With all my heart, i say i agree

what if I'm a neutral person

@@catmixo you get banned too Unless you pay them, nudge nudge

If we yell at Microsoft now, they'd have to manage this according to our expectations. There's a good chance this is all being done for another purpose, and won't actually be fully implemented or enforced.

@@PhoenixSC this is literally 1984

oh man, no more breaking bad meth stash on my minecraft server anymore

it's youtube fake report all over again just wilt minecraft

AND THEIR COMMUNITY STANDARDS SAY THAT YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO TYPE LIKE THIS.

@@CaptainX2012 WHAT THE HELL?

*says racist joke 10 years ago on a private teamspeak VC* Welp guess you're banned. Also, you're really good at PvP? Guesss you're banned for exploiting. Oh you got bot reports? Guess you're banned.

yea

It doesn't take the whole chat log either, players can pick and choose (up to 5) messages to send in a report. If it's giving the reporters the ability to doctor their reports, how much faith do you have in the review team making the right decisions and only issuing fair bans? Lmfao

The idea of being banned from *all multiplayer servers* for talking in all caps is ludicrous to me. This whole thing is BS

@@jackmcawesome7087 yeah, I totally agree... I have given the Caps button on my keyboard the Funktion of sneaking, so it constantly happens to me to write in all caps on accident... Also there should be a possibility for turning stuff all written in caps into "normal" letters (on servers) as I've seen it on one server and think that's a good solution for this "problem"

''saying things we dont like can usually lead to bans'' ah yes replace ''bans'' with ''censorship'' and we have ourselves a beautiful political discussion on our hands anyway my friend has a realms server because our friend group is all over the world so we needed a good connection and a 24/7 connection possibility WE HAVE EXPERIANCED THE CENSORSHIP its absolute trash and thats not even with the bans by mojang in place yet we werent able to even speak with each other because the censorship filter thought we were swearing in every sentence so we basically werent able to communicate we immediately moved to discord until the censorship was reverted a week later (i think they were testing it and used us as test subjects against our consent) not to mention my friend doesnt speak good english so he types in his language every sentence he said was either censored or didnt even send and he was just trying to communicate with us like: ''theres cobble in the double chest on the right'' that message didnt even send he had to message me on discord for me to even receive anything if this gets implemented then minecraft chat will be completely unusable and useless

I'm libertarian, and I can totally see the LEGAL right Mojang has to do this, since it's their game. (whether they have the MORAL right to do it is entirely different and the answer is decidedly no) However, if Mojang wants to hide behind complete private ownership, then they shouldn't get protection from the publicly funded government enforcing their EULA. In other words, if they want to fuck over consumers, consumers have every right to fuck THEM over with piracy, flagrantly violating their EULA, etc. Whether they have the legal right to do this or not, it still makes the reprehensible scum bags

@@robonator2945 Companies break the law constantly because there's no feasible way for individuals to take them to court and they know it. In many cases, the court fees and fines are also far less than their potential profits. Hence why there's so many instances of companies ignoring calls for recalls even when ppl due, because it's cheaper to settle out of court. In this case, these rules 'should' only apply to future versions of the game, not the older ones. As long as that remains true, technically they're in the clear in the States at least, but I'm extremely dubious about it cuz I don't trust Microsoft. So far it seems like it's not as bad as I was fearing tho. Laws are not set in stone and we can always demand they be changed. Laws are dictated by morals and money. It's extremely unlikely for the common folk to be prioritized in lawmaking nowadays due to the latter. Lobbying is a big business and it's very effective. Average folk just can't compete with major corporations with the current state of things. Taxes are a great example of just how warped the priorities of the government have gotten. There should never be an instance where individuals pay more taxes than multinational corporations, yet here we are. I'll end the ideological mini-rant here tho.

​@@Heeroneko thanks for the politically motivated essay but it's not relevant to anything I said. Outside of proving you've never heard of a class action it does nothing for the conversation. It doesnt even refute the ideal stance I actually presented of "it should be legal, and it should also be legal for end users to violate the EULA and just play a cracked version of the game". If anything your long winded argument argued IN FAVOUR of a limited libertarian esque government since the government can't be trusted and will always be under the tug of corporate manipulation; so a weak and heavily regulated government limits the damage lobbying can do. Realistically the things thatcause the most harm are always done by government politicians and not corporate lobbying, (bad mustache man wasn't a CEO, he was a head of state) but we're operating under the presumption you're argument is valid here. Either you don't realize people don't need to go to court to get authorization to play a cracked copy of a game, or you didn't read what I said, assumed you knew what I said, and wrote an essay debunking what I didn't say.

