Director: "put these yellow contact lens in" Christopher Lee: "no" The end

Hey, HEY, Count Dooku was absolutely a nobleman; he's literally a count. Now, he's not a noble man- but he's absolutely a nobleman.

Count Dooku strikes me as a kind of "What if Gandalf got the One Ring?" He'd be the "virtuous tyrant" which ends up being even worse than a robber baron.

I always thought the reason he didn't allow the "Sith eyes" to come through (even when it wouldn't matter like in front of just Anakin and Obi-Wan on the Invisible Hand) was because of his vanity. He cared too much about his status, appearance, and noble bearing and wouldn't want anything to mar that

Don't forget on Mustafar, when Anakin was slaying the Separtist leaders he had Sith eyes. When he met with Padme, he had blue eyes.

EchkhartsLadder: "My normal calm had been compromised."

Villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who cloak themselves in the ideas of good deeds are well camouflaged . Picard

In fairness, in the Geonisian scene, Dooku also reveals the identity of his master (the one trying to consolidate the power) and asks Obi-Wan to help overthrow him. That may very well be an extension of the Sith rule of two, but that doesn't necessarily mean Dooku would have been the kind of Sith that Palpatine was if he took that power. Even the cinematography hints at this - while Obi-Wan is suspended in holographic light during the scene, Dooku walks around him through the light and darkness of the chamber. Even at the time he suggested this, he was probably straddling both sides. That's further reflected in his purposeful choice to avoid killing Obi-Wan (who refused to ever help him) and Anakin (who he hated), which he could have easily done, later in the same movie. Whether or not Dooku gets a metaphorical 'pass' for that is another discussion, but on the topic of Sith eyes, I think Dooku's portrayal was an accurate reflection of the nature of his affiliation with the dark side. Dooku never gave into the darkness because that isn't what he wanted. His personal philosophy had nothing to do with the force. The dark side was just "power" with which to pursue a controversial political ideal that contrasted the Jedi order. Except Dooku in Clone Wars. No clue what was happening there.

“Practical dark side user” sounds like something that an in universe journalist from the Star Wars galaxy would try and describe him as when trying to deny the return of the sith haha

I always assumed that Sith eyes glowed yellow in moments of passion, rage, spite, sadness. Moments when they’re channeling the dark side. Dooku always has a reserved, calculated disposition, so while his motives are undoubtedly evil after his turn, he never really loses composure (likely from his Jedi training). This in my head is what makes him such an effective duelist aswell, he can sow seeds of doubt in almost any Jedi he encounters, put them off their game and ruthlessly pick apart their defence without getting emotional

TLDR: "Turned to the dark side Dooku has. Lies, deceit, greed, and mistrust are his ways now."

you neglect to mention that another reason dooku stayed with sidious was because he felt stuck and trapped with him after all that he had already done, that was why when he first met kenobi on geonosis he told him “i wish qui gon were here i could really use his help” many viewers saw this as dooku thinking qui gon would join his side but what dooku really means is that he needs qui gons help to get him out of the trouble he is in, to help free him from the trap he got himself into, he knew that qui gon would be the only person who understands him

This is exactly what made Tyranus FAR more dangerous than Maul or Vader ever were. The same thing that made Sidious so dangerous. He could hide his evil behind a kind and paternal face. He could appear noble and friendly, the confidante and confederate you would trust to put in major positions of power. The danger you wouldn't recognize until it revealed itself. In that way Tyranus was more Sith than Maul or Vader because he embodied as Sidious did, the extreme danger of the hidden betrayal from within, the very nature of the Darkside.

Count Dooku was built different. *SIGNATURE SUPERIORITY*

I agree with almost everything in this video, except for saying that he didn’t care about Qui Gons death only that he lost an ally. His reaction in tale of the Jedi seems genuine and I don’t see why he’d be getting sentimental about the tree otherwise

The yellow eyes are from liver failure possibly due to stress and binging on alcoholic beverages.

It's true that when Dooku first left the order, it was to "better the galaxy". But the darkness corrupts all; Dooku not excluded. At the start of the clone wars, he still tried acting like he was a gentleman good guy, but he was already up to doing very terrible deeds. As the clone wars went on, he just got more and more openly evil. The only soft spot Dooku seemed to have left was Obi Wan.

