He's avoiding Orc unit tierlist. GET HIM!

Babe wake up grubby is talking again

At this point, we need a tier list of the tier lists

Grubby flying around the screen to point at stuff gives me life

Grubby stalling on the Orc unit tier list because he knows he needs at least 4 hours to discuss it.

Goddamn Grubby leaving Orc unit ranking for last

These tierlists got me back into WC3 after...about 17 years lmao

I love weatherman Grubby. I could also listen to Grubby talk about WC3 history basically forever.

I havent played this game in like 15 years and I still have positive associations with Twisted Meadows

if only i had a way to show these ranking videos to my 2003-2004 self

I've been waiting for the Orc tier list and was a bit dissapointed when I see this video. But 15 minutes in, man this is even BETTER than a units tier list.

I think I remember the Moon vs Grubby game. And the other game vs Moon, 2008 in Cologne, I watched it live. I WAS THERE. Moon and Grubby started on the opposite side of the grid, so a finals with there two would theoretically be possible. And then, they both went to the finals. Going to the venue, I saw Grubby and Cassandra, both smiling but slightly tense. I held my "Grubby FTW" sign high during the match, and the night before I added "2004 2008" hoping for another Grubby championship.

damn it man.... I only have 60 min a day for watching videos of games i don't play anymore and now I gotta put 2 slots in for this? shiet. ok, I guess.

For those who are curious, the teammate that grubby is talking about is ToD. During 2006, Grubby and ToD quite surprisingly met each other quite often in the grandfinals despite being a teammate which may be the reason why he didn't want to practice with grubby.

I almost never comment but I love your channels! Also, we need an item tier list

Create a hero using abilities of the already existing heroes so that you create your ideal hero

“He lifted me and I felt more limbs than two” what did you mean by this grubby 😂

I humbly request a summonable units (from spells and items) tier list.

I haven't played in 20 years but this still of great interest to the little cluster of neurons i have buried in my brain somewhere. I love these talks while I'm on the bike or treadmill.

We need a tier list of neutral creeps!

Grubby restoring lost memories from my childhood

1:39:09 the Gnoll Wood rant 😁 thank you Grubby for vocalizing why I've always hated this map😂

These tier lists are great Grubby. I love the trips down memory lane of the history of the game, the meta and your experiences you touch on in these videos. I would love a dedicated video on the evolution of the meta and innovations in the competive space from 2002 onwards. You're such an innovator yourself you could discuss how and why you approached certain challenges, but also your experience and reaction to early pioneers such as Insomnia, DayFly and MaDFroG. Like at the start of this video you said that UD would rather race swap to Orc mirror on Maelstrom in 2004 and my question is why? I know this was a trend even on Lost Temple that UD would raceswap to avoid Orc, but what specifically about the matchup/map were they trying to avoid?

Listening to Grubby is making me want to play WC3 again, I wasn't very good but so many good memories of it, and it would be cool to learn NE properly haha

I think it's interesting/a bit of a shame that we had so few classic competitive maps that used different tilesets. WC3 has such a wide range of tilesets but between creep balance and just the fact that outlands, barrens, snow, etc. aren't as easy on the eyes, my memories of WC3 will always just be green.

1:51:22 My God Grubby! I love the way you express yourself! Hillarious! Love all of your content and I'm learning soo much that I had no idea about when it comes to Good 'Ol WC3!

Loved the acting, you are very good at enacting the murlock!. Lovely 2 hours of watch. I did not do it all in one go, but it's cool to come back to aswell and watch after I've played a certain map :)

Thank you so much sensei for those vids! Starting my journey with w3 and already learned a lot thanks to you

1:16:55 this was such an iconic moment. Was live in the crowd cheering for you :). Had never imagined you could really win this, always hoped, but moon was just that strong and night elf so much better than orc. You lost the first game and the second was on a knives edge, but hell you played so amazing. Khaldor screaming was the cherry on top, one of my favourite casters of all time. Seeing you at the end standing there with the durch flag around your shoulders and a pretty devastated moon. So long back in the past, how time flys by, I just recently started my study at this point in 2008 :).