@@robonator2945 You started your comment off with 'I'm libertarian'. You're the one seeing this through the lens of politics. My statements didn't refute yours, because I wasn't trying to refute anything. I stated facts about how the world works flavored with my disdain that it is so. If you're not capable of discussing topics with ppl who share different viewpoints than you without starting arguments w them, I don't know what to tell ya. That's a you problem. Most of the time there are clauses included that require you to agree not to file a class action lawsuit. Some states might protect against this by invalidating EULAs that include such clauses, but they're extremely common and have been used to strike down class action suits in the past successfully. Many EULAs are already considered unenforceable/illegal by default so that should also be kept in mind. A lot of that does not matter, because what legal recourse does the average person have? Most people do not have a personal lawyer and while there are free consultations, legal fees can easily bankrupt individuals. You also have to consider that many lawyers will not touch such cases with a 10 ft pole because they want to maintain a positive relationship with those companies and avoid getting blacklisted. There's also the time you have to take out of your personal life, the time you have to take off work for court dates, the travel fees depending on where the case is filed, etc. It is not easy or simple to take a multinational corporation to court. If you already own Minecraft, you can still download and play previous versions of the game, including using the old launcher that does not require an account log in. I didn't mention pirating, because I didn't think it was relevant when none of this affects ppl who are already using cracked copies of the game. Nintendo sent a guy to jail for cracking their shit and the guy's going to be paying them a large chunk of his paycheck til the day he dies. So, there's also that to consider, tho technically as long as you're only dling cracked content, not creating or disbursing it, you should be fine.

​@@Heeroneko I stated a political position within relevant context in order to explain a position and effectively argue it in a succinct manner, you just went on a completely disjointed rant that doesn't even remotely apply because you wanted a soapbox. Personal conceptions regarding private freedoms and government control directly tie into the conversation, you went on some random unrelated rant about how hard it is to sue corporations, a fact which holds zero relevancy to the conversation since my entire point was they ARE within their legal right, ergo, cannot, or at least should not, be suable. Now you could have argued a reason why you disagree and they SHOULD be liable, but that's not what you did, you went on a tirade about how hard it is to sue corporations, taking their culpability as a given when it's the explicit point of contention. Either you genuinely have no fucking idea what the conversation is about and are just talking out your ass, or you're intentionally being dense because you know you don't have a rebuttal, and frankly between terminally stupid and terminally dishonest I'm not sure which is worse.

you dont miss old minecraft, you just miss being happy

No we miss not having a massive corporation breathing down our necks when we play a game the WE bought.

no most of you miss being happy, when companies weren’t doing whatever their doing now

@adrolll @ryan-uk6jf you guys certainly know exactly how someone you've never met is feeling! Incredible

woops i accidentally enabled capslo--why can't i go online?

IT'S KINDA SAD, REALLY.

DAMN DANIEL

Oh hey didn't expect to see you here

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT PLAY ONLINE ANYMORE FOR "YELLING"

I bought this game over 10 years ago from a different company, and now they can stop me playing with my friends? Theft. Plain and simple.

@@KyriosHeptagrammaton Sadly no. You never bought the game. You bought the right to download software and use it within the ever updating Terms of Service. With physical releases you at least have the storage medium that is objectively yours. Edit note: Added "within the ever updating Terms of Service"

@@HeresorLegacy I'm not sure. Back when they were a small indie company I might have actually owned the game, which would make this so much worse. If I 'buy' a game from EA I know what to expect, but in this case...

@@HeresorLegacy yar har fiddle dee dee

@@HeresorLegacy no stop with the semantics you gave them money for a product or service in the case of a product that product belongs to you the it's just a license to use is a bullshit cop-out no I gave them money for a product what I do with that product is my business and you can disagree all you want but in America guns speak louder than ink on paper take my shit from my cool dead hands but that won't be very east with bullet holes in you that's how it should be everyone's a armed society is a polite society we everyone's got the ability to kill regardless of age and gender people are nicer to each other if you've never been in rural America than you'd never know that when everyone's got a shot gun that they can put holes in a 1000 pound animal with people will wave a say hi to their neighbors and be pleasant but walk down the road in a big city and you'll see people yelling and cursing like a sailer in traffic it's because the person in front of them in traffic probably doesn't have a gun if he did and everyone knew he did that would have never happened you've got to be some kind of stupid to insult someone you know has a weapon that can put holes in your 2k pound car like Swiss cheese

Because there's always that one mad 7yo that keeps spamming the report feature for the entirely wrong reason because they called them a doo-doo head.

To be honest I think everyone freaking out about this is afraid because they're used to saying terrible things in chat like. Genuinely mojang is not going to ban you for calling someone a doodoo head, they're going to ban you for saying a racial slur.

@@theforkgroup6781 Maybe, but I would bet against you. I genuinely believe that there would be more false reports than actual bannable offenses, and I don't think I'm alone. I can see why you think what you think, but I guess our online experiences are just different.

@@theforkgroup6781 they ban for swearing, context doesnt matter, a 3 day ban for profanity by just saying fuck in chat. They will ban you for anything, theres no team big enough to moderate minecraft, no matter what bullshit you can say, there litteraly is not a company on earth, including amazon, that can afford a moderation team big enough to handle all of minecraft, and its subcommunities. And dont even try AI moderation, it quite litteraly will never understand context unless it can think along the lines of a human.

