I'm throwing My Black Pro Mist Filters In The Trash...

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@Sup90210 Жыл бұрын

For anyone who is interested; when Tiffen created Pro Mist filters they created the different strengths in order to provide a consistent level of filtration across the range of focal lengths because the filtration effect increases as the focal length of the lens becomes more telephoto. A 1/4 pro mist (black or white) will be much stronger on an 85mm lens than it will be on a 25mm lens. A common formula for using Pro Mist filters is 1/2 for 18mm and wider, the 1/4 for 25-35mm and 1/8 for 50mm and above. This principle applies to all diffusion filters. I hope this information is useful.

@legacyautofocus Жыл бұрын

I got a cpl from tiffen and it was trash. I gave off some weird glare.. Now I'm bias with tiffen products. I use k&f concept, never been let down.

@jonnynoakes9070 Жыл бұрын

Super useful!! 🎉🎉🎉❤

@i.shuuya3231 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! I remember knowing this info years ago and now, when I needed it, I forgot so you saved me 😆

@superultragiggachigga Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this! As a beginner I didn’t know any of this.

@SorrowScavenger Жыл бұрын

Helps a lot! Thank you so much!

@producer55 Жыл бұрын

Great advice! Its cool to share your trials and experiences with the community. I do agree its easy to get caught up in a particular piece of gear and not realize that your over using it when you don't need too.

@herfinnur-filmmaking4326 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve started playing around with Texture Pop in Davinci Resolve Studio, and I find that I can get that analog softness by increasing fine details while decreasing the coarser detail sliders

@bluefilmsltd Жыл бұрын

The real thing is always better

@AlecKinnear 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this tip. I was wondering about the best way to soften iPhone and very sharp mirrorless footage. I've played around with radial blur and motion blur with some success but this sounds better. I do something similar with photos in DxO PhotoLab: increase fine contrast to 20 while lowering microcontrast about 10 or 15.

@thebunn 2 жыл бұрын

Smoothest ad transition EVER! Excellent video and topic as usual. Forever thankful for your sharing of your wisdom. Longtime viewer, rarely comment. Stoked for the next one!

@MateenManek 2 жыл бұрын

I relate to this so much! I bought a Pro Mist a year or so ago and used it as a leave-on filter, and really didn’t like how some of my shots came out. So I stopped using it. It gives you a look, and you have to decide whether that look is what you’re going for with your film. I ended up selling the BPM and picking up a Glimmer Glass filter, as I like that it blooms highlights without being too hazy, and gives a nice skin polish. But also, that tip on warmer light on brown skin tones is clutch!!!! I always wondered why my lighting didn’t always look amazing - definitely gotta try this now!

@captaincarl1603 Жыл бұрын

That's what you young people get for ditching the old hot-lights. Nothing beats a well diffused 3200K tungsten for face close-ups. Get your gloves on 😅

@hitthestreetsphoto1253 4 ай бұрын

@@captaincarl1603 Exactly. They like going from gimmick to gimmick trying to emulate someone else’s work and can’t quite slow down enough to learn about light.

@JonathanPalfrey 2 жыл бұрын

So glad you made this video. I think a lot of new filmmakers don’t realise the importance to shoot a clean, sharp image especially for a client. After all it’s the whole reason we shoot log or Raw so we have flexibility in post. Using these filters is fine for personal projects or were your client/director has a clear understanding of the style and feel they are going for, however that’s unfortunately rarely the case.

@IAMLXGEND 2 жыл бұрын

I still use my Pro Mist on everything, lol. I want my overall style to look dreamy. There are some times where I need the absolute most sharpness so I’ll take it off but that’s few and far between. I love that thing.

@AfoteyAnnum 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@joshuawheeler8743 Жыл бұрын

have you tried out the tiffen glimmerglass filters? i’m abt to get one and heard it gives a more subtle softness and a little more contrast

@ElayneOkaya Жыл бұрын

Which one specifically do you use please?

@francisenaje Жыл бұрын

What is your pro mist? 1/4?

