I Sold My 4090 for a 7900 XTX

I Sold My 4090 for a 7900 XTX - Here’s Why

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I Sold My 4090 for a 7900 XTX - Here’s Why
I just sold my Nvidia RTX 4090 Founders edition graphics card and swapped to an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX, and not because it was cheaper. Personally I actually think the RX 7900 XTX is a better graphics card, at least for what I do. Why do I think the RX 7900 XTX is a better GPU than the RTX 4090… Let’s talk about it.
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@GraphicallyChallenged 6 ай бұрын

Update after 3 months: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odmArdd8s5nIl4k.html&ab_channel=GraphicallyChallenged

@MickenCZProfi 10 ай бұрын

Guys, also keep in mind, the 7900 XTX costs 900 bucks and the 4090 costs 1600 bucks.

@XX-_-XX420 10 ай бұрын

about that yeah both cost 100 bucks more here. Either way I've bought nvidia for the last time for my next 5 upgrades. The card is mostly good besides the issues spoken of in this video, but they just asked to much so I'll make them lose money on me one way or the other.

@justinspencer3211 10 ай бұрын

Got mine for 820 and got resident evil 4. Always loved that game 🙂

@kalb390 10 ай бұрын

@@justinspencer3211used?

@xminisindadx 10 ай бұрын

@@youtubelaurence4196 It was probably the powercolor hellhound. It was 820 on amazon I believe a few weeks ago. I got the red devil for 879 at that time.

@KINGOFDUBSOFFICIAL 10 ай бұрын

It actually cost $1000 and still performs way worse than the 4090 so that explains the price difference

@ClarkWasHere1 10 ай бұрын

To be honest its surprising that the 4090 doesn't have the latest ports for displays for the price of the card.

@sugarjesusyt 10 ай бұрын

do you really need em? I play wz2 on 4090 with 4k and I sit on 120-150 fps. Future games will be more demanding, you wouldn't be able to utilize 8k in 165hz lol

@Enigma1336 10 ай бұрын

It is not surprising at all. Ngreedia has always been delaying new technologies as long as possible because of margins. AMD is consistently putting out newer generations of for example pci-e and displayports a good generation or two earlier than ngreedia.

@lupintheiii3055 10 ай бұрын

The 4090 is using the same PCB of the 3090Ti (to save money), that's why.

@PeterB144 10 ай бұрын

@@lupintheiii3055 how poor that is. Selling the green Team "Flagship" for so high prices and then using old PCBs for it. Shame on them. I think they will loose a lot of Gamers due to their greedy tactics with their current Graphic Cards. But one thing is sure: The AI-Boom will end when the market is feed up with hardware and maybe then "Ngreedia" we will see what will happen.😈😈😈😈

@rvs55 9 ай бұрын

Why? DP 2.1 won't be fully utilized even by the 7900XTX even if you pushed it balls to the wall. This generation's hardware isn't up to it yet, not even the 4090. Now, next generation, that's where it's gonna be at.

@mathewstewart1692 10 ай бұрын

Went 7900Xt over the 4070ti and do not regret it one bit. Card is stupid fast. I got the Taichi version and it's honestly one of the best looking cards I've ever seen imo.

@SirBlicks 10 ай бұрын

The 7900XT is usually faster but I also like enjoying my games with RT if possible at 4K even if it requires DLSS quality while playing in a solo campaign, so for that reason i’m inclined to go with NVIDIA but the VRAM capacity makes the 7900XT such a good choice but I think running games with light ray tracing may be the call because $720 dollars is less of a pill to swallow, btw i don’t record gameplay or do much video editing so I don’t need the encoders and decoders but I am stuck in a tough position

@Serandi 10 ай бұрын

@@SirBlicks Dont even use RT with my 4090... thinking all the time to sell it and take the RX 7900 XTX

@Adri9570 10 ай бұрын

@@Serandi Why not the 4080 if it's the same price as the XTX? They perform similar and the 4080 has DLSS2 + Frame generation + lower consumption + better 1% percent lows. If you don't use RT the 4080 loses less power and becomes more relevant. I like the XTX price/performance, it's just that for almost the same price the advantages of the 4080 are more interesting IMHO.

@bshinjp 10 ай бұрын

I'm a gamer and a content creator. I just want to know if it's faster with Davinci Resolved 18.

@SirBlicks 10 ай бұрын

@@Serandi yeah I was thinking about just using no RT but I guess I can upgrade a year or two down through line when a more competitive offer comes up so i’ll probably go for the 7900 xt or even the xtx if i can spare a few more dollars

@TechWithVille 9 ай бұрын

I've been using the RX 7900 XTX in my main PC for about a week now and I have to say that I'm just damn impressed with this card. I mostly do editing and such on my PC for work and having a card that not only performs like a top of the line card from Nvidia but also costs half as much, I couldn't be happier.

@Dynamicman95 9 ай бұрын

Hey, what kind of softwares do you use to edit? I really want to get an RX 7900 but what's stopping me is the CUDA support Nvidia offers and generally people saying they are more reliable.

@TechWithVille 9 ай бұрын

@@Dynamicman95 Adobe, DaVinci Resolve, etc. etc. It really depends on what I'm working with.

@Dynamicman95 9 ай бұрын

@@TechWithVille What's your personal experience when it comes to the RX 7900 XTX editing using adobe?

@TechWithVille 9 ай бұрын

@@Dynamicman95 Personally I feel like it's actually a lot better than other cards I've used in the past (which have all been Nvidia cards), in Premiere my RTX2070 would occassionally cause my entire PC to BSOD. However, all those problems are gone now that I'm using the RX 7900 XTX. If the project is large, there may be some stuttering in preview but it's usually minimal and quite manageable. Rendering is fast, that's to be expected from a card of this kind. Overall I don't really have anything to complain about.

@pinakmiku4999 9 ай бұрын

@@Dynamicman95Buy the 4080 if you care about productivity. Most content creators and most people recommend Nvidia for content creation. I would not go with just one person experience. But if you only care games, get the 7900xtx

@daviddahlstrom192 10 ай бұрын

I have a 4090, but for exactly one reason. High-end PCVR. Whenever I see reviews of the 4090, I don't understand why people would buy one for ordinary flatscreen games since it is absurdly overkill for the majority of games and way overpriced if flatscreen is all you play. Quite frankly, my 2080Ti ran every single flatscreen game that I personally play adequately and I never would have upgraded for that. For VR its a very different story though, where the 4090 has been a total game changer for simulators especially and allows the vast majority of my game collection to now run at the solid 90 to 120 fps framerates that are so essential in VR, and finally has the VRAM to push 5760x2880 level resolutions with minimal hiccups. Yet bizarrely the vast majority of 4090 reviews don't even mention VR as a use case when to me that's the only use case that makes this card actually worth the price.

@Accuracy158 10 ай бұрын

What VR applications are requiring so much power these days? I never really thought I was lacking power for VR with may 2080ti but I only have the original Oculus Rift and the resolution was just too low for me to enjoy games like Skyrim/Fallout 4. I remember trying to upscale everything on the GPU but the problem was more the lack of pixels in the actual device I don't know how much better they have gotten today. It was easy to drive (probably even on my 1080) but not high res and kind of had that "screen door effect" people talk about with VR.

@thelmaviaduct 10 ай бұрын

Not true. I use a 4090 for 4k 120 Hz DCS on a LG C2. Gives me option to go VR later, future proof purchase. It's a beast.

@daviddahlstrom192 10 ай бұрын

@@Accuracy158 Well, lessee. Now keep in mind that Oculus Rift was only 1080x1200 per eye vs. 2880x2880 per eye on today's high-end headsets like Pimax Crystal which have pretty much no SDE at all, but is almost like pushing two 4K displays simulataneously. So MSFS for sure, where a 4090/13900k is still only going to get you about 60fps at decent settings (but very playable vs fps in the low 20s on a 2080Ti). Then there's DCS, XPlane, Assetto Corsa, heavily modded Skyrim with 4K textures, Elite Dangerous, Derail Valley, No Man's Sky, Solus Project, Subnautica, etc, which all become buttery smooth by comparison with the 4090. And it provides the ability to make nearly all the more "casual" titles run at 120Hz. But for flatscreen, even MSFS was pretty decent on my 2080Ti.

@daviddahlstrom192 10 ай бұрын

@@thelmaviaduct Playing DCS at great framerates, even in flatscreen, is certainly a valid use case, but without the future-proofing for VR plan that you mention, I'm pretty sure you could have gotten away just fine with a 7900XTX or 4080 still making the 4090 overkill for the price.

