I Should've NEVER rode this $17,000 Ebike!

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Жыл бұрын

I swapped my 72v Sur Ron for Joe's $17,000 custom 72v 63ah Cab Motorworks Recon electric bike, and let me tell ya, this video does this ebike no justice. The suspension, speed, and smoothness of this electric bike is incredible. Learn all about it in this video!

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@dockertonfpv Жыл бұрын

Love this channel guys, keep the good content coming!

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

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@MacFarlane123 7 ай бұрын

This is exactly why I went for a CAB motorworks. The pure silence of riding and how "stealth" it makes you feel, listening to music, its an amazing experience!

@cabmotorworks Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Keep up the good work 😎

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Joe (owner of the bike in this video) mentioned something about a new bike you guys have I think? I'd love to come by and make a review of one or a couple of your bikes in stock form. You are located near LA right? Please drop me an email at JuicedJoyrides@gmail.com this sounds good to you

@voodoochild6741 3 ай бұрын

Love that seat bro! Bad ass bike

@chrisMc1972 Жыл бұрын

Surron is 4K then spend 10K to make it like you want it,same with the Cab bike or just buy the US made Land moto that's 7 to 10K it already has the power plus Fox suspension and it looks awesome,you can ride it in town and on trails,seems like the perfect bike

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

It’s pretty excellent, I’d like to try one in stock form to see the difference

@jimbennett2795 Жыл бұрын

To get your wheelies right you need to ride the back break leaver constantly and let the bike go backwards just a little to far and then tap the back brake to bring it back and over then hit the throttle again and repeat. That's the game. And you never flip over backward because even if you go to far backward, a tap on the back brake brings you back upright. It's a dance back and forth every second or two. Your not trying to stay in the perfect upright position. Remember You want to always go past it and be ready with the brake or throttle to sway it back the other direction. Back an forth is the trick. When your brain gets it. It will come naturally to tap the break every time you go backward past the pivot point and then throttle when you come back. You already have the throttle side. All you need is the tipping over backward too far and tapping the back brake. Practice throttle to get it up and then break early then throttle again until you realize you could be all the way over backward ready to splat the pavement and all you have to do is tap the back break and your back up. Hope this helps somebody. good guys sway back and forth

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

you're so right man, I'm scared to flip back haha, I know this is exactly what I need to do! I think I'll have it down very soon, perhaps a wheelies progress update video soon

@JAF777 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! What I liked about Matt’s sur ron was the regen was on the throttle. Seems like it may be easier to get the balance point right with throttle modulation where as the recon is freewheel with the regen on the rear brake so if you tap the rear brake the front wheel comes down hard and fast due to the regen settings. Considering rewiring the regen to the throttle and/or adding a regen brake cut off switch so I can use the mechanical brake along with throttle as you mentioned.

@johnoneal1234 Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides I knew a guy when I was a kid, King of the Wheelies, he could walk his Schwinn Varsity for blocks and even around corners. Then one day, he was that tiny bit off, flipped over and landed hard on the back of his head. I will never forget his scream. Am I trying to scare you? Yep. A cheap thrill like popping Wheelies is not worth it.

@thefacilitysportstv8127 Жыл бұрын

😊

@Back.yard.stunts Жыл бұрын

@@johnoneal1234 my brother in Christ.. all I can say is shit happens! If all we did was look at the people that failed we would never succeed. Do keep an eye on failure but learn from it so it doesn’t constantly repeat itself. Sorry for you’re loss man hope you’re able to live a little some day!

@jasonhall9786 Жыл бұрын

Is there 15k in cash stuffed inside the frame somewhere?😂

@coolman5055 Жыл бұрын

🤣😂😂😂🙌🏾

@nicod974 11 ай бұрын

😂🤣😂👌

@krebikes 6 ай бұрын

I bet the battery is not even close to 3k which is the most expensive part on the bike

@karanjaggi8438 3 ай бұрын

@@krebikesthe battery is 2500

@krebikes 3 ай бұрын

@@karanjaggi8438 right so what's the rest of the $14.5k for?

@kevinduprey9326 3 ай бұрын

Its great to have someone with my body type review these bikes.... I definitely know to steer clear of cafe bikes 😅😅...