@IAMLXGEND Жыл бұрын

@@francisenaje 1/2

@OtayMedia 2 жыл бұрын

Been starting to take off my diffusion filter more too. I regained an appreciation for the images my camera produces and I’ve been liking the extra flexibility I have in post by being able fully shape my images instead having a baked in look all the time. Filters do tend to degrade some important sharpness and add too much halation and ghosting to my images. So it’s been refreshing to pull back on using diffusion filters and seeing what my camera can do without baking in a look.

@charliemcgrain Жыл бұрын

Great point and totally agreed. You can add all of this stuff in post and have way more control over the degree of any filtering.

@quickpickle 2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%.. and with the high quality of effects out there, you can easily add bloomand softness and it looks great.

@Aaron_Smith_OM 2 жыл бұрын

Cooper is so dope. Biggest thing I learned from him is to go out and tell your story. Watching is one way to learn, but doing takes your learning to a whole other level and adds the 2 beneficial "E's" - Execution and Experience. YC, I appreciate you cap'n! Now off to writing this screenplay!

@SumonBose 2 жыл бұрын

Always love your videos, I am stuck in the same loop using the pro-mist filter all the time - Its so hard to get rid of it though. Love your videos ❤️🤟🏽

@XxLuke117xX 2 жыл бұрын

Love that this video turned into me learning and seeing another awesome artist. As always, thanks for sharing and awesome video man.

@ErikPelyukhno 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this channel a lot. You not only describe things in detail in an entertaining way, but you show really good examples as you’re talking about something so it’s super clear what you mean. Notifications ON

@Malick333 2 жыл бұрын

You kinda forgot to mention that a lot of the “look” depends yeah on the camera/sensor BUT ALSO the lenses you’re using. Some lenses are crazy sharp, some aren’t. So the same diffusion on the same camera but on different lenses will look different. Big difference of course between a Canon FD and an RF.

@dathofilms 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts, RED sensor with some crazy sharp clinical sigma art lenses would definately benefit from Promist, but not Arri with some vintage glass on it There is time and place for everything.

@ihknilsen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great video! I'm not a video guy, I just shoot stills. You brought out some really great points and I really enjoyed the way in which you presented them. Now I want to check out more of your videos! You just picked up a subscriber!

@Chase-Video 2 жыл бұрын

I used to use Black Pro-Mist 1/4 all the time but man, the bloom was way over-the-top sometimes. I switched to Pro-Mist 1/8, which is an improvement but I still go back and forth on whether or not I like the look (I think it’s the low contrast that bugs me now). I heard that Hollywood Black Magic filters give a similar look but with better contrast, so I’m gonna look into getting a set.

@_MJ07_ 2 жыл бұрын

Its like everything, these things are just tools. Sometimes we get a new tool and we think its cool, so we use it for everything. This is what happened when gimbals came out, I'd go out and see people standing still holding their camera on a gimbal instead of just using a tripod.. Not every tool is for every purpose. You don't use a screwdriver as a hammer. Know when and why you're using what you are using.

@Kevinmadefilms 2 жыл бұрын

Breaks my heart when I see wedding videographers use a gimbal all day, no tripod in sight. Tripods are an absolute necessity for a ceremony, especially if you want multiple angles without hiring assistants

@NathanKatash 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevinmadefilms gimble is a very usefull tool in 2022 and if you know how to really get the best out of it in wedding then for sure most of the time you will use it

@RyanREAX 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kevinmadefilms youre supposed to use multiple cameras. 1 on tripod and 1 on gimbal

@ajphelps16 2 жыл бұрын

@@RyanREAX use whatever works

@400hdfilms4 2 жыл бұрын

@@ajphelps16 I smoke weed when i shoot my music videos I feel like i am the tripod and the gimbal lol

@keithnisbet Жыл бұрын

Wow what a clever transition into your Artist Ad. So smooth.👍🤗

@alpiasker 2 жыл бұрын

Not a lot of people here on KZfaq admits their mistake and shows real improvement. Thank you for sharing your experience

@HagaishiSama 2 жыл бұрын

I use them for certain situations but not all the time. Just like I don't shoot all my footage in slow mo, just when needed when I want a particular look or feel. Great video as always bro keep doing your thing

@ShotByCurt 2 жыл бұрын

Pro mist is definitely fire! And the tungsten/warmer I picked up on that just recently

@obiwanmartyn 11 ай бұрын

the 1/8 is subtle enough but if you want to dial it back even more while retaining some contrast in the image too the tiffen glimmerglass gives nice halation with a bit of blooming - not as intense as the pro mist

@MarioSoMedia 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I have definitely regretted using my mist filter on some videos I shouldn't have used it with.

