on now. She crying she has is from PTSD. Its not whiny or bratty, its the consequence of the abuse. My heart goes out to her

@Luubelaar 6 жыл бұрын

because the abuse is ingrained so deep that remembering it brings out really visceral reactions. Certain smells to this day will make me feel sick or make me start crying in fear. I wasn't in a cult, but I was abused.

@Lilly-pg9dd 6 жыл бұрын

Luubelaar im sorry for you!:/

@NoArtisticLimitation 6 жыл бұрын

I wonder if I have PTSD, reading this comment string... I (and many other students) was abused by my teachers. If you didn’t obey them you became the “bad” student, and “good” students were basically treated like they could do no wrong, even if they started it. (I remember being punished because I didn’t like someone’s music, and they were a “good student”, so the same song was played thrice... And that’s not even counting being stood down for defending myself from someone) Think Umbridge from Harry Potter. That was my teacher... I have panic attacks just watching the movie, and have to leave the room when she’s onscreen, and I’ve been out of the class for... holy heck, nine years now... Sorry just thinking aloud...

@MoiraMcCoy 6 жыл бұрын

Bless your soul ❤️

@sarahdanial2619 6 жыл бұрын

Tina Marie J. Subscribed right away

@vacafuega 2 жыл бұрын

After years of trying and failing, I found the strength to leave my abusive ex partner after I saw what he was doing to other women. I was so furious and so upset for them and that righteous anger was the fuel I needed to get out and build a new life.

@KiaraCarbajal 2 жыл бұрын

What a moving story! Thank you so much for sharing! ❤️

@Edith1517 5 жыл бұрын

This does not just happen in cults, it happens in many religious institutions. It is religious abuse. The greatest sin. To use the name and representation of God to give you a false authority to Lord over others and harm them is not only hypocrisy but a great offense to God who is the power of Love.

@nothing_much515 5 жыл бұрын

Mirtza Griffin couldn’t agree more

@caramel9154 5 жыл бұрын

um.. those are kinda cults too?..

@chrissiejames948 5 жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely x

@lindaglass2853 5 жыл бұрын

True

@Mykahl1 5 жыл бұрын

I realize I have some spelling errors and auto corrects gone wrong in there, but I’m sure my point was made *plentifully* without needing to be edited :p

@mariavaz7067 4 жыл бұрын

To the people who's commenting that this looks fake, the only parts that sounded too acted for me were when she was describing how she loved her life there. I think that she probably wanted to show to people her feelings of when she loved it, making them feel connected so that after it they understood how polarizing is emotional abuse and brainwash, but she probably can't think of that place as a happy one anymore, so it sounded fake everytime. Everytime she started crying and describing bad things, it just looked really genuine.

@jazwhoaskedforthis 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's probably hard to speak about the good memories when she knows how it ends

@hawaii5298 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Gloriavale has such a popular reputation so much controversies derived from there. A grand daughter of THE founder who runs this cult?? Imagine mentioning her name with her old members or "leaders" she once knew and they completely shunned her name.

@amarahsrabbitry1073 4 жыл бұрын

Maria Vaz exactly, why would someone fake this anyway

@Chyror 4 жыл бұрын

Ama Park agenda . everything with Women idolize i feel is a fake chess pieces for the saint Maria extremists.

@jazwhoaskedforthis 4 жыл бұрын

@@Chyror Wat

@felixnicolas4488 3 жыл бұрын

This made me feel sick, what a powerful speech. Bravo 👏🥲

@FERRARICWH69 2 жыл бұрын

I was raised in a cult in Vancouver Canada …. I rarely meet others who have been raised this way …. It’s quite isolating

@danielfan9196 4 жыл бұрын

My question is, why didn’t the people that fled the cult report the cult to the police of the outside world?

@caydensavage7650 4 жыл бұрын

They didn’t know it was a cult

@danielfan9196 4 жыл бұрын

/Issa and Larray \ maybe but if they fled they certainly fled for a reason, and would’ve known that they were fleeing from illegal stuff, so they should’ve reported it regardless of a cult or not

@sasham158 4 жыл бұрын

She said it wasn’t in the US so i’m guessing whatever country it’s in they don’t enforce these type of laws

@lucycoakley9593 4 жыл бұрын

saw sha it’s in New Zealand

@danielfan9196 4 жыл бұрын

saw sha oh that’s very sad