@SS-ln3dg Жыл бұрын

Fun!!!!! Wow that was a great video and bikes

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I enjoyed riding the bike, hanging with Joe, and creating this video!

@airfox Жыл бұрын

I have the Cab Eagle. These bikes are heaven!

@ronalddesilva8730 Жыл бұрын

I have a Recon. It’s my first ebike, and I wanted the best out there. I’m happy with my purchase. Nobody comes close to me on the trail, not even close. Awesome ride!

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

It’s an excellent bike I never even knew about

@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын

A sur ron would come close with a 72v chi battery alone

@cabmotorworks Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear! 😎

@justab3417 Жыл бұрын

@@bslothed3211no...and mid drives suk

@bigballa8220 Жыл бұрын

@@bslothed3211naww a Recon will smoke a surron

@therealbojak Жыл бұрын

stock brakes are amazing for me. Just get the H03C metallic pads and bleeeed them good. thicker or larger diameter rotors help more than new calipers do.

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Need to throw some new shimano pads on and see if the pads are just worn out, these brakes started out pretty good when I first put them on

@huisman111 Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides i got the pads you recommended from amazon and im a wheelie guy. they work great for me! but still i want to upgrade! lol

@Timbodacious Жыл бұрын

those chinese bomber frames have been the diy kings for years. probably more cost effective to build your own than buying a zero

@electrifiedlatina6871 Жыл бұрын

Hey Tim. I have a question, how solid/reliable are those Chinese bomber frames? I heard a guy say that they’re not safe and crack with time. I say Chinese have been making some awesome eVehicles for the whole world for quite a long time!

@Timbodacious Жыл бұрын

@@electrifiedlatina6871 They are pretty good I've only seen a few break in the back where the shock smashes through the frame case. some of them are modified with a brace in that area you just have to look when shopping. The bombers have been around for a long time but they are just sort of ugly and simple looking so i guess thats why they never climbed the ladder of ebike fame.

@jeffhhdro Жыл бұрын

I have one of those frames from 2016. Been beating on it for years. I did a full teardown when I got it, replaced all the hardware, added 72200 sabvaton and scored a 200 amp capable 72v battery. Best shit since sliced bread.

@trevor8672 Жыл бұрын

I say Genuine Stealth Bomber B52 are right up there hence why it's the most copied frame on the planet.

@therealbojak Жыл бұрын

I mentioned living there before. The people that frequent that park are so hell bent on everyone abiding by ALL of the rules at ALL times. I'm surprised they didn't confront you as you were sitting there on the bikes. I used to get coffee there every morning.

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

😆 sounds like the PV I know, it’s a nice community but def some Karen’s around

@Gagoster 19 күн бұрын

I have this Recon. 20kw of power. Im about to make content for it on my channel. This bike is so fast it decimates surrons, eride pros and hyperscooters. Not even close. 🥶

@tankdome37 Жыл бұрын

That recon is a intriguing bike

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

its excellent!

@ScooterScoots 11 ай бұрын

what is hard is you can build a bike like the CAB ones and with the extra money but a motorcycle.

@tankdome37 11 ай бұрын

@@ScooterScoots it’s a expensive as hell

@jimlahey5354 Жыл бұрын

Giant hub motors are heavy and trap a lot of the heat since the windings are on the inside of the motor, not the outside as is the case with a mid drive.

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

interesting, I didn't know that!

@JAF777 Жыл бұрын

FWIW I’ve never had any issues with overheating. And it gets quite hot here in the mountains during the summer. Same goes for the eagle which I had before the recon.

@jimlahey5354 Жыл бұрын

@@JAF777 I put nearly 3000 miles on big hub motors commuting for years. I was only running about 2kW. But then one weekend I decided to have some fun doing 2-3kW continuous hard riding and the motor overheated and died. Windings shorted to each other. So yeah they work but must be babied a little bit, thermally speaking. Once I got live temperature monitoring going on my hub it was an eye opener - easily hitting 120C thermal roll back after 15 minute of riding at 30mph. Nowadays with the surron I am pushing like 5kW continuous and the motor gets to like 70C.

@jimlahey5354 Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides Yup. Hubs have magnets on the outside, windings on the inside. Traps heat very well! Ha.