@Matt.Gillard 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Be intentional! Also I've loved following CooperFilms, he has a way of capturing the soul of his subjects in a way I wish I could. I don't know him, but I bet his communication style wis his talents would be something we could all get value from!

@scottievee7467 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I literally went thru this yesterday. My bad. I should have tested more. It was the 4th time covering a car giveaway. I normally shoot all RF but I tried a Sigma 24-70 2.8 with a 1/4 Pro mist. When I got home and started editing I was shocked. Soft... slow to focus. Thank God I shot enough in focus B-roll to cut into the really obvious flubs. Pro Mist out and the Sigma will only be used on set shots with minimal movement. This is shop on. Never start dull. Start sharp and work backwards if that's the look you want.

@tptrsn Жыл бұрын

Such a helpful video, thank you!!

@anthonypc1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You persuaded me with these good points.

@giddyeffects 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this info. Never used a mist filter was intending to get one but think after this will use the budget elsewhere. Interesting observation about warmer lighting on dark skin tones. My guess is that is could be a psychological thing, in that we are used to seen ourselves under lots of sun... Where I come from the sun hits us hard

@ShevonSalmon 2 жыл бұрын

That ad was smooth asf

@rodrigoabreusantos 2 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome, bro! Loved the opportunity to edit one of your videos. Learned a lot just from that. Congrats to Shane! Beautiful edit bro!

@Collective-ss1zt 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats Shane! Exciting to see you a part of the YC team!

@MVPMoneyB 2 жыл бұрын

Amen!🙏🏼 💯

@HiFocusedCinematography 2 жыл бұрын

Love it! How do you do the bloom in post? Is there a simple drop in effect?

@kreative7135 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome and thanks for all the info

@magicari 2 жыл бұрын

love you bro but the random plant is distracting.

@RandomMotoThings 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly you probably needed it for previous cameras as your current camera has a naturally slight softer image. C200 also has a softer image. Cameras like gh5, Panasonic S series, canon r5 and 6 are more digital/sharper. I don’t necessarily think you were doing anything wrong outside of using them on your more recent camera (c70 and c200?)

@GuyThomsonVideography 2 жыл бұрын

I think the 1/8 is pretty subtle I've not had a shoot yet where it's been too extreme or ruined any shots. The benefits outweigh the cons for the work I do. The 1/4 is definitely more obvious, stylistic and should be used deliberately.

@OfentseMwaseFilms 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@the180degreerule3 2 жыл бұрын

Glimmerglass is the one, try it

@GuyThomsonVideography 2 жыл бұрын

@@the180degreerule3 Cheers I'll check it out 👍

@the180degreerule3 2 жыл бұрын

@@GuyThomsonVideography enjoy!

@truchotpierre8070 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@senalirving 2 жыл бұрын

I use to use it for every photo shoot but now I use it intentionally. For certain vibes and lighting conditions, it works perfectly. so I agree with you!.

@jimmynguyen4361 2 жыл бұрын

That's a bad habit of mine. I love my pro mist and use it on everything instead of as needed lol. Definitely getting shots without that filter now, after using it for so long, you realize how unnecessary having it on the lens was in some shots. That was also a smooth sponsor transition haha

@TheSickPollo 2 жыл бұрын

Love seeing how much you’ve grown as an artist. I must admit, I too was tempted on using the pro mist look for every shoot. Question? How do you achieve the bloom highlights in post?

@pieceofwork014 Жыл бұрын

You can achieve some decent looking bloom using the 'Halation' effect in Davinci Resolve Studio. Hope this helps.

@Dubb2D Жыл бұрын

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@MichaelBouhnikProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Hi great vid ! how did u pull up the bloom in post instead oof the filter?

@wardwilliams8087 2 жыл бұрын

This video could also related to buying gear in general. I learn to be intentional with the gear I have over the years lol. Also, congrats Shayne! I had fun with this edit and YC, I hope we could work together someday you a true inspiration.

