I would love your channel, except having to listen to the bean thing every three minutes if I have Trek clips on autoplay is why I'm blocking it. Seriously, why the f-ck would you think people would want to subject themselves to that?

@@vorshack8968 hahah sorry that you don't love beans pal, if you're autoplaying so much it sounds like you'd be better just watching full episodes of the show, to each his own I guess

@@tjwparso I LOVE BEANS !!

@@tjwparso Don't listen to that negative and entitled other pal. I'm glad you put this online. You have the right to crank the bean dial up if you're in that kind of thing. Whatever floats your boat. ; )

It's a seed that grows into signs of disagreement with the Union's aggressive military policies. Things like the Cardassian Dissident movement, and characters like Aamin Maritza and Natima Lang, in DS9 - and, eventually, the whole liberation-of-Cardassia plot in season 7, where the Cardies become the oppressed disenfranchised victims fighting for their freedom. This guy seems like someone like that, someone who's seen too much and had to follow orders he felt were wrong and can't stop thinking about them.

You must remember that in societies that are run by fascist authoritarian regimes like Cardassia, most of the common people ARE genuinely nice people. It's the regime that are bad people and even then, many of the lower ranking people who don't have much say in policy are likely still good people. At the end of WW2, there was a battle at a castle named Itter. It involved a small group of 14 Americans led by a Lieutenant Lee and a small group of 10 former German artillerymen led by a Wehrmacht officer named Gangel and a SS officer named Schrader defending the castle, which contained several French VIPs that had been held captive by the Nazi, from a couple hundred SS men. The only casualty on the Allied side was Major Gangel, who was killed by a sniper while moving former French Prime Minister Paul Reynard out of harm's way. He had seen the entirety of the war. From the weak French offensive into the Saar at the beginning of the war to the invasion of France to the invasion of Russia to the Normandy landings to the Ardennes offensive. All he needed to do to survive the war, which would end in two more days, was keep his head down. He did not. There was another occasion where some German veterinarians requested help from the Americans in evacuating some very important horses from the line of the Soviet advance since the Soviets had already killed the whole Royal Hungarian Lipizzaner collection during their "liberation" of Hungry. George Patton himself approved the mission but available troops were scarce. As the rescue would need to go through territory still held by Germans not party to the rescue and the fact that the number of horses needing saving outnumbered the number of men available for the rescue, numerous former Allied POWs were enlisted to help. Brits, French, Poles, Serbs, and New Zealanders. The Americans even gave arms to their Heer and Luftwaffe POWs. The operation was a success despite resistance from the SS and the task force got away with all horses just as the first T-34s rolled into sight. I hope my point has been made. Just because the regime is bad, does not by itself mean all, or even most, of those under the regime are bad as well.

@@randomlyentertaining8287 I DO remember it. There's many people answering these things that, however, don't seem to grasp that. The easy path in judging a people is to see the bad apples as representing the entire orchard.

I liked this cardasian too. Wish he showed up later.

yes

It's one of those fancy drinks that Guynan makes. They are hard for a child to swallow.

Exactly, Don 😂😂😂

Was LITERALLY thinking that

I would assume that the universal translator, which allows them to speak to one another in first place, would choose the closest equivalent so things like this don't often need to be explained.

@@szr8 Yes, but there is a possibility that cardassians wouldn't reflect much over killing a bug. Their society is pretty militaristic if I recall correctly.

i agree, this scene is great. he tells it like recalling a war story. that stare tells more of whats going on than his story tho

The Cardassians were what the writers tried to make the Ferengi. I'm glad they were able to make it work so well, and DS9 gave the Ferengi a second chance.

@@TheEDFLegacy agreed, glad it ended up the way it did

They changed the Cardassians' look over TNG and as DS9 opened ..... but their appearances in TNG really tell the story as to why what happened in DS9 happened.