@JAF777 Жыл бұрын

@@jimlahey5354 interesting. I should hit it with my thermal gun to see where it’s at. Cooling fins help a little! Statorade should also help protect it considerably.

@thecheif6316 Жыл бұрын

I own a Recon and have had 0 responses from Cab on maintencance issues. I got the stock wheels and after 5 rides a bunch of the spokes are bent and making loud cranking/clicking noises you’d expect 10gs to get u good stuff

@RosMor666 Жыл бұрын

Bought a recon and a eagle for me and my wife, had issues Chris went completely mia. Funny considering how much of a salesman he was on "customer service". Buyers beware.

@thecheif6316 Жыл бұрын

@@RosMor666 It’s crazy because anyone could push a court case if they had the time. apparently they delete bad reviews from their website too

@thecheif6316 11 ай бұрын

@@RosMor666 you end up getting it fixed by CAB?

@clemonsjoey Жыл бұрын

I ride over there in Playa Vista around the Google campus often too, nice area. I have the same frame as his Cab Motorworks, that I built myself, I put a 134v battery in it and have $20K+ in it now. We should get together and ride 😎🤙🏼

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

let's do that, would love to experience 134v and do a little bike trade video similar to this, I've fixed my brakes 😆 please shoot me an email at juicedjoyrides@gmail.com and we can figure out a day and time dude!

@JAF777 Жыл бұрын

134v?!? Amazing!

@dariocarrasco7936 Жыл бұрын

how much range do you usually get on a charge?

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

It really depends on speed, I could probably burn the whole thing empty in about 20 to 30 miles, but I’d say I get more like 40 or 50 going at a reasonable speed

@THouse-md1hy Жыл бұрын

Hey I wanted to know how does it fill because I'm 5"11 tall and I use to a bicycle seat can you pedal the bike is it really short for tall people like me

@geedub7912 Жыл бұрын

As the owner of a Recon myself I can assure you that the pedals are just a place to plant your feet. You can pedal it on level ground about 1 mph at best (good luck uphill, the bike weighs 200 ibs.). But if you purchase the Schlumpf speed drive upgrade (approx. $1,000) then you can at least feel the tension on the pedals at speeds up to around 35 which helps with the ghost pedaling. If you're wanting something you can pedal then you should seriously consider something else because this bike is all about power, it's the real McCoy!!! Cab Motorworks does make other bikes that you might like better but even those are not toys.

@ScooterScoots 11 ай бұрын

@@geedub7912 1K just so I can say look I can pedal at 40mph....

@petermelnyk7664 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely positive a similar set up can be built at home much much cheaper...if you are a poor person like myself ..just requires a lot of homework, and research...these are amazing bikes ..so don't get me twisted..I would love to be able to just purchase one of these ...but some of us are financially hindered..I have been learning a lot about different set ups ..and keeping things cool.. thanks for sharing.. absolutely awesome bikes.

@drewgilker417 Жыл бұрын

How do you not get arrested ?

@Bigmac-dx8xz Жыл бұрын

man i got mine for $500 i just need the shell seat and fix the battery plug i my need some help!

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

500 bucks for this bike?

@mustanggang3889 Жыл бұрын

Did he said 280tq??

@mashdatrashvideos2831 Жыл бұрын

NB Power is the best place to buy controllers, my 5000watt hub motor became silent when i switched it to the NB power controller, seriously silent its crazy

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know the controller made a different for motor sound

@ScooterScoots 11 ай бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides Sine wave vs square waves.

@zachfpv4493 Жыл бұрын

What rear shock is that running?

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

I forget, he talks about it a couple times, I want it 😆

@zachfpv4493 Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides 👍I found it @6:15.Marzocchi CR with fox 550lb spring

@garymertens1958 Жыл бұрын

Wow that’s a lot of money.

@noelleonard2498 Жыл бұрын

Why aren't they all hub motors? Just like uec motors

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

some are mid drive, like my Sur Ron. there are many benefits and some downsides too. mid drive places the weight of the motor in a better place, as well as it is not "unsprung weight" which has many performance benefits. Also mid drive tends to have more torque starting from a stop. there are downsides though, such as the power need to be ran through some sort of chain or belt to deliver it to the rear wheel which causes more noise and power loss and the potential to break the chain and leave you stranded etc.

