'I knew Titanic submarine imploded on Monday and rescue was a 'charade', says James Cameron

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Daily Mail

Daily Mail

11 ай бұрын

Titanic director and submersible expert James Cameron said he predicted Titan's implosion days before the debris from the missing submersible was found, calling the search a 'prolonged nightmarish charade'. Mr Cameron, who has visited the world's most famous seawreck 30 times, said the tragedy this week has parallels with the the Titanic disaster, where the captain repeatedly ignored warnings about an incoming iceberg but carried on at top speed.
A remote operated submarine from a Canadian ship found debris on the ocean floor. But search and rescue officials say the men likely died on Sunday - before military planes using sonar buoys detected what they thought could have been SOS 'banging' sounds in the water. The US Navy said they heard a sound consistent with an implosion when communications were lost around two hours after they dived. The Navy passed on that information to the Coast Guard, an insider said.
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@titanictx883
@titanictx883 11 ай бұрын
A lot of people are unaware that James Cameron has dived to Titanic more than 30 times. In addition to being considered an elite deep sea expert, he also advanced the technology in order to do so. He designed his own submersible that took him into the Mariana Trench in 2012 which made him the first person to do it solo (and only 1 of 3 to have ever done it up to that point). So, if it sounds like he knows what he's talking about in this interview, *he does* -- Furthermore, Cameron is friends with Robert Ballard, the oceanographer who discovered Titanic.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 11 ай бұрын
Nargeolet made more dives than Cameron, which is incredibly tragic now. But yes, Cameron's contribution to deep sea exploration is amazing, and I just love the fact that he has used his movies to pay for that fascination.
@titanictx883
@titanictx883 11 ай бұрын
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 That's true. He did four more trips that Cameron. Wow, he really racked them on fast. It's fascinating to hear James talk about sophisticated deep sea technology with such ease in this interview. He definitely goes all in on any project he's working on.
@vitd5283
@vitd5283 11 ай бұрын
Theyre not aware of it because it is a lie! Paul-Henri Nargeolet has dived to Titanic more than any other person in history.
@StarLight-sl9ok
@StarLight-sl9ok 11 ай бұрын
PH did the same amount of dives and that’s why I’m shocked he got into that junky sub. Maybe he got complacent.
@titanictx883
@titanictx883 11 ай бұрын
@@StarLight-sl9ok Yeah, I'm no engineer but when I saw that submersible 6-months ago on that story CBS Sunday Morning did, I was like "NOOOOOO WAY" -- I had a really bad feeling about it then. Controlled with a playstation remote control? Come on
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 11 ай бұрын
"Now there's one wreck next to another wreck for the same damn reason." This is such a perfect example of history repeating itself because they didn't learn.
@davidbaker6482
@davidbaker6482 11 ай бұрын
I thought that the Titanic hit an iceberg or something. I don't get what the reason is, could you explain it for me?
@heavym6971
@heavym6971 11 ай бұрын
Because people were negligent with safety protocols?
@kobrewing
@kobrewing 11 ай бұрын
The captain of the Titanic was repeatedly warned that the ship was headed towards the ice. He didn’t heed the warnings and reroute the ship. The Titanic was marked as indestructible despite wiser minds knowing better.
@davidbaker6482
@davidbaker6482 11 ай бұрын
@@kobrewing Ah, thanks.
@lewstone5430
@lewstone5430 11 ай бұрын
@davidbaker6482: “dUrR! mE dUmB! pLeAs eXpLaIn!”
@mournblade1066
@mournblade1066 10 ай бұрын
"Now there's one wreck lying next to the other wreck, and for the same damn reason." Words of wisdom.
@mitchellrathbun6915
@mitchellrathbun6915 3 ай бұрын
This. This right here sums it all up… No questions asked.
@gabrielle9958
@gabrielle9958 2 ай бұрын
💯 I said the same thing. They went to see the tragic remains of the Titanic and are now a part of it.
@1ZosoLZ
@1ZosoLZ 2 ай бұрын
There is no wreck of the sub
@melissawickersham9912
@melissawickersham9912 2 ай бұрын
@@1ZosoLZWhy is that? Did the implosion completely disintegrate the sub so that there wouldn’t be any remains left?
@larryo6874
@larryo6874 2 ай бұрын
@@melissawickersham9912 The sub imploded and the parts of the imploded sub have already been found and retrieved.
@luckyburrito9879
@luckyburrito9879 10 ай бұрын
33 dives to the titanic. And he’s been to bottom of the marina trench where it’s 16,000 pounds per square inch. This man knows what he’s doing and talking about. I’d dive with him anywhere anytime.
@cassavaman3784
@cassavaman3784 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely. If he told me my construction was unsafe using certain materials, it would be a yes sir.
@DJ.LakeSea
@DJ.LakeSea 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't dive with him lol. I'd rather be on the deck of the boat above water, drinking some wine and fishing for tuna! But hey, thats just me lol
@heyheyhey33351
@heyheyhey33351 3 ай бұрын
More importantly, he listens to those who know what they're doing and talking about.
@christiannielsen3863
@christiannielsen3863 2 ай бұрын
Not even for a million dollar I would dive in any submarine with anybody. Not even with James Cameron.
@patrickdezenzio4988
@patrickdezenzio4988 2 ай бұрын
@@DJ.LakeSea Yep, nothing to do with Cameron. I don't like being in places that would kill me in a nanosecond. I'm also claustrophobic so add that to how many hours it takes to go down that deep and back. Nope, nope, nope.
@Differentbutrational
@Differentbutrational 11 ай бұрын
My condolences to the man fired from his job for sounding the alarm about the lack of safety. He’s a true hero ❤️
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn 11 ай бұрын
Are you kidding? He can write his own ticket now that he was been proven right.
@jmel1000
@jmel1000 11 ай бұрын
@@GilmerJohn Ticket to where? Narnia
@machaf
@machaf 11 ай бұрын
@@jmel1000 The Biden administration.
@caravanlifenz
@caravanlifenz 11 ай бұрын
@@GilmerJohn The fired guy will probably write a best-selling novel about it now.
@blasianpersuasion85
@blasianpersuasion85 11 ай бұрын
@@caravanlifenzhe should call it “ They should’ve listened”
@pete6705
@pete6705 11 ай бұрын
Of all the people talking about this, James Cameron has given the best explanations of the situation
@blu3_enjoy
@blu3_enjoy 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I didn't know he had the smarts like this. He referred to himself as an engineer in passing and I didn't blink. That's cool
@StarLight-sl9ok
@StarLight-sl9ok 11 ай бұрын
I’m getting the sense there are experts and then people who pretend to be experts and I think we all know what category Stockton was in.
@aansul888
@aansul888 11 ай бұрын
@@blu3_enjoy he did years of research and consultation with scientists before making Titanic. He has made great science fiction so I am pretty sure he is a lot smarter than common engineers and scientists.
@chuckittyduckitty
@chuckittyduckitty 11 ай бұрын
He's been to the titanic dozens of times. He knows what kind of tech and safety measures go knto the descent. And he pretty much said they took no precautions.
@3katfox
@3katfox 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure James Cameron still holds the record for number of trips down to the wreck of the Titanic
@crylune
@crylune 10 ай бұрын
For anybody saying that this man doesn't know what he's talking about because he's "just a movie director" - he manned a solo dive to Challenger Deep, deepest point in the ocean, about three times as deep as the Titanic wreck. He absolutely knows what he's talking about
@ripity0
@ripity0 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for repeating exactly what the comments have already said, you autist.
@jamaly77
@jamaly77 10 ай бұрын
​@@ripity0Having a bad day, loser?
@cthulhu4411
@cthulhu4411 2 ай бұрын
Yeah he's a submarine expert not just a director
@My_trashtalking_account
@My_trashtalking_account 2 ай бұрын
Are people saying that?
@SeanAtkinson-zx2zx
@SeanAtkinson-zx2zx 2 ай бұрын
Who is saying all this? Please be specific.
@haydendraycott7897
@haydendraycott7897 11 ай бұрын
“I wish I’d spoken up…I assumed someone was smarter than me…” Really sucks when other people feel that they’re the ones who have to be accountable for other people’s sheer stupidity and ignorance.
@UmambaNegra
@UmambaNegra 11 ай бұрын
and nobody would listen to him anyway, so...
@angelsub9184
@angelsub9184 11 ай бұрын
Of course he would feel that way. The fact that Cameron is famous for making movies, not having any degree in oceanography could somehow make people question his credibility, eventhough we know he deserve to speak what he knows. Society always relies on experts.
