When he was talking about Demon Form and Flex I thought he was gonna talk highly of them because they just got me my ascention 9 and 10 win, how wrong I could be 😹

@@halosaft Same! I just walked into Demon Form by chance, and it synergized really well with the tanky deck I was building and got me over the ascension 10 hump.

Yep basically lol

@@halosaft flex is really good for specific builds but uhhhh…

@@accountlol7409 Yeah, was some time ago that I wrote that comment, has since gotten all the achievements in the game and I very rarely, if ever, take Flex or Demon Form anymore, and *never* both if I do take one of them 😹 It's good enough on earlier Ascensions, but not something I ever take on Ascension 20.

Whirlwind is maybe the best attack in the game. It scales with everything.

B-but I saw a speed runner use it with flex!That means they’re both good in every deck!Right?!

Using it vs act 2 birds is pretty satisfying.

Incredibly based.

I take Whirlwind every time in the hope, the absolute cope, of getting Chemical X, Bloodletting and Flex and Necronomicon. I got it once, as well as some crazy Strength stacking with Demon Form and Inflame with Duel Wield, then one-shotted every Elite and Boss in Act 3. I'm still riding that high.

45:32 Flex is outclassed by Inflame and Spot Weakness (F Tier) 47:26 Ghostly Armor (B Tier) 48:27 Havoc (C Tier) 49:49 Headbutt (S Tier) 50:16 Heavy Blade needs >4 strength (C Tier) 53:25 Hemokinesis (A Tier) 54:49 Immolate (S Tier) 55:39 Impervious (S Tier) 55:42 Infernal Blade (F Tier) 55:59 Inflame (A Tier) 56:50 Intimidate (F Tier) 57:34 Iron Wave (C Tier) 58:01 Juggernaut (A Tier) 58:33 Limit Break (S Tier) 59:10 Metallicize (C Tier) ?? 1:00:23 Offering (S Tier) 1:00:35 Perfected Strike is better than Clash (F Tier) 1:01:42 Pommel Strike (A Tier) 1:03:14 Power Through (B Tier) 1:05:20 Pummel (B Tier) 1:06:25 Rage (C Tier) 1:07:53 Rampage is good in Act 1 (B Tier) 1:09:12 Reaper (S Tier) 1:09:18 Reckless Charge (D Tier) 1:10:04 Rupture is sometimes good (B Tier) 1:11:47 Searing Blow (D Tier) 1:12:22 Second Wind (D Tier) 1:13:23 Seeing Red (C Tier) ?? 1:13:53 Sentinel (C Tier) 1:14:56 Sever Soul (F Tier) 1:15:34 Shockwave (A Tier) 1:16:00 Shrug It Off (A Tier) 1:17:02 Spot Weakness (A Tier) 1:18:15 Strike (F Tier) 1:18:37 Sword Boomerang is good with strength (A Tier) 1:19:29 Thunderclap lacks damage (C Tier) 1:20:18 True Grit is great when upgraded (A Tier) 1:21:19 Twin Strike (B Tier) 1:22:06 Uppercut (S Tier) 1:23:01 Warcry (C Tier) 1:24:38 Whirlwind (D Tier) 1:25:37 Wild Strike (C Tier)

Thx bro

You're a God among men!

@@bjmurphy34 Heavy Blade is great now maybe put an * and a note next to it

@@geniusreference wym its great "now"? Nothings changed? Or did i miss something

Your referncing Hexaghost’s infernal form card in sts arent you

@@icemans1matedude339 I have not played Downfall aside from the Hermit, so no.

Like you can actually use it on the turn you play it

I'd settle for the upgrade being Innate. I'd even still keep the upgrade at 2 if it meant giving innate.

To use with what mana

Feel no Pain and Dark Embrace take that run to the moon.

I take it for the birds in act 2.