@Accuracy158 10 ай бұрын

@@daviddahlstrom192 2880x2880sounds more like where VR has to be. As someone who put VR down after the first week or two and never picked it back up I would have thought Valve's headset had the highest specs and they still don't look promising. Of course if I'm willing to buy a 4090 at launch and still would never consider spending more than $400 on a VR headset it suggests the market is pretty small. Not that 4090 would have been my first choice if the 4080 made more sense. It just seems like you are getting more for your money with the top of the line card in this case than one step down. Maybe because they knew the 4080 would be more applicable to the average customer...

@ckarafa 10 ай бұрын

NVIDIA lost this customer to the 7900 xtx because of the display port version. So I am supposed to be locked into DP 1.4 after paying $2,000 for a 4090? I don't think so. Also, I only play one game, DOTA2, which I am hitting 400 FPS at 4k, which is overkill for any monitor tech available right now and overkill for next gen monitors as well. But with a 4090, I could not leverage next gen monitors because of the awful port selection. Tell me that they did not do that on purpose to make their card obsolete at a quicker rate and I will laugh at you. NVIDIA says that they are more so a software company, right? It shows in this example quite clearly.

@XX-_-XX420 10 ай бұрын

It can do 4k 240 hz if I'm correct. They use some sort of compression that doesn't affect how it looks to make it work. They should probably just have the better port on it but, it's far from the worst thing.

@HosakaBlood 10 ай бұрын

Nvidia probally have in made the 4090 way before dp2.1 was available if you remenber correctly nvidia delay few time the launch of the 40 series due to aib compleing about over stock 30 series

@His_Noodly_Appendages 10 ай бұрын

Nvidia knew exactly what they were doing releasing the 40 series cards: 'What's the minimum performance [gain] we can provide whilst extracting the most $ from our buyers?' Edit: Added 'gain'

@Enigma1336 10 ай бұрын

"How can we fuck our customer over so they will buy our next $2000 GPU in a year or two!"

@papasmurf5598 9 ай бұрын

It's definitely not minimal performance by any means. In most cases its 60% faster than the 3090Ti. In other cases its twice as fast. I have both cards and the 4090 uses less power to get maximum performance gains over my 3090. DLSS3 is also a must have.

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

@@papasmurf5598 U realize that 3090 used 8nm Samsung Node.. which is basically improved 10nm While 4090 is TSMC 4nm, wich basically same as their 5nm but with 5% improvment In theory.. Nvidia RTX 3090 should been TSMC 7nm, but they cheaped out with Samsung 8nm node So yeah.. they're cheaping out while they sell it for $1600 with fake fps (DLSS 3 have 2x delay in ms) I'd say 4090 deserve $1000.. 4080 $700.. while 7900xtx deserves $750 while 7900xt deserve $650

@papasmurf5598 9 ай бұрын

@@Jack_Sparrow131 I’m not going to dispute or argue about it. I’m just gonna say I have 2 cards myself in 2 different PCs. A 3090 Strix and a 4090 Gigabyte. The 4090 is 60% to 2X faster in different games. I’ve never owned an AMD card. But every reviewer will tell you that AMDs FSR and Ray Tracing doesn’t compare to A Nvidia Cards DLSS and Ray Tracing Technology. The Price is high for Nvidia Cards but it’s like they say. You get what you pay for. Theirs always the guys sitting on the fence that try to justify a cheaper card. The only reason to go AMD is the price, nothing else about the Card is better than a Nvidia Card. As far as latency goes with DLSS, that’s debatable because I haven’t heard reviewers complaining at all about that, and personally I don’t see that on my PCs either. My experience when using DLSS is all positive, I don’t have anything negative to say about or I would tell you. If it sucked I would definitely say so. The only downside to Nvidia Cards in my opinion is their prices. I paid a lot of money for both of my cards. Actually paid more for the 3090 Strix because I bought it during the Covid pandemic and cards were very hard to get. Paid $2,350 for the white OC Edition. My 4090 Gigabyte only cost me $1,800 after Cards became more plentiful. I think both should have only cost me $1,200 at most.

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

@papasmurf5598 well.. to be fair, I tried 2 Nvidia cards.. and 3 AMD cards The experience is the same I have (both of AMD / Nvidia) didn't encounter any major bug or bad experience Now.. the DLSS being better is correct but that only for DLSS 3 vs old FSR 1 / 2 DLSS 2 is nearly same $hit as FSR 2.. compare them side by side and even experts will face hard time knowing which is DLSS & which is FSR RT in the other hand is a clear winner for Nvidia, but even that mighty 4090 will take 40% fps hit in high RT games.. which I say is a lose.. RT will be a thing probably in RTX 5000 Series And yes.. you can't expect $1000 to match $1600.. but when a $1000 card (already discounted to $850) can match 90% of $1600.. that what make it extremely valuable.. It's like choosing to buy BMW for 80k.. or getting a Volvo for 50k.. they both German V6 engine full of features.. but the BMW is a bad value considering the 1.8x difference with slightly better features

@donutwindy 10 ай бұрын

Even the 1% lows are showing, in these graphs, a MUCH larger reduction in frame rate on the 4090 because starting out higher then dropping to the same rate as the 7900 required a much bigger drop. I haven't seen many reviewers mention the issues mentioned here. Now I need to go back and see if the same applies to the lower end cards.

@denvera1g1 10 ай бұрын

If i recell, the monolithic cards dont have this issue as bad, I mighht be mis-remembering it, it might be because they''re lower end card, it might be because the lower end cards are monolithic which in theory significantly reduces latency

@jeofthevirtuoussand 9 ай бұрын

The worst part is that the rtx 4090 is still bottlenecked by cpu .maybe next gen cpus will help the rtx 4090 to truly show what it's truly capable of

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

@@jeofthevirtuoussand 4090 only bottlenecked in 1080p & might be at 1440p.. but 4090 never bottlenecked in 4k.. at least if U have a Ryzen 7000 or Intel 12th / 13th

@SwolePapi15 9 ай бұрын

@@Jack_Sparrow131there 100% is games it is cpu bottlnecked at 4k. But its certainly not every game

@TheSometimeAfter 9 ай бұрын

@@SwolePapi15name them

@squirrelsinjacket1804 10 ай бұрын

I was surprised the 40 series didn't have displayport 2.1, especially since it sounds like the 50 series won't come until 2025.

@GSP-76 10 ай бұрын

They should have included it but you don't need it.

@squirrelsinjacket1804 10 ай бұрын

@@GSP-76 It's really only for top end 240hz monitors... if I was buying a $1600 card I'd expect it to have all the bells and whistles.

@Accuaro 10 ай бұрын

@@GSP-76 Don't need it right now... but waiting until 2025 for a CHANCE that Nvidia will let you suck their cok, nah I'm good man.

@MickenCZProfi 10 ай бұрын

@@GSP-76 You do actually need it for VR, cause you're running a display for each eye from one displayport.

@GSP-76 10 ай бұрын

@@MickenCZProfi What resolution are those VR headsets running at?

@leorickpccenter 9 ай бұрын

Your video has improved drastically. Impressive. Also, I thought nobody would notice these display issues that Nvidia has. It kinda feels like that nvidia users are not complaining. Also the XTX right now is down to just $800 last check.

@iiNaStYiii 9 ай бұрын

I also went with 7900XTX and 7800x3D. And let me say it’s been a monster build so far. 200-400FPS in several games. From tarkov 200-240 and squad and PUBG 300-400 fps

@markeeh 9 ай бұрын

Indeed. Got same build and it's worth every penny

@mateonedic5716 9 ай бұрын

Yea same for me, got RX 7900 XTX + Ryzen 9 7950X3D and its a beast of a PC

@iiNaStYiii 9 ай бұрын

@@mateonedic5716 I didn’t buy the 7950x3D due to everything I read was save the money just get the 7800x3D as it performed just as good in gaming.

@cxngo8124 9 ай бұрын

Thats what I'm planning on getting, so I can play 1440p 240hz on and OLED display.

@iiNaStYiii 9 ай бұрын

@@cxngo8124 that’s my next big purchase is 240 hz oled monitor

@Kryptic1046 10 ай бұрын

I've experienced similar behavior with my 4090 on HDMI 2.1 displays. It'll be fine for a day, or two days, sometimes all week, but eventually it just drops the video signal and I have to restart to get it back. It has done this with both a Samsung QN800B and a TCLR648. None of my other three PC's (one with a 2080 ti, one with a 3080 nor my laptop) have this issue with those same TV's, so I'm fairly certain it's something specific to the 4090 on the software side. It doesn't do this with HDMI 2.0 inputs, only HDMI 2.1. I have seen other people on various forums that have the same issue. It's not enough to make me want to trade it for anything else, but I can see how that'd be annoying af if you review TV's and monitors for a living. Edit: You can still create custom resolutions with a 4090 on a DSC display, but you have to do it through the registry. Mildly irritating to have to do it this way, but it works. Would be nice if Nvidia would just properly fix this issue.