@cherrytraveller5915
@cherrytraveller5915 11 ай бұрын
Regret is always the worst. Especially when the worst happens and someone loses their life.
@jonathanknypstra2137
@jonathanknypstra2137 11 ай бұрын
​@@UmambaNegraI mean he went to challenger deep so I think they would
@UmambaNegra
@UmambaNegra 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathanknypstra2137 they fired the guy who told it wasn't safe, I really think they wouldn't care about James Cameron
@zeus5298
@zeus5298 11 ай бұрын
Learnt more in those 3 mins from Cameron than the hours of news coverage and interviews from supposed experts.
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 11 ай бұрын
YES!
@willigagbob8243
@willigagbob8243 11 ай бұрын
Well thats because you don't listen until you feel you have reason to. Nothing James said wasn't already said 3 days ago.
@KnightOfTheWired
@KnightOfTheWired 11 ай бұрын
​@@willigagbob8243huh no, the news failed to really say why it imploded. They mentioned nothing about the poor choice in material, the death waiver and how community at large was against this idea. This is pretty much what I've been looking after watching a few hours of the new tiptoeing around the greater explanation.
@Sixstringman
@Sixstringman 11 ай бұрын
​@@KnightOfTheWiredthe news is propaganda, thats why.
@earthlyvibes23
@earthlyvibes23 11 ай бұрын
​@@willigagbob8243bs, I never heard about the Comms having separate power and those other stuff
@valiantthor-
@valiantthor- 10 ай бұрын
One moment you are looking at the Titanic, the next second you are having a chat with the Titanic passengers.
@aberrantwolf
@aberrantwolf 2 ай бұрын
Very immersive experience for HeavensGate, I'm going to try to book with them next
@damntravis6056
@damntravis6056 Ай бұрын
They didnt even get to see it..they weren't far enough down and it's pitch black
@kentinson1670
@kentinson1670 25 күн бұрын
One minute you're human beings, one microsecond and you're fish food
@Theemptythroneistaken
@Theemptythroneistaken 22 күн бұрын
​@kentinson1670 You might not know this but I very much doubt there's any meat left for any fish to eat considering what entails an implosion.
@AJDaniels5298
@AJDaniels5298 4 ай бұрын
As a bladesmith, when he said "delamination", my heart froze for a second. I've had knives splinter like glass because of delams. No WONDER it imploded!
@js290
@js290 4 ай бұрын
Ford Exploder and tire delamination...
@SavannahCarnley
@SavannahCarnley 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron has safely done 33 dives to the titanic, this man absolutely knows what he’s talking about, he’s given the best explanation of the situation out of anyone else.
@tonyt.r.5313
@tonyt.r.5313 11 ай бұрын
33. If you know you know.
@joethomas2014
@joethomas2014 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron is trying to push a narrative though. The “distraction” narrative. The reason they did the search is because nations always search until all help is out the window. Cameron literally said “for days I ran other scenarios. So therefor he knew there could be other scenarios. If someone gets lost in the desert in mid summer, they’re most likely gone after day 2…you keep searching just in case. There’s been many rescues where the survivors beat all odds and were rescued
@snakeplissken2148
@snakeplissken2148 11 ай бұрын
only because he was a passenger in a working sub and survived makes him no submarine specialist. he is an expert in making movies.
@Kingi_iti
@Kingi_iti 11 ай бұрын
@@snakeplissken2148James Cameron was the first person to ever solo dive in the Mariana trench and was the 3rd person ever to reach the bottom .James Cameron is surprisingly qualified when it comes to subs
@Jason-gs6hd
@Jason-gs6hd 11 ай бұрын
@@snakeplissken2148he literally designed and built his own sub to visit the deepest part of ocean known to men, wdym he’s not an expert???
@shogrran
@shogrran 11 ай бұрын
Hes using every ounce of patience he has to not just plainly say "its stupid"
@sonandsanford4963
@sonandsanford4963 11 ай бұрын
💯%, my thoughts exactly.
@bobbymoss6160
@bobbymoss6160 11 ай бұрын
Because if he had said the truth, he would get cancelled by ultra sensitive people who are living in delusion.
@everettbr
@everettbr 11 ай бұрын
​@@bobbymoss6160 bro I get that you really want to reuse your favorite rhetorics everywhere, but try to make it at least a little bit relevant to the topic. "THE WOKES won't let James Cameron say that this sub design is stupid!" is just silly
@the_expidition427
@the_expidition427 11 ай бұрын
That would be stupid
@cat-le1hf
@cat-le1hf 11 ай бұрын
​@@bobbymoss6160Yep, the billionaire simping right cannot handle logical criticism.
@jayjayjay457741
@jayjayjay457741 10 ай бұрын
Not just 33 dives to the titanic. James Cameron has the record for the deepest submersible dive recorded. He is a certified expert.
@travelinben1966
@travelinben1966 25 күн бұрын
There's a sense of anger in Camerons voice,and I don't blame him.That pompous ass Rush, took those people to their deaths.
@bvokie1546
@bvokie1546 2 ай бұрын
Never go to the bottom of the ocean in a plastic submarine with the guy known as the "rule breaker".
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 Ай бұрын
The sub was not plastic lol. It was a composite material of Carbon fiber and Titanium.
@sithius99
@sithius99 11 ай бұрын
You can hear and see how angry Cameron is here, and I have to agree with him to be honest. What a disgustingly unnecessary loss of life.
@duran9664
@duran9664 11 ай бұрын
On the other hand 🐟 It’s a feast party for the fish down there🐠 🎣 🐟. If I died, I would love it if animals enjoy feasting on my flesh. 🤏
@bimapringgo
@bimapringgo 11 ай бұрын
Nobody put a gun on their heads to go down there. They knew the risk. They signed the waivers. They only got themselves to blame.
@FamishedYoshi
@FamishedYoshi 11 ай бұрын
@@duran9664 i don't think there was much to eat. Their bodies literally disintegrated instantly
@EckRD
@EckRD 11 ай бұрын
No. He found the opportunity to make Titanic 2
@waynehearst317
@waynehearst317 11 ай бұрын
you saw a guy who was genuinely "concerned"? Ha, wow. I just heard a guy stroke his own ego and brag about how he "Knew it since Monday". What a complete and total doosh-nozzle. Can't stand that guy.
@Da_Publick
@Da_Publick 11 ай бұрын
"Now there's one wreck lying next to the other wreck, for the same damn reason." That's going to be the strongest statement heard about this tragedy.
@alwaysyouramanda
@alwaysyouramanda 11 ай бұрын
To someone who makes $1b a year, it’s like a $10 ticket to someone who makes $40k. They paid what amounted to a movie theater ticket to die next to Titanic.
@callmeishmael3031
@callmeishmael3031 11 ай бұрын
I didn't understand that statement. How was the Titanic similar?
@Boris275
@Boris275 11 ай бұрын
@@callmeishmael3031 Cameron explains this point in one of his other interviews that he did. Just like Stockton, Titanic's captain also ignored repeated warnings about icebergs and went full steam ahead. Ignoring and not mitigating risks seems to be the common thread.
@ethanbest1222
@ethanbest1222 11 ай бұрын
@@callmeishmael3031Hubris. The fact Titanic was going so fast as to make the headlines, which contributed to it not being able to avoid the Iceberg in time and the fact it had nowhere near enough lifeboats because they thought it unsinkable. This Sub is similar because by all accounts, OceanGate were warned about safety but believed they knew better.
@callmeishmael3031
@callmeishmael3031 11 ай бұрын
@@Boris275 Thanks. I thought he might be referring to hull design.
@tackycardia
@tackycardia 2 ай бұрын
Nothing but respect for the man who makes movies to fund his deep-sea exploration
@gerhard7323
@gerhard7323 11 ай бұрын
'Now there's one damn wreck next to the other wreck for the same damn reason" Says it all. Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
@greasesicle
@greasesicle 10 ай бұрын
Cliches suck.
@gerhard7323
@gerhard7323 10 ай бұрын
@@greasesicle Not as much as dying needlessly.
@Winston-lf7sb
@Winston-lf7sb 8 күн бұрын
they were rich billionaire thieves. they died without suffering. its more than we can say about those who's lives were ruined to make these few so rich.
@tbrown8721
@tbrown8721 11 ай бұрын
Out of all the days of this search, and out of all of the experts, authorities, and journalists, the most compelling words I've heard so far; "Now there's one wreck lying next to the other wreck for the same damn reason." Hubris is a hell of a drug...
