I did say buy the Taycan 😂 🤷‍♂️

THANKS FOR THE LIFT BRO!! 🔥 I loved my X, but lot of valid points on the build quality and interior lack of luxury.

Something else I didn’t mention in the video, the customer support was an absolute joke. Getting the car into service was a nightmare on an app that wouldn’t let me submit all the issues. Followed by an hour wait to drop off the car since there’s only 1 human at the service center. Also no loaners, a $50/day Uber credit is all that’s offered while the car is there for issues from the factory. You spend $150,000 for a car and get worse customer service than a $25k Toyota. Again I think Tesla is a great company and the cars are pretty clever. But they’re not ready for the $100k+ market in my opinion 🙃

This guy sounds like a person who makes good impulsive decisions in life.

I can’t drive with my knees is a wild criticism 😂😂😂

I remember this guy

Great vid. Some things I want to correct. All Teslas come with autopilot for free, which is adaptive cruise control. Full self driving is the $12,000 software. The safety score can’t kick you out of the beta it can only accept you in, the requirement is 90. Only way for you to get kicked out is for you to be on your phone or not touch the wheel for 30secs-1min on 6 different occasions.

Its so strange how much people care what car people drive, what phone or what OS people use. Can't belive people using this or that care is affecting someone else's life that much.

“A miata handles better than this” yeah one of the best handling cars of all time handles better than a heavy ass rocket? Lol bruh…

I‘ve been in multiple Model S‘ and can say the build quality is no where near my 35k Audi… Like you said - everything rattles or creaks smh

Grumpy Joe ranting is probably some of my favourite content. Great video, joe!

Love how your just keeping it real man. Ready to see what’s next

I'd love to see you buy a project vehicle and post progress videos. A 6.0 Powerstroke (if you're a glutton for punishment lol), an old hot rod to restore, maybe even a classic import. Been a long time viewer and love the content, but just mentioning that it would be cool to see sometime in the future. Great work as always 🤘

Great video, the road noise is it really as bad as I can hear? Seems insanely bad the road noise from the tires or is it the road?

Agree with all the build quality stuff but a hard disagree on charging. I live in the east coast and charging is a breeze. You get 300 miles on a charge not the 100 u quoted

I own 2 plaids and I agree with this video. Quality isn’t there at all. The speed is. But there is more to a $150k car than a speed. Although the handling I’m confused about as it beat the bmw m5 cs and Cadillac. 😅 making it one of the fastest in the bends.

So bloody noisy in there

I feel your pain, I just lost $160 on concert tickets

I have model S dual motor performance ludicrous 2019 model & I love it & have none of the issues mentioned in your video.

Thank you. I had a model S in 2016 for 4 months and when I traded it for a Audi s7 I felt a like a massive anxiety was lifted of my shoulders. I was back in a normal car. I have a coworker who had to do a 600 mile trip with his daughter in a model 3 and now he’s regretting his purchase.

Teslas are big batteries and a car thrown around it. Big reason why they have great numbers but the ownership stinks.

I agreed with you 💯. I took delivery of LR MS last month with white interior for 98k ( current price 108k) I mostly hate the yolk & horn. lots of rattles including swivel center screen..all now fixed. 70k is ideal price for LR MS imo. I'm contemplating selling too at 2500 miles

well now these cars are 89k so it would be interesting to hear what you think about the car at 80k for the plaid.

I’m picking one of these up when they’re in the 50k range. What a value! I hope people keep hating so me and my baby can be together.

Among the best and most honest channels.

I used to hate road trips. With my Tesla I almost always drive now. I like stretching while charging and then using autopilot makes it very comfortable for road trips.

Good review bro! Most important note for me was the "buck for the bang" factor... Nicely conveyed 👍

I bought a 2023 Plaid (standard wheel on 19's) with 4k miles for 72k and it serves it's purpose. No build quality issues but the interior leaves a lot to be desired. My 2022 Q50 Redsport blew it away and my Hellcat is more comforable. Both feel more nimble than the Plaid, expecially the brakes. As a daily in the midwest, I'm overall happy with it. Looking at a Model Y Performance for my wife to replace her 2022 QX50. Already seeing the same trade offs.

BMW next then?

It’s okay to NOT like something that others like. Many don’t seem to understand that concept these days. Everybody has different tastes and standards. I’ve driven a Tesla and didn’t like it either. All is well.

Great vid! I’m not at all a car guy but i did just get a C8 and love that thing! First time seeing this ch. great job

I drove my buddy's Plaid, and aside from the acceleration, it was a boring car to drive.