@huisman111 Жыл бұрын

i have the bac4000 with a bypassed stock battery, for wheelies 7 is the best and i run 8% regen or else the bike does weird things under 5% i can do circle wheelies an stunt an stuff not flexing just saying you just try lowering the power it makes it much easier for slow wheelies

@huisman111 Жыл бұрын

in power level 9 you cant keep the bike in the balance point nearly as easily! power level 7 is beauty. if you got a 72v then im not sure maybe 5 or 6 will be better for the power level. and one tip is dont ever practice wheelies with a foot down, always just pop it up hit the break pop it up hit the break then learn the balance point and BOOM it will just click for you! trust me.

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

😆 I know, I just need to get used to using the brake past the balance point. Good idea about using a lower power setting for wheelies at slow speeds!

@ScooterScoots 11 ай бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides Hey I like your Vids too, would a 5'6 guy ride a surron x?

@tritzzy Жыл бұрын

For accurate reference 3.5t is for speed. 5t would be for more torque

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

thanks for the clarity, I didn't know anything about this until Joe told me about it!

@JAF777 Жыл бұрын

Ah thanks for that correction!

@tritzzy Жыл бұрын

@@JAF777 No sweat! Super sweet bike!

@bradyblankenship8397 Жыл бұрын

Hub motors suck balls for off road shredding, gotta have a mud mounted motor, that bike might be fun on the road but it wouldn't be any good off road compared to the Ron.. I wouldn't trade. 17,000 seems high considering the mid grade suspension.

@justinhoffman5726 Жыл бұрын

You could get so many better things for $17,000. That is robbery

@krebikes 6 ай бұрын

Just a correction 3.5t is more speed 5t is more torque.

@pangeacapitalllc5641 Жыл бұрын

Are these street legal?

@mattmatter5643 10 ай бұрын

They’re all legal if they don’t catch you.

@jasonludwig215 Жыл бұрын

Looks like the B-52 bike

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@bsmith2340 5 ай бұрын

Has to be a hobby thing. I can't justify the 17 thousand dollars cuz I would just buy a zero motorcycle at that point but goes way faster and that's legal

@krebikes 6 ай бұрын

to be honest that is not worth $17k Like tell me what exactly the $17k is for?

@that_guy6116 Жыл бұрын

3.5T isn’t the torquier wind, the 5T is the torquier one

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Oops, we all make mistakes

@ashpunting Жыл бұрын

I like the Cab motor works bike. If I lived in the USA, I would get the cab Eagle Electric bike for sure. I think they cost about $7000

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

They seem pretty great! The suspension and feel of this bike was incredible! I thought I loved mine until I sat on this cloud haha

@Instantpower332 7 ай бұрын

I try to not get on rides that are so far out of my budget, But too no avail.. Great Scoot...

@str8sr825 Жыл бұрын

17k. Lol I hope you're kidding. With a hub motor. Lol

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

I always though less of hub motors until recently, some of these are pretty impressive

@keokio7 Жыл бұрын

hub motors are a thing of past.. its all about mid drives. If you only do commuting then you can get away with a hub motor, but even then mid drives are just more practical. We can thank Surron for bringing high quality ebikes along with mid drives into the market. 10 years ago sur ron would've been my dream ebike but they had nothing like that not even close.

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Mid drives are great but I do love the silence of the hub!

@keokio7 Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides i had a Crystalyte hub motor slapped onto a mountain back in the day. They are quiet and quite fun. For no nonsense commutes they are just fine, but i'll go mid drive if i get another ebike.

@williambontrager2349 Жыл бұрын

I have both a 6000 watt mid drive and about the same in a hub drive. The hub drive is super quiet and super efficient. Smooth, strong acceleration and not scary at all. The mid drive is louder and tourquey AF and always feels a bit... uncontrollable which is great fun but for getting places the hub is nice. An Enduro or cs20 frame with a 5,000 watt hub and a 40-50 ah 72 volt battery will get you 120+ miles of range vs 50-60 with a mid drive.