@@qwertypixelYT lol

for the last category, it feels like their point is to destroy Minecraft: Java Edition.

How are words like "kill" and "detonate" against the rules when both are fundamental aspects of the game? That's so stupid

Uuuum the "this article" isn't a link. I would love to see such a link though.

@@t20kdc it'll be better if you send your discord and then i can link on it to you

@@gpu3050ti Why exactly should I need to send a Discordtag to get a link to what is presumably a public article?

Indeed, what if you join a private server with no rules (where you can swear, etc), and some random stranger reports you? This just feels stupid. Java Edition used to be like the open version of the game where you host your own servers and there isn't really a central authority controlling everyone and everything. Now it's all going downhill.

Oh no, my single diamond was stolen! How am I going to make my shovel now?

Or a group of people deciding to bully someone, because it is [insert reason here].

Bot broke lol

It is a big issue but it may help slightly against hypixel or bug server moderation

I'd allow it.

NOOOOOOOOOO

@@PhoenixSC can u remove the spambots pls

@@daenite2480 gg on getting pinned lol

Chad move

I agree this is morally horrible (although as a libertarian I think they Mojang should have a right to do this, and then the players should have the right to fuck them back by just violating the EULA anyway and Mojang can do fuck all to stop them as we normalize the use of cracked servers and clients) but the closer of "Regardless of your opinion, this is objectively fucked" goes too fucking hard, like god damn. I can see that being the concluding line of "Mario the Idea vs Mario the Man"

I really really hope they do the same as Discord affiliated servers do, where if they're official partners, they have to follow a certain set of rules put by Discord and such. Same for Minecraft, but honestly now we just have to pray to fear God they try and reconsider a few things about this.

guess we just found the next way people are gonna get eachother banned on 2b2t. no longer do you need to book ban or even really put in any effort considering 2b2t

it should *at the very least* be an option that can be disabled in the config of the server, and maybe having a big red "you won't be able to report in this server" sign if you try to connect to a server with reporting disabled.

even if they add that someone should make a mod to bypass this, because connecting to a 3rd party Minecraft server got nothing to do with Microsoft

its stupid, I play on 2b as well. Ever since Microsoft got Minecraft I knew it was gona go downhill. Bedrock is for younger people so moderation like this could be considered partly ok but for java which in my opinion is for more older people. But still its Microsoft.

what if you’re playing 2B2T and you blow up somebody’s base, would you get banned for that?

@@notmonkeybusiness Microsoft don't think shit through, first a forced migration and now chat reports. Everything nowadays is dying due to power hungry leaders. KZfaq, minecraft, everything.

@@notmonkeybusiness Not justifiably, that's an anarchy server and griefing is allowed because there's no rules.

@@glowstickqueen7139 At this point, "justifiably" doesn't matter. If my friends and I are all adults and decide we're okay with swearing, mojang could still decide we're breaking *their* rules and have us banned anyway (assuming someone reported a message).

@@glowstickqueen7139 It's 2B2T, it's not really no rules. Saying kill in the chat will 100% get you banned from buying priority queue which makes the server practically unplayable. The server doesn't deserve to be called an anarchy server anymore.

Even if they were my dad, I still wouldn't trust them. A corporation sounds like a pretty shitty father to me..

especially when it's owned by MICROSOFT. *M I C R O S O F T .*

i got banned for making jokes with my friends & they weren’t even awful jokes we were jus calling each other mommy and shit 💀💀

I got banned for hacking but I was not hacking lol

@@Mr.EraserMan YOU CAN GET BANNED FROM THE WHOLE GAME FOR HACKED CLIENTS?????????????????? nah this is too far and the only time i used hacked clients was when the president of my country made a minecraft server and i just had to

In a sense, they do have the right. Have you read their ToS? This was such a controversial comment that people are still screaming the exact same stuff at me a month later.

@@aurele2989 In a moral sense they don't. As for the legal part, i don't know. It might be illegal to do that depending on your country, and ToS is not an excuse to break the law. But then again, i'm no lawyer, so you have to ask one.

They absolutely have all the right to block it, you agreed to that years ago. your license is not ownership of the game, I don't agree with heavy handed moderation but to act like you have some special right is false and ignorant

@@aurele2989 Are you okay with your data being collected 24/7? Because that's what Windows and everything you use does. But hey, it's in the ToS, so it must be justified, right?

@@syrelian And you will accept that kind of thing? Defend it? If we don't push back on this change, one can only imagine what kind of fucked up, anti-consumer shit companies will be able to get away with in the near future.

But hacked clients could still probably autoreport your message instantly as well. It would keep non cheaters from reporting, but hacked clients with autoreport features would still be able to do it

hmmm? where have i seen this before? OH YEAH! roblox

@@asogameing8271 roblox itself only has cosmetics and stuff in games is dictated by devs, if theyre money hungry its their problem lol

@@fajdek7032 it is on Roblox's platform though, is it not? Therefore it is Roblox's fault too for allowing it.