@jenjen462
@jenjen462 11 ай бұрын
I found and article that quoted the CEO replying to demands for higher safety considerations and inspections, "the craft is basically invulnerable". Like, damn. Isn't that what they said about the Titanic too?
@NothingToPointOut24
@NothingToPointOut24 11 ай бұрын
Something tells me the original Titanic wreck didnt go down because of diversity. But of course Hollywood JC isnt going to go into that part of it. Big difference between pride and self guilt/superiority
@giiggii11
@giiggii11 11 ай бұрын
This goes to show that humans beings never change we are the same today as we were 2000 years ago😢😢😢😢
@lisalarsen2384
@lisalarsen2384 11 ай бұрын
@@giiggii11we’ll always be dumbasses 😂
@spacequack5470
@spacequack5470 11 ай бұрын
@@NothingToPointOut24 Clearly went down for the same reason, pride
@thebritishindian1
@thebritishindian1 11 ай бұрын
3:34 - “Now there’s one wreck lying next to the other wreck for the SAME damn reason” - that absolutely nails this whole saga. May all of them RIP 😔
@well_i_liked_it
@well_i_liked_it 11 ай бұрын
How is it the same reason? Because they both sunk? That is generally how a wreck becomes a wreck. They are lying next to each other for completely different reasons. The submersible didn't hit and iceberg , was not on a transatlantic crossing. The titanic was not a journey to visit another wreck. The submersible never claimed to be unsinkable (note the papers all passengers had to sign realising they could die). This is the complete opposite of "nailing it". We could say it is ironic that the vessel investigating a wreck became a wreck but the same reason?
@ldsman1global587
@ldsman1global587 11 ай бұрын
These wrecks are the symbol of human arrogance. 100 years passed, but nothing has changed... :(
@balle733
@balle733 11 ай бұрын
@@well_i_liked_itit’s the same reason: stupidity and lack of reasoning in building.
@craigmorgan4676
@craigmorgan4676 11 ай бұрын
They ALL fraking stupid debils,wtf I can't believe 5,5 people were in that box of a sub!Not a chance on my life would I go near that thing with 10 foot barge pole,and that's on land!💀😮💀🙈🙈👁👁👁😫😫😫😫
@well_i_liked_it
@well_i_liked_it 11 ай бұрын
@@ldsman1global587 The titanic hit an iceberg wtf are you talking about.
@lielpascual2330
@lielpascual2330 10 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber bicycles have been known to fail catastrophically because micro stress fractures accumulate from shocks absorbed going over uneven patches of road. I'm amazed that the sub company felt that this did not apply to the Titan
@Jack_Russell_Brown
@Jack_Russell_Brown Ай бұрын
👍 Bad welds on metal frames too!
@infrasleep
@infrasleep 24 күн бұрын
Stockton Rush said he "Broke the rules" and "Thought outside the box". Breaking the rules of physics and engineering isn't thinking outside the box,its stupidity. You're right, ALL the failure warnings re carbon fibre were there creating unbreakable rules that he ignored.
@HyBr1dRaNg3r
@HyBr1dRaNg3r 10 ай бұрын
I think one of the best takes I’ve heard was that if your target is like 1300ish meters, the sub shouldn’t have been rated for only 1400 meters…Should have been to at least 2000 meters to give them “breathing room” so they aren’t going to like 98% crush depth every single dive…
@StellaBellaOla
@StellaBellaOla 2 ай бұрын
That's called a Factor of Safety and is a fundamental property of engineering. Anything with human safety involved is supposed to have a significant factor of safety.
@xxfalconarasxx5659
@xxfalconarasxx5659 Ай бұрын
Well, most subs have a given maximum operational depth (maximum recommended depth for operations), test depth (maximum depth tested without problems), and crush depth (maximum depth the sub can go before hull failure is expected).
@fve1352
@fve1352 11 ай бұрын
I am a mechanical engineer and I work with FEM to calculate structural Safety. Listening to him sounded like a work Meeting. He definitely understood the topic… kudos
@rugr82day
@rugr82day 11 ай бұрын
Even from just knowing the basics of ocean pressure, a carbon fiber composite hull sounds so impractical from the start. To know they ignored expert advice from credible sources is negligent.
@roachymart2318
@roachymart2318 11 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber composites are super unforgiving. It rarely warns you about failure until it's currently failing. Always have to be on top of it because one second it's working and the next it got bored and decided to become debris.
@rugr82day
@rugr82day 11 ай бұрын
@@bsrbck , he said he was filming Avatar 2 so wasn't able to add to the letter but several other experts he knew of gave warnings. The father and son who died came in as replacements for a father and son who backed out because the son believed the warnings. When the father canceled the Ocean gate owner told him it was nonsense and dropped 100-150K off the price begging for them to go but they refused. Just because Cameron's a film maker who knows his stuff didn't make it his responsibility and doesn't mean you get to lay any of the blame on him. Be logical.
@d.k.1394
@d.k.1394 11 ай бұрын
Fem???
@rzlb5
@rzlb5 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, every points he made also click every engineering thought process in my brain.
@jumblyman
@jumblyman 11 ай бұрын
He explains this far better than any other expert I've heard comment on this.
@jacobnewell7845
@jacobnewell7845 11 ай бұрын
Because he took the time to use words normal people can understand
@samuelstevens1129
@samuelstevens1129 11 ай бұрын
We need more people like him in general, on other topics too. So many experts utterly fail to distill down information correctly.
@Ari-lu5ve
@Ari-lu5ve 11 ай бұрын
for real
@M_SC
@M_SC 11 ай бұрын
@@tonyl7337he’s not dumb. Everyone would have been angry for him not being positive and hopeful
@Tech_Traveler
@Tech_Traveler 11 ай бұрын
Well let's not forget he is an amazing director and has a keen understanding of how to transform abstract concepts into visually and verbally captivating stories.
@KuntaKinteToby
@KuntaKinteToby Ай бұрын
People don't seem to know that Cameron isn't just a film-maker. He likes to push the limits of film technology. He's filmed at these depths and is still alive. He knows what he is talking about.
@Beebob-xw9xn
@Beebob-xw9xn 14 күн бұрын
He also piloted the submarine that filmed the real titanic
@kkmdew09
@kkmdew09 Ай бұрын
I also knew it was a charade as an aviation enthusiast, it’s the same for planes. If a plane were to suddenly disappear off radar and you lost communications with the plane at the same time, when that has happened in the past it is 99.999% of the time a complete loss of life and usually the plane either came apart mid air or flew into a mountain etc. The only time I can think of otherwise was when a plane had total systems failure, electronics, computers, hydraulics, the back up power, everything, and they were lucky to be over a big flat area of lane and have a great pilot on board able to coast it down and crash on a field with some injury to passengers but no fatalities.
@IreZico
@IreZico 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to James Cameron being real and not bullshitting how great this ceo and company was. He calling out how dangerous it was and why it shouldn’t have happened.
@OhShootKid
@OhShootKid 11 ай бұрын
I mean he’s doing it after all of this, give the man props if he did it earlier
@corypalmer5495
@corypalmer5495 11 ай бұрын
It's too late for him to speak about it now. It's too late, if he didn't trust it he should have said something earlier but he did not. Anyone can say how unsafe it was after the fact, once this tragedy has taken place.
@IreZico
@IreZico 11 ай бұрын
He wasn’t the only one the ceo was aware and knew how dangerous this was. But his greed and ignorance eventually cost him the sub and 4 other lives. Wether people spoke publicly doesn’t matter because it was spoke and informed to the company that it was not safe, people didn’t even enter it because it was unsafe while they were on the trip. So speaking out or not speaking out now it doesn’t matter. It’s a perfect example of greed and incompetence
@corypalmer5495
@corypalmer5495 11 ай бұрын
@@IreZico I agree it was nothing but greed that led to their demise. And now the company will suffer as well.
@franklinblunt69
@franklinblunt69 11 ай бұрын
JC & many in that exploration community did warn about the risks. Didn't you hear him talk about it?
@ImmaPandaRawr
@ImmaPandaRawr 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron is right about knowing immediately they were gone. The US Navy heard a sound consistent with an implosion around the time the sub lost contact. They weren’t monitoring the sub itself but just happened to be listening in that area. They let the Coast Guard know after it was reported that the sub was missing. The company also waited 8 hours to report. It’s very unlikely they didn’t know about the implosion. What they did in those 8 hours - that’s what I’d be interested in knowing. I think the entire search party knew it was gone but people don’t like to believe that without physical evidence. Especially family members. They would have demanded a search regardless, wanting to believe that there was still hope. So everyone kept quiet and just said they were searching. It was just they were searching for debris, not people. To be honest though, if it was my family, I’d have wanted a search too. Just for closure.