It also sets miles as a main character in the franchise And made an entire generation aware of PTSD

I'll bet that's what he wanted from DS9; a lower risk backwater assignment with lots of stuff to fix.

@@westrim he just can't catch a break...

How messed up is your past when a post to the Enterprise D is peace and quiet?

@@rdkap42 In the episode "Rules of Engagement", it is revealed that during O'Brien's 22 years in Starfleet, he had fought in 235 separate battles and had been decorated by Starfleet on 15 occasions, and was considered to be an expert in starship combat. And then he went to the Enterprise D to operate a transporter. I would say pretty messed up.

Miles: "There you are.... I owe you an apology; I shouldn't have popped off at your aunt's funeral" Cardassian: "Why were you even invited to my family's funeral, human!?!"

@@kentonbaird1723" There you are... I owe you an apology; I shoulden't have popped off like that by your house" cardassian: "why are you following me!"

​@@kentonbaird1723 Miles: "There you are... i owe you an apology. I shouldnt have..." Cardassian: "NOW YOUR HERE ON DS9!!!"

Miles: "There you are.... I owe you an apology; I shouldn't have popped off at your medal ceremony for destroying the Death Star." Luke: "I think you're lost..."

He took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up in the wrong science fiction franchise.@@kentonbaird1723

Even after, the majority of Starfleet and Federation didn't have a grittier approach until Dominion War. Q was right, they were too lax. Romulans were the biggest threat but were too cautious to engage in all out war unless they knew they'd win at the start. Klingons had a big fleet but were allies. Cardassian ships toe-to-toe were no match for Galaxy or Nebula and even older New Orleans or Ambassador could go head-to-head. It seemed only much older like Excelsior and Constellation would have trouble. Yet instead of knocking the Cardassians in their place it was deemed better to let them have some planets.

If we trace back canon history, there seems to have been a huge stagnation period after the post-Kirk retirement era of the Klingon easing of relations. It also seems aligned to the period where the Romulans had entered into some kind of peaceful status with the Federation, then went into decades of seclusion. Space pirates such as the Orions were contained, and other once-fearful adversaries such as the Gorn were now drinking buddies at the bar. New membership growth likely included vast swaths of pacifist members who would advocate against Starfleet military-like postures. This meant huge slashes in weapon and defense spending, but more funds in pure exploration ships. The occasional uprisings would be dealt with through negotiation rather than violence. All the while this was going on, the Cardassians, well known to the Federation by then, but only had small territorial areas, grew steadily acquiring more planetary systems one by one and started to test the waters with the mighty Federation. The Federation used its tactics of negotiation to appease them. Pacifists on the Federation advocated for non-violence and Starfleet followed through, only using pure defensive means where necessary. Civilians arming themselves to fight the Cardies in the territorial disputes were quickly rounded up by Starfleet, arrested, and placed into prison camps to ensure they would not paint a picture of aggression by the Federation. Slowly but surely, the Cardies became a superpower due to Federation policy.

@@oldtwinsna8347Except no, the Federation neutralized the Cardassians where they popped up and by the time of DS9, Cardassian military power was at an all time low. Forced to evacuate from Bajor and before the Battle of the Omarion Nebula even the Maquis had basically kicked them out of the Demilitarized Zone even without Starfleet's help. The Cardassians never had a hope of being a superpower.

@@oldtwinsna8347 This reads like a conservative critique of the federation as an institution. I actually agree with you. The federation did in fact create this problem through a failure to project hard power when required. It is too idealistic an institution and that makes it weaker, because it's something the federations real adversaries are willing to exploit. They don't need to go war-mode all the time - but being able to do violence is important for a state, any state, no matter how humane, righteous and advanced.

@@swordarmstudios6052 “A wise king never seeks out war, but he must always be ready for it.” -Odin

Replace 'humans' with 'Bajorans' and you've just explained the occupation

@@TheKyrix82 granted, I do wish there was a recurring character who was genuinely regretful of the occupation. There are several one-offs and Garak is allied with the federation but up until the end there really isn't a returning character in DS9 akin to S7 Damar that could have been very interesting to see. But no series is perfect and can satisfy all wishes.

