He has a music degree from the University of Montana :)

J. K. Simmons was so terrifying in this role. It's truly one of the best Oscar wins of the past 20 years imo.

Bwahahahaha! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! … you serious?

As much as I love his performance, I personally feel that Ethan Hawke in BOYHOOD deserved to at least tie with him. His story arc in the movie incredible to be honest, and the fact that the movie was actually shot over 12 years actually helped here.

Especially when he was playing main character.

I didn't realize it was him at first in Baldurs Gate 3, he f'n nailed that role too

crazy how he can go to beeing one of the most despicable characters ever to the most lovable person ever

Why didn’t yell for more pictures of spider-man?

At the end, Neimann has basically turned into Fletcher.

@@Renoistic No, Neiman has turned into a Charlie Parker calibre of virtuoso. Fletcher is Jo Jones.

Are you serious? This is like one of the best films I've ever seen

i bet that's why Neiman met with a car crash stopping his debut.

@@Mark_yet_again The script was finalized months earlier so I doubt that they're actually connected

19 days is fucking bonkers for a movie this dense. If you've ever done filming, it can take a whole day just to get 2 minutes of finished film; damn impressive rehearsal and planning.

@@samwallaceart288 speaking of efficiency in filming, Sidney Lumet, Clint Eastwood, and Steven Spielberg were/are all champions of that. It still boggles my mind how Lumet made SERPICO and Spielberg made WAR OF THE WORLDS and especially MUNICH back-to-back, all with such insanely tight schedules and short filming-to-theatrical release windows. To give perspective, SERPICO began filming in July 1973 (with Lumet being hired right before filming start as a last minute replacement) and released in December that year; filming start to release for WAR OF THE WORLDS spanned 7 months, and MUNICH began filming on June 29, 2005 (the same day WAR OF THE WORLDS released) and released on Christmas Day 2005. This was done in the era without digital cameras too!

Gaslightiiiiing

Oh dang I didn’t catch that 😮

No he wasn't. He was definitely rushing.

@@jasminmujezinovic324he was on tempo before, but fletcher telling him he was dragging a little or rushing a little pressured him into actually being off.

@@jasminmujezinovic324not quite my tempo

When you strive for your teacher's approval over your father's.

Actually that was the last time he played drums, he was at peace. He got with the girl, made his father a granddad and they all go on camping trips every year

You're over thinking it

​@@matta2738 How? It's a completely valid reading of the film. Just because it's not outright ex0lained to the audience doesn't mean someone's "reaching." Media literacy these days, man.

@@thenewinquisition2392 That would be nice but in truth he will burn himself out trying to push himself harder and harder until he dies by his early 30s from a drug overdose. What is worse is Neiman thinks that is a good thing because Fletcher manipulated him into believing so and his father is watching this knowing he has lost his son to this.

And in case anyone is wondering, I went from first chair to never playing again. I was amazing but I hated it.

Thank you for sharing! It’s crazy how common this experience is.

@@Forev3rYoung1947 Yep. Music school made me stop playing for years. They absolutely destroyed my love of music and I had to get it back on my own. Worst part is that everything I learned about playing and theory I could have learned on my own from books, which I came back to on my own, later in life. I learned a lot about myself, but it absolutely destroyed my creative spark for many years.

Terrible leadership. Sorry you went through this.

​@@NatalieGoldReactsI just got to the part where you plug your streaming live stream channel, I don't know if you noticed but you're a thumbnail became a meme for Elden ring. I forget where I saw it but someone took the thumbnail and said something like " average first from soft players game" I thought to myself " hey I know that Creator"

I saw an analysis that compares this movie to Black Swan, and now I can't unsee it.

Disagree. Andrew has arrived

​@@user-oq9mv8pc2g I think both

@@user-oq9mv8pc2g Agreed. They both won. Andrew wanted this from the beginning. His entire goal was to be a great drummer that everyone knows no matter the cost. People don't have to like that goal. They don't have agree that people should want that. But Andrew DOES want that and at the end he got it. He's been recognized by his mentor figure as having what it takes to be great. Fletcher got his Charlie Parker. Andrew got his affirmation that he has what it takes to truly achieve his goal. The relationship is toxic and most people won't ever understand why Andrew wants this so much, but at the end, they both are getting what they want out of it.

I don't really think that is what that scene implies... I think it just means that the father finally understood why it meant so much to his son.

The price of greatness at the end he became a new Charlie Parker. A legend but his life is gone. The son is gone.