@zamarinwahdat740 Жыл бұрын

thanks for this! I honestly was overusing it aswell for a couple of shorts since I got so excited! In the end the shorts did well and the director liked it but when i watched the footage I just did not like how the camera drew so much attention to itself! So thanks! Using it intentional and with care is the key!

@Joshuuwaah 2 жыл бұрын

I would be super interested to see your process in post to create the Pro Mist look.. I was going to purchase a Pro Mist one day.. Hoping too.. but if you can create this cinematic look in post.. I’m down with that 😁

@EddiksonPena 2 жыл бұрын

Diggin the foreground effect .. different .. I like it

@DRAMAFLS_official 2 жыл бұрын

It really depend on the project used it on my last music video and I loved it but it doesn’t fit on 14-24 sigma art 😟 what do I do when a project require this lens 🧐

@Jwallsmedia 2 жыл бұрын

Man I was doing this too, had to realize it has its place, and it’s mostly in my low light work, or if I’m going for vintage look. I was doing the same thing though throwing it on every shot

@petergoulet4794 2 жыл бұрын

I liked the content of you explaining the inspiration that another artist gave you. Could be an interesting series digesting other artist content and explaining what you got out of it.

@photo2000 21 күн бұрын

excellent video! baking in something to media has a host of disadvantages. Thanks for highlighting this.

@BenPhanStudios Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah bro! I'd love to see how you do it in post. Thanks!

@he.smile_ 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear how Morgan Cooper inspired a lot of us lol Also nice ad and outro 👍🏾

@hendrixg Жыл бұрын

Great advice and awesome content!

@alexamickey 2 жыл бұрын

Great video boss! Man, I'm feeling the same way. Started using it for EVERYTHING about a year ago. Recently started noticing that I see this look everywhere now. As soon as I see many videos I'm like "oh they've got a promist on this." It's starting to stand out to my eye more than I'd like. And then when I see super sharp images without filters (even my own), now I'm like "wow! that looks so good!" lol. Also, I recently got hired for a gig where I was shooting both photo and video. I had the promist on the whole time. I loved the video still, but the photos looked terrible. Just not sharp enough (and post sharpness didn't help that much) and even my client noticed. Made a huge mistake there. But now I've learned haha. Also, now that I've gotten more into color grading in davinci, I'm learning that it's pretty easy to replicate the bloom and dreamy look in post. Why not just have the option to turn off and on rather than being stuck? I'm with you here. Thanks for this dope video

@Liljoozy 10 ай бұрын

How do you recreate?

@zimmhone 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I watched Cooper Films in the beginning with his pocket cinema camera. Waay before he went t red and delisted his early stuff. I remember thinking - yeah, maybe I should invest in good lights first. He bought drecast lights before he upgraded to red. Very particular as you said. I wish I had that clarity of vision he had. But I think directors just wither have that or they don't. I just care more about entrepreneurship and producing than I like actually looking through a lens or adjusting lights. But I took some of that clarity to my business development - steady, slow, build upon each success...

@mediasmithsllc3052 2 жыл бұрын

HUGE CONGRATS to @Shayne Borden on earning the opportunity to to edit for YC. Looking forward to seeing more of your work (already subscribed to your channel) and always looking forward to seeing more of your content YC. Great video and as it's been said, what someone else does may not always fit your style. But take what works and implement it into your own style and make it your own. How's the saying go: "Good artists borrow, but great artists steal." =)

@marcusoutdoors4999 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting comments on managing skin tone… made me think of a few things I’d like to try out

@keyadade 2 жыл бұрын

The way you added that commercial in was super smooth. I almost didn’t notice it was an ad

@shaunmaddox Жыл бұрын

Sounds like someone has graduated to the next level. You are a very talented young brother. Trust your gut!

@hugocalvovisuals Жыл бұрын

Thank you for drilling that into our heads. Intentionality is key.

@wilcurran3377 Жыл бұрын

Coop's a boss. I've got a tab in my browser permanently reserved for one of this short films.

@GDoggProductions 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video 😅😅😅😅 I was feeling the exact same with my promist lol it just lived on the front of my lens but like you said, sometimes the footage looks too dreamy 😅 ....sooo I think now, I'll only use it for nightclubs and scenes with a lot of light but daytime, no more promist lens

@Scriptshepherd 2 жыл бұрын

Haha I just ordered mine a few days ago after a year of putting it off. Great timing

@rawmediapaul Жыл бұрын

Appreciate this video!! Honest feedback when trying to determine to shoot in camera or add in post!