@@fajdek7032 Roblox not only allows predatory practices, but fully endorses it. (and does it itself) It's not 'only cosmetics' as once a developer receives 'robux' (the currency) they can not completely convert it into cash. Roblox has a 'DevEx' program, allowing certain developers to redeem the currency at a set rate. (50,000 'robux' for 175usd) The most 'robux' that can be bought at a time is 10,000 for 100usd (and the cost per currency gets higher for the lower 'packages') That's a profit of 325usd (assuming the 1 currency to 1 cent ratio; But the highest ratio is 1/1.175 for the 1700 currency for 20usd) 325/500usd, is assuming 100% of the currency goes to the developer, but it does not; as if I understand correctly there's a 30% tax. That means 425/500usd remains in roblox's hands. The tax means it would require about 65,000 currency (again assuming 100% goes to a developer and not roblox itself) to be- purchased for someone to redeem 175 dollars. There's a whole lot more shady practices which is used to restrict 'robux' actually getting to a developer. As an example; The minimum DevEx redemption is 50,000 'robux', which cuts off alot of developers from actually being able to redeem for cash. 'robux' is not a real currency, and does not behave like a true currency. 100% of all 'robux' purchases goes directly to roblox itself, only a very small amount is actually paid to it's developers. I don't understand why people ever use 'bad apple' arguments to defend something

​(while looking at some replies to some of my comments, I recently noticed that the person I replied to removed their original comment. an extension saved the comment I replied to, so for the sake of better clarity I will post it below. Underneath their original comment is my original reply to it.) ""Whilst I do hate the Roblox Corporation a lot of what you said are pretty ehh. It is only cosmetics unless you're on pay to win games which in that case that's a you problem. The DevEx program is a good thing. It allowed many developers to make millions and overall increased the quality of most games while a lot more cashgrabs were made. While it does suck that developers only get 1/5 of the money you have to realize that Roblox is pretty difficult to run and does have very high server costs. They also have staff to pay. They even write where the money goes to on the developer forums. The 50,000 robux minimum is there for a reason. Developers have to submit tax information that must be kept up to date at all times. Must be 13+ and have a guardian if not 18+. And a lot more. If everyone and their dog can DevEx because their friend bought something from their game it would be a mess. If you made a high quality game with a decent sized community then earning 50,000 robux would not be an issue. Use the platform and understand it before you make a comment on how it works. Roblox has way more serious issues that aren't being talked about yet people are talking about nonissues like these"" @@efwfewewf4649 Just because roblox refuses to address pedophilia on the site, does not mean these issues should be ignored. allowing a company doing a multitude of issues to get away with one of their many issues because 'there's bigger issues' is dumb at best, and malicious at worst. I have used the site before, and played some of the most popular games; many of which are social games and do not have any form of pay-to-win, it actually took me awhile to find a game that was a competitive game that had genuine pay-to-win. They all have predatory practices. You're using the exact same argument as the person before 'It's just some money hungry bad apples!' It's not, it never is. I'm quite glad you brought up cosmetics, the children on that site become awful elitist cut-throat little capitalists; all because of some digital assets & a literal stock market. Kids are bullied when they do not buy the digital currency and get some of the cosmetics, and are praised for buying stock-based cosmetics (so called 'limited' hats). While the pedophilia on the site is awful, and heart gutting to hear about; the cosmetic & currency side of the site are much worse in terms of the amount of children affected. Oh, and the 'way more serious issues' are talked about alot more than the currency side of things. It's very easy to find many news articles describing the almost systemic levels of child grooming and pedophilia, while the silencing of critics, and it's predatory practices to get kids addicted to buying currency are much less common to be talked about. For a supposed critic of roblox, you sure do alot of defending it. And most of my original comment was factual statements about the profit roblox makes in comparison to the costs of DevEx

ma'am this is a Wendys

Never forget the shirley exception

​@@thepenmen22 this is people's childhoods and PRICATELY OWNED servers at risk because they mentioned catching a beer with a friend (mention of alcohol is bannable) or because they outskilled a streamer and God forbid had the audacity to say a curse word. this isn't a server or a simple new account. it's over a decade of memories snd adventure being corrupted by an abusive corporate profit system intended on not profiting off JUST realms and advertising and new accounts already being made. if we don't set a bar, no one will. add whitelists of banned players for public servers and get your fuckass corporate hands out of my private life. if the other players leave the realm, let them. the admins allowed that behavior for a reason. let them exercise their rights.

This minecraft shit get serious. Be ready to die behind it.

ive been saying this for years theyre not doing it for ''our good'' theyre doing it for their own and trying to justify it as it being ''our good'' to those who are gullible cant wait to not be able to communicate normally through MC and im gonna have to use discord or some other platform to message each other basically completely nullifying the games chat ''feature'' at that point

well, server developers can block all packets or encrypt it to make sure no one got banned, done, ez clap

Yeah, and that comparison is rather literal too since the multiplayer button being completely grayed-out like that means you can even join LAN worlds.