Dooku is such a fucking chad he just chose not to, doesnt need them to seem cool. Nothing to do with anything else, its just not a good idea to have burning yellow eyes as a politician

I’ve always been intrigued by Grievous’s line in “Revenge of the Sith” about how he was trained in the “Jedi arts” by Count Dooku. I’m trying to imagine Christopher Lee patiently training a sadistic four-armed robot how to fight with a lightsaber, and I can’t. 😂

I think the reason Dooku didn't have yellow Sith eyes because he had too much control over his emotions. He used them, drew power from them, as Sith teaching directed him to, but he never lost himself to them. You dont find Dooku cackling like a madman or screaming in fury, for instance, his fury is cold and directed, what joy he shows or feels is subtle and limited, he doesn't allow his emotions to manifest in over-the-top outbursts but channels them and uses for his own ends. Palpatine was the same for most of the prequels. He was subtle and controlled, and manipulative, and it wasn't until his plans came to fruition with Order 66 that he let that facade drop and became the cackling supervillian tyrant he always dreamed he would become. Until he basked in the full power of his emotions and let the dark side flow freely and unrestrained through his body he didn't have yellow eyes either.

“Focus on your power building. Do not think of anyone or anything else.” This advice from Dooku while training Savage pretty much sums up what Darth Tyrannus was really all about in the end.

EckhartsLadder: "I don't think you can shoot force lightning and not be a Sith" Rey Palpatine: * Sweats nervously *

Star Trek has a character with a similar misconception: Gul Dukat. A Cardassian warlord who was an active participant in slavery and genocide, who defends himself by declaring that he's not a bad person because he could have been worse. Like Dooku, people see the mask first and like that version of the character. However it is in the end just that: a mask. In the end, it just shows that characters like Dooku and Dukat are very well written, that like in universe, that mask does its job in convincing people to believe the lie.

Even though it's not supported by the movies or the extended universe, I've always liked this theory. It helps to flesh out the CIS, which is a really under explored faction, especially in the TV shows. That combined with how Dooku in the Clone Wars TV show is basically just a one-dimensional villain (Which I find very uninteresting) is why I think so many people want Dooku to be this idealist. Because it makes him and the CIS so much more interesting. I really enjoy Christopher Lee's performance in the prequels. I just wish they hadn't departed so much from that version of the character in other media.

He gets yellow eyes in the TCW cartoon Dooku has a public persona just like Palpatine. Dooku is an aristocrat, former jedi, and leader in the separatist cause. Then he has his other side, Darth -Turannis- Tyranus

I think the trap that some fans and even writers - of anything - is that when a villain is so cool like Dooku is, people start to LIKE them and then project motives that paint htem as more sympathetic. They can't reconcile liking the character for how they are portrayed and not agreeing with that character. When this creeps into writers, it usually ruins a good villain.

I think this misunderstanding of Dooku stems from the audiance wanting him to be a deeper more morally grey character then Lucas actually wrote him as. In the films Dooku just like Maul, Grevious and Boba Fett are all disposable mooks that get completly inadaquate development other then hype which they then don't life up to in their inevitable defeats at the hands of the heros. Many fans is script-doctoring the prequels see that Dooku should have been handled differently, it's simply redundant to have a second Palpatine, but a tragicly manipulated figure that acts to foreshadown Anakin IS clever. It's like how everyone clearly saw that Maul 'should' have survived his fight with ObiWan and then come back with robot legs to have a final grudge match with Obiwan, (and that the Tartakovsky Grevious was infinitely better then asmatic incompetent in the Movies). But while the Clone Wars and then Rebels beutifully deliverd for Maul, they double down on the original cartoonishly evil almost Stalinist Dooku.

*Ecks:* "I don't think anyone who's not a Sith can shoot Force Lightning..." *Kyle Katarn:* "Hello there!"

People have always been really excited about the idea of a dark side force user not being outright evil. That's why so many people love the concept of 'grey jedi'.