I feel you man. Driving my 3rd model S now but, this will be the last one.

I just did a long trip from Ohio to Hilton Head and had ZERO issues. I love my Model S. It’s not perfect and many of the issues you mention are accurate. But it’s still a wonderful & fun car

Thanks for sharing your experience.

I've driven 50,000 miles in 2 years with my Y. Most of which has been road trips without issue.

“the build quality in this thing” *taps around* sounds solid

I would go crazy bying such an expensive car is just rattling. I would go mad! My Toyota Auris is not rattling at all, and its like 18K.

With rampant car thefts that are getting more violent, the best thing about the Plaid S is that it won’t get targeted for theft because the places they ship stolen cars do not have the infrastructure to use them (not to mention even if they did, you could kill switch your Tesla). That peace of mind is absolutely a huge advantage over every other $100k plus car.

I test drove one with the yoke wheel and it sucked.

I have a Model 3 SR and Model Y performance. Agree with everything you said and more. I've always said these are 50k cars at most. As for the acceleration, yup. I show off to friend a few times and never use it again that way. Also, the safety features are total crap. Lane departure is useless. Sounding off when there is no issue and not when I should hear it. Slow speed collision avoidance sucks too. Visual autopilot turns the wipers on during a dry heat wave for no reason. (Yes, my car was clean) . The RANGE is a total joke. Realistically only 2/3 the stated range. There is a reason they bury the trip odometer two menus deep. I have solar and I charge the car at home, so I have zero cost for energy. But as soon as other manufactures get their act together on EVs, I'm done with them.

Great video bro. I'd never get a plaid just because of the yoke and price tag and don't use it for racing. I picked up a 85 RWD Model S 2014 last year with 54,003 miles for only $27,800 and I love it.

Great video as always, Joe!

Current price for a model S with round steering wheel in any color is $89,990. The yoke is now an extra cost option. The long range model S is now $74,990. From 70 mph the stopping distance is 150 feet which is better than most luxury cars. The downside is they overheat with multiple stops or stops from very high speeds.

Wow, did not expect the Plaid to have any rattles or creeks. That would totally piss me off and drive me crazy! That sucks

finally a non biased american telling the truth , other thing i have noticed is that people wich buy and like the tesla usually never owned a german luxury sedan like s class or 7 series . i get it its fast but you wont be driving fast all time , actually more than 95% of the time driving it will be in comfort and a normal drive , and during that time you have a boring car with terrible quality build.

I love this guy's sense of humor. You got a new subscriber from me, mate.

I loved the "Come at me bro, I'll destroy you" comment in the beginning... LOL

Thanks for a dose of reality amidst a sea of Tesla Kool-Aid slurpees. Technology advance aside, the main point is basic things like fit and finish of Teslas are simply unacceptable in cars of Tesla's $65K - $150K price range, period, let alone poor interior materials. Honda would fire the entire manufacturing line if their $25K Civics have these basic rudimentary fit and finish issues. And I see many commenters saying "mine if fine" but they cannot deny the number of "mine is not fine" buyers out there. For the thousands of Nobel and PhD genius Tesla hires, maybe they should hire some good manufacturing people. What other car companies where new customers come to pick up their car have to run their fingers to detect panel gaps?

Taycan Turbo S is better. I sold mine as well, made money.

Hey I know you’re more of a car channel but I really loved your tech videos from true past! I’d enjoy some new tech/coding content!

Do you not feel like most of the cabin noise would go Un-noticed if there was a combustion engine ?

I had a tesla model s. It was a pos. Built quality is trash even my sisters model x is 💩

Are you going to buy the new 992 911 GT3 RS? I love that car!!

Curious on your thoughts about the Rivian R1T/S

You might be surprised that I'm a Model S Performance driver and enjoyed and subbed after watching this... i'm not offended by the gripes, they're legit. But I do feel differently... I love my Model S despite some minor flaws. I came from an Audi to my Model S and the build quality and material quality is lower. However, my Model S doesn't rattle and maybe since my version is a 2020, i don't experience the yoke issues nor missing turning signals. My model has the older interior which after almost a decade of production, has a little better fit and finish. Also, one KEY cog in my perspective, i bought my Model S used... 35k miles, practically brand new... but half the price of new. Evaluating my car as a 55k car drastically changes your expectations. All that being said, great video, interested to see where this channel goes.