@makeupminx6103 10 ай бұрын

Just installed my 7900xtx and oh my god it’s fantastic. My games are so smooth and high quality. Case feels hot to the touch but the gpu and cpu temps are within range!

@fiveforbiting 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like you need to get more exhaust flow perhaps....if case is hot, moboard prolly hot etc.

@wangusbeef86 10 ай бұрын

I believe most cards and processors these days can be slightly undervolted at 0 perf cost (sometimes improved perf) for less temps and power consumption. Def worth it just for the electricity bill savings alone

@rommelreyes2209 9 ай бұрын

What psu do you use?

@johnnyboogalo4897 9 ай бұрын

Case is hot? thats kind of worrying situtation bro.What is your case and does it have good exhaust and fans?

@johnnyboogalo4897 9 ай бұрын

@@wangusbeef86 Yeah i undervolted my 4090 and still runs great and ended up switching the ryzen 7900x to the non x.Same performance mostly and runs cooler.Everyone should undervolt 4090 unless you need it for non gaming stuff like rendering and whatnot.

@PatrickPissurno 9 ай бұрын

Cool indeed, but without power draw figures it's not a full picture. Would love to see how much the XTX was pulling when overclocked to that extent

@nando03012009 9 ай бұрын

I have the xfx merc 310 rx 7900xtx and with the '' rage '' setting. Mine pulls 504 watts while gaming. Also the clocks hit a little over 3ghz sustained for 2 hours of gaming. Temps are good. 87 hot spot and 65 core.

@olivermaddaford6689 9 ай бұрын

@@nando03012009 i just ordered the exact same card model, any chance for my 750 watt psu?

@jasontodd5953 8 ай бұрын

LOL...500 watts meanwhile Im playing cyberpunk 4k, max psycho settings, full RT (not path), Dlss Quality and generation 100fps solid. Powers target set to 70% using between 270-300 watts thats it.

@olivermaddaford6689 8 ай бұрын

oh thats great to know thanks! just bought one with a 750watt psu and was worried@@jasontodd5953

@nando03012009 8 ай бұрын

@@jasontodd5953 right.. we all believe you. 100 frames with ray tracing and only pulling 300 watts at 4k? You must have some crazy future gpu. The 4090 can't pull such frames.

@KraNisOG 10 ай бұрын

I have a 3080 rn and I'd love to upgrade to a 7900 xtx However, the 7900 xtx performs worse in Blender than the 3080, so it's just something I can't do. But I will always reccomend the 7900xtx over the 4090 or 4080 for gamers.

@josephclarence397 10 ай бұрын

actually, blender recently released version 3.6 which adds support for the hardware ray-tracing acceleration on all AMD cards that support it, so that might not be the case anymore.

@brugj03 10 ай бұрын

AMD sucks for productivity. They just don`t care.

@josephclarence397 10 ай бұрын

@brugj03 partially true. AMD has been sitting flat on their ass about ROCm (think AMD CUDA) for years, and software devs don't really want to optimize for their cards because it's like 15% of the market share

@NoidoDev 10 ай бұрын

@@brugj03 AMD is much smaller than NVIDIA and can't pay that many devs. This is thanks to anti-competitive behavior in the past, btw. Intel, Nvidia and M$ are all where they are now, thanks to that, and still profit from it.

@yuvanraj2271 10 ай бұрын

@@NoidoDev Bs. Many of these softwares use proprietary techs of these company. Cuda, iray etc. They didn't have competition and they didn't open source them. That is not anti competitive. Not allowing competition's tech is anti competitive. The competition should make their own tech and involve the Dev's to integrate that tech. And most of the tech u use in computer's are Intel's.

@jjlw2378 10 ай бұрын

So a waterblocked, custom looped, XOC bios 7900xtx almost matches/beats a stock 4090 in .01% lows in 3 games. Thats not really a convincing argument. Lol.

@unavailable291 10 ай бұрын

$600-$700 cheaper...

@mrhappy8966 10 ай бұрын

Not only cheaper it doesn't have a faulty power connector that novideo blames on users, such a crap company oh and it doesn't even have the newest display port technology, not that it matters there droves of fans will pay anything blindly.

@TheNorwegianDronePilot 10 ай бұрын

Here in Norway where I live, the RTX 4090 is about 60% more expensive than the RX 7900 XTX. So yes, the RTX 4090 is NOT worth it in any ways.

@IgorBozoki1989 10 ай бұрын

In my country RTX 4090 is 70% more expensive than RX 7900 XTX

@thecrimsonreaper7106 10 ай бұрын

In my country its 120%

@Notyouraveragename 10 ай бұрын

The 4090 is supposedly supposed to be 50%-60% faster as well but when the gap is a 330 fps vs 500 fps on mainstream 75-144 hz monitors, you might literally be never able to see outside of running 2048x2048 imgs on stable diffusion, it might be a little redundant. Definitely both probably overkill though. Anything below 60 fps is kinda sluggish but usable without stuttering (outside of fps). Anything over 100 fps you start to hit real diminishing returns outside of fps. Higher fps will always make getting headshots easier akin to following a fly under a strobelight where it moves 5 inches on every flash when you have a thumbtack sized headshot box. But for enjoying nature, 60 fps seems enough but it never hurts to have more if budget is no concern.

@JoaquinSabin 10 ай бұрын

Got a brand new Merc310 7900 XTX a few weeks ago for $880. For $720 less than a 4090 I’ll take slightly less performance any day. Plus I’m not worried about the connector melting

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

U got like 93% of 4090 performnce (RT off) for like $880 Vs $1600 (narly half price Lol) Am also bought " 7900xtx Hellhound Model " last week.. for $850 ($985 with tax) Cheapest 4090 was like $1600 ($1950 with tax).. so yeah.. double price for 7% People over use argument of RT & DLSS3.. even 4090 can't handle high RT titles without sacrificing half peromance.. also DLCC with Frame Gen BS is like fake fps with 2x ms delay.. pure performance is better ATM RT will be a thing in RTX 5000 at best case scenario

@w00t692 9 ай бұрын

@@Jack_Sparrow131 80% of the performance at best. 93% my fucking ass lol.

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

@w00t692 80% yeah sure whatever buddy, believe what you want Minimum I seen was like 85% in Nvidia titles Give me 1 optimized game that run 80% on 7900xtx compared to 4090 & I'll even delete my comment & give you 1 extra game code as a friend token 🔑

@w00t692 9 ай бұрын

@@Jack_Sparrow131 the literal average it's slower is 21% some outfits found as high as 27% and as low as 19% but either way, it's straight up still very close to 20% faster overall.

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

@w00t692 yeah nice source you got there fan boooi.. I checked legit reviews and the difference was barely 10% more or less Some cheap reviews compare reference model 7900xtx compared to aftermarket cooler 4090.. so yeah be more careful where you get the source from

@Styler_144 9 ай бұрын

im experiencing the same issues on my RTX 3080. i mostly have 6-7 displays connected, and very often when switching cables around, the displays just go blank and the whole computer freezes. Although im running two additional gt 1030's for the side screens, it still should not happen. Your Monitor/TV Reviews are a godsend for the Community! Thanks for being that guy!

@Kankipappa 9 ай бұрын

Same issues with RTX 2080 but just few as 2-3 screens. That's one of the reason I went and actually got 7900 XTX instead of 4090/4080, I just got fed up the bad drivers that nvidia has released for the last 2 years. I lost HDR support for 4k 120hz on the last point when 500-series drivers were released and that was the "FU nvidia" moment I made the actual switch.

@machoalright 9 ай бұрын

could you let us know what xtx7900 you got and do a quick review after a month of use of this card? thanks

@TheGetFreshFlow 10 ай бұрын

Been running an rx6800 since Sept of last year. Got it for $342 shipped. Its been great. No issues at all. NP w/ AMD for me.

@clinged2711 10 ай бұрын

That is an extremely good deal, even in today standards

@TheGetFreshFlow 10 ай бұрын

@@clinged2711 Timeframe was right after the who thing with Eth mining going obsolete and right b4 Jensens 40 series keynote. Made an offer on ebay and seller took it. Timing was good.

@andrewsolis2988 10 ай бұрын

Swapped my wife's 3090 for a 7900 XTX Taichi White Edition. She swears it feels like gaming on a whole new system lol. She claims that even The Witcher Remastered feels and looks better on AMD drivers. Have to take her word for it. I've always been on AMD GPUs so I can not attest to that but she loves here 7900 XTX and scolds me for not switching her earlier 😂

@mrhappy8966 10 ай бұрын

Its because nvidia looks like crap compared to amd cards, trust me i know i had a 6800xt and a 3080 swapped the 68xt out to try the 3080 and the picture looked more blurry and the colors were lacking, and yes before the nvidia fanboys start attacking me i changed the settings in the nvidia panel to full rgb instead of limited.