While everything you say is correct, it's also important to note that Dooku's time as a Jedi was not a facade. He had good intentions, and did care for other people, which of course led him to the Dark Side. But the distinction I make is that he does not seem to draw his power from rage, or any sort of personal vendetta, but exasperation. For all of his noble stature and grandeur, he remains powerless to enact the change he wanted, and doubly so to resist the change *others* want. He has to watch himself age past his prime, past the opportunity to attain actual, unadulterated power. In the same way that Anakin was watching in agony while he allowed himself to succumb to the succour of the Dark Side, and the seduction of Palpatine. I think there's a very potent comparison to be made there; both of them, disciples of Palpatine, twisted beyond their intentions, and whether unwilling or unable to, still abide by him. They both meet their end in a throne room, with untold masses of their allies dying behind, with Palpatine sitting in the throne. Only, Vader's failure was met with the forgiveness of his son, where Dooku had no such sympathy. There is the recurring theme of Star Wars; violence, and hate, only destroy those who wield it. When Anakin cuts off Dooku's head, he has stepped over the event horizon of the Dark Side, leading to his death, spiritually and physically. Conversely, when Palpatine sees Luke's persistent "good," he hurls lightning at him in rage, only to meet his end because of it, through Vader; not from rage, but for love. Was Dooku a good person at the time of his death? No; neither was Anakin. But that isn't the point; Dooku was forced into an untenable situation with the state of the galaxy, with his goals. He wanted to enact radical change to offset radical flaws, however in that drive for change, he allowed his emotions to guide his hand, which gave way to the Dark Side, which gave way to Sidious. The Dark Side clouded his mind, and he lacked the body, will, or time to resist. *TL;DR: Dooku stands as the middling contrast to Vader; both caped lords, yet no more than pawns, to be used and discarded, unable to escape the Dark Side- or Palpatine- without help, that for Dooku, never came.*

Hes like gortash in bg3. Makes sense, darth tyrannus, and gortash, the chosen of Bane the god of tyranny. Tyrants are often charismatic and deceptive

There’s a misconception that evil looks like a ravenous beast in truth evil clothes itself in beauty to draw us in. - some guy on the internet.

2:40 Dooku giving a nice electric massage.

I honestly think Dooku should get like his own 5 episode arc set during the clone wars would be sick

Yes I agree. Dooku was always in control of himself. Extremely disciplined and able to control and suppress his yellow Sith eye color.

As with most things in Star Wars, it's a matter if interpretation. If the baseline are the movies, then we need to consider them first. But then, the question already becomes: do we believe Dooku's idealistic claims or not? And going on from there will shape how his character is portrayed and understood. You can't really work backwards to the movies to understand his motivations there. His character was made there first, every other interpretation came after.

0:21 "I recently saw an article from CBR..." Me: ah, there's your problem right there.

I agree with this video. Like darth maul was tortured and trained extremely harshly, so of course he had nothing to hide when it came to being a sith. Maybe dooku had doubts about the dark side, which was why he told obi wan he wished qui gon was around. Not for another sith, but for someone to give him a balanced perspective.

The one thing that contradicts dooku wanting to rule the galaxy with palpatine was that he was plotting to overthrow palpatine the whole time he was his apprentice. However, he was still wanting to rule the Galaxy just not with palpatine.

"I don't think anyone who's not a sith can shoot force lightning" ooo throwing shade at the sequel trilogy for once, love it.

This is actually funny now that I think about it more, he is literally like Saruman in looks and motivation

just like how Eck pointed out the evidence for when Dooku's eyes flash yellow, there is one scene in Season 4 episode 19 when Mother Talzin is torturing Dooku, in the scene where they're talking and he says at 18:40-ish "And let you and that traitor continue plotting against me?! NEVER!" that scene to me is the biggest supporting evidence for their existence

I don't understand how people can be fans of Star Wars and ignore that every villain is a Saturday morning cartoon...