Sorry, don't know the language, but you are not smart. Your position without sense. "It will happen to him..." - your words. You know nothing but you sure that it will happen with him too. No. Neiman stronger than Casey. Neiman now is a legend, who love music. No alcohol in his life, no drugs. Only music and way to stars. He is young, but he is smart and he is great. He have strong mentality. He is an artist, he is truly leader now. You said that he have the same level as Parker. No. Parke is Parke. Neiman is Neiman. Cost? He is not a child now. He is an adult and he lose his chilhodd. He lose nothing. His father still love him, but now he will respect him more, because he knows about his talent. I don't remember his respect to son, when they have a family-dinner. He was against him and not support his son. Another guy write: "His life is gone. The son is gone". I have one question. You was drunk when you write about it? Andrew is a fighter. You forget scene with car accident. Nothing can stop this guy now. He destroy his teacher and he create his future. Fletcher can work with Neiman in future. This two guys can write a book about their story. It's much stronger story, than story about Parker and plate. They can made a autobiography-movie. They can repeat the show many times. Fletcher was a villain in the movie, true, but he create legendary Neiman. Teacher-traitor finally find his "bird". Smile in the end. Terence is happy. Andrew is happy too. Sorry, my english is a trash, but I hope that you will understand my position.

@@DDC77 I'm not reading all that, specially when you open insulting my intelligence. I shared my point of view and I don't care about some random anonymous internet stranger that starts a reply with "You're not smart" so piss off

@@DanReyesB Classic: I don't want to read your text, but I want to write text to you... He is 100% don't care about some random anonymous, but he show me his toxic reaction on my text. Nice logic. Like I said: genius. First moment I thought it was my mistake, bcs it was 1 wrong-sentence from me, but now I understand that it was true.

​@@DDC77this is dripping pretentiousness and it's hilarious

No easy way to become great. 'Sacrifice' is needed in case of the film

Even if the director said otherwise, I think there would be a fair amount of "death of the author" to apply to this. Is the talent worth it when it blossoms from such a unhealthy place? Well for some people their health isn't a factor when it comes to the meaning of their life.

very good point

It’s up to interpretation that’s the beauty of it

i think is up to interpretation as well, for me he doesnt care about fletcher that much, he does this to save his career and for the public. At the end of the day, the public decides if he is a good drummer or not. Also this explains why the other music players follow him and not fletcher, because they realize about this vendetta that could damage their image. His father looks with horror because he realize how important and good his son is, remember that for him being a football player was better than playing the drums. At the end, fletcher and Neiman approved each other, neiman understood that all that pain was necessary to become the best, and fletcher was happy he made a true drum master.

Oh boohooo.. turn my pages

Also both great examples of a character delving into "The Dark Night of the Soul" as Nat puts it. Being great at something often has its drawbacks

It's a crime that both those movies didn't win Best Picture the years they were individually nominated!

That look on his father's face at the end of the movie is a look of horror. In that moment he lost his son.

​@kingbrunies yeah, not sure how Nat misread that so badly...

@@havok6280 its not misread . its up to interpretation. I personally think bittersweet

Even if his father is right and that's how Andrew ends up, it's what he wants. He's been warned it can happen. He even saw it close up with the story of Sean Casey. But he still wants it. So did he lose at the end? Just because what he wants isn't what most people would want, that means getting it is losing? No. Andrew is winning at the end. He's getting what he wants, what he explicitly tells his father he wants ("I'd rather die young and have people talk about than live to be old and no one knows who I am"). That may not be a life you'd want, it may not be a life I'd want, but it's the life Andrew wants and he's getting it at the end, he's getting affirmation from his mentor figure that he really does have what it takes to be truly great. So many people think he's losing because what he's winning isn't a reward they'd want. But Andrew does want it.

@@havok6280 I don't see it as a misread. Andrew got what he wanted so the end is up to interpretation.

Ooo I’ve heard great things about that one! I kind of had the plot spoiled for me though but still would love to watch it

@@NatalieGoldReacts It's definetly worth it, great movie, would love to see your reaction

Amazing movie

Outstanding rec.. imo.. I suffer from tinnitus as well. I listen to music and white noise constantly to drown out the ringing and buzzing. The movie Baby Driver is pretty good also..

@@PastaDon_ yes tinnitus gang rise up (I loveee baby driver too))))

Try There Will Be Blood if you haven't yet. You'll love it.

Last King of Scotland.

I loooveee Birdman, such a fun movie

Never heard of those movies. Were they really that good?

@@BOT_JERRY I heavily recommend all of them. Such an eclectic bunch nominated that year. The others nominated were SELMA, BOYHOOD, THE IMITATION GAME, THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING, and AMERICAN SNIPER. THE GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL was my personal favorite of the bunch, with BIRDMAN and BOYHOOD tied for 2nd and WHIPLASH right behind.