Get an M5, leave this Teslastuff behind

Can’t wait for the x5m video bro 😂

I agree with you 110%!! I currently own a new model S 2022 picked up in January 2022. I have a laundry list of service requests completed. Please read this current model s owners. About a month ago I noticed three protruding dents on the drivers side to the left of the roof glass. I received so much run around with service that after three visits the master service tech walked the lot and almost all model s long range and plaids were noticed to have small dents pushing upwards on the roof to the left and right of the roof glass. Mine were sent to dent wizard for removal but others may notice this. Totally manufactures defect.

Wow, so essentially everything I heard was wrong with Tesla 4 years ago is still a problem today. What a bummer.

As someone who lives down the street from the Tesla factory, I can attest to the lack of build quality.

I'm sorry that this car didn't work out for you. Aside from the car not living up to your expectations for the price point, it sounds like the car didn't fit your lifestyle. I regularly drive 160 - 200 miles in a given day and drop and pick up my 2 kids from school - my Model S Plaid has been perfect for that. I need storage space (to carry the kids' bikes, etc.) but don't like the high center of gravity of an SUV, so a sporty sedan is really the only daily driver that fits what I'm looking for. I've had a Lexus IS-F, Panamera GTS, Guilia Quadrifoglio, BMW M3 (F80) as daily drivers and the Model S Plaid has been my favorite. I had a Model 3 Performance prior to the Plaid and while I don't think the Plaid is worth the money over the Model 3 Performance (I don't think it is 2x as good), I think the Plaid is a much better car (faster, more range, nicer interior, roomier with a hatch, air suspension, more exclusive, nicer exterior with the 21" wheels, etc.) and I wouldn't go back to a Model 3 unless I needed to for financial reasons. For my commute, I can comfortably do a round trip without supercharging. I've only charged the Model S Plaid on a supercharger two times in the 11k miles that I've driven it whereas with the Model 3 Performance, I had to supercharge several times a week (the real world range on my Model S Plaid is 270 miles, it was 200 miles on my Model 3 Performance). With that being said, I don't consider the Model S Plaid to be a luxury car and recognize that I paid for technology, which really can't be compared in an apples to apples manner with an ICE vehicle. It is not a car that I've taken to cars and coffee or car meets as I don't see it as that type of car. However, I've commuted in my 911s and will take the Plaid for daily duty any day over them. I look forward to seeing your new car! I always look forward to your videos!

The one pedal thing is on the BMW i3 as well

Thanks for sharing

I bought a model 3 performance and I love it lol. Sold my camaro ss and zero regrets so far. I'm trying to obtain a c8 as well.

Subbed, shared, notifications on and commented. Respect.

when it was listed at $119k I was on the fence, since then I went ahead and ordered Rivian R1s. Maybe lower power output at around 900hp tri motor.. basic steering wheel and I think it will be a better deal at about $110k

Woow, this is the first video/review that I think has all the valid points I always thought. Thanks for your honesty.

Great video quality as always Joe! Nice job. Don’t really understand the complaints regarding value. Joe is totally ok to have his own opinion of course. I’m 24,000 miles in on my Plaid. The Porsche I have is definitely a better build quality. That said, for $140,000 it’s faster than everything on the road, drives itself, has a full entertainment suite KZfaq, Disney, Netflix. Has great range, etc… I just drove to LA Friday and back Sunday and my passengers couldn’t shut up about it being the best road-tripping car they’ve ever been in. Literally never had an issue road-tripping. Bay Area to LA, one stop at a supercharger for lunch or dinner and by the time you are done eating, you’re car is ready to go. Definitely agree that the brakes should be stronger. Loved my McLaren 600lt and my current 911, but the Plaid is such an amazing value in my eyes. Saying the ford lanekeeping system is in the same hemisphere as autopilot is painfully wrong. Really? Come on man. autopilot takes exits, predicts collisions, can handle stop signs, red lights, etc… I’ve driven my buddy’s f150 platinum many times and the tech is just not in the same hemisphere. Anyways… not trying to convince anyone that Joe made a bad decision. He should love the car he buys and it’s clearly not for him. S class def has better build quality and luxury. But it drinks gas, doesn’t drive itself, is slow by comparison, has far less entertainment features, a much worse infotainment system in general, less storage space. The EQS is, of course, a joke. If you value speed, technology, safety, and entertainment over luxury and build quality, the Tesla is a great value.

Even as a big Tesla fan whos owned a 3 and Y for the last 5 years, the S/X series are simply not worth it. I paid $60k for my Y and it has basically every feature of the S Plaid, except is a bit slower. Like a lot of people have said, how often am I really going to use the 0-60 speed that beyond the 4.0sec 0-60 in my Y? The 3/Y are absolutely worth it and will continue buying them as long as the price doesn't keep going up. The S/X aren't on the radar.