It's funny (one might even say: ironic) that the thing which makes him so evil/dangerous (his noble fassade) deceives so many into thinking he's actually not that evil or not even a Sith

the intro will never get old

This is how I used to think, until I remembered that Jacen Solo had Sith Eyes, and he was trying to do the right thing in a similar vein to Dooku

I always loved that description of dooku hating aliens cause it's so beautifully ironic, leading a faction of *mostly* aliens who were tired of the corrupt and humanocentric Republic. It really reinforced that Darth Tyranus and his public facade of Count Dooku were opposites in every way.

I think people get fooled into thinking dooku had a noble goal because of Christopher Lee's great performance as the sith

I was not expecting a character study of Dooku when I clicked on this video, but it was awesome! Also, to clarify, in the Clone Wars, they retconned Grievous' origin to where he gradually upgraded himself with cybernetics to make himself the "perfect warrior." Honestly, more badass and metal (pun intended) than the accident origin. Also also, so close to a million, LET'S GOOOO!!!

Dooku was so convincing that even with his inner most thoughts PUBLISHED he still fools people to this day. Fantastic character and an even more fantastic actor who portrayed him.

The final comment about non Sith not being able to shoot Force lightning is refuted in Legends. Luke Skywalker called upon that power during the Dark Nest Crisis. It's taboo among Jedi and discouraged, but it's not impossible for them to use it.

I watch 10+ youtubers daily/whenever they upload and you are the only one whose outro I watch fully. Never lose that outro! Your vids are also good :)

I think the yellow eyes is the Sith tapping into the Dark Side of the force. It shows off its corruption via eyes. My only evidence is during the Mustafar Scene, Anakin didn't have his sith eyes when he was confronted with Padme but they they reappeared during his fight with Obi Wan

Plot twist: Sith just wear special contacts and Palpatine didn't want to share with Dooku. This is my headcanon

plo koon could use force lightning. granted it was yellow and weaker than the force lightning we see dooku use, but he could still use it.

Dooku: Chops off Anakin's arm Also Dooku: Doesn't like Anakin for having robotic arms 8:25 😂

you put it the best way. "lost in the sauce"

We need a tv series with a separatist pov.

Dooku MAY have started with good intentions when he left the Order, but after a decade as Palpatine's apprentice (the start of The Clone Wars) he was already fully embracing the Dark side.

I always thought that they simply never pissed him off enough for him to lose his temper to that level

"Anyone not a Sith can't shoot Force Lightning"? Eck, Joruus C'baoth, Jerec, Gethzerion, Desann, Tavion, and Kadann would like a word...

Well said Eck! Dooku remains one of the most interesting characters to me, how could someone so advanced in the Jedi order fall so far so fast?

From my understanding he lacked yellow eyes because of how reserved he was ever in control of his emotions he refused to drown in the dark side, this however prevented him from being able to draw upon its ability to help preserve power which is one reason he was weaker in Revenge of the Sith, Dooku was a self-denial sith he thought he could use dark side powers and not get addicted or warped and he just kept refusing to admit even to himself thats what happened.

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -Harvey Dent. This quote is Dooku in a nutshell. As he clearly had a code and lines he didn’t want to cross but at the same time committed actions with sadistic glee. Thing is, there may have been a chance that at the very end, just before his decapitation, he himself realized this.

I hate the concept of using the dark-side “practically.” The idea that you can dip into absolute power and somehow avoid letting it corrupt you absolutely. It’s like thinking you’re strong enough to wield Sauron’s ring from LOTR.

I would say that in the movies it is well covered up but if you watch Clone Wars you are able to see how much of a monster he is the four off the top of my head is when he betrays Ventress, has Savage kill the king, authorizes the use of the Defoliator Tank the and him during the slaver arc. I am reading Yoda Dark Rendezvous and Dooku at the start seems to fit in with him not being full dark side but I have not finished the book yet and am only about a quarter of the way through.

The hilarity of his mask being so good that actual real people are confused as to whether or not he's "really" a Sith despite everything he does is not lost on me.

It's crazy how dooku can have his best friend and SISTER the only family he had left killed and not feel any remorse is crazy...the man had no soul. But felt bad about qui gon jinn death💀🤣

How do Sith Lords come up with names? Is there a book of appropriate sith names or is darth bob ok?