Your shady merchant impersonation is on point, I almost wished I could buy those claws.

In addition to a tier list, a “map review” series would be incredible. Pointing things out for each race to look out for. Timings, particulars about the creep camps, and so forth.

I am not at all surprised that Turtle Rock is the longest segment in this video lol.. loved that rant. Those adjacent spawns were wild times.

I saw the title and thought "Twisted Meadows better be at the top", such a great map with so many dynamics and variety. Not surprised it's alone at the top, and interesting it's a 4-players map that has the #1 spot too

I didn't realize the new Echo Isles changed so much! I will have to give it a try.

One issue Grubby didn’t mention about TurtleRock was a lightning shield drop from the second spot on the default creeproute. That single drop was instantly turning HvH mirror into a terrible mess. You just LS your footmen into your opponents base and their peasants are just dead, especially on closer respawns. And everyone was aware about it. It was addressed later in patches, but while it was with us TR was a Russian roulette for human.

Man this is the best series you ever made. Keep the tier lists coming. 💪💪💪

This channel is exactly what I needed at work. Great job 👏

This will be a perfect accompaniment to my walk later. Thanks Grubbo!

This was so entertaining and nostalgic! Thanks Grubby. ❤

I am loving the tier lists!

Since a healing fountain heals ALL the units around it it also scales with the number of units being healed which evens itself out. During a fight near a healing fountain however high hp units have an advantage because of focus fire.

Its so cool learning about the marketplace. I never knew it worked that way.

52:20 is Grubby’s resident evil merchant impression and i love it

This is more of a Grubby rant in (almost) every single map and I'm enjoying it 🤣

Amazing job with this video especially having both the map + the name in the tier list!

These are fun to listen to while I am doing the dishes or cleaning. Thanks

I love this format. I never would have thought about a map tier list. But here it is. Very entertaining! I wish I knew it years ago when I was trying to join local competitive tournaments...

Loving all these tier lists! Can't wait for the items and creeps tier lists XD

The tier list era just keeps on giving

Grubby should do an entire video on why Twisted is the WC3 map GOAT.

grubby do you know the cheesy red creep spot strat with human archmage at lvl 1 on Last Refuge? You rush hero + shop buy two critters. Bring your critters in position next to the goldmine to block the melee creeps, but let a gap for your hero. pull the creeps with 1-2 units away. get your hero in position behind the goldmine and start casting blizzard on the range units until they die. the critters block the melee units from reaching your hero. this strat is really risky but really fun to pull of.

Man this was so entertaining as well as informative! It's so interesting to learn about all these strategies on the pro level. Are there any more maps that could be ranked haha But what about Rusty Creek, Tidehunters, Hammerfall etc?

Dude your passion and knowledge is heckin compelling, really appreciate the insight Grubby. I can't not learn something lol

Love this content :)

Man I love this analysis. When Grubby said one of his big passions is teaching, I totally see! Awesome insights!

I'm working on an Altered Melee map rn, and the amount of info in this vid is so much helpful for me especially the balancing aspect!

such a detailed tier list, at first I didn't think that it will be longer than 30 min vid... tbh never thought about all these map's specifics.. God I love this game.

Turtle Rock is my favorite map ever. It was very interesting to learn pro players perspective, and I get why some things are problematic, but for me there is nothing more fun than Turtle Rock. The fact that you could spawn right next to each other just added to fun for me. On the level I used to play nobody was doing militia rush or crazy stuff like that. But tower rush? All the time. And it was always fine with me.

I know it isnt a 1v1 map, but I loved back then to play "friends" as a 4v4. It had some issues with creep camps (because there are like no camps ;D), but still like the concept of having a mate directly nearby.

The moving finger pointer is absolutely amazing. I see Grubby tier list, I instantly stop working and watch in entirety.