Does your head get hot while driving ?

Super informative!

X5m was the right move anyways

2:59 Thank you this is exactly why I don't mess with tesla or mophar like for that same money the other Germans and Japanese/Korean cars are way better with tech and luxury

Ironically, watching this while I eat Panda Express for lunch 😂

Yeah, Tesla quality is just shit. I've had mine for a month and between paint bubbles, stains on the white interior, gaps in the moulding, and rust specks captured under the clear coat. If they don't replace the car I'm going to corporate.

I still can’t understand how anyone can spend a ton of money on such a pile of rubbish. An EQS is a million times better. Tesla is just for fanboys that accept every single defect as a virtue.

Miata is always the answer.

Good review Joe

First video I seen of you was a BMW Good to see you back in one 👌🏾

Fair enough, sounds like you got a Friday build, it happens. Rattles and squeaks would drive me crazy. My experience has been very different. I got my Plaid at the end of August and the only car I’d realistically consider trading it in for is the Roadster if it comes out. There is one minor rattle with a plate under the movable display screen, barely hear it over the radio, I’m not in a great hurry to get it fixed. I think the yoke is fine, the only issue I have is I think the horn should be in the center. I have a house in Oregon, bought the Plaid there (no sales tax!) and I already drove it over 2,000 miles to my other house in San Antonio. I thought the Plaid offered a better driving experience than my diesel SUV that gets over 700 miles on a full tank. There were lots of superchargers along the route and I really didn’t need more than 20 minutes of charge to get me to the next supercharger. Autopilot makes a huge difference in a long drive. In the end it was $100 cheaper to drive the Plaid compared to my SUV which gets 31 mpg. The Plaid’s driver’s seat is very comfortable to me. It’s my daily driver and like you said the one pedal driving is great. Exterior build quality could be more precise in a few spots. I found no fault with the interior.

I have a 2010 E60 550i and a 2018 Model X 100D, bought the X cause family was working there at the time. I drive a lot for work, currently 110k miles driven. I can do mileage deprecation, that played a big role in me keeping the car, car also has free supercharging for life. My E60 is much better car, personally the basic things are what disappoint my in the Tesla ex. headlights, switchgear, dimming side view mirrors (this actually pisses me off the most, they are so bad). The suspension and braking is atrocious compared to my E60. IMO the only Tesla model someone should consider is Model Y, all of the engineering effort is being spent on that car and it shows. The single piece castings, make a huge difference in build quality. The pricing is still kinda wack, but it’ll come down fast next year as the Austin factory ramps production and EV tax credit. The flagship EV Sedan is the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo, EV SUV is the BMW iX. BMW iX is arguably a better EV than the Taycan, they did an incredible job.

As an owner of a Model 3 Performance these are all great critiques. The build quality is fair enough to me got my price, but I fully agree for the price of the S plaid.

Lol dope video .. keep them coming

He got an ///M5cs

get a taycan.... simple effective and better than a Tesla...

What do you think about the Bronco Raptor?

Joe needs to know that we know he doesn’t need to make regular contents for his gains.. its for us cos we need more contents!

When people ask why I bought a Taycan instead of a Plaid, I'm just gonna send them this video. 100% agree with your points.

Thanks for telling it like it is, Joe. I've had a Model S for 7.5 years.

That grill hint 👌🏼

felt tbh. I drive a model s p100d, but I feel you on the interior build quality. tbh I bought this car for the performance tho, which is indebatably good, but for a daily it's pretty average.

Great video! Sorry I’m wanna of the haters. I just can’t get onboard with the EV band wagon 🤷🏼‍♂️

How much $ did you lose selling it?

I have owned a 2018 model s p100d since new. No rattles at all. No issue charging it - I just like charging it for free which is a little harder. No major issues and have never serviced it… I like the white interior too. Think it looks hot. Own a Porsche 911 and skyline GTR too.

Its like a 1000hp Camry with no quality.

I rented a Model S Plaid and after driving it for a day I was surprised when you bought one. It’s the definition of a one trick pony IMO. And I agree, the acceleration isn’t even fun and that’s the reason people buy the car. The base Model S Long Range was a good value at $80k last year but now the same car costs $105k.

Awesome Joe! Joe knows best!

Why would anyone spend $120.000 on a boring telsa.

Taycan time baby