I also wanted to bring Lana Beniko into the conversation: she’s a Sith Lady and is very loyal to the Sith Empire, but is pragmatic and kind-hearted enough to ally with Jedi to save the galaxy from overwhelming threats.

Great video as always and good luck on getting to that million mark. Been watching your vids for a long time, you deserve it.

Plo Koon could use Force Lightning. It was yellow though and it was called “Electric Justice”.

I have a new theory. Just hear me out. I think Count Dooku somehow survived Revenge of the Sith, and end up as Saruman the White from Lord of the Rings.

Title made me think it was a jab to Star Wars Theory.

"I'm tired of this dumbass theory." then proceeds to lay out his own theory with its own lore issues (in the Disney and Lucas canon regarding force lightning). Definitely needed to put a bit more thought into this one homie.

Lets not forget he lied to create grevious, decapitated yaddle, killed sifo dyas, and countless jedi ... That man is not a nobleman

5:20 Ventress wasn’t a Sith, she was a former Jedi Padawan turned assassin, who was trained in the dark side. It’s the equivalent of calling the inquisitors Sith. There can only be 2 Sith at a time, a master and an appearance. Ventress yearned to become a Sith, but as long as Dooku and Palpatine were in the picture, she would never become one. This is why Palpatine had Dooku try and kill her.

Just like with Anakin, Dooku assumed he could work with Palpatine long enough that they would take over the galaxy, and then he would betray him and have the power to make the galaxy however he envisioned it ought to be. He didn't realize or perhaps he didn't care that this made him a Sith, but even if he succeeded he would have just been a Sith by any other name, even if he didn't call himself one.

Maybe if Dooku, the villain of a movie, had any of his motivations explored in the movies and we didn’t need to read sources from two different universes, people would get this correct. In the movies, it’s not clear if Dooku and Palpatine support the confederacy or the republic more. The confederacy only dies when Dooku dies, which he obviously didn’t expect.

Sith eyes to me show that a user is channeling the dark side, it really is that simple. Dooku only channeled it when needed, he wasnt always angry, manipulative or vengeful like Maul or even Palpatine. Force ghost Anakin in Ahsoka showcases this perfectly. He can literally turn them on and off when he likes, he is fully in control of channeling the dark side while not being consumed by it.

#AskEck I've had the idea for a little while now that Lucasfilm should pursue adapting George Lucas's sequel treatments in comic form and getting Lucas himself to consult on it. This may sound like an out-there idea but Lucas was clearly unhappy that the story of his sequels was never told, he's had a life long love of comic books as a medium and even though he's retired, he's always been happy to consult on projects whenever Lucasfilm have asked him to (Solo, The Mandalorian, Dial of Destiny, etc). For Lucasfilm's part, they're fine with producing non canonical content like Visions and the rumored 'What if?' series. Marvel Comics has also just announced they'll be publishing 'What if?' Alien comics and Dark Horse recently published a comic adaption of one of James Cameron's old drafts for an Avatar sequel, so I don't see why Lucasfilm can't get either company to give Star Wars the same treatment. It could even be nice way to celebrate the upcoming 10 year anniversary of the beginning of the sequel trilogy, taking a look at what it could have been. So, what are your thoughts on this? Do you think it's an idea Lucasfilm should pursue?

Okay, first, Dooku basically wanted to become The God-Emperor of Mankind, considering his xenophobic views on non-humans; or, in Star Wars terms, he basically wanted to be Contispex XX, head of a new Pius Dea/Sith Empire. Second, 9:04-9:06; Non-Sith can't shoot lightning? Dude, Plo Koon, and Kyle Katarn did just that in Legends. Luke Skywalker himself even did it once in Legends.