@flouse. 10 ай бұрын

@@mrhappy8966some would say it’s placebo, but in my competitive titles such as apex and overwatch, the 7900xtx has higher motion clarity that made aiming feel easier and the input lag felt nice as well.. not too sure why that is compared to the 4080 I have right now

@mrhappy8966 10 ай бұрын

@@flouse. I was used to my rx 6800xt when i put in that 3080 it just didn't look as good in any game, i was gifted the 3080 because it was the card i wanted when i thought i settled for the 6800xt, ended up selling the 3080 to a good friend and kept the 68xt.

@andrewsolis2988 9 ай бұрын

I will say that before we swapped them, she had Sea of Thieves up. I can honestly say her HDR was better on the AMD card, no doubt. It looked more vibrant for sure

@nasko235679 9 ай бұрын

I don't understand why you couldn't just run the XTX stock and show a more reasonable and realistic comparison. This is absolutely maxed out, souped up, binned XTX consuming how many watts again (600?) versus a stock founders 4090. If you get a 2x8 pin variant of the 7900XTX you're going to get much less performance than if you get something like an ASRock Taichi and then there's yet another level and that's going watercooled on a binned card (aqua) like you did. I can guarantee you that at least a few people would run out and buy a reference 7900XTX because of this video and when they go home they'd see up to 20% reduced performance.

@limitlesswave 9 ай бұрын

A bold decision. I'd love to know more details on your experience when using video editing software such as Davinci and PowerDirector.

@recklessthor4 9 ай бұрын

I use Lightroom for pictures and can play games and photoedit simultaneously which is a hefty workload. No problems

@bshinjp 10 ай бұрын

I own a 4090. But I tell all my friends not to get a 4090 because all my friends only game at 1440p at most. You don't need a 4090 for 1440p gaming. I play only on 4K so that's different for me. Again, 4090 is only needed if you game in 4K.

@tomtomkowski7653 9 ай бұрын

Or when you use Blender, UnrealEngine, or other software that can utilize CUDA cores. Or when you want to play VR games. But yeah, to play at 1440p the 4090 is a waste of money.

@MrGorpm 9 ай бұрын

For now anyway.

@daviddahlstrom192 9 ай бұрын

Or VR -- which on today's higher-end headsets is basically two 4K screens simultaneously.

@xsamitt 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for not being so over the top.....keeping it real like this gets me watching more!

@jhonatanpereira2552 10 ай бұрын

I changed my old vega 56 for a 7900 xtx, very happy with it, and in my country the difference between it and a 4080 and 4090 is even worse than in the USA market.

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

welcome to the club.. already changed my 6800xt to 7900xtx 6800xt was doing good, but my 4k 120Hz setup is not suitble for 6800xt 7900xtx is overkill for anything below 4k.. I had like 70% more fps compared my 6800xt.. Still.. I hate the high power draw which make my case hot.. my 4 fans case barely can handle OC 7900xtx Lol

@jhonatanpereira2552 9 ай бұрын

@@Jack_Sparrow131 thx!, what case you use? i had the same problem on my old case, i change for corsair 4000D airflow and now my 7900 get insane clock speeds without i touch anytyhing and stay very cool.

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

@jhonatanpereira2552 I have Cougar Panzar (large mid tower) which have good airflow 7900xtx have great cooler, but the issue is the other parts of your computer My GPU stay cool.. but when I opened case side panel, I touched the Ram stikcs which were hot & other parts.. (was benchmarking) so the gpu was at 100% usage

@ritchienithoo9479 10 ай бұрын

Please make a follow up video to give us your experience. I’m hesitating between a xtx and a 4080.

@Jaycy845 10 ай бұрын

I’ve had both and ended up going with the 4080. If you got a micro center near you, try one of them out. Their return policy is fantastic.

@Fr00stee 10 ай бұрын

might be better to get an xtx if you can find a good deal

@XX-_-XX420 10 ай бұрын

It depends how long you stick with a card imo, nvidia starts of better but with time amd always gets better.

@whataday443 10 ай бұрын

It's all down to whether or not you want to play with ray tracing. If you don't care about it, then the 7900XTX will perform better overall and is cheaper. As soon as you enable RT though, the 4080 consistently beats the XTX by a good 20%.

@anjaanmusafir8556 10 ай бұрын

7900 XTX is Better Than RTX 4080

@ahmetdag1340 9 ай бұрын

I couldn't understand the part where you talk about DP2.1. So if my monitor is DP1.4a, does having DP2.1 on the GPU change anything? In that configuration, am I still not forced to use DSC to get 4K 144Hz on PC?

@joshhardin666 10 ай бұрын

I'm really not sure why your computer was freezing up when hotplugging displays... I've done this quite a bit and I haven't experienced this problem with windows 11.. it would happen from time to time with 10, but windows 11's enhanced treatment of external displays changed all that for me. I would be curious if anything got logged during the time of your issue and what it pointed to... it would also be helpful to know what else is installed on your system as far as cpu, platform, etc. (i've been on an x470 or x570 chipset running a 3700 and 5950x for a while). It may also help to look for updated motherboard bios as well as that often improves the stability of a platform.

@IndigoVikingTV 9 ай бұрын

I actually have this same issue as him and glad I'm not alone. Fully updated BIOS and drivers, Windows 10, 3950x, 64gb ram. I didn't have this issue with the 2080ti I upgraded from

@PimHoffmann1988 10 ай бұрын

I bought the 7900XTX. My first AMD GPU ever. I've bought Nvidia cards ever since the 8800GTX. Enough is enough, blind loyalty to a brand that will ask the highest price they possibly can while also cutting costs on for example the DP 1.4 is affirming they can get away with it. Time to put my money where my mouth is. I wasn't happy with Nvidia's antics so I choose for AMD this time around, saving a pretty penny in the process. The best way to get huge corporations to change their ways is to vote with your wallet.

@inmypaants 9 ай бұрын

Similar for me, always had Nvidia (970,1080Ti, 3080) but decided to go AMD with the 7900XTX and have been really impressed so far. I’ve had one driver issue, which required a DDU and roll back to the previous version to resolve, but that was an occasional issue with Nvidia for me too. All in all, great card and happy I opted to save 20% over the 4080

@gavinderulo12 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately amd cards are useless for deeplearning. So I went with the 4090. Also RT is important to me. But imo both companies are garbage at the moment. The 4090 at least is great value compared to the 3090.

@mmadevgame 9 ай бұрын

@@gavinderulo12 It's worse but not useless. I've used SharkAI easily on my 7900 xtx. If you use AI for work then sure, but if you just want to play around generating some images or chatbots AMD is absolutely fine.

@gavinderulo12 9 ай бұрын

@@mmadevgame I have to be able to implement models in pytorch and tensorflow. These frameworks only support cuda.

@OfficialJamesNewberry 10 ай бұрын

Let us know how the 7900xtx does for you brother. I personally have a 6900xt and want to get a 7900xtx but I was not wanting to deal with early adoption (Driver) issues.

@DsLmaNiaC 10 ай бұрын

Go for a 4000 card. Much better in every aspect.

@gren7061 10 ай бұрын

@@DsLmaNiaCYou mean much more expensive in every aspect

@Jaycy845 10 ай бұрын

There are a metric fuck ton of driver issues with the 7000 series… be forewarned

@xalenthas 10 ай бұрын

@@Jaycy845 and yet I've yet to encounter a single one. I have a 7900XTX Nitro+ Card

@Serandi 10 ай бұрын

Had a RX 6900 XT LC Top Edition XTX Chip it was a nice card but I went with the 4090 since october 2022 and I'm so happy! Sold the RX 6900 XT LC for 1000€🎉

@javiermartinez8809 10 ай бұрын

This was and actual good video stick to this roots , you actually convince me to get the 7900xtx I wanted to pull the trigger for quite a while , thank you

@MrGyyro 10 ай бұрын

What's your hotspot on your aqua? I just got mine and it's was hitting 112c before lapping it and switching to Thermal Grizzly Kryosheet. brought it down to 82c max at 3200mhz 2742hrz on the memory pulling 654 watts.

@GraphicallyChallenged 10 ай бұрын

Yeah the paste job was terrible. I dropped 27c repasting.

@MrGyyro 10 ай бұрын

@@GraphicallyChallenged I did the repasted first with hydronaut it melted it out after a few days, I saw a good improvement with the sheets. even base temps were 5c better.

@davidbrennan5 10 ай бұрын

It is good to support more than one manufacturer. Having competition is good for the consumer. AMD cards have been solid for a while now.