@paulwojtala6425
@paulwojtala6425 11 ай бұрын
During that eight hours they were probably hiding assets and preparing for the lawsuits
@_munkykok_
@_munkykok_ 11 ай бұрын
Never search for debris in an ongoing war situation. It only loses you time you need to save yourself. 🍀
@MeadeJ67
@MeadeJ67 11 ай бұрын
They have to confirm no matter what. It doesn't matter that they were just about 100% sure, they still needed to locate the debris field.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 11 ай бұрын
If it's any comfort. The CEO who said Safety was a waste was present in the Sub so yeah. He imploded as well
@mrsbluesky8415
@mrsbluesky8415 11 ай бұрын
Family want to know that everything that could be done was done. Nothing wrong w that at all. Miracles have happened and one can’t depend on someone’s assumptions when it comes to life & death.
@Holden308
@Holden308 2 ай бұрын
Stockton Rush put profit before safety, called it innovation and pardon the pun, but he paid the price. The really sad fact is that he took 4 people with him.
@stinkymart3173
@stinkymart3173 Ай бұрын
To be fair to Cameron, lots of people within the industry did speak up to Rush, and he ignored them and there was no regulatory body to hold him accountable. There probably will be going forward, now.
@rogerwilson6367
@rogerwilson6367 11 ай бұрын
As someone who had designed pressure vessels for 20 years, I can honestly say that the only 'safe' construction is a spherical one, Cylinder external pressure stresses are a function of its length which immediately adds another failure portal. I agree with Cameron on that point.
@AngelaMerici12
@AngelaMerici12 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. As soon as I saw the design I knew it imploded. And the materials part🤦‍♀️. I didn't know it was a composite of different things.
@user-wz2qe2pv6r
@user-wz2qe2pv6r 11 ай бұрын
@@AngelaMerici12 Composites are alright for anything non stress, but way too much of this stuff now finding its way into stress engineering...How long before those Boeings start falling outta the sky.
@conflict7269
@conflict7269 11 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber acts differently under certain circumstances all the other subs are steel
@richy69ify
@richy69ify 11 ай бұрын
@@conflict7269 steel military subs barely go to half these depths,
@christopherculler1390
@christopherculler1390 11 ай бұрын
I disagree. As someone who has stayed at a Holiday Inn, you are incorrect
@CWMalako91
@CWMalako91 11 ай бұрын
We live in a time where we get better news from James Cameron than general news agencies.
@js290
@js290 11 ай бұрын
news agencies for entertainment purposes only
@sharonbowman1266
@sharonbowman1266 11 ай бұрын
If you have ever had personal knowledge of a news story, then you know that they get a lot of the information wrong.
@leadfaun
@leadfaun 11 ай бұрын
He's obviously quite knowledgable about the subject.
@muslim9845
@muslim9845 11 ай бұрын
​@@sharonbowman1266they don't get it wrong, they know it's wrong, american media is a joke
@Teh_Random_Canadian
@Teh_Random_Canadian 11 ай бұрын
For real, you telling me the news couldn't source the researchers who owned the hydrophones and asked if there was any activity in that time frame? Pretty basic level reporting IMO. More likely a high stakes, clock ticking rescue operation was much more sensational to report on.
@SatoshiKenji
@SatoshiKenji 10 ай бұрын
It's really a horrible feeling. You got a gut that something might go wrong just from your knowledge, but you don't tell people because you know they'll not taking it seriously since you're not an expert. Then, it happened. I just hope that he didn't beat himself down because of that. I mean, they even fired that one guy who told then that the sub is not safe, so I'd imagine they'll just ignore his words.
@fa7234
@fa7234 11 ай бұрын
That fact that James knows about all these material science topics and the finite element modeling is mind blowing. The guy knows what's going on in his vehicle!
@-8l-924
@-8l-924 10 ай бұрын
was curious if you could speak to his point that finite element analysis can’t be done on non-contiguous materials?
@ko7577
@ko7577 10 ай бұрын
Which is really curious because he's a dropout who couldn't even get through an English degree program at a regional state university. It's almost as if he hangs around real experts who put in the work and then parrots their language. He's basically Rush except dumber. But with more money to pay for dives.
@certaindeed
@certaindeed 9 ай бұрын
@@-8l-924 Its been done...and for carbon fiber aircraft parts as well....and I've worked on it for truck and automotive components...and it can be done but the problem is the *manufacturing process* is not consistent and perfect so the the finite element analysis is not a perfect representation. They knew that and claimed they were going to use computer sensors to monitor defects and fatigue when the sub was is use...which is suicide. Honesty this submarine was a 1 off prototype manufactured in an open warehouse under varying conditions so the manufacturing and system defects in the final assembled product were unknown.
@certaindeed
@certaindeed 9 ай бұрын
@@ko7577 He is no expert. He just hired smart people an experts and he takes the credit....adopting the way it is done in Hollywood and the movie industry
@brettstewart420
@brettstewart420 11 ай бұрын
The guy that did speak up before the catastrophic implosion was sacked for doing so... If they had listened to him instead of sacking him then they may possibly still be here today
@daddyrabbit835
@daddyrabbit835 11 ай бұрын
He was white and not "inspirational"
@Musicienne-DAB1995
@Musicienne-DAB1995 11 ай бұрын
Not only sacked him, but accused him of non compliance and claimed he had divulged sensitive information... yet reached a financial settlement with him and did nothing to address the concerns.
@spanqueluv9er
@spanqueluv9er 11 ай бұрын
@@daddyrabbit835 You ignorant, leaking bag of expired mayo- Fuq all the way off.🖕🖕💩
@spanqueluv9er
@spanqueluv9er 11 ай бұрын
@@daddyrabbit835 No- YOU are white and not inspirational.💩
@SteveSmith-mu2fy
@SteveSmith-mu2fy 11 ай бұрын
This "search" was to cover the news cycles for a few days.
@db1777
@db1777 11 ай бұрын
As a professional nobody and certified couch enthusiast, I knew this mission was a no go and that their demise was a tragedy from the beginning. RIP.
@blu3_enjoy
@blu3_enjoy 11 ай бұрын
Same. That's why I personally chose not to go on the thing. Turns out I'm right again
@Dead-bl7to
@Dead-bl7to 11 ай бұрын
I’m going to come up with a contrarian viewpoint and speak in CAPS, stay tuned!
@dan79600
@dan79600 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Dead-bl7toI, for one, look forward to reading your contrarian view point in CAPS.
@lynnmahan154
@lynnmahan154 11 ай бұрын
I like your candidness. Salute❤
@lynnmahan154
@lynnmahan154 11 ай бұрын
​@@blu3_enjoy😅😅😅😅
@tonyuppal8956
@tonyuppal8956 17 күн бұрын
Cameron was absolutely 100% correct on Everything he stated. There were Red Flags raised but they were not acted upon. A horrible tragedy just waiting to happen.
@tsikinite
@tsikinite 10 ай бұрын
The irony of it sitting in pieces next to the sunken titanic. A true testament to the dangers of pushing forward even when danger arises. 100 years later, ignoring risks led to the same fate. RIP everyone onboard Titan Mission V.
@DrAdamAckerman
@DrAdamAckerman 11 ай бұрын
The CEO himself admitted he broke rules building the sub. Their waiver mentions death several times - including death due to extreme pressure. It also states the submersible is experimental, made using materials that aren't typically used for human occupied submersibles and hasn't been certified or approved by any regulatory body. There was information publicly available that it was basically a diy project and not safe.
@dougfredricks2017
@dougfredricks2017 10 ай бұрын
Played a stupid 🎮 Game and won a Stupid 🏆 prize
@ex-soldier4341
@ex-soldier4341 10 ай бұрын
does he have any accountability?
@IcedCub
@IcedCub 10 ай бұрын
​@@ex-soldier4341he's dead
@marcusclarkson2657
@marcusclarkson2657 10 ай бұрын
​@@deborahnicolethere are not many subs made that can do this it's not like there's some company manufacturing deep sea subs and you just get the catalog and order one. Every single craft, bathyscaphe or bathysphere that has gone anywhere near that deep is custom made. And the risk is the same. The words in the contract will be there for any company wanting to take tourists that deep, the danger is universal regardless. People are chiming in on this without ever knowing anything about deep sea exploration ever before.