He actually called himself Darth Tyranus because he identified as a dinosaur

Count Dooku didn't name himself Darth Tyranus. Palpatine refers to him as "Lord Tyranus" without even the Darth title. In the movies Dooku is a double agent btw. He tells Obi-Wan there's a sith lord corrupting the Republic. Why tell him this, unless he's hoping to recruit him? It's only when Obi-Wan disbelieves him and refuses to join him that he leaves him chained up and has him executed. So the reason Dooku doesn't get the yellow eyes is that he never embraced the Dark Side the same way Darth Maul and Anakin did. Of course, he's playing into Palpatine's hands either way

Eyes turn yellow when the sith is losing control to the dark side. Jedi willingly surrender to the force and as a result learn to master themselves, done right they end up like Qui-Gon Sith do the opposite, they try to control the force and end up becoming enslaved by it and their dark emotions. They THINK they're in control because they're blinded into only wanting what the dark side wants. Dooku was already a master Jedi when he turned, his fighting style is all about controlled precise movements. He never got yellow eyes because he never lost control to the dark side of the force, he just used it as a tool. Unlike say Anakin who crossed into despair and committed himself to the dark side as a "everything is gone to hell anyway I'll do whatever if it saves padme" and ten minutes later has yellow eyes and seemingly a whole different persona because he's now lost himself.

Eck has chosen violence 😂

Star wars theorists: "dooku wasn't hateful, he's composed and wants to do the right thing!" Also theorists: "force lighting is channeled by focusing malice!"

At least, Dooku built the Autobahn.

I'm greatly entertained by your recent approach of vulgar ranting in your video titles.

I think the generous interpretation of Dooku comes from his stories in Tales of the Jedi, where his fall to the Sith is portrayed more as him losing faith in the Jedi than wanting to rule.

I love how in episode 2, Count Dooku actually told Obi Wan the truth about there being a dark Sith Lord behind everything, but knew that Obi Wan would not believe him. It showed how blinded the Jedi were at that point and also how easily they could be manipulated.

You got it right IMO. Sith Eyes come when a Sith Gives in or loses themselves to the power of the Dark Side. Dave Filoni shows this wonderfully in his animations. In particularly in Rebels when he has Ahsoka face off with Vader in the Sith Temple. When he is acting like Anakin his eyes are of Anakin's, but as soon as he gives over to his hatred, the Sith eyes Return. Dooku was pensive and meticulous man. Rare was it for him to give over to his anger, but when he did his already incredible power only grew exponentially. So Dooku used his emotions to fuel his power, but he never lost himself to either his emotions, or his power.

One thing I always loved about Doku is that unlike most Sith he isn’t completely running on urge for power and emotions. Not letting his feeling control his actions. for the most part he’s able to keep a level head and patients until he’s guaranteed victory is when his power and sadistic nature is revealed

I disagree, Dooku’s story is a faustian tale about a man who lost himself to the devil for the promise of a better galaxy. Deep down Dooku does have good intentions but he uses them to justify the the atrocities he has committed because they came from Sidious’s command. He is an extreme utilitarian believing that the best utility comes from completely destroying everything and building it anew. Yet as he grows deeper into Sidious plans he becomes fully enveloped by his desire for power that his idea of the greater good becomes a faint voice in his head. Also Dooku in the ROTS novelization that you cite literally has Dooku view Obi-won as a grandson. He still has the capacity for good. Yoda almost turned him back to the light towards the end of the war.

Most of what you’re referring to was only added later to dilute and streamline the canon When prequels aired he totally was doing his own thing and thought he could use Palpatine He shared the fate of the Grey Jedi It was decided that the light side is purely good and the dark is purely evil and so everything that previously wasn’t unambiguous was made so with newer novels comic books and animated series Most people did not see a Sith in him so atrocities were added to the canon to reinvent the context of his dealings in the prequels You are right that he is evil but he is so due to the corruption and derailment of the Star Wars franchise not because he necessarily had to be

"I also don't think that anyone who's not a sith can shoot force fightning" Kyle Katarn: "I'm just a guy with a lightsaber"

Calling Dooku an asshole is the best description of him.

Please do more tactics and structures like the cis navy structure and ranks

Sith eyes are present when the Sith feels passion. Anakin didn’t have Sith eyes when he stormed the temple because he wasn’t enjoying it or doing it because he wanted to. He had Sith eyes when killing the separatist leaders because he truly hated them and took pleasure from killing them.

I have no problem with the idea that Dooku did bad things believing himself the good guy, just as, in scenes with Obi-Wan, he lied using the truth.