Eeyup.

@Hayden Price you're not a navy man, are you?

@@TheKyrix82 There were a lot of Cardassians that were against the occupation too. You just didn't see much of them because they were arrested for speaking out against the government. Later in DS9 you get to see a lot of these underground resistance groups.

Excellently written words

LOTS OF BEANS, LOTS OF BEANS

I believe there's stuff in the Expanded Universe that deals with Gul Macet. He's actually Dukat's cousin, and they did *not* like each other. In fact, the Expanded Universe works state that Macet was part of Damar's rebellion and commanded the attack on the Voorta cloning facility mentioned during "The Changing Face of Evil".

@@jonathonbartos3061 Oh, that does not bode well. Damar's rebellion was completely squashed to the last man before he escaped to the Cardassian Homeworld.

​@@vguyver2It's not canon.

I think when you deal with war stories in the mature way they try to in the Cardassia arc, it's good to meet characters that you just never see again. If everybody the main characters ever run into end up surviving or having some great dramatic death then it undermines the fact that in war people often just die. You may meet somebody one day and the next you find that they were hit by a bomb or were standing in the wrong place at the wrong time and now they're just gone.

I've a feeling he turned into Odo on DS9.........

The decision to attack an outpost on bad intel is one thing, going through with an assault aimed towards erradicating everything and everyone in sight despite the outpost clearly not being a launchpoint for an invasion (as was said to justify the attack) is where it becomes terrible. Miles says he was holed up in the outer districts of the colony when the main parts were already destroyed and many killed. The cardassian soldiers still continued to attack civilians, women and children, even though at that point they should know that this is a civilian outpost and they were slaughtering harmless people. If anything, this is a great example of apologetism towards blatant war crimes we see in real life. Someone decides to lay waste to a city, hospital, mall, even though it's of no military value and you either ramp up propaganda to tell your people that it was a necessity or failing that, you tell them it was a mistake. Maybe even both and let people pick their favorite explanation.

@@h.a.9880 Given that this guy lives in a system where you are constantly screened and any seditious word could mean trouble for you, its incredible that he's willing to say it WAS a mistake. His tone and body language also clearly indicates he's ashamed of the incident. And its unlikely that all Cardassian soldiers continued the attack, as in every massacre, you see a portion that just is unwilling to go through with it. And many of those that did go throught with it? Probably thought that if they didn't, it would mean treason, and danger not only to themselves but their own families. It's never black-and-white. Except for the leadership. THEY should have stopped once they realized the intel was faulty.

@@Ares99999Cardassians in general are not portrayed in a very flattering light. Picard is tortured by some dude right in front of said dude's daughter and neither think anything of it. It's a very militaristic society as well. So I have my doubts regarding soldiers holding back and the "I was only following orders"-routine isn't particularly impressive when it comes to war crimes (fictional or otherwise). And finally: It's kind of fascinating to assume that the leaders weren't aware of the intel being bad. With the Cardassians, you migth as well assume that they are the ones that came up with the lie.

@@h.a.9880 So, in effect, you think an ENTIRE SPECIES is evil. How one-note. But you do you, I guess. But anybody who is unable to even CONCEIVE of good people still being around in a bad society sees the world in a black-and-white way that I can't stand. Muted.

​@@h.a.9880The fog of war flatters no one...

Yes. Most people don’t get this. Starfleet does not destroy planets because it is not their way, not for the lack of technology. The more tech you have, more options are open. So to kill someone would hurt even more.

The fact they were able to take this one scene, and flesh it out enough to base three episodes of DS9 on it, just shows how good it is.

@@Sage2000 Tell that to Sisco.

@@joffrecordan Oh my… I hated that episode

the episodes are on netflix

The few times that Colm Meaney had a chance to do some real acting in TNG and not just be the guy át the transporter controls he really shined. This one of those times. This scene and a few others were probably the reason the Producers of DS9 decided to bring him on as a main cast member.