@@axr7149 I'll check Selma out this weekend. Thanks for the recommendations

that was such a banger year for film. 2018 was also packed with incredible best picture nominees!

Same theme of cutting the movie when you dont want it to end

YES

Jesus Christ dude why didn't you memorize your music? 😂 jk ... (Simmons).

Brother it is easily becoming less and less common idk what you’re talking about

@@GiveMeTheRice: My impression is it’s becoming more common to hear stories like this, and that’s making it a little less easy (but in no way impossible) to get away with abusive behavior like this. The more we talk about a culture of abuse the more people will be in the lookout for it.

​@@GiveMeTheRice factually Incorrect statement

@@evanmiller4502 Link a study then, friend

Honestly, I don't think it's even a pathway to great art. It's more like a sifter that only let's a fraction of great art through.

omggg 😂

Theres a video with omni man beating the shit out of Invincible but they use lines from here as well😂

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Yet, the premise of the film is that Nieman would never have gotten to that peak virtuosic level without fletcher pushing him. Just remember, cave men were not coddled. No positive reinforcement yet they survived. Suffering breeds greatness. Put your feelings away to recognize that truth before administering arm chair morality.

@@NA1c158 It's not arm chair morality. There is a universal right and wrong. But it's also about the fact that if Neiman didn't fit, Fletcher should have just found somebody else. I've been fired before, but recognize that my bosses didn't abuse me for not measuring up. You can't justify sadism.

@@NA1c158That is not the premise of the film. Niemann cheats to get into the band due to the intense pressure and engages in a self-destructive rampage to try and keep himself there. He upstages Fletcher at the end after being accepted and loved by his family even after a failure.

😂

@@NA1c158 Yeah, that's why it isn't a good film. "Suffering" does not breed greatness; there's absolutely no basis for that statement. Hard work and dedication, as well as the economic opportunity to succeed creates greatness.

Some of the best movie experiences are the random pick you didn't know about

My only venture into art is there occasional homebrew D&D narratives, some short stories to go along wiht it. But i felt that the end of the movie is like the "neutral" of the argument, the audience now sees both sides and can decided in which oen they're in. Sean could've died because of Fletcher, but there's the possibility it was because of his support group wasn't there and that's the cause (at least if you believe Fletcher was somewhat truthful when he lies about how Sean died). While Andrew only ever dealt with Fletcher doubting him, his support group was always there even if some didn't care about the matter But these are still colored by the audience. In my case i have some experiences with a bully's parents saying "He's an angel, it wasn't his fault" and i was thinking "Your angel nearly made me go head first into a shard of ceramics embeded on a wall because he didn't like how i looked", so the family lying isn't out of the realm of possibility

One of the best takes I've seen on the ending to this movie.

For every Charlie Parker born from Fletcher's abusive, horrible teaching method, four other Charlie Parkers are born from encouragement, and kindness, and support

A good movie doesn’t tell you what the right answer is, it shows you a reality and lets you decide. You see how passionate this movie got you about its message? It caused you to think deeply about the treatment of performers by their lead and allowed you to formulate a strong argument against the philosophy these leads have, all because it dared to trust you enough to think for yourself.