@irionuchiha3823
@irionuchiha3823 10 ай бұрын
@@deborahnicole bc they are rare and the subs you might think of like the military ones i don't think even they can handle it
@walterscientist
@walterscientist 11 ай бұрын
Props to Jim Cameron for one of the best explanations of what went wrong and for saying it as it is.
@josepablolunasanchez1283
@josepablolunasanchez1283 11 ай бұрын
My respect to James Cameron. He is next to George Lucas as a director and pioneer. Lucas pioneered tech in a way that radically changed the way to make movies (sound, CGI, edition, etc). Cameron pioneered underwater exploration.
@diffened
@diffened 11 ай бұрын
Yes, that was an excellent explanation. Very clear.
@rp4712
@rp4712 11 ай бұрын
Cameron’s been heavily involved in deep sea exploration stuff. From memory he’s visited the Titanic site and gone to the deepest part of the sea
@reaganomicslamborghini2410
@reaganomicslamborghini2410 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is James Cameron!
@filmbuff2777
@filmbuff2777 11 ай бұрын
Cameron had an exhibition in Sydney a few years ago about his oceanic expeditions, which went into detail about the meticulous planning & designing for his submersible for his expedition to the Mariana Trench, & it was meticulously planned & designed for a reason. Stockton Rush was just caring about conning tourists out of money.
@nostoneunturned7641
@nostoneunturned7641 2 ай бұрын
Dude's spent more time exploring the Titanic than the captain spent being the captain.....dude knows what he's talking about.
@Peterkringle
@Peterkringle Ай бұрын
As an engineer working in material failures, he’s spot on… and has a better understand than many engineers in the actual field. Pleasantly surprised.
@Kataang101
@Kataang101 11 ай бұрын
Crazy how right he is about having two wrecks in the same place for the same reason. completely blows the mind.
@houndmother2398
@houndmother2398 11 ай бұрын
Both were lost due to a failure to adhere to safety regulations. Go figure.
@macbook802
@macbook802 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who comes out afterwards saying they knew what was going to happen should be charged with criminal negligence
@SagaciousFrank
@SagaciousFrank 11 ай бұрын
​@@macbook802, don't talk rubbish, there's no way Cameron could be held accountable for this, only someone with a warped logic could arrive at that conclusion.
@macbook802
@macbook802 11 ай бұрын
@@SagaciousFrank I knew you were going to say that
@SagaciousFrank
@SagaciousFrank 11 ай бұрын
@@macbook802 , how's that?
@Ministry_Of_Silly_Walks
@Ministry_Of_Silly_Walks 11 ай бұрын
I was actually relieved when I heard that the sub imploded. A far better way to go than slowly running out of air.
@hilarycraig5360
@hilarycraig5360 11 ай бұрын
Same, IMO a way better death than slowly knowing you're running out of air and slowly suffocating
@jaroslavpesek6642
@jaroslavpesek6642 11 ай бұрын
They would die in sleep. Much better then dieing when you know the walls around you are going to give away. They died in fear.
@cynthiabiel7714
@cynthiabiel7714 11 ай бұрын
I hope the time was so short that they had no time to realize..and be afraid..Especially the young man.The CEO may have known.
@bostonteaparty3926
@bostonteaparty3926 11 ай бұрын
That is true. Even though they would have fallen "asleep" - they would have been processing their demise and I think the inner torment would have been terrible.
@roachymart2318
@roachymart2318 11 ай бұрын
@@jaroslavpesek6642 At best there was a creak noise then the lights went out before they knew it. The only one who died in fear was probably the kid who was forced into it and was afraid before he even climbed in the thing as apparently he was the only one in there that had any sense. Implosion takes milliseconds and is too fast for us to process.
@evghb
@evghb Ай бұрын
Way to go @KZfaq. Fantastic work on that context. Really, really great job.
@baraxor
@baraxor Ай бұрын
Inner space is even more dangerous and unforgiving of mistakes than outer space.
@jessfrankel5212
@jessfrankel5212 11 ай бұрын
What bothers me most--outside of the needless loss of life--is the sheer willingness to overlook the flaws in the design, the lack of safety precautions, lack of reinforcement in the hull...it was an accident waiting to happen--and it did. What a terrible way to go.
@panchopistola8298
@panchopistola8298 11 ай бұрын
They did it to themselves . Who cares .
@firstnamepea7367
@firstnamepea7367 11 ай бұрын
Stockton Rush is so much like billy McFarland. For all the reasons you said. Arrogant and delusional.
@fakiirification
@fakiirification 11 ай бұрын
being a terrible way to go or not is up for debate. if they had time to anticipate the disaster, its horrible. if it was, as many experts say, a near instantaneous implosion, they were all torn apart into fish food flakes before their brains could process any pain signals or register what was happening. there one moment, eternal nothingness the next. Of all the ways to go out, that's probably one of the best. The only question is, did they hear the sub start making sounds as it approached failure, or not.
@BucktailResearch
@BucktailResearch 11 ай бұрын
@@fakiirification Wondered the same thing. Was there creaking or cracking long enough to panic? I would like to hear from people who have visited the titanic in this sub if there were ever warning noises of any kind.
@vitd5283
@vitd5283 11 ай бұрын
people die every day. these were billionaires going to do something exotic and signed a waiver because they knew the risks. worry about people in poverty dying, not billionaires
@suzanneflowers2230
@suzanneflowers2230 11 ай бұрын
My father was a welder who worked on subs. He x rayed welds and went on shakedown trips to help assess the quality of work done. He knew the navy depended on welders like him. I wish this group had taken safety even half as seriously.
@rrich52806
@rrich52806 11 ай бұрын
Lot of welds are done by robotics now days.
@anthonyharmon9265
@anthonyharmon9265 11 ай бұрын
Bet he is an old White guy too? The kind that keeps the world running....
@brandonloukota4760
@brandonloukota4760 11 ай бұрын
You still need to inspect robotic welds with X-ray or dye pen or something. Especially when it’s something like a submarine.
@kwanchan6745
@kwanchan6745 11 ай бұрын
sounds like these people actively refused to take advice from old hands they thought they knew better and were breaking new ground with their approach idiots
@bullyinspace
@bullyinspace 11 ай бұрын
Same. My dad was a welder. Man and boy. During 70/90s he was in Kuwait, North Sea and LA on all sorts of vessels
@vlee3880
@vlee3880 Ай бұрын
Best explanation of what really happened. Devastating and caused by rush’s narcism.
@RogerDominguez-de4hj
@RogerDominguez-de4hj 10 ай бұрын
This is why i truly respect james cameron.and in my opinion he is the best movie director around. He calculates everything and studies it before doing something.
@latticepoint5245
@latticepoint5245 11 ай бұрын
As an engineering major I’m impressed with his knowledge. He clearly takes underwater research extremely seriously. It’s too bad the operators/engineers behind the submersible didn’t listen to consultants like him
@BM-fz9yc
@BM-fz9yc 11 ай бұрын
I mean the man has made this dive 33 times. He probably learned a ton then.
@kandycandy1
@kandycandy1 11 ай бұрын
CEO was full of himself and didn’t want anyone’s help or expertise on it. The company should be 100 liable.
@TheStoicNurse
@TheStoicNurse 11 ай бұрын
As a youtube major i call BS
@after_midnight9592
@after_midnight9592 11 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber sounds cool, so they just blindly pushed on with it, despite people telling them it was not the best material for a sub.
@petermathews9298
@petermathews9298 11 ай бұрын
Well said
@Yennefer1173
@Yennefer1173 11 ай бұрын
This is so sad and the man who was fired has a lot of honor and courage. The people who fired him however have shown what cowards they are and how self serving and arrogant they are .
@hattiem.7966
@hattiem.7966 11 ай бұрын
Follow the $$.
@LAJIRAFA66_ALT
@LAJIRAFA66_ALT 11 ай бұрын
​@@hattiem.7966they'll probably lose out on alot more $$ now though tbh lol
@JonnyBravo-ky2mk
@JonnyBravo-ky2mk 11 ай бұрын
I would simply have taken a deep breath then Houdini out of the submarine, swim to safety while I held the sub with my other hand.