@garrisoncollier 2 жыл бұрын

also anytime i’m filming anything i be on set telling people this is how ycimaging does it so this what we doing hahaha so i can really relate to doing what cooper’s doing lol

@TonyXOriginalz Жыл бұрын

Immediately subbed! Thanks for the advice

@kuunami 2 жыл бұрын

5:26 That shot with the blunt in his mouth made me laugh for some reason.

@portraitblake 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely feel this. Definitely screwed a couple shots doing. Someone just asked me about these filters and now “I say I don’t do any paid work with these filters anymore”.

@tre.portrays 2 жыл бұрын

That outro had me crackin up 😂

@KevinLe 2 жыл бұрын

OK. Funny enough. I thought you were promoting some new gear, but you actually spoke to a problem i found in a recent job. I found that i didn't really like having the BMP in all my shots. Even in some situations where i was shooting towards windows and my highlights became way to bloomed and it really made the image too diffused. Then when i went into post i found that i could actually diffuse and add blooming to my shots lol. So to your point, just like any other tool, there's a time and place for it but it doesn't need to be all the time. Thanks for this!

@troywalt4834 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, how do you diffuse and add blooming on post, I am curious? 😉

@K1ddoh 2 жыл бұрын

Bro that transition 👏🏽😂

2 жыл бұрын

I had a similar reason to switch to the ronin 4d ... i often used handheld shots not because it was my intention but because of lack of time and that is never a cool thing imo ... when it comes to pro mist ... there are sooo good diffusion filters from red giant, and others and they look amazing ... that is why i stopped using mist filters ...

@AdrianLoganLive 2 жыл бұрын

tutorial on adding the promist-like features in post?

@mandy 2 жыл бұрын

Can I recommend the Smoque range or check out Tiffens larger range? Theres a lot that takes the "edge" off but doing over halation around the main subject. The smoques are amazing as for shoots where you cant use much haze, it can add to that atmosphere - perfect for me wit sensitive fire alarm issues or outside. I saw Valentina Vee link out the DOP of Mrs Masiel who uses them in a pinch and THATS what I feel I was missing. I have also been using star filters more to have interesting interactions with light in music videos and beauty ads, without experiencing over-halation around my subjects I have yet to play with the Tiffen pearlescent, soft and satin ranges, but keen.

@dna8269 2 жыл бұрын

Are the smoques really that good? The images online just look like someone lifted the blacks way too much lol

@TreW9808 2 жыл бұрын

I just switched to the tiffen glimmerglass 1 filter and like it more than the black pro mist because it’s way more subtle. I would love to try a smoque filter one day because a few projects I like have used it to get their look

@PaulMDiaz 9 ай бұрын

Man, I hit like on this video, based on how well you dropped in that sponsor placement! LOL! Good video!

@abas1r Жыл бұрын

Man I love your work, could you do a video of how you got the misty look in post please 🙏🏾

@chrisezamora 2 жыл бұрын

great content! can you show us how you add bloom and some of those characteristics in post?

@decarlismadison369 2 жыл бұрын

Very well put

@jzvitendo 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you sneaked in Artlist in it just felt like partner the conversation 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

@jolyoncox 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chrystopher. Would you consider making a follow-up video with your workflow in post to achieve the same effect? I, for one, am here for it! Cheers.

@Elemino 2 жыл бұрын

Just going to throw you a like for how smooth you slid into that ad spot.

@SimeonKolev 2 жыл бұрын

I create the mist filter in premiere pro, but I am not able to do this in Lightroom for stills and since I hate losing time going in photoshop for every frame - I bought mist and glimmerglass for stills.

@DANAMIONLINE 2 жыл бұрын

Good point about intentionality.

@ShotByChuka 2 жыл бұрын

YC imaging is me and I am YCimaging. I feel exactly the same way. I've been hesitant to get the pro mist filters because of the same reasons you mentioned in the video. Like why should I use the filter when I can add the effect in post. Granted, the results may not be as good as when you use the filter but baking the effects straight into the camera and not being able to remove it later on in post if needed is even worse. A lot of people say they use pro mist filter to shoot everything and I'm like, I actually prefer the way most footage come out straight out of camera without the Pro mist filter. All in all, its a specialty filter just like you said. To be used only when needed and not for all shoots.