@Sirslicey 10 ай бұрын

I went AMD for the first time recently with an XFX Merc310 7900 XT and I couldn't be happier really. I have a really solid overclock too that nets ~12.7% performance increase in 3DMark Speed Way. I mostly play Overwatch, or other multi-player titles, and could generally care less about ray-tracing performance. The only thing I truly miss is Nvidia Reflex, but Reflex is not worth the Nvidia premium, as it would be better to spend that money on the extra X. The way I see it, by the time ray-tracing becomes the standard, which I'm sure it will in time, AMD will have stepped up their game in that department anyways. That time is not now, however, as most games and gamers still approach ray-tracing as a novelty. That said, these 7900's are no slouch when it comes to ray-tracing either, and it is more than an enjoyable experience in the latest AAA titles. In all, this is a weird generation where, outside of niche circumstances, Nvidia doesn't really make sense unless it's an RTX 4090 and you simply want the best that money can buy today, or perhaps you value the high efficiency of Ada Lovelace and are working with a lower wattage restriction. It can make more sense to go with Ada Lovelace to maximize your PSU's wattage rather than upgrade the PSU and hurt the pocketbook, I suppose. Of course there is CUDA as well.

@SkillerWolfCFM 10 ай бұрын

do you have more than 1x 144Hz+ monitor ? If yes, is your idle power on 100W ? I have XFX Merc 310 but 7900XTX instead which is black edition and Im having 100W on idle. Own it 2 months already and still the issue wasnt fixed even with the latest drivers... Its so annoying

@Sirslicey 10 ай бұрын

@@SkillerWolfCFM Yes, I have: 1 360Hz @ 1080p, 1 144Hz @ 1080p, and 1 60Hz @ 1080p, for 3 monitors in total. My idle GPU Board Power is about 85-90 W. It's not ideal and I know that, but that was the compromise I was willing to make when purchasing this card. I can hope that things will be ironed out over time, but I won't hold my breath. Edit: I should add though that I have heard many Nvidia users have the same issue with multi-monitor configurations, though maybe not to the same degree.

@matthewbusse1059 10 ай бұрын

@@SkillerWolfCFM I had the same problem with a 3070; I forget what the solution was but it wasn't a driver update

@SkillerWolfCFM 10 ай бұрын

@@matthewbusse1059 seen people suggesting making own resolution trough CRU which decreases color depth from 10bit to 6bit and it didn't help me... I have 2x 27" QHD 170Hz and 165 Hz. It has to be driver issue as before that I had RX 5700xt and didn't have over 30W on idle. Also not only the power is high on idle but the VRAM is stuck at 2700 MHz

@Sirslicey 10 ай бұрын

@@SkillerWolfCFM I could be wrong, but I think VRAM clock being locked is by design. I think it's possible that the RX 7900 series being multi-chip modules versus monolithic die designs results in much higher idle power usage. It is possible that this can be improved over time, as they have in the latest driver update for some multi-monitor configurations, but it is probably a quirk/characteristic of the RX 7900 series as it stands. All of the so-called fixes seem to just reduce the collective monitor load on the graphics card, which really isn't a fix, but a workaround at best. Personally, I don't want to reduce the resolution, refresh rate, or color depth of my monitors to lower idle power usage.

@ZearouAyedea497 9 ай бұрын

I noticed that at high refresh rates monitors can have synchronization issues with RTX 4090 cards. I'm not sure if this is a problem with the RTX 4090 hardware itself, but I've tried Zotac and MSI branded units on an Alienware AW2721D and got the same problem on HDMI. I forget if the results are the same on DisplayPort.

@Phil_529 7 ай бұрын

Nonsense. I have a 4090 and the AW2721D and it works perfectly. No reason to use HDMI in this configuration, you're doing it wrong.

@devilhanzo1 9 ай бұрын

i have current a i5 6600k with a 3060 12gib, my goal is a 7900xt for ~700euro for my new planned system, everything else makes no sense, so I have to wait until the prices drop a little bit^^

@joshhardin666 10 ай бұрын

As far as "nobody giving amd a try", that's certainly valid. for gaming specifically, AMD does have a great product on the top end. the 7900xtx and 4080, from what I understand are pretty much neck in neck. if you can push it a little more, it could be in range of a 4090 in some workloads. but moving to amd you lose cuda (if you do any video editing with premiere, cg with blender, compositing with aftereffects, or want to do any kind of deep learning workloads (stable diffusion, wifu 2x, etc.), you lose dlss (which is way better than fsr), you lose out on physx, hairworks, rtx broadcast (which I use in obs for ai keying and background noise removal), and I think nvidia also edges out on ray tracing performance. I would *love* to see AMD compete at the top end, and I love that they keep trying, but until they get an efficient cuda compatibility layer, improve their ai up-scaling, and continues to upgrade their ray tracing game.

@adi6293 9 ай бұрын

Hairworks does work on AMD and technically so does PhysX as its mostly run on CPU in 9 out of 10 games, I haven't see a proper PhysX game that's run on the gpu in a while and for ai stuff AMD does have thei own noise suppression in the drivers, I'm not sure if it's for RX7000 only though, they also have stuff to stream games that's meant to be better than shadowplay too, they aren't as far behind as it might seem 😜

@joshhardin666 9 ай бұрын

@@adi6293 thank you for the update. It's been a generation or two since I looked at the hair works and physx stuff. I just know that I had a 7970 when borderlands came out and the experience was diminished.

@adi6293 9 ай бұрын

@@joshhardin666 And it would still be diminished now 🤣🤣 nVidia is an asshole company and if you don't have their gpu the symulation on uses 1 CPU core which of course it's enough in games like Borderlands which is lucky because there is only few games with full PhysX simulation most use lighter version of it 😜

@wwjnz9263 10 ай бұрын

My son currently has a 1660ti, and I want to get him an upgrade from AMD. He plays mostly fighting games, and I'm looking to put him at the same level as a 3070. What AMD cards should I be looking at? I was initially thinking to get him a RX 6800XT, but if theres a better AMD option to go with, then I am all ears. Thanks in advance.

@EzaneeGires 10 ай бұрын

6800 xt is a beast and outperforms the 3070. If you can get a good deal go for it

@Adri9570 10 ай бұрын

According to some tests that Daniel Owen did: RTX 3060 (12GB) + 20~40% = RX 6700 XT = RTX 3060 ti RTX 3070 + 18% = RX 6800 RX 6800 + 15% = RX 6800 XT RX 6800 XT = RTX 4070 RTX 3080 = RTX 4070 being just a bit better the 3080 The minimum of 12GB of VRAM are crucial for 1440p. Watch the Daniel Owen reviews of the 6700XT and other similar GPUs to know their relative performance and compare them with the prices you see in shops to get the best price/performance.

@whataday443 10 ай бұрын

6750XT is a bit better than a 3070, and it's quite cheap.

@GraphicallyChallenged 10 ай бұрын

I’d buy a 6700 XT. They’re cheap and get the job done.

@mathewstewart1692 10 ай бұрын

6700XT through 6800XT would be significant upgrades from a 1660ti, if you can get the 6800XT then go for it. It's an absolute beast at 1440p. I tested a reference 6800XT that I bought my brother before giving it to him on my 3440x1440 monitor and it crushed everything I threw at it, Spiderman, Hogwarts, CoD Warzone, Dying Light 2, etc... It can even do some light ray tracing with fsr2 quality enabled.

@WillySolares 9 ай бұрын

I think this is de video I was expecting in order to lean on favor of the 7900XTX...Any advice on how to get the Linux drivers working properly?

@morissonmarcel9144 9 ай бұрын

I already had two RX 7900 XTX cards. First reference model with Vapor Chamber issues (RMA). Second one AIB Sapphire Pulse version (asking for RMA also). The GPU is AWSOME for performance and raw power. Impressive generational performance jump considering Radeon 60XX series. However, the power consumption is OBSENE! Idle power draining almost 200W with High Refresh Rate monitors is no SENSE. COIL WHINE is REAL in absolutely all models, and in my case, it's almost impossible concentrate in gaming during ultra loud coil whine noise. In recent vídeo @optimumtech highlighted this issue and, for what we know, there is no fix yet due the Chiplet architecture. I bought a 4070 last month and, until now, I'm chocked with the consumer and gaming experience difference between these cards. My Gigabyte Eagle RTX 4070 OC Card delivers to much with absolute no noise, fitting perfectly in my mini case and contributing to low profile thermals and power consumption.