@doggychops7304
@doggychops7304 11 ай бұрын
Diversity hiring. He was replaced by inexperienced young girls
@BC-ny3zb
@BC-ny3zb 11 ай бұрын
​@@JonnyBravo-ky2mkAll the humiliation of copy pasting the same joke repeatedly, none of the payoff. 😂😂😂😂😂
@tybrockofficial
@tybrockofficial 10 ай бұрын
James Cameron doesn’t do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because the world needs people like James Cameron.
@6by6by6
@6by6by6 2 ай бұрын
He unknowingly did the world of submariner’s a favor by keeping silent about OceanGate, The loss of that sub and the horror of the passengers death will never be forgotten and likely killed the deep dive tourism business model for decades.. There’s no “Innocent victims” in this instance only foolish ones..
@ralphcantrell3214
@ralphcantrell3214 11 ай бұрын
My heart bleeds for the kid on board. I read that he didn't want to go. His dad's unusual sense of adventure and money killed him.
@SheResellsSeashells
@SheResellsSeashells 11 ай бұрын
My heart bleeds for his mother. Can you imagine her pain and possible guilt? Can you imagine her seeing and reading all that is over the internet? Seeing the countdown clocks? They should have told her days ago that he was gone and that he felt no pain.
@xeldinn86
@xeldinn86 11 ай бұрын
He is 19. An adult.
@damoncherry5649
@damoncherry5649 11 ай бұрын
@@xeldinn8619 is a child in most cases
@SheResellsSeashells
@SheResellsSeashells 11 ай бұрын
@@xeldinn86 my 19 yr old passed away...he was still my "kid".
@ionaskualexander1255
@ionaskualexander1255 11 ай бұрын
at 19 you're no kid
@Jaradis
@Jaradis 11 ай бұрын
As an Engineer, I really have a lot more respect for James Cameron after he started talking about things like FEA and all the other engineering terms. The guy really knows his stuff. I knew he did a lot of diving and things, I just never actually heard him discuss it at all.
@leerobbo92
@leerobbo92 11 ай бұрын
He's a world leading expert on deep sea diving. The first person to solo dive Challenger Deep. I guess it's part of the job.
@xxn0cturn3xx
@xxn0cturn3xx 11 ай бұрын
As an engineer i agree
@rafaliciousbmx
@rafaliciousbmx 11 ай бұрын
There's always someone with the "as a so and so" intro and it's so lame. Just word it into your well thought out comment instead of starting off with it!
@jasonz4545
@jasonz4545 11 ай бұрын
He's more than just a director of T100 and space aliens, this guy is gold.
@mlguy8376
@mlguy8376 11 ай бұрын
As a physicist I am glad we have practical people like engineers.
@rhiannonrede
@rhiannonrede 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Cameron, for all that you do & have done as an artist & as a scientist & a visionarary.
@camshaflober3691
@camshaflober3691 Ай бұрын
They say James has spent more time on Titanic than the captain had.
@anasshahid224
@anasshahid224 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron has done 33 dives to the titanic, along with documentaries on the ocean, he’s absolutely right, he has the right knowledge, Ocean Gate needed to get their submersible certified, heartbroken for the 5 passengers who lost their lives.
@xperiuscastello8613
@xperiuscastello8613 11 ай бұрын
4. One of them caused it all.
@Daniel-we7bx
@Daniel-we7bx 11 ай бұрын
Me repites ese numerin?
@libertas5005
@libertas5005 11 ай бұрын
Heartbroken for some rich fatasses you don't even know? You must be a better man than I am.
@loucorona2684
@loucorona2684 11 ай бұрын
He has been in the sub not building or piloting it he knows as much as I do after being in one for four years.
@Somedude20282
@Somedude20282 11 ай бұрын
@@loucorona2684Are you serious? James Cameron has over 30 successful dives to the Titanic and DESIGNED A SUBMERSIBLE HIMSELF.
@Steve-ou8nw
@Steve-ou8nw 11 ай бұрын
Just for reference, most military subs can't go below 4,000ft. And they are steel or titanium.
@sakamataRL
@sakamataRL 11 ай бұрын
Massive military subs and submersibles meant for going real deep like this aren’t exactly apples to apples comparisons, but either way composites should have never been a remote idea of any engineer involved
@pear-zq1uj
@pear-zq1uj 11 ай бұрын
and for reference, only 42 countries out of 195 countries own submarines and the global average submarine count is only THREE No wonder they cheaped out on it, submarines are expensive
@theboulder3355
@theboulder3355 11 ай бұрын
This isn’t really relevant because a sub is MASSIVE. The amount of air in a sub vs a little deep see sun is like 1000’s to 1
@downey2294
@downey2294 11 ай бұрын
@@pear-zq1uj i mean the cartel has these shity diy submarines. again this is comparing apples to oranges. this was not a military sub.
@louisavondart9178
@louisavondart9178 11 ай бұрын
Most are rated for only 1500ft. They usually operate at about 250ft. They'd implode at about 2500ft. Because they are tubular, not round.
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 16 күн бұрын
The US Navy knew too, they have hydrophones everywhere and if it happens in the Ocean, they hear it. But they're very, very secretive about that stuff. I suspected the search was a charade too.
@ishyandmikkischannel8811
@ishyandmikkischannel8811 10 ай бұрын
Straightforward. Spot on. Concise. With some high level research background in stress corrrosion cracking of metals used in special alloys used in reactors, everything he says is spot on.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 11 ай бұрын
2:25 I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE this admission of slight self-doubt by James Cameron, that we ALL feel at times, even when we are right: "I assumed somebody was smarter than me."
@eddard9442
@eddard9442 11 ай бұрын
So now this means no one is smarter than him
@berserkerpride
@berserkerpride 11 ай бұрын
@@eddard9442 He's certainly got more deep sea diving experience than almost anyone on the planet.
@QualityPen
@QualityPen 11 ай бұрын
This perfectly encapsulated the reason we recognize Appeal to Authority as a fallacy. Sometimes the authority can be wrong without knowing it, sometimes the authority can be willingly wrong and in denial, and sometimes the authority can just be plainly lying. Don’t just blindly trust “the experts,” first verify what they are doing or saying makes sense.
@Maxrepfitgm
@Maxrepfitgm 11 ай бұрын
​@@QualityPenthe appeal to the authority fallacy comes into play when the expert is in a different field. "I know a doctor so says the vaccine isn't safe!" Dr turns out to be a pediatrician and not a PHD in epidemiology or virology or the relevant field.
@132sudeep
@132sudeep 11 ай бұрын
He is correct by 100 percent. Composites subjected to uniform cyclic fatigue loads may just fail without any warning. When u don't have a plan B like in subs under water, it's just a catastrophe. Basic principles of mechanics was ignored by the ocean gate. Surprised how regulators had let them to operate these many years. RIP.
@Dereliction2
@Dereliction2 11 ай бұрын
They were operating in a way that allowed them to avoid regulation.
@hanyao8297
@hanyao8297 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Carbon Fiber also does not “yield” like steel/titanium showing any signs of failure to allow time to react. It simple snaps and you are done.
@klowen7778
@klowen7778 11 ай бұрын
"But, but... we've got four suckers willing to pay $250K each... a _Million_ bucks?!!"
@judgegrinch1139
@judgegrinch1139 11 ай бұрын
They didn’t pass any regulations they are considering experimental
@farzana6676
@farzana6676 11 ай бұрын
Can authorities regulate them in international waters? I thought authorities only have jurisdiction on their own sovereign territory.
@vicmclaglen1631
@vicmclaglen1631 Ай бұрын
I knew it too; sudden comms loss + no resurfacing = pretty clear. The historic parallels with the two wrecks lying in the same spot were immediately evident also.
@cheathunderwood
@cheathunderwood 10 ай бұрын
Agreed, well said. The second that communication was lost was the same time it imploded
@KekeeBlack
@KekeeBlack 11 ай бұрын
During the rescue charade many people were wondering where his voice was. There was a reason he was silent. Another sub expert I watched declared them dead a whole day before the media announced it. Anyone who knew anything about subs knew, but you can’t kill the morale of the rescue crews or else they won’t do their job as well.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 11 ай бұрын
But they’re not a rescue crew at that point. Why send people to search for a twisted wreckage when you already know they were killed before they could even register there was something wrong?
@johnnymatias3027
@johnnymatias3027 11 ай бұрын
The US Navy told the Coast Guard of the acoustic signals before the rescue began. The Coast Guard chose to continue anyway. Obvious the Coast Gaurd had access to the same data Cameron had and corroborated, they all knew everyone was dead long before the search began. Only media assumed they were alive because they didn't care to share any other story or corroborate with experts.