You talking about gnoll wood and peon scouting brought back memories of similar frestration. I generally thumbs down maps I had to scout as orc, but if I played 2v2 with my brother, I would have to scout. Countless peons were sacrificed.

Impatiently waiting for orc tier list

That market place insight and creep camp item drop is some next level game knowledge. I'm not even playing the game anymore since 2014, but boy do I want to know more about it.

17:13 I love how you compare a good map the same way as how chess openings work, where you have options for sequential creeping routes and expansion (in Chess's case: positioning your pieces for strong area coverage) or harassing your opponents in an early rush which all depends on your play style! 😄

At first: "2 hour video sounds way too long" At the end: "WE WANT MORE!"

Nice video Grubb! But could u try next time open maps in editor and show everything inside? items, models ways and etc. would be so cool!

i love these tier lists. randomly fell into your channel after watching Artosis lose his mind after getting spanked by a 4pool. now I'm itching to replay wc3, which I haven't done since it was released.

We didn't know what competitive is but we considered the Lost Temple map to be king in our LAN cafe

These tier lists have gotten me and my bro back into WC3. I think these tier lists have been some of the most effective advertising WC3 has seen in a long time

shortest tier list ever but grubby could make it a 2 hour video.... Race tier list

THIS IS THE CONTENT WE WANT BABY!!

He really went all in into that tier list stuff :D

The Item Tier-List is gonna slap

Heh 😈- Word on the street is…Your opponent has been creeping claw of attack!… 🤜🏻🦀 🤣 beautifully delivered. S tier.

Turtle Rock also had the 3 archer solo creeping the big turtle strategy. Truely a broken map but super fun

Grubby strikes again!

Instead of the final race tier list, he should do a meta-shift tier list, detailing the largest shifts in multiplayer builds and counters due to major balance patches.

No matter the subject I love hearing someone passionate talking about things they are intimately familiar about.

I learned a lot about RTS in from this video that I was not aware when I played as a little kid. However, I'd put Turtle Rock in negative F tier.

i came here to check how the editor managed all the movement by grubby back there

Grubby if you're trying to delay the orc tier list maybe make a neutral unit/merc unit tier list

This is my favorite tier list so far. Especially like hearing the reasons why the map is balanced or not And the history of it

I would watch you, ranking wc3 stuff for days ❤

im doing weights in the gym and almost dropped them mid-set because i couldnt stop laughing at the marketplace joke 😂

I could watch a movie. Or I could listen to Grubby talk about maps for two hours. Grubby it is.

Awesome video!! :-) But what about Hammerfall, Tidehunters and Gloom Stalker?

I literally asked for this Honestly i wasnt expecing this,thank you man ❤

another tier list lets gooo

Nice, I had been wondering why creep pulling had changed!!

Never thought I'd hear "bad feng-shui" as a point of criticism against Warcraft 3 maps.

Grubby's tier list give me life

Surprised to see no Tidehunters on the list considering how much tournament play it's had and great games it's produced over the last few years.

Going out for a bike ride, but I think I'm going to PLAY WC3 all day because of you.😂

Whenever I play on the Last Refuge I have an irresistible urge to go full Annoying Warcraft 3. The overlooking hills are just asking for some cheese.

Thanks grubman.

51:45 what the heck, that part sounded like a 180IQ postdoc talking about his research into rotating black holes

God i enjoy you explaining stuff so much. I hope you start to rank StarCraft units and maps too❤

Hey Grubby please make a GrubbyTalks about different damage and armor types and maybe the most common units for each!, thank you for the content

Of course Grubby drops a map tier list while we’re all chomping at the bit waiting for the Orc (master race) tier list!

YO I GOT AN IDEA after you make the final Orc unit tier list maybe you can take all the races in one video and add to those tier lists the merc camp and goblin shop units?? And ofc talk about why and when to buy them and stuff :D Also it would be an awesome bait for anyone who didn't watch the previous tier list to go watch it :DD