@Kankipappa 9 ай бұрын

New drivers couple of days ago fixed some of the power usage on desktop, my 4k 120hz with hdr off is now at 12w while on hdr it's like 20w instead of 100w. Same for my 1440p 240hz screen which is still gsync chipset, from 100w to 50w at least (i only use it for CSGO etc so i won't run it on 24/7). I feel like the monitor really needs to support freesync and have it on to have reasonable power usage. Also the latest drivers unlocked the ability to make custom timings on the resolutions to avoid higher power usage with more relaxed screen blanking modes.

@ers-tj4to 9 ай бұрын

I'm waiting for the 7950 xtx since I've heard it will be just as powerful if not more than the 4090. If not, then the 8000 cards for sure.

@softieboi 8 ай бұрын

there wont be anything like this.

@Phil_529 7 ай бұрын

lol

@joshhardin666 10 ай бұрын

"ancient" dp1.4 connectors with DSC are enough to do 8k60hz or 4k 120hz, and you CAN convert dp1.4 to hdmi 2.1. I use a trio of lg cx 4k 120hz oleds that use hdmi 2.1 for input. I use a dp 1.4 to hdmi 2.1 adapter and it works fine. the only thing I CAN'T do with the adapter is adaptive sync (so no gsync on that display), everything else works great at 4k 120hz including 10 bit 4:4:4 with hdr. I'm not aware of any displays that actually use dp 2.1 yet. I'm not sure what you mean about "can't downsample from a higher resolution" - I can lower the resolution just fine, i haven't looked but I know i can do 1080p, I think i can even go lower than that if i wanted) and i'm not sure about the custom resolution thing as I've never needed to. What is the purpose of creating custom resolutions? why would you not just use the full resolution of a display as advertised by EDID? I don't get it.

@MariNate1016 9 ай бұрын

I love my 7900 Xtx Red Devil LE. Had it since launch, it was 1100 and worth every penny in my opinion.

@josephoverstreet5584 9 ай бұрын

What are your oc settings? I’m only getting 33,339 and 16,665 on my oc scores lol

@HolloVVpoint 9 ай бұрын

I got the 7900xtx Nitro + from Sapphire because I’ve always loved their GPUs and their PCBs are always top quality. For me money wasn’t really an issue but honestly I ain’t finna spend 2k on no card when to me I don’t really notice the difference in day to day gaming.

@oleg7044 9 ай бұрын

And if you look on ue5, it also looks like with that engine, rt isn´t anymore that big thing for amd gpu´s. I also got the sapphire nitro+. A very solid/stable gpu (cooling is also top etc).

@xeno23094 10 ай бұрын

i hope you give a 7900 xtx review because i want to get one eventually, as a huge upgrade from a 3060 it'll be good to know

@inglbrute 10 ай бұрын

I can't give yu an actual review, but I upgraded from a 3070 to the xtx, and a 4k monitor, so far I run everything maxed, minus RT, and Ican't complain. I haven't even tried FSR yet. It's worth it. Ialso recommend getting at least a 1440 display, if you don't already have one, to actually help justify the upgrade. Visuals are so much better over 1080. 4k is awesome. That alone, plus variable refrsh, is worth it all.

@jckl9884 10 ай бұрын

@@inglbrute 23.8 1440p 165hz aoc q24g2a is worth it or better 27inch?

@Jack_Sparrow131 9 ай бұрын

7900xtx will give you 24GB (compared to 8gb of 3060) 7900xtx will give you around 3x more fps (compared of 3060) 7900xtx will give you 2x RT performance (compared of 3060) 7900xtx ($880) is 2nd strongest GPU on the market which has 93% performance of RTX 4090 ($1600) But be warned.. U need 750w gold PSU minimum (800w bronze)

@inglbrute 9 ай бұрын

@@jckl9884 I think 1440 will look awesome at 27". 27 is much better than 23, IMO. Easier on the eyes, especially in gaming. 32 would be even better. Personally I'm using a 43" vsync 144hz and it's great.

@pju28 10 ай бұрын

Grate Choice you make! - Nice Video! keep on it! thumbs up

@SupraSav 10 ай бұрын

I was having issues too. 5950x/4090/x570 reinstalled my OS, disabled TPM(Win10) and everything is running better than I ever had it. There were a few hitches depending on what platform you're on(AM4/AM5/Intel 12/13). It's getting to be a bigger and bigger task to keep all the software and hardware up to date and playing nicely. Hope you enjoy the XTX. I actually bought an XTX at launch, and ended up switching to a 4090 in a couple of weeks - I'm sure all those driver issues are all ironed out now. Just irked me when it said ON THE BOX 8k capable and it couldn't even do 4k well. If they were running as good as they are now, I would definitely not have a 4090.

@Jefferson-kd6it 10 ай бұрын

i just got a 4090 and some games are stuttering for me alot idk how to fix it , i tried full clean install drivers but still have the issue do u know how to fix it ?

@mqsbd 10 ай бұрын

@@Jefferson-kd6it Ensure you have a good power supply (at least 1000 W)

@Jefferson-kd6it 10 ай бұрын

@@mqsbd yea i have an EVGA 1000w gold

@domenicandreozzi4067 10 ай бұрын

@@Jefferson-kd6it I definitely suggest getting a 1200W because the 4090 is just way too demanding. Also stuttering can happen from bottleneck, so I'd say upgrade ur cpu as well. If ur having problems with screen tearing you might have to suffer and put on vsync. The better alternative is to get a nvidia gsync compatible monitor. That's way more reliable and doesn't limit your framerate.

@XxViciousxX 9 ай бұрын

@@Jefferson-kd6it Try tuning your RAM I was getting a little sutter here and there. Once I tightened the sub-timings of my RAM it really smoothed out most games (besides badly optimized games). That is assuming your CPU is not bottlenecking the 4090 too badly.

@03chrisv 10 ай бұрын

Thats a very specific use case. I guess if you're a TV/Monitor reviewer it makes sense, though aside from this niche most people should not ditch their RTX 4090 for a 7900 XTX. The RTX 4090 will be the better card 95% of the time in a wide array of applications, especially anything involving CUDA.

@brugj03 10 ай бұрын

The man is an idiot, you get it. He`s just doing something to prove he`s an idiot and confirm the name of his channel.

@SkillerWolfCFM 10 ай бұрын

RX 7900XTX owner there... Its not 100% perfect either. Worst part is 100W power on idle while having 2 high refresh monitors and still not fixed after new drivers Edit : Yeah, I did remove GPU Drivers thanks to DDU and installed them manually through AMD Website but it didnt help

@Arsaneus 10 ай бұрын

Really? I had the exact same power draw up until the newest driver. Now it uses between 17-50W with one 4k and one WQHD screen.

@SkillerWolfCFM 10 ай бұрын

@@Arsaneus damn... I even used DDU to remove drivers and download them again and it didn't help :(

@Sirslicey 10 ай бұрын

@@Arsaneus So there is still hope for those of us with high idle power usage then!

@SkillerWolfCFM 10 ай бұрын

@@Sirslicey hope it gets resolved at least this year :D

@w00t692 9 ай бұрын

How is your 4090 scoring like almost 8% below mine at stock in Timespy Extreme?

@josephoverstreet5584 9 ай бұрын

What do you mean about the oc bios. How do you get that.

@DainHunter 10 ай бұрын

Im surprised you didnt mention that at launch msrp the 4090 is 1.6x more expensive than XTX (600$ more) for an avg. 25% performance increase. Thats a crap deal.

@benjammin9745 10 ай бұрын

Isn't it all a crap deal this gen? Amd could have done better or lowered their prices. According to people who know more than me, rdna3 had real potential but they fumbled the ball in some key areas. Not to say the cards are bad but the prices are a little high. I won't even mention nvidia.

@brugj03 10 ай бұрын

No it isn`t. It has way better software support and stability. You can also use it as a professsional in productivity.. It`s a way better quality option. Most gamers don`t care they like cheap crap.

@benjammin9745 10 ай бұрын

@@brugj03I'm not arguing which is a better buy. Just that both companies have raised prices higher than they would have in the past. Given everything else is the same. The only reason they can pull it off is because there's only 2 companies in the entire market. Hence them all being a crap deal. At least when compared to everything that has happened before now. What else is there?

@DainHunter 10 ай бұрын

@@brugj03 I have a 3080ti FE. I like Nvidia but they are insanely overpriced this gen. Even the 3090 was pure trash. 1500$ for a card with 10% perf gain over the 700$ 3080. 800$ more for 14GB of vram is the most trash deal ive ever heard of.

@brugj03 10 ай бұрын

@@benjammin9745 As you say, they`re companies. It`s a business. They`re not into giving it away, you have to pay up for the privilege. If not, they don`t care. They have AI now. Also, they don`t care about gamers and their opinions. Most of them are poor losers anyway.

@Swoleworm 10 ай бұрын

Going to upgrade to the next gen highest end option on AMD's side from my 3080 10gb.