@scotti16ape
@scotti16ape 11 ай бұрын
​@@evilsharkey8954Suspecting something isn't the same as knowing something. You have to verify, even if you don't think there's much hope.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 11 ай бұрын
@@scotti16ape They didn’t tell the public about the loud bang that occurred when all signals went dead. They would still have to look to find the remains of the craft and retrieve it for analysis, but they could be more honest that they were almost certainly killed instantly.
@ceeedwards8453
@ceeedwards8453 11 ай бұрын
@@evilsharkey8954 oh the authorities knew they were dead...its just part of the formality...to prepare the families of the deceased..as well as locate any debris from the incident...which may give incite into what failed.
@deveshsingh9152
@deveshsingh9152 11 ай бұрын
"One wreck lying next to the other wreck for the same damn reason" quote of the century.
@My_trashtalking_account
@My_trashtalking_account 2 ай бұрын
For all the people who are saying "what makes James Cameron the expert?" He's manned 69 solo missions to the Andromeda galaxy in his own intergalactic cruiser that he designed. He dove under the ice of Europa, He's climbed Olympus Mons, and explored black holes. He's not JUST some movie director.
@Rottingboards
@Rottingboards 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the explanation.
@maddoxmortenson8009
@maddoxmortenson8009 11 ай бұрын
'Now there's one wreck lying next to the other wreck for the same damn reason.' So true. The fact that both disasters were the result of hubris leading to warnings being disregarded is an embarrassment for humanity. 111 years have gone by since the sinking of the Titanic and here we are again.
@thaddeusmarcuscheeleyjr.786
@thaddeusmarcuscheeleyjr.786 11 ай бұрын
Well, if idiocy is as constant a force as time, then I'm sure the people 111 years from now will be in for a doozy of a hat trick.
@gregory3499
@gregory3499 11 ай бұрын
I wasnt aware that the titan hit an iceberg.
@FurryQueenYT
@FurryQueenYT 11 ай бұрын
@@gregory3499 Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?
@opo3628
@opo3628 11 ай бұрын
@@gregory3499 - Not exactly the brightest crayon in the box, are you?
@gregory3499
@gregory3499 11 ай бұрын
@@opo3628 actually I do shine the brightest. While you are someone that eats crayons.
@daveyboy6932
@daveyboy6932 11 ай бұрын
Cameron wasn't the only one saying the sub was gone from Monday. Unfortunately it seemed obvious and the most logical outcome from what was known at that point. My heart goes out to those effected 💔
@coshannon
@coshannon 11 ай бұрын
Affected (in a nice way)
@taxidude
@taxidude 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree there was no hope in saving them but there would have been a public outcry had they not gone through the motions. People were actually posting prayers i spite of there not one single occurrence of the laws of nature being suspended.
@IncognitoSprax
@IncognitoSprax 11 ай бұрын
Everybody knew, but you know you still hold out hope just in case
@avalentin763
@avalentin763 11 ай бұрын
After it was confirm. Everyone is going to say they knew it.
@Brakdayton
@Brakdayton 11 ай бұрын
@@avalentin763the people who knew, knew. Experts knew. The billionaire idiot paid for it with his life and the lives of his passengers.
@jasonstaley7051
@jasonstaley7051 Ай бұрын
At that depth, the submarine imploded at the speed of 20ms. The brain takes roughly 15-20ms to process visual images from the eyes, 100-200ms to process auditory signals, and 100-150ms for the brain to process peripheral sensory signals (pain, touch, heat etc. There was no in between. One moment, they're trying to ascend due to an issue. Not even a fourth of a second later, gone. Nothing. So it's comforting to know that they went out painlessly, which is better considering all other things that could've gone wrong.
@davidebrownstl
@davidebrownstl Сағат бұрын
I've heard the radio traffic and they talked about a leak. "Dude, why do I have water dripping on my head?", "Dude, I don't know, that's dope!" "Bang!"
@JeremyDeBose
@JeremyDeBose 11 ай бұрын
Nearly a Masterclass in under 4 minutes. Explained in terms non-engineers can get. His explanation makes it suck even more how negligent the company was.
@Reyajh
@Reyajh 11 ай бұрын
Not just the company though... The rest for ignoring the glaring warnings and not doing their due diligence. These guys all, except maybe the poor kid, were living in a fairytale land.
@FlatulentTom
@FlatulentTom 11 ай бұрын
Well put!
@GXMBY
@GXMBY 11 ай бұрын
What shocks me and leaves me absolutely dumbfounded is the fact that I havent heard anything in regards to post-dive x-rays to log/monitor any micro/stress fracturing that could occur under pressure. I'm not an engineer, I don't build anything. I Have an interest in science and technology and that's it. These people are "professionals" with (I'm assuming) degrees in multiple areas of speciality, but for some reason their risk assessment (if there was one) gave the all clear to repeatedly cycle a pressurised container made out of composite material? I'm not qualified to assess the technology of deep sea diving equipment by any measure, but imo the level of malpractice here is crazy. I'm so confused as to how they even got this far.
@js290
@js290 11 ай бұрын
At least the CEO was exposed to the same risk as his passengers... unlike Boeing execs & their 737MAX
@WorldwideJamal
@WorldwideJamal 11 ай бұрын
Feynman Technique
@CreatingJason
@CreatingJason 11 ай бұрын
I found out that James Cameron has been down to the Titanic more than 30 times, has been down under to the deepest ocean on Earth (35,700 ft at Mariana Trench), and is a submersible designer himself. Apparently, he took Titanic seriously.
@pierreo33
@pierreo33 11 ай бұрын
In other news...
@MiniMatthew
@MiniMatthew 11 ай бұрын
Yes hence he is here talking about it...
@nomysweetsummerchild3984
@nomysweetsummerchild3984 11 ай бұрын
He's rich enough to not have to use a ramshackle tin can. We get it
@jeffcelis3024
@jeffcelis3024 11 ай бұрын
@@nomysweetsummerchild3984 so were the guys on this trip but they got conned
@MrBo0mBa
@MrBo0mBa 11 ай бұрын
@@nomysweetsummerchild3984 One of the guys in the Titan was a Billionaire...
@stansnegg5005
@stansnegg5005 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your expertise!
@blackiegohard
@blackiegohard 10 ай бұрын
Very informative and makes things understandable.
@applebeesbathroomguy
@applebeesbathroomguy 11 ай бұрын
When he said it’s one wreck laying next to the next wreck for the same damn reason man I felt that 😢😢😢
@kaycharlie352
@kaycharlie352 11 ай бұрын
😔😔😔😔😔
@LeroyWareTravels
@LeroyWareTravels 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤
@MrMaboboz
@MrMaboboz 10 ай бұрын
Oh you felt it did you.....
@sixxfixx666
@sixxfixx666 10 ай бұрын
Tissue for your issue?
@minhthach2747
@minhthach2747 10 ай бұрын
Is it wrong of me that I don't really care about some rich fks that died going to see the Titanic wreck? I got real world problems like paying bills like normal people. 👀👍💯💯💯💯💯
@franklinegbuche7097
@franklinegbuche7097 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron and his brother invented a camera in the 90s capable of operating deep underwater and used it to capture the Titanic footages we saw in the movie. He has been to the deepest part of the ocean. He has visited the Titanic wreckage 33 times. Man is an expert.
@freereign911
@freereign911 11 ай бұрын
Allegedly
@Troberts8910
@Troberts8910 11 ай бұрын
33 times....😂 Oh that magical number.
@stoneyswolf
@stoneyswolf 11 ай бұрын
Calm down sweetheart not everyone celebrates gay pride.
@Stagfire222
@Stagfire222 11 ай бұрын
@@Troberts8910 oy vey!shut it down goy!
@zogzog1063
@zogzog1063 11 ай бұрын
He denied visiting 33 times.
@WesleyB-Rook
@WesleyB-Rook 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, as grim as this sounds, it imploding that early on (basically immediately) is a MUCH better outcome for the passengers, instead of them suffering for several days, hopelessly lost in a cramped, claustrophobic nightmare, slowly suffocating with no food or water for days
@btetschner
@btetschner 10 ай бұрын
A+ video! Great explanation of what happened scientifically and behind the scenes.
@s.f.694
@s.f.694 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate his honesty about what happened because I think people deserve answers about what happened. Terrible tragedy. Thinking of the 19 old boy who thought he’s making his dad happy by going for Father’s Day 😥
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn 11 ай бұрын
Well, 19 is old enough to vote and to join the military and fight without any parent's permission.