Hello mogi u also watch his video (Make more cheating in build competition videos) If u don't cheat u r still better than them🤗

me: changes version to 1.19 ;)

Minecraft is like a an open platform / game engine to me. I don't care about 1.19, I just hope that older versions will remain the same (no Microsoft ban system) because the only versions I care about are 1.8, 1.12 and 1.16

Hello Mogi

@@Corgi_Repairs but everyone on 1.19.1 can still have the ability to report you.

I would rather*. I've seen ms moderation before and it looks like a shit show.

@@babywaffles It does not look like a shit show, it IS a shit show.

I think minecraft moderation is slowly becoming roblox moderation

@@earlraivengohetia7878 Waiting for the day when ******** **** ** ******

Yeah

Me n the boys banning hypixel staff so we can dupe endlessly

@@vignasimp2835 That is genius, and I feel like it would work.

@@tonig2255 I think Mojang would notice if they were about to ban staff from from a reputable server like Hypixel

And then the misreported players are just completely locked out of multiplayer. Like I know so many players that have private realms/servers with their friends, family, or partners which are really important to them. The idea of them getting falsely banned, even if temporarily feels pretty awful. The moderation system feels both unnecessary and unreliable

Some poeple are talking about devoloping mass reporting bots. I can't wait to see what happenes after 1.19.1 Also I'm not updating beyond 1.19. Simple as that

Minecraft has so many players there's no way they can manually review anything. It'll likely just be something automated again

"it's hard to find a moderation system that hasn't been abused in some way"

@@SashaMasonVR and oh boy if the automation screws up...

@@SashaMasonVR That just makes it WORSE. Imagine getting your driver's license revoked because some AI malfunctioned. This is going to screw over so many people, and this is on top of those folks who would be screwed over for not following the popular group-think a.k.a. whichever ideology and identity Microsoft decides to advocate for at any given time, which judging by what's currently trendy for megacorporations, is wokism. They're already doing thought-policing crap like this in real life, now it's seeping in to what was once a fun little refuge from it.

@@EnoEso Oh boy indeed...

Imagine getting banned on 2b2t

While watching, I instantly thought that this kind of ban should come with ban reviews/unban request, just as any other big platform (youtube strikes is a great example) and with limited previous temporary bans/timeouts as warnings to then ban if it keeps happening, but reading "we already know how bad Mojang is with dealing with account issues" made me realize this isn't even near their minds.

@@Mostbee You could say it would be the same as it was in New World (Amazons failed MMO) where they would mass report enemy leaders before PVP to get them auto banned

@@trappedsan3932 Yeah, that' exactly why there should be a request to get the ban reviewed by a human person, if there will be instant bans or automatic services to judge the report.

there are also hackers looking to create hacks in order to flood the system with as many reports as physically possible.

Like Napoleon, Hitler, Putin, etc.

all religions and governments

@@demonking3673 and Stalin

Mao

@@demonking3673 What did Napoleon do?

Microsoft*?

Microsoft* Mojang actually cares about their players But even since Microsoft bought it they’ve been fucking up the game

basically mojang:”lets add a shitty report system and do basically nothing to P2W servers!”

same

true

1.39 gonna be hated for adding Super NFT to Minecraft 2.0.

**gets insta banned again 0.2 seconds after joining the game for ban evading**

*gets ip banned for blowing up someone’s bed*

891073319.6465753*

yay i waited 1 billion years to play minecraft

imagine follow eula

Owo is 100% a ptw admin or something of server

fr, like you fuck around on one server, and you get banned from all?

@@gorillaglue2560 yup , at least it's only in 1.19

@@mohamedbenrokhrokh2293 i bet that if it gets implemented it the ban will span across all versions, since it will probably ban you from joining a server if you try to authenticate using your account.

E is for Everyone, that's there to say, "Hey, you could be turning to dust in your deathbed, 80 and grey hair, but you can still play this, or you could even be barely out of diapers, it's for everyone" This system completely spits in the face of that, it's not for everyone if you shove the "family friendly" initiative down players' throats. Me personally, I absolutely hate the initiative, it's up to the parents/ guardians to keep an eye on their children, not dumb down shit and ruin the fun of all us older fans by implementing bullshit parameters. First it was KZfaq getting slammed with this shit rather than pushing it to the dedicated, KZfaq Kids, but no, fuck the content creator. Microsoft is shit, and they can only get away with stuff cause of their near monopoly on the computer industry. Hhhhhhhhhh

Exactly. I say get as many players together as possible and file a class action.

Correct. Now add in Win11 to the mix. We are edging towards owning nothing and being happy.

@@GradientAscent_ Why Win 11 what did they do this time?

@@trappedsan3932 you can't setup windows 11 without a Microsoft account

Just wait till you ask the Roblox community how our moderation is doing, or me, because I can. Let me tell you, you will feel lucky you're dealing with Microsoft.