@XX-_-XX420 10 ай бұрын

I might do it if amd offers good cards for the price, and I'll definitely buy Intel pretty excited for battlemage.

@BlackParade01 10 ай бұрын

Is there a specific reason why you're going for AMD? Personally, I wouldn't be able to go without DLSS and Nvidia's software features.

@Swoleworm 10 ай бұрын

@@BlackParade01 I would have upgraded this gen but the jump wasn't as necessary. I don't like to pay for brand names and at this point that's what I feel like I'm doing with Nvidia. If they provide something close to Nvidia's high end for 1000 like in this gen I'm jumping on it. DLSS is good but in my honest opinion not necessarily as ground breaking as people make it out to be and AMD has FSR.

@Swoleworm 10 ай бұрын

@@XX-_-XX420 honestly another very good option. I'm looking on getting a 4k monitor though. Moving away from 1440p. While I know I'm firmly in the land of diminishing returns when moving to 4k I'm trying to mitigate that by not going with Nvidia. Their prices are ridiculous for the performance difference

@robertkorth2911 10 ай бұрын

@@BlackParade01same!

@matthewpearce1416 9 ай бұрын

Great balanced video without any influence I am sold to this video! Well done!

@FattrTV 10 ай бұрын

Ive been looking for a D 2.1 MST adaptor for months. IF I can find one I will go to AMD again without a question, would lve tto have my computer set up only have 2 cables from my machine to the desk. But until I do find that I have not made a descision. Cleaner desk is worth working around the issue I would deal with with AMD

@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords 10 ай бұрын

I went from an rx580 for an 7900xtx and the performance is Legendary!!!

@XX-_-XX420 10 ай бұрын

I'd sell mine if it wasn't so good looking. I got the manli Gallardo 4090 and it's honestly one of the top 5 best looking cards ever.

@benjammin9745 10 ай бұрын

Part computer, part decor, part art work?

@SagittariusAx 10 ай бұрын

eh ? the best looking one, the FE by far...

@XX-_-XX420 10 ай бұрын

@@SagittariusAx no even if you want a super minimalistic design it's not. I will say I really don't like the FE since FE cards are always they loudest, hottest and have the worst cooling of all cards, but yeah I just don't like anything about them. I'd then probably go for the non RGB inno3d cards or something like that.

@iqman8816 9 ай бұрын

R9 7900/Rx 7900xtx/Ddr5 6000mhz cl30/2k monitor. Is that okay? I want to upgrade from full hd gaming.

@andrecoetzee8629 10 ай бұрын

I did not want to support Nvidia this time around either and I picked up an XFX Reference Design 7900 XT at the start of the year. Unfortunately after a few months of diagnosing and switching cases, improving case cooling, trying vertically mounting, basically thinking that I was the problem the whole time, I finally realized this particular GPU had a massive issue where the difference between hotspot and normal GPU temp (Delta) would be 30 - 35 degrees celsius, where it's only supposed to be 15 - 20 degrees celsius. I saw the hotspot temp go up to about 106c whilst playing cyberpunk for instance, and the sidepanel of my case felt the same as when you put your hand against a running kettle. It behaved as though someone in the factory forgot to apply thermal paste to it whilst assembling it or something. Finally I sent the 7900 XT back to the retailer for testing, they determined it has the same issues that I saw and I got back what I paid for it in credit, paid in more and just got a 4080. Now I couldn't be happier. I didn't want to support Nvidia but after months of struggling with the 7900 XT, and not enjoying it because I kept stressing about temps whilst gaming, I couldn't convince myself to replace it with another 7900 XT or even go for the XTX, I just wouldn't have felt excited about it after that experience. So at the end of the day, going Nvidia just made sense for me in that moment, especially considering how efficient Ada Lovelace is in terms of power usage. Nvidia may be be run by terrible people, but boy do they make good graphics cards. Compared to the issues I had with the 7900 XT (which included things like games randomly crashing etc.), it does feel like on Nvidia's side, everything just works.

@mjkittredge 10 ай бұрын

yeah a lot of the reference 7900s had a vapor chamber issue. Thankfull the AIB models were fine. Good thing you didn't get a melting power cable 4090. I had the opposite experience, crap performance and daily crashes with an NVIDIA card. Now that I switched to AMD everything works great and I have zero problems.

@marcinkarpiuk7797 10 ай бұрын

Rdna3 is just rushed too far...

@MardyArcher 9 ай бұрын

Fair enough dude, my Saphire nitro doesn’t go above 77 degrees hot spot at full load for very long periods. Fantastic cooling and performance 😊

@andrecoetzee8629 9 ай бұрын

@@mjkittredge - I remember reading about that and I thought only the 7900 XTX's had that issue, that's one of the reasons why I went with the 7900 XT in January and didn't wanna gun for a 7900 XTX. Oof yeah I wouldn't want to go for a 4090 anyway besides the melting power cable because I'd have to buy a 4K monitor for it to be worth it and then I'm pretty much locking myself in to have to upgrade to every new '90 tier' GPU going forward just to stay up to date. I'm glad things worked out for you in the end with switching to AMD.

@andrecoetzee8629 9 ай бұрын

@@MardyArcher That's awesome man, I am glad to hear. 😊 I will admit when I had the 7900 XT I did put my power limit on +15% for a little extra juice but that wasn't the cause of the huge delta, it just accentuated an issue that already existed on the card. I even told this to the retailer when I sent the card back and instructed them to up the power limit to +15% when testing to see it happen and they agreed with me. Do you run your 7900 XT stock or have you also played around a bit with undervolting it or possibly maxing out the power limit for some extra performance?

@JamesSmith-sw3nk 10 ай бұрын

I've looked hard at 7900xtx but it's only around 20% faster at stock than my 3090. I may end up waiting until next gen for a new card.

@NoidoDev 10 ай бұрын

Sounds reasonable. But as someone who hoped the 3090 would show up on the used market, so the ML/AI crowd can buy them, I don't like this answer.

@jasonhurdlow6607 10 ай бұрын

I also have a 3090, and it maxes everything I play other than VR. For MSFS2020 (and others) in VR a 4090 would be really nice. It's the only thing worth an upgrade. Otherwise... no point.

@christiannielsen8733 9 ай бұрын

18K Time Spy Extreme is a really really sad score. I need to aggressively undervolt my 4090 in order to go that low. 17K is the lowest I can go at 860mV and stock memory. If I want to go any lower, I literally have to cap, power limit or underclock. 20K is what I sit at with a slight undervolt, +1400 on the memory and a ~420W power limit. My card is nothing special from what I can gather. It just barely reaches 3GHz if brute forced to the limit, but will happily do +1700 on the memory, so that makes up for it. I see no point in running it that hard though as I can’t feel the difference and would like to keep it alive long enough to skip a gen.

@w00t692 9 ай бұрын

He talks about hittings 3373 mhz but doesn't realize it's hitting it for 50 milliseconds or some shit. an 18k TSE is dogshit. I, like most 4090 owners, get anywhere from 19.5k to 22k. Starting to suspect he's got some problems with his system to have such low scores on his 4090, both his TS and TSE scores are below average.

@RyeRyeL 9 ай бұрын

I have a 7900xtx after owning a 3090. The 3090 was trash. Died due to dumb design wth uncooled memory on the back. Sold my replacement 3090 and got a 7900xtx for about £50 more. 7900XTX felt like the upgrade i originally wanted. I play mostly Warzone anyway, so this card slaps. Driver updates also keep bringing it closer to the 4090 in other titles anyway. I also have zero coil whine on my 7900XTX. I also could not care less about Nvidias "features" including ray tracing which i only ever turned off on my Ngreedia cards anwyay

@rodhester2166 10 ай бұрын

i purchased the xtx on day one knowing that the drivers would improve and the price. I have had no issues so far and I dont really ever use RT

@rodhester2166 10 ай бұрын

@@eye776 I was way overdue, at the time I was running a 1060 and had waited through covid and mining to start building a new machine. lol.. Prices always go down but heck I got the card in dec. / 7 months ago. .

@LegacySV 10 ай бұрын

I got an rx 7900 xt over the rtx 4070 ti, even the 4070 ti would’ve been better for content and streaming, editing, etc… but the rx 7900 xt is faster while gaming and the extra gram helps alot

@iequalsnoob 10 ай бұрын

hahaha nope

@LegacySV 10 ай бұрын

@@iequalsnoob Huh

@ronniekregar3482 10 ай бұрын

Nvidia will ALWAYS be better for streaming and content creation.