All the situations you describe are excellent situations for Whirlwind, but even without those ideal relic situations Whirlwind has it's place in many battle situations where you have multiple enemies. I've had some of my most dominant runs with Whirlwind. It can also play really well with the Ice Cream relic. It's a must upgrade card though. His take on whirlwind is off. His worst card ranking though is his Boomerang Sword on A tier, which is an atrociously bad card 100% of the time (it only does 3 more damage than strike and it's undirected damage).

@@dinglbarry1275Sword boomerang scales really well that’s why it has a high placement. The same though can be said for whirlwind though.

Yeah, dopamine more like uh. uh uh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh S+++ w/e

@@Eidenhoek Yeah and Pummel/Sword Boomerang does just as well with 1 energy

@@wasifchowdhury2004 neither of those work with Necronomicon or do as well with velvet choker/sneko eye, also Pummel Strike is single use and Sword Boomerang is unreliable in multi fights

@@Ghorda9 In other words in 90% of cases heavy blade sucks and in the 10% of cases where you get specific event based relics it's just about usable (and it's not even the best synergy with Necronomicon lmao)

@@wasifchowdhury2004 except now you're hoping that you get sword boomerang or pummel, pummel also sucks against the heart

But wouldn't the elite tierlist be based on how many runs it kills in average? Cuz then gremlin nob would be S tier 😂🤔

I mean, do any of the Elites spark any form of serotonin in you?

​@@Shikaschima lagavulin in A1 sparks relief, does that count?

I sound like a contrarian but Gremlin Nob is among my favorite elites. The aesthetic, the name, even the mechanics are all perfect with him.

technically it would be S tier because everyone fears him.

Good point

Apotheosis in its own tier above all else.

Mayhem s tier

Panacea s+ tier

Hava+ is amazing

It's my play guide

Exhaust corruption deck is dopamine lvl 9000

I was always sleeping on corruption thinking it was bad, the first time i decided to give it and a few exhaust synergies a go i got my first ever heart kill, just the other day. If you get the other pieces it is fucking insane. Turn 1 barricade, 300 block, 5 intangible, exhaust every card in my deck other than the 5 attacks and only used the 0 energy attack that deals damage equal to your block every turn to kill the heart and it couldnt even do anything. Altough im glad i didnt have to fight time eater, not sure how well i would have done against it with the deck, probably would have died

Lol i won my first game ever with whirlwind +brim

I just managed to win on ascencion 9 with clash. I had 4 energy, 1 barricade, 3 clash, 2 basic attack, 1 basic defend and 3 shrug it off. I feel like this was one of the best case scenarios for clash... And it was both extremely lucky *and* unoptimal ^^u body slam was the play there, and honestly, i feel like it is overall just superior x. X

Fire breathing decks are the easiest to win with. They basically play themselves at a certain point.

@@jonymush1443 Pretty much. At some point you are going to have so many status cards that you just dont need to play anything, but they're definately very situational.

Ehh I have to disagree with body. Its a more situational fiend fire imho

Body slam, maybe, especially in a well-oiled barracade deck, but I wouldn't say the same about Dark Embrace: Ironclad don't have much card draw, Embrace is one of only a handful, and 1/3 of its card pool have exhaust written on it, and status cards exist.

Body Slam 100% is but Dark Embrace is amazing

@@Brivalia Body Slam works best in decks that need literally any offense to win, so it can fill that roll sure but I think if there's one thing Ironclad doesn't usually have a problem with it's finding damage. It's fine, I just think situations where it works were almost always winning situations in the first place

Body slam absolutely, if you have 300 block youre probably gonna win the fight without it. Dark embrace helps you get to your win condtions faster, definitely not a win more card

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And i didn't realize that until i saw your comment after watching the video, that's how entertained i was :)

And 99% of the time when you don't draw that perfect combo of cards you're flooding your deck with multiple flex which bricks all your turns.

did the comment thing just because you asked so nicely

But it doesn’t switch targets if you play it