@@cutestcreeper569 How bad is it?

​@@spaghettiking653 You can get banned for saying "hi" when reported. The moderation team is just bots. Support team doesn't do much either if you don't file a complaint in time, after you do get unbanned you're just stuck with a punishment record for around a month which is harmful for any Roblox creators who make real income because of guidelines saying so. That sort of dumb really.

You mean the company that brought you Windows 10 creators update wants us to trust them with moderating the largest game in the world?

@@spaghettiking653 I got banned for a week I think for trying to tell other people to vote kick someone bc they were making swastikas all over the server and I had to bypass the censorship in the game to explain why I tried to vote kick them. Im not doing it ever again and I dont think they even got banned -_-

Or worse, accidentally hitting Caps Lock and getting banned for that.

@ELEVEN 🅥 shut it bot

Agreed because some owners can be ok with swearing

unless it’s something real serious

Yea

@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 for example if something isn't supposed to be allowed on the game at all, like links to malicious or bad websites but if it's just swearing spamming or yelling, it should be sent as a weekly/every time the server stops chat report to the server admins, probably sent to some file in the server stuff

2b2t players when they can't spam the n word anymore

I dont see the problem, when you buy the game you accept the condition and rules mojang use. Its the same as any other app you use everyday, word, tiwitter, valorant, etc. If you disagree with mojang, just give the feedback to mojang (worst case escenario just play the game download from a third party) Edit: i forgott something, we didint see anything yet, so there is no reason to say no to this until we can use it

I imagine Mojang will get overwhelmed by the amount of reports coming in from 2b2t and that would be hilarious

@@NA-uz7co And what do you have to say to the people who bought the game before this rule was implemented?

@@NA-uz7co I’m sorry, but that’s BS. I’ve had the game for 8 years now. I never expected to have to be wary of my chat messages in private servers. Microsoft is absolutely overreaching. When I host a private server, I have the expectation that it’s private. This change breaks that privacy.

seize the means of development

Good thing I uninstalled Minecraft a while ago, got stale after playing for 8 years and this video that I found randomly from my recommendations made my actions less regretable. (Also, it's just the case for me and you're allowed to do whatever you want and I won't judge unless it's illegal to do)

@@JenyaFio i still play on 1.8, no reporting, lolz

I guess we just don't update our games. 1.18 and earlier versions are good enough.

Its obviously backed by microsoft so yea I doubt it

Hoooly shit considering I tell people on hypixel shit like “I have your family hostage you fucking bowspammer piece of shit” or “I am in your house” or “die in a fire” I’m totally going to get banned for life

yes.

Microsoft is trying REALLY hard to make the game stay rated E, I guess

If I get banned from hypixel idk what I'm gonna do but it's gonna be bad

swearing shouldn’t be prohibited. It is part of life, you can’t just remove it from the dictionary…

"you pay for" you never needed to pay for it, and now you really shouldn't.

@@QuackUp would it not make more sense to filter cursing instead Or maybe just a chat ban? Rather than completely removing an aspect from the game

Also this would be bad for Anarchy servers

@@QuackUp then they should add a chat filter for kids, but not this, this is just wrong.

@@QuackUp First off, banning those people is up to the server moderators and NOBODY ELSE. Microsoft shouldn't be poking into somebody elses business, its the moderators job to ban people who do that. Second, If those people say horrible things on servers that allow it then they shouldn't be able to be banned for it, plain and simple. People will always cuss other people out, busted report system or not. Or worse, they can use it against you to get you banned from the server by spam-reporting you or otherwise. They say that reports will be looked at by people, but there's no realistic way they could manually review every single report. They WILL implement a bot that reviews the reports, and bots are almost never fair.

I'm playing Minecraft Java on Linux. My private server is Ubuntu. I never agreed to the Microsoft migration Mojang enforced but I guess there was no way around it. I'm doing my best to stay away from Micro$hit as far as possible and yet here they are shoving their dicks in my business once again.

It was pushed on to mojank by microsoft obviously

@@butterfly-fy3wz mojank lol

@@kireal2 yea That what everyone in the technical minecraft community calls them

Which is probably the only reason why they forced the Microsoft account transfer.

Do that and you'll run into another wall: the multiplayer authentication servers won't let you in. This can be proven as it's what they did to Mojang accounts, July 11th, 2022.

Such as "2b2t, the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft"

Guess what There's a ton of amazing mod creators out there who would create plugins to bypass this pathetic B's from Microsoft the crybies who wanna censor everything

@@TheOmnivampire hell yea, screw Microsoft

@@TheOmnivampire damn, thats really nice. Tons of respect to these developerts.