@@BillinHungary I never thought of him as anything but a main cast member watching the show. He is very much part of the essence of Star Trek.

His role was NEVER meant to stick but somehow it did on a recurring basis, until he became a regular for the DS9 launch. hell .... TNG left him with two rank insignia on his uniform, even though he "only" was an enlisted officer. they didn't even bother to fix his uniform until he went to DS9. lol

I remember it being said that he had in his contract the ability to take time off to pursue movie roles. Probably why he wasn't a more regular part of the crew.

In DS9 he ascended to hero of the federation lol. He singlehandedly saved the alpha quadrant multiple times.

Meaning he was a subject matter expert on starship combat before he arrived on the Enterprise to supervise the transporter department. Maybe after all that combat on the Rutledge he asked for a less stressful job.

Still annoyed that he couldn’t outwit Odo. In the most important situation of his life, his family, “he” failed where SO MANY others had succeeded before...

@@griergentry8777 As I remember, the only time he needed to outwit Odo and didn't, he just punched him and finished his work. Can't outwit the ol' Irish 1-2.

@@Pgoodso Odo just simply let him go so he could return Molly and said that he was “disappointed”. Everything they did to build O’Brien up ...and he couldn’t do what Quark does on a daily basis.

@@griergentry8777 Of course not. He's too busy turning DS9 into a disgusting cross-breed of Federation and Cardassian technology that only technically "works" on the most basic definitions of the word.

Sounds even more fun than violating your superiors on the holo deck, after your shift has ended.

@@Martin_Hermann But when Barcklay does it, it’s “FUNNY”!

@@notabannedaccount8362 don't forget super-creepy Geordi in this regard 😁

Isn't what you describe basically how the transporter would work anyway?

O'Brien: CAPTAIN! I successfully duplicated that transporter malfunction on the USS Enterprise upgrade. What I got back didn't live long, fortunately. Please inform next of kin.

Ah yes, vampires.

Don't forget the fact that he finishes his drink but doesn't touch the drink the Cardassian orders for him, and he's Irish.

I mean, it's not like he could get drunk from the synthehol anyways. But it's the gesture that's important!

It IS synthehol...

Probably a replication of something that was dreadful to begin with, like Coors Light.

@@blackbot7113 Well, you CAN get "drunk", but unlike alcohol, synthehol allows you to "shake it off". How they accomplish this is left to the imagination.

It's not the stock vintage stash stuff. Just replicated version of what is essentially unlimited supplies of it.

Pony Beans o.o

@@grayeaglej neigh mothatreka.

@@redemption2 My Little Starship: Treking is Magic. Staring Captain Starship Sparkle O.o

"I shouldn't have popped off like that in the turbo lift"

@@grayeaglej Counselor Neighana Trot.

Plus Egyptian themed aliens are always fun to have around. It’s why the Necron are so popular.

@@stingerjohnny9951The Necrons weren't all that popular until the Matt Ward codex gave them flavor. Honestly, I think Trazyn alone is what did it, Trazyn is downright hilarious. It was the only good thing Matt Ward did for 40k

The universal urge to get wrecked.

Well when the ship that you are boldly going in has a bar, it is only natural.

How about boldly going where no man has gone before and someone greets you when you get there? 🤣

"The age of sail was so terrible for humans that they still put bars on every ship so they can get drunk to forget about it"

@@jamesthomas1213that's deep dude

"That why you ask me, didn't you? Because you knew I could do those things that you were incapable of doing."

Its a fakeeeee!

O'Brien must suffer.

At some point they changed the pronunciation to Kah-nahr

And soon, kanar will become a syrupy liquid that is so reminiscent of corn syrup I swear I'll get diabetes from looking at it.