@verifiedccp6064 Ай бұрын

Do you advice me buying the pro mist or do it in post

@Marco-zp7nb 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks you. Please, how do you do this cool photos with white frames? Can you please describe. It looks so good.

@leedonohue 2 жыл бұрын

bro i feel you, i put mine away as well and invested in glimmer glass. it has that "film-like" look without being as overbearing as the promist

@TreW9808 2 жыл бұрын

I just switched to the glimmerglass 1 filter a few months ago and even though I haven’t gotten to use it much it looks so much better than my black pro mist which I plan to give away soon.

@geebes2112 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a tutorial on how to create the look in post?

@akshayanthayaparan6805 2 жыл бұрын

welp, lost the editing challenge. congrats to the editor who won!

@fishingreelpictures 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and great tip, for softer images I tend to lean towards glass with a softer look or vintage lens. For the pro mist look depends on the nature of the project and if it’s needed.

@SkinnyWasHere 2 жыл бұрын

love this and shout out to Morgan. Got a chance to meet him during the premiere of Bel AIr, he's solid. I'm a fan.

@tythebelieveguy4228 2 жыл бұрын

That freestyle tho 😂😂😂

@calahad 2 жыл бұрын

Every creator 2 years ago: OMFG, get a pro mist filter, super analog feel! Moment's cinebloom is even better! Every creator these days: Lol the hype is over. Diffusion filters are trash.

@tmoon1351 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos, I never got the PRO.M in the end maybe because of what you said now you said it and it changes strength with the f-stop and becomes hard to handle that way

@AKGreen 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the Digital Diffusion FX filters? They cut out the sharpness without blooming the highlights.

@codythep 2 жыл бұрын

How do you make the ProMist effect in post?!

@ntchi 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting topic. Hard to "ruin" a shot with an 1/8 BPM 1/4 is more obvious. Plugins are cool but not similar to real light photon going through a glass filter. Just like an analog compressor sound better than those dsp plug-in. Close but not the same. 80% I'd say. Most of these glow filters are based on luminance level and thresholds on a flat 2D image. A real filters has photons hitting the glass from all angles creating subtle organic bloom before getting baked-in. It's a look.

@erlvng Жыл бұрын

Yes, it happens. I watch a lot of KZfaq videos, and some people say they use it in everything they shoot. Then other people who would say use it when it is necessary. The yellow filters do wonders for darker skin tones. Keep shooting, and don't stop experimenting

@ikonmediafilms 2 жыл бұрын

I felt just lke You man! I didn't use Black Pro-Mist though cause they are a lil heavier than Schneider HW filters (i do have a Tiffen black satin 1 filter though). I shot everything on those filters ; 1/8, 1/4/, 1/2, and then I was having issues correcting some of the footage until I go some SLR magic Lenses and decided one day to go without the filters and Mayne! that lens wide open is a dream! so the camera and the lens were shining through nicely and I got way more confident. I still wanted to shoot with my diffusion filters but i knew something was off when I was looking at what i was getting vs other DP's with the same setup. I went back to the foundations of physics concerning light refraction (Cinematography is very much practical Physics and art being BFFs) and BAM! it hit me like a tonne of bricks. There are two things to consider: 1. Screw on Filters become a part of the grouping of the lens elements and that will change the character of the lens. I bought a 3 stage matte box with hard Mattes and got square versions of all my filters (it did cost me quite a bit) and while I love a lot of what I did before... what I'm doing now makes me really confident in my abilities. The image changed nicely, my flares were coming through and not washing out the image every time direct light hits it. 2. diffusion is caused by tiny dots on the filters and each of those dots becomes like an LED when the light hits it so your lens and camera will bloom. my advice, go down to your lowest strength diffusion or just take it out when shooting towards highlights.

@joshuachubbphotography 2 жыл бұрын

I was in the same boat bro. Using it for a lot of stuff and I ended up using when I shouldn’t have. It def goes back to being intentional. I probably use them now like %15 of the time.