@@ricplays5905 eventually Microsoft is going to suffer backlash from the mod community just wait for Karma

Well said, and I exactly agree with your points. At first, it looked like they bought the game so it could have a bigger dev team to get better features, but it's very clear now that it was all to take advantage of the popularity and make a profit. I already realized the true intentions when I looked at them adding minecoins and the marketplace. Then them switching our accounts over to Micro$oft for "better safety features" (forced us to agree to a set of rules that means they are able to get away with this banning system). Look at Roblox: it's a kids game, with robux (minecoins) and heavy moderation and even chat filtering (hashtags, but on Minecraft it seems to be straight to a ban if you use caps or swears). Roblox is geared towards kids, and Minecraft is heading in that direction. I believe this video is getting more and more relevant: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qM2UZ5eouNGanoU.html

Embrace Extend Extinguish machine go brrrrrrr

Honestly, its hard to see minecraft living much longer, 10 years? Sure, but as long as they want it to, not at this rate. People above 18 host the majority of servers medium to small, and even if the large servers have teams and companies behind them (Hypixel and Mod Networks), hypixel is already making there own game, and most of Modded minecraft is only played by adults or late teens now. With the modpack scene slowly dying every day, and hypixel making there own game, leaving only behind subpar minecraft networks, and the other middle sized servers being ran by individuals who probably would only keep the servers up to profit, not to actually enjoy the game at that point. It would litteraly lead to an extinction of community hosted content, where a new Hypixel and others like it would have to be established by microsoft, and it would just be a bunch of kids fighting and yelling at one another. They would turn minecraft from a game into a kindergarten.

Funny that you censor Microsoft given the topic you disagree with.

@@silverstar8868 replacing the s with $ isn't censorship, it's commentary on how soullessly profit-motivated an organization is.

I know, it's just stupid to the next level.

Yea. The lifetime bans should only be given to actual bad people like pedos and ddos attackers. Not even hackers deserve lifetime bans unless they pose a major threat.

What happens if you spam in a bed for example? You get disconnected for spam and taken to the server list. Can you bypass?

@@ran631 I don't think it will you connect to any server, because I'm pretty sure mojang is aware of modded clients

@@h3xad3cimaldev61 yeah but you never know with them, mojang had made some of the stupidest mistakes ever

@@A68AGaming they'll just buy cracked alt accounts.

It already has. Look up the “No Chat Reports” mod.

Oh, yeah, and plus, Roblox has a big moderation issue where someone can use bots to falsely spam report someone, and get them banned when they ultimately did nothing. Who says that can't happen with minecraft now? We're about to enter a dark age.

From what I've seen - if you're banned, mojang won't authenticate your account to the server. The server will then have no way to know if you're actually the owner of the account, so it won't let you connect. If you're banned, you can't bypass it (the mod that @Apollo mentioned tries to prevent being banned in the first place)

@@enhidri160 I agree plus you are everywhere

Not to mention bots mass reporting random people

KZfaqrs who play Minecraft for a living will get report-spammed by people and they won’t be able to eat

@@landlighterfirestar5550 personally i don't care about streamers or youtubers, and I think that's a non issue, considering that most of them have at least 4 accounts.

@@midorifox Any account that a streamer or youtuber uses is at risk of being banned, it will just take a while longer for them to run out of usable accounts.

@@landlighterfirestar5550 Stop trying to make me like this development.

This guy doing this math and here i am thinking 9+10=21

@@thaobsidiansword3232 lmao

@@thaobsidiansword3232 the right way

It's a billion years exactly, you're forgetting leap years.

@@thaobsidiansword3232 he kinda just divided 3 numbers, lol

more like... bore ragnarok?

Agreed, Mojang have gone too far this time.

@@thevideoman12 rore bagnorak

@@MasterBroNetwork yeah, it’s just a really bad idea. Especially the fact that multiplayer servers aren’t theirs. Best I could think of is making a way to ban certain multiplayer servers for being pay to win, toxic without being made for it(so a kids server but fuck is said all the time), or straight up illegal like admin abuse to control and molest children. But it would have to be with a lot of investigation personally and a great team of investigators.

From communal game to communal toilet

This is what I was going to say

No, make it an OPT IN setting. If I'm paying for my own server I should start out with absolute control over who gets on my server

@@akayysworld I can understand this, but if you are a server admin, it's probably just going to be changing a single line in your servers files. Opt out and opt in, are in this case, practically Identical. Either way, what matters more than what the default setting is, is that we get the choice at all.

can turn off secure profiles in server settings

This is still problematic because it blocks you from multiplayer completely. Get banned from a public server? Tough luck, no more multiplayer, say goodbye to what you probably spent $35 on!

And if you own the server you should be allowed to do what you want on it

Even though I love uncensored chats WAY more than censored ones (entertaining + free speech), this problem has BEEN solved like you said by developers creating strong word filters. Also, I believe public accommodations on private land or servers, even when owned by a private company, are still subject to public constitutional protections of our god given rights. Does anybody know if this is has legal precedent? Because I believe the restrictions go FURTHER than government protected rights, thus violating our rights post purchase of the account. How can they ban me from others servers if the violation was on another one. More so, why doesn't hacking on public servers result in a ban but, swearing on my private server with nobody there can? Literally trying to control my freedom of speech by censoring me outside of their jurisdiction.