@LegacySV 10 ай бұрын

@@ronniekregar3482 very true, but amd is t that bad now especially since I upgraded from a rtx 3050 ti laptop,

@chapstickbomber 10 ай бұрын

Brother, you have made the right choice. Aqua XTX extreme BIOS is the real nerd GPU. Note, 7900 XTX only supports two full rate DP 2.1 simultaneously, though the HDMI 2.1 has an independent head

@endeshaw1000 9 ай бұрын

Well - I have decided to give my 1000€ team red and bought an 7900XTX and until now "Oohh BOY" I'm very satisfied especially since the most recent driver update 23.7.1 . Playing Beat Saber at around 80Fps, on expert, is really a pleasure and Zenith woks on high like a charm :) - If GPU computing works as well I'm totally convinced that I did the right choice.

@TheBasedSociety 9 ай бұрын

But what display available today doesn't run on the 40 series at full bandwidth?

@NightMotorcyclist 10 ай бұрын

I had no real choice but to go with AMD as they were always priced quite a bit lower than nVidia cards with nearly as much performance (not using ray tracing). Even the last generation, nVidia cards did not drop in price while the Radeon RX 6000 series had massive drops. I would like to get another nVidia card but their pricing is still quite bad.

@CJW0056 9 ай бұрын

Yeah just ordered me an XTX yesterday, coming from a GTX 1080 TI, I just couldn't justify buying ANY Nvidia card this time. The best one I could stomach as far as price was 4070ti, but it's quite weak for its price plus only 12GB vRam on an $800 GPU is laughable.

@alexoqu 9 ай бұрын

This is interesting, I did the same thing I bought a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX and replaced my 4090 for a week straight. However I had to RMA my 7900xtx due to hardware issues aside AMD. It was the rgb light bar and fan sensor went bad. But during the week of me using it daily, I could honestly not tell much of a difference aside when it came to ray tracing. But honestly speaking i did not notice a difference and will give my 7900xtx another run when i get my replacement. 😊 very nice to see others giving AMD a chance.

@AKSSB_Hustle 9 ай бұрын

I did the opposite with cod NVIDIA get lower fps but it runs smoother

@Bearrug 9 ай бұрын

I have both a 4080 and 7900XTX. I love them both to be honest but I must say that I definitely like the XTX a little more due to its better communication with my 5800X3D CPU. Where the XTX falls short though is in VR capability. VR is quite a niche atm, but its not to say that it isnt a growing community. Currently, Nivida has the best VR and graphics encoders on the market which pair with and run VR applications stable. The 7900XTX on the other hand has quite a few issues with its encoders and subsequently deals with quite a lot of stutters and framedrops within VR. Alas, the reason to why I own both a green and red team card. One I use for VR and GPU heavy games, while the other I use for CPU/Balanced but graphically demanding games.

@MARKXHWANG 9 ай бұрын

sorry ass cannot play porn, lol

@brandoncorwin8812 10 ай бұрын

That ASrock waterblock has had had some bad reviews. Are you having any issues with it?

@GraphicallyChallenged 10 ай бұрын

The paste job was bad on mine. Needed to be repasted.

@tstager1978 10 ай бұрын

I have the 7900xtx. I haven't had one driver issue!

@mrhappy8966 10 ай бұрын

That's old news the novideo fanboys always say the drivers on amd are bad when they have improved 1000% in the last 3 years, anyone who is a fan of a corporation is a moron, i hope intel catches up to amd quick so prices go way down for all of us.

@rcvillapando 9 ай бұрын

Good job highlighting PRACTICAL REASONS why you changed your daily driver GPU. Too many times we get caught with “I want the best FPS” blabla, but there’s more to it than just high frames. The inconveniences of daily usage can show how truly valuable or not a product can be.

@orelanic4178 9 ай бұрын

I used to always use NVidia until last year when I went to AMD, it has as work out very well for me with no driver issues.

@Grstrangler 7 ай бұрын

I've got a 7900 XTX 1 week ago and every other game was crashing for no reason with AMD driver timeout issue. Was working fine with the 7600 I had before the 7900. Now I switched to an RTX 4070Ti just to try out this NV gen(I just returned to PC gaming after 3 year) And I gotta admit I'm impressed I only tried Dying Light 2 and it beats the 7900 XTX in every possible way. DLSS looks amazing frame generation doubled my FPS with no visible compromise. That's for sure 7900XTX was my last AMD card. Forums are full of random issues with the 7900XT/XTX for most people it might work fine. In my experience AMD was a buggy mess and with NV I don't have any issues so far and this is just sad.

@L4J4 10 ай бұрын

If you need Cuda cores for anything (don't do this) main reason unfortunately that I'm stuck with Nvidia, otherwise I'd definitely go for a pound to pound AMD. His reasons with DP 2.1 makes sense with the 57" G9 coming soon :)

@GraphicallyChallenged 10 ай бұрын

Very true 👏

@Fr00stee 10 ай бұрын

arent they adding their own amd cuda core thing to the 7900 xtx?

@kaseyboles30 10 ай бұрын

Cuda is the main reason I finally bought an Nvidia card (3060Ti) after 10+ years on ATI/AMD. Programs I needed for a project had either no or crap support for AMD. THIS is what AMD needs to focus on in productivity apps. As a minor reason I wanted to see some ray tracing. Lack of hdr on my main monitor kinda hurts the experience.

@kaseyboles30 10 ай бұрын

@@Fr00steeIt's the app support. Don't care so much how they get it.

@tstager1978 10 ай бұрын

@@kaseyboles30 within the next year or so, cuda will translate and run on AMD hardware. It works now but it's not perfect. They are very close to perfecting it in ROCm. They are just now starting to release rocm for consumer cards as well. Linux only to start but more is coming!

@Aerobrake 10 ай бұрын

The 4090 shoukd have had DP 2.1, its infuriating.

@Serandi 10 ай бұрын

What for? I don't need DP 2.1 HDMI 2.1 is more than enough to play 4k @120Hz

@jemborg 10 ай бұрын

It's the one thing about my 4090 I find infuriating, that it does not have DP 2.1. For the amount of money I paid for the thing it should have been standard. 😤

@Aerobrake 10 ай бұрын

Thats like asking why the GTX 1000 series why it has DisplayPort 2.1 since 1.4 is almost end of life because some high end displays use DSC and chroma subsampling and other reasons. Just saying.

@Adrian-lr5xq 10 ай бұрын

Why? It's even more of a waste on the 7900xtx because of it's inferior performance, Good luck getting 4k 120 FPS out of a 7900xtx.

@monkeybenchmarks 10 ай бұрын

@@Adrian-lr5xq what do you mean by good luck? even my 7900 xt can run games on 4k 120fps

@fr0zen1isshadowbanned99 10 ай бұрын

Try out if Stable Diffusion(Windows Version) works and how hard the FPS impact is when using ENB for Skyrim/Fallout. I just can't find info on those from reliable People.

@Kuli24000 9 ай бұрын

You had nvidia to tv problems too?!?! I thought I was the only one. EVERY 30 series gpu screws with my sony x900h tv. Audio cuts out multiple times every day. Driver installs are hit and miss - might glitch out and show some cached image from previous.

@bartix698 9 ай бұрын

If I was to buy a top tier gpu, then xtx for the win. But replacing 4080 or 4090 for not really faster card? This is some crazy decision making. Looking forward to 8000 ryzen and radeon to upgrade my current setup, this gen is not that much better to be worth upgrading to

@strawverrymilkshake4139 9 ай бұрын

Because he needed a new content and some views.

@cogthusiast1150 9 ай бұрын

I can confirm the display issues with nvidia. Some displays just cause my entire system to freeze and crash via displayport. Doesn't happen on older nvidia cards.

@oakmage 9 ай бұрын

I've had the 7900 XTX since it released and it's been great. I haven't overclocked it and don't use RT.

@egoranonymous3223 10 ай бұрын

I went with the 7900 xtx because Nvidia is such a scuzzy company. I haven't tuned anything yet but Horizon Zero Dawn is running at 250-290 fps.

@w00t692 9 ай бұрын

what a useful amount of framerate vs cranking the res way up to get a better picture.

@brulaapgaapmeester8052 10 ай бұрын

I bought a XTX because it was at least 700 (!) euro cheaper than a 4090. It runs quite nicely. I know DLSS is supposed to be better than FSR, and I'm sure it is, but honestly, FSR2 is fine, and with this card on a 1440p ultrawide I don't need it at all, even with ray tracing.

@IndigoVikingTV 9 ай бұрын

Bro I have the same issue with my PC freezing up!! I switch my main monitor to my gaming PC after work, and almost every time my gaming PC locks up completely.

@ronniekregar3482 10 ай бұрын

Every single graphics card that comes out, this guy makes a video telling you not to buy it and he had a 4090 the whole time lol.

@rollerr 10 ай бұрын

The XTX is a great option for an enthusiast level buyer that's tired of paying the nvidia tax. With the price inching closer to 800 