@Goldenhawk583
@Goldenhawk583 11 ай бұрын
@@GilmerJohn Even at 19 you may want to make your parents happy though.. growing up doesnt remove that wish.
@teresarosier6453
@teresarosier6453 11 ай бұрын
Rip so sad and tragic my thoughts are with the families
@dericjames2018
@dericjames2018 11 ай бұрын
​@GilmerJohn He was still young you fool
@CadillacDriver
@CadillacDriver 11 ай бұрын
Lol no one is hiding anything.
@Nigelsmom2136
@Nigelsmom2136 11 ай бұрын
Mr. Cameron shouldn't feel any regret. The blame for the tragedy is firmly on Oceangate. For them to be so arrogant as to KNOWINGLY risk lives is unforgivable.
@ViciousAlienKlown
@ViciousAlienKlown 11 ай бұрын
They didn't listen to James Cameron because he's that "Old White guy that isn't inspiring".
@Nigelsmom2136
@Nigelsmom2136 11 ай бұрын
@ViciousAlienKlown Plus they couldn't hear him over the cha-ching of all the money they were making. Greedy bastards.
@kuroshirai9811
@kuroshirai9811 11 ай бұрын
Well, not like the company itself didnt suffer consequences from their own bad submarine, since it's CEO was on it
@ViciousAlienKlown
@ViciousAlienKlown 11 ай бұрын
@@kuroshirai9811 Yeah, hiring young people means they won't question the shoddy equipment and stay inspiring. I would respond to what you said but it's irrelevant.
@WhatsWrongWithTheStreet
@WhatsWrongWithTheStreet 11 ай бұрын
You hit it right: Arrogance.Look for video of the CEO saying he doesn't want a bunch of 50 year old White guys. He wants the young representational talent. So, he admittedly said for political causes, he chose inexperienced neophytes over experienced, veteran, proven talent. Just no old White guys, like himself.
@b.abrackus6403
@b.abrackus6403 10 ай бұрын
Well put 👍
@primovid
@primovid 10 ай бұрын
"Now there's one wreck lying next to the other wreck...for the same damn reason"
@ria-zul-zannah7100
@ria-zul-zannah7100 11 ай бұрын
No matter how bitter it sounds, Mr. Cameron was spitting facts here. *"Now there is one wreck line next to the other wreck for the same damn reason!"* Spot on!
@spanqueluv9er
@spanqueluv9er 11 ай бұрын
@ria-zul-zannah7100 ^*lying, not line ffs🙄🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤡
@azngf
@azngf 11 ай бұрын
@@spanqueluv9er lol, do you legit get so angry at a typo? that's a bit weak ngl.
@2adamast
@2adamast 11 ай бұрын
The Olympic liner did hundreds of ocean crossing, killed the Nentucket crew for bad reasons but besides that was perfectly untouched by _the same damn reason_
@Ometecuhtli
@Ometecuhtli 11 ай бұрын
And the captain of the Olympic who came closest to sinking her was.... you guessed it! Same damn reason Edward Smith!
@2adamast
@2adamast 11 ай бұрын
@@Ometecuhtli Captain Edward Smith with a clean sheet was rammed by a 8000 ton ramming cruiser, completely flattening the ram. The Royal Navy successfully played the frail victim. Maybe that live test made the captain more arrogant.
@zoranbl1990
@zoranbl1990 11 ай бұрын
James Cameron went to Mariana Trench alone and returned, from 11 kilometers. These five people went like 3,8 km down there and never returned. He went on the Titanic more than 30 times and every time was with no problems. Consultate with Mr. Cameron from now on please. Listen to his advices. Simple
@bryanb3352
@bryanb3352 11 ай бұрын
Cameron knows nothing.
@bauerdraws6163
@bauerdraws6163 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. What a senseless accident.
@zoem571
@zoem571 11 ай бұрын
One of the guys on the sub had also been down about 30 times
@trechtzach8151
@trechtzach8151 11 ай бұрын
Watch the interviews, the CEO said he did not want his employees listen ton "old white men" because they were "uninspiring", even if they were submarine vets. This is a lesson in hubris.
@gambar
@gambar 11 ай бұрын
@@bryanb3352 yeah... unlike you, huh.... dumbo
@joearnold5836
@joearnold5836 24 күн бұрын
In 1968 they knew a Soviet sub imploded in the middle of the Pacific through analyzing underwater acoustic data and that same data is how they located it. You're telling me over 50 years later with technology unfathomably more sensitive, intricate and advanced than what they had that located a sub 5KM beneath the ocean half a century ago that they didn't know the exact second that thing imploded?
@NoremacOktik
@NoremacOktik 22 күн бұрын
Same thing with the staged moon landings.
@hayabusa09
@hayabusa09 Ай бұрын
wish this was longer he was very informative
@DankNSpank
@DankNSpank 11 ай бұрын
No low key, self aggrandizing props behind him. Just straight facts. Respect.
@Walizen
@Walizen 11 ай бұрын
True
@LiveByDesign
@LiveByDesign 11 ай бұрын
This!
@emi62507
@emi62507 11 ай бұрын
As a materials scientist, materials engineer and mechanical engineer, Mr Cameron is absolutely right about composite materials. And I'm shocked to hear the company hadn't even been certified. We're all for innovation, but when it comes to human lives someone has to be held accountable. There is serious reform that needs to happen - this catastrophe, the Theranos saga are just a few instances where it seems authorities were dazzled by these entrepreneurs.
@Awakeningspirit20
@Awakeningspirit20 11 ай бұрын
That kind of scares me since I'm about to go into aerospace manufacturing engineering and one of the certificates is on composites... I hope this is just about undersea stuff and not planes!
@Gnomereginam
@Gnomereginam 11 ай бұрын
The Twilight saga and the Theranos saga should not have as many similarities as they do
@severusdeath
@severusdeath 11 ай бұрын
What shocks me is that you would think that’s these men who paid would have been smart enough to do some research. I’d imagine there are other companies that offer this service with proven and certified equipment. I know money doesn’t equal intelligence, but they were billionaires….
@Subpac_ww2
@Subpac_ww2 11 ай бұрын
With weight a constant concern for ships both surface and sub-surface one must wonder why the Navy doesn't make sub hulls out of carbon fiber, oh yea, cause it's a dumb idea. High tensile steel and titanium or bust.
@yahuahisking8179
@yahuahisking8179 11 ай бұрын
And same goes with the PLANdemic we were all put through
@tedd8055
@tedd8055 Ай бұрын
It was not a submarine. It was a submersible. Huge difference.
@JonnyJetson754
@JonnyJetson754 Ай бұрын
His shirt : 'THOR' - Titanic Has Our Respect
@schannie333
@schannie333 11 ай бұрын
This is comparable in many ways to the 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger with the solid rocket booster's "O" rings that engineers knew were not suitable for flight in cold environments. But they flew anyway because 'the show has to go on'. Richard Feynman's famous conclusion to his report on the Shuttle Challenger accident was: "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled."
@avwie132
@avwie132 11 ай бұрын
This is not comparable at all.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 11 ай бұрын
did you know - that all but one of the challenger astronauts have subsequently been employed buy the US in various universities and institutions?? There's even footage of the parents of one of the two women smiling as the rocket exploded.. don't quote me but I think it was Judith Resnik.. If you search hard enough you can find it all on line
@lc9902
@lc9902 11 ай бұрын
Nature can not be fooled, but people can and will be fooled. Until evil rules world!
@kenw.1112
@kenw.1112 11 ай бұрын
Exactly ... that is what I was thinking ! Greed, getting famous and rich does strange things to people ! History repeats itself . Some people just don't get it even when it is so obvious as the nose on your face!
@kenw.1112
@kenw.1112 11 ай бұрын
YES IT IS SIMILAR . SO OBVIOUS . SOME PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT .
@Tech_Traveler
@Tech_Traveler 11 ай бұрын
Spoken like a true story teller: "Now you have two wrecks in the same place for the same damn reason."
@brianmerritt5410
@brianmerritt5410 10 күн бұрын
James Cameron is more than a filmmaker, he's a major scientific leader who's team pioneered equipment that explored Titanic more than it had ever been. To be passionate enough about a film to conduct frontier research to get the shots right...
@realmstupid-on8df
@realmstupid-on8df 10 ай бұрын
They knew it imploded in hours. They said they didn't know if its parent ship was back at shore or on its way back. It wouldn't come back unless they knew the titan was gone. So why did they run a media circus for days?
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