"Each server is self-moderated and at the discretion of the server owner. If you were banned or suspended from a privately-owned server on Minecraft please reach out to the Administrator of the server to appeal your ban. We do not intervene in private servers aside from overt violations of the Minecraft EULA and our Terms of Service. Be like Steve and change the world for the better by getting along with others." - Mojang

0:39 Ah sweet I can’t wait to be unbanned in literally 10 BILLION YEARS

if new system works almost every anarchy server(2b2t especially) will basically die because those servers have no rules whatsoever and if you know the chat in those servers, you know why

Its Microsoft. A billion dollar company.

Also, you did have to agree to the Microsoft TOS... so technically Microsoft can at the very least tie everything up.

my middle class ass aint winning a court case against a multi billion dollar company their lawyers are scary and they can easily say that the migration happening isn't substantial enough proof that anything deceptive or manipulative was happening

@@NovaBoi7 Pretty sure Microsoft is a trillion dollar company lol

@goated this is legal statement, go cry for attention somewhere else.

This is gonna be a nightmare

This is what VAC (Valve Anticheat) ban does. It locks your out of multiplayer games on Steam altogether. Permanently.

@@CZghost the difference being that VAC ban won't completely ban you from multiplayer, but only from VAC servers and not because some random kid just reported you for swearing.

Luckily for certain servers (like hypixel) you can enter it on an earlier version, which should allow you to avoid the 1.19 bans (I think, not really sure how it would work).

I support the idea of a "universal ban system," but realm and especially server owners should be able to opt out

Facts

@@gestalt7529 Fax no printer

Facts no fraud

That's why he's been banned for 365241761671 days lol

Facts no sweet home alabama

Or worse, your own server you use by yourself

@@-FutureTaken- oof

Exactly. This is extremely unfair. Mojang is shooting themselves in the foot with this. Being banned from a single server for breaking the rules there, that's fair. But being banned from all multiplayer because of something you did on one server, that's draconian.

Yeah that last one sounds like my entire family and most of the court system I've been involved with...

Hopefully the public backlash they get from this makes them remove it, otherwise time to turn to the high seas with cracked servers

@@karlmarxii1898 just reading the comments of what happened to people makes me dislike this update

I got banned for 3 days for calling a friend gay on my own private realm

got a warning for saying "gg" in roblox

right? realms i get, but private servers that mojang dont run they should stay out of trying to moderate.

Exactly

Aye

Nobody, especially the content creators, should let this pass. If there has to be something similar to #SaveTf2 to prevent this, then let it happen. Protest with your dollar. Minecraft can't become the new roblox. We don't need a "stupid minecraft bans" compilation.

Thats me i dont play singleplayer.

@@testgamer571 sadly yes. old games we all loved are now slowly falling because of bad decisions and/or greed. tf2 is a really good example of valve milking the fuck out of csgo (ew) and tf2. yet not giving a shit about tf2 cause its less popular and only continues to push out new hats and cases but not do shit about bots. game dev companies need to realize what the fuck theyre doing and get back on track on actually being good and not shit like ea

Exactly. One authority should NEVER define the exact meaning of right and wrong, it has never gone well before and it certainly doesn't seem like it will now. The only time this works is when it is fairly relaxed and a big majority agree on it, and even then other cultural backgrounds often disagree.

Hell, here's a fun definition of good: You support all the decisions of the Supreme Court of the USA. You believe that people should have bodily autonomy and that states shouldn't be able to prevent you from exercising that (Roe v Wade)? Banned. You believe that states should be able to decide what you can carry on your body (NYSRPA v Bruen)? Banned. You don't support gay marriage (Obergefell v Hodges)? Banned. Think the government shouldn't be able to seize and destroy your property for their own profit (Gonzalez v Raich)? Banned. Only an extremely small portion of the population would be good, and they're incredibly inconsistent.

The worst part is when the line is,like for so many people, a person I disagree with.

Extremely well said!

Can't wait to see people banned for wrongthink on funny block game amirite

is not everyone play multiplayer?

1.17 and 1.18 is already bs enough

1.9 was such a great update, idk why you said its comparable to 1.19

Another important thing that wasn't mentioned by anyone so far, is that depending on how this ban system will be implemented, mojang could easily prevent you from doing multiplayer on ANY version of the game, as most minecraft servers require mojang authentication. Implementing this for all versions could literally be as easy as adding 3 lines of code. The mojang provided servers do have an option to disable authentication, but it allows anyone to join the server as any user, and also disables skins.

The curse of the 1.x9 version

True

why did notch have to sell out......

@@WibleWobble because the community harassed him

@@blazmatic1216 "bEcAuSe ThE cOmMuNiTy" hate people like you whether it's true or not doesn't matter

I think we will see resurge of offline mode type servers if this comes through. I myself cannot run singleplayer smoothly so I resort into hosting spigot server on my other machine, I won't be able to do that anymore presumably because of some shitty Microsoft idea