@@doggo9388 okay, obviously. But films aren’t inherently neutral. For example when the movie shows Fletcher physically abusing Neiman to the point where he’s in incredible distress, the movie is obviously framing that as a bad thing that he’s doing. If the movie framed it in a more comedic way it’d be telling you something different. What I’m talking about when I say I don’t exactly know where the movie stands on the issue is because of how it FRAMES the final sequence. It clearly frames Neiman taking charge of the band and impressing Fletcher as a kind of victory, a triumphant moment for him. BUT, it still shows that he’s physically injuring himself AND it includes Fletcher within that victory, allowing him to bask in Neiman’s victory by supporting him towards the end and admiring his performance. And then the final most important shot in this regard is during the brief pause at the end of his solo when he looks up at Fletcher again, sees Fletcher smile and nod at him, putting a joyous grin on Neiman’s face as if to suggest that winning Fletcher’s approval is his final victory, despite clearly depicting Fletcher as a real big piece of shit who drove another talented student to suicide. There are some small confounding factors to this, but the fact that it allows the main antagonist of the film participate in the ending in this way without actually having grown as a character (he essentially just recognizes Neiman’s great talent). The film makes no suggestion that he realizes Neiman’s so great in spite of his methods and not because of them. There is no such thing as a ”neutral ” film, there are only ones that don’t beat you over the head with its own biases, but it can’t avoid those biases. The reason this movie’s stance on the issue is unclear is because it sends mixed signals to the audience. Now that in and of itself as a concept isn’t bad, juxtaposition is a thing that can be very powerful, but this isn’t that. For example: and spoiler alert for the movie ”Midsommar” The film ends with the main character getting emotionally manipulated into an insane death cult, being so wholly screwed that she helplessly watches her boyfriend being sacrificially burned alive and yet smiles because she’s found a community that treats her as one of their own and the movie uses juxtaposition by framing it as a joyous moment through the lighting, the music (subtly) and the way her character reacts to it… But it’s obvious that the movie isn’t ENDORSING religious sacrifice and death cults, it’s a horrific film, and so the juxtaposition makes the ending more powerful because it heightens the clear tragedy of the moment, seeing her get fully integrated into this murderous cult of lunatics. This movie isn’t able to do this, it isn’t able to fully depict Fletcher’s abusive methods as bad because in the end it seems to validate them, all it does is suggest he doesn’t realize his success and it briefly runs away from him as Neiman takes charge of the band before he gets on board again. And so what happens is that Neiman’s falls back into his abuser’s orbit and the film really leans toward portraying this as a victory through its framing. BUT. I will say that while it’s not enough, the reading of the ending does depend on how you read Fletcher’s response Neiman taking control of the band. You CAN interpret his response as a budding realization that abusing Neiman doesn’t work anymore (like how when he moves to threaten Neiman again he stares Fletcher dead in the eye and loudly hits the cymbal in his face, causing him to recoil) and then you see Fletcher start to approve of what he’s doing and begin to support him rather than verbally abuse him, especially in the moment when he fixes the orientation of the slanted cymbal for Neiman and starts properly conducting and getting immersed into his performance. You CAN interpret that as character growth for him if you want, and I choose to… but it’s not really enough for the above average viewer to discern growth and that growth is key to the whole thing. It’s the key difference that determines whether this movie is a functional success story or a tragedy that doesn’t fully understand that it’s a tragedy. It all depends on whether the film is able to communicate that Fletcher understands he was wrong in abusive ways. The film is WORSE, not better, if it doesn’t take an implicit stance on whether abuse is a valid way of pushing someone toward excellence. No art is neutral, don’t make the mistake of believing that, it all has bias and that bias will come forward in the conclusion of the film.

Also extremely common in kitchens. When you think of an abusive chef, you think Gordon Ramsay, right? Wrong. Marco Pierre White, Ramsay's chef and mentor, would berate his staff on a good day, and throw utensils and pans at them on a bad one. Sometimes he'd go to a cook's station, call the entire kitchen to gather round, and say "look at this s***" without elaborating on why it was wrong. He was for a long time the youngest chef to ever obtain 3 Michelin stars, the highest honor a chef can achieve. To this day he says "yeah sometimes your chef will throw pans at you during service, it's not personal, just take it", when in reality it was this kind of attitude that inspired the next generation to change, teaching through kindness and leading by example instead of fear. Bad leaders can succeed at one thing: showing how not to act, and forming people who will do the right thing so they don't become the leader they hate.

Yea, there's a bit of irony in his logic. He claims that the next Charlie Parker would never be discourage, implying that someone like Parker is going to have it in him to succeed through any kind of obstacle. Which begs the question, why would you ever need to put someone through that guantlet then in the first place? If the Charlie Parker's of the world are going to become the Charlie Parkers no matter what, you shouldn't need to psychologically abuse them just to get them to come to fruition. At the end of the day, Fletcher's logic was to serve his own desire to touch greatness in some way, having never become a Charlie Parker himself.

Agreed. This movie is very stressful, but Uncut Gems is engineered to mimic a panic attack. It's a rough watch. Amazing, but not a very fun experience.

Yeah, Omni-Man, you can't physically hit. Fletcher, you can hit him but don't and you really really wanna.

"I can always start again. Make another band."

He also assumed what all her responses would be, which is decidedly not mature

I’ve seen so many reactors slaughter him for that scene which confuses me so much man. Even if the roles reversed the woman would’ve been praised for pursing her dream no matter the cost

@@DecSteele she would've been called a bitch, stop lying

I agree. He cut to the chase and was honest with her right then and there. It would have been way worse down the line. Honesty is the best policy.

it was immature af, he let his ego get to him, and chose the obviously toxic response. he was abused to the point of making a mistake that even he truly didnt agree with. no matter your passions, you have time for others. this was a bad thing lol

Don't be a dick. What do you think these videos are all about...? It's a reaction channel.

I like that. Rather the force the one dream project over and over again, he pulled back and made a lateral move to get where he needed to be

Also Miles played the drums in a garage band and JK's family is musically talented so it was the perfect pairing.