It's called "O'brien must suffer", it was a once-a-season episode, because they got fantastic episodes by torturing the man

O'brien was the Spiderman of Star Trek.

Getting Wrecked!

How I see the sunken buildings on my street

Colm Meaney as O'Brien is some of the best TV ever made in two different series. Great writing, perfect delivery.

Cherish these old episodes, we wont be getting anything of similar quality in future.

But he also puts them back together again....

It's made from the fermented blood and tears of Bajoran children, I'd bet.

kanar is a term like whiskey. there are many different kanars made from different things. Bajoran distilled Kanar is a rare commodity. More expensive kanar seems to have a much deeper intoxication effect then cheap kanar.

I think I saw somewhere that they used corn syrup, if you are asking about how they made the prop, not in world

I make Hasperat quite a few times during the summer, my kids love it.

@@magvel7250 Sugar free Karo syrup. They used regular I think until Biggs was doing his alcoholic thing as Damar and got such a sugar rush that he couldn't drink it anymore.

I hope so too, the Cardassian here was a good person and felt bad about what his people did in the massacre were Maxwell's family was murdered. The worst part is that the Cardassians didn't set out to massacre a civilian colony, they'd thought it was a staging area for a Federation attack on THEM and sought to stop the attack before it happened.

Me too. I hope he was there to rebuild Cardassia, and later found the Chief, with a bottle of Ale in one hand, and two glasses in the other. Even two old soldiers can develop a friendship.

Maybe he was the unnamed survivor of the raid on Cardassian HQ at the end of the show.

@@DrunkCat1337 maybe?

That’s exactly the basis of this line of dialogue came from I think. Meir said this after Munich, yes?

@@kw7807 Not too sure. At 65, my linkage of events and dates is a bit muddled

> mossad trying not to justify nazi behaviour from Israel for 5 minutes challenge (literally impossible)

Well that is the chief problem with beans.

This scene literally builds almost the whole of DS9. The core of the idea, the show, it's all here.

He was probably also the most reserved and non-snide Cardassian in the series. Barely said anything, acknowledged the atrocities and their mistakes, let the Chief go on with his war story... Really wish we saw more folk like him.

He's Garak's half brother :)

@@abletodoit3051 he didn’t even react to that ending quip of O’Brian blaming his people for his killing of a man

I wonder if he knew what a mosquito actually was.

@@LGranthamsHeir Does your name refer to Leslie Grantham?????

Most of them are. Kira learning that lesson is a major factor in saving the Alpha Quadrant

Yeah, the majority of Cardassians are. They just either felt obligated to be hostile to the Federation to protect Cardassia or felt that the Federation was trying to subvert them and destroy their culture. Sure, there were evil Cardassians like Darheel /the Butcher of Galitep/ who deserved to die horribly for their crimes but most Cardassians were just misled or unable to express their displeasure towards what was going on out of fear of the Obsidian Order. When the Order was destroyed in late 2371 by the Dominion, the Cardassians switched over to a democratic civilian government a few months later and killed off Central Command. Had it not been for the Klingon invasion of Cardassia, this new government would likely have smoothed things over with the Federation and eventually have Cardassia ally with it. It was proof to me at least that many Cardassians were unhappy with the Order and Central Command's actions.

Yes, it was seen and told that the problem with Cardassia was the military that was used as a platform for personal glory of its members. And it wasn't just a platform to destroy non-Cardassians, but also that of other Cardassians deemed to be a threat to their power. Granted, it wouldn't be fair to say all military members were power hungry monsters, but many were. And sad to say, but I think the Obsiddian Order probably was a benefit to the Federation as it kept some kind of leash on some of them from going too far.

The way he looks at O'Brian, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the stunned one...

Then it was a bad move as it only made the Federation even MORE determined to defeat the Cardassians and proved to everyone else that the Federation was right about the Cardassians being scaly bastards. It was about as effective as discouraging resistance to them as the Empire from Star Wars blowing up Alderaan was in dissuading people from rebelling against them.