@keokio7 Жыл бұрын

@@williambontrager2349 for just commuting hub is great. I guess im just more biased towards mid drives since ive always wwanted one and there was none around. This was 2010. I just dont like that 40lb weight attached to the rear wheel. Maybe next ill pick up the talaria sting

@williambontrager2349 Жыл бұрын

@@keokio7 you would think 40 lbs on the back wheel would be the most noticable part but unless you are jumping or doing extreme stuff the most noticable is torque. Check out the velimotors vmx08 for a street legal, all carbon fiber, bigger, lighter, 72 volt version of the talaria. That's what I bought.

@dontjustexist9859 Жыл бұрын

17k lol that's a cheap Qs273 motor. You can build that bike for 5k

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

I hope they start selling refined bikes for that price one day soon

@batmanofinglewood Жыл бұрын

I built mine for 3k. Rear and Front Hub motors are trash. Mid drive is much better. More parts but way better in every way

@kevlandon Жыл бұрын

It looks funny, surron looks nicer

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

The recon sounds and feels better

@louietramposch4559 Жыл бұрын

The day he fell in love with a 273 😅☝️🤟👽🤓

@MotoAlias Жыл бұрын

Cab motorworks should be charged with robbery 17k?

@kernhamilton553 Жыл бұрын

3.5 is top speed

@drgeoffangel5422 Жыл бұрын

You might have well bought a two stroke motor bike for $2000 ? if you want a small motor bike! Range and speed better !

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

but then it's loud af and I can't take it anywhere I ride these

@edwardclark3980 Жыл бұрын

Anyone would be out of their mind to pay 17 k or even 7k for that. Seriously. You could buy much nicer things then that.

@krebikes 6 ай бұрын

I built mine for around 5k and im doing 60mph n i get a little over 20miles full throttle most of the time 🤦 i feel like 17k is a rip off

@rolandroland1485 3 ай бұрын

@@krebikes💯

@minecraftbender Жыл бұрын

Rear wheel hub motors suck ass man, up the surron!

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

😆 that’s what I always thought too until recently, I’ve tried some pretty good ones. I haven’t had a chance to push them off road yet though

@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын

@@JuicedJoyrides Yeah they aren't that good, they are super quiet and smooth but mid motors are another story, you would know.. You might be thinking the hub is better but once you up your sur ron above 20k watt's, it wakes up lol

@SometimesSidewayzHB Жыл бұрын

Bro rip the bike! Give it some throttle. Do some wheelies

@dennisavsh3850 Жыл бұрын

17k? LOLLL i got a sur ron for 3k

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

A stock Sur Ron compared to this bike is like a Prius vs a 7 series

@ebikespeedtv7913 Жыл бұрын

i have a $3400 ebike beat his ebike real bad with 14thousands reasons less

@ScooterScoots 11 ай бұрын

get a nice liitle RV with a rack for the money you save or a VAN

@LarryRichelli 2 ай бұрын

Ha ha, a Zero FX is way cheaper and would blow these over priced CAB bikes away. I just bought a brand new one for $10.5K out the door

@kylep3759 Жыл бұрын

I wanna see a full speed bail

@MotoAlias Жыл бұрын

Extremely ridiculously overpriced stealth bomber. Stealth bombers can be bought for like 3.5k you could build a super nice one for 10k but 17 thousand dollars doesn't make sense in any world.

@rolandroland1485 3 ай бұрын

17k ?! Lmaoooo this is a joke The bike is def great but for that price, I can get you the 2 if the same bike 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️😂

@mannytex9805 Жыл бұрын

Think all of this shit is way too expensive, the parts r like bearly 1/3 of the price!!!!!! It would b only a few k, to convert a old or non workin gas mortor bike🎯❗greed is capitalizin on fairly new trend of dirt-bikes on the street❗

@M.Mae.M Жыл бұрын

Sorry but I say NO to hub motors!!

@bslothed3211 Жыл бұрын

mid motor for life! Amen

@emilhadz941 Жыл бұрын

Why is this guy so snobby. He didn’t stop complaining about the Surrons brakes, noise and other things. We get it not everyone spends 17k on a e bike.

@JuicedJoyrides Жыл бұрын

Honestly the brakes on my Sur Ron were absolutely horrible at the time, I just fixed them today. The levers and adjustments were super spongy and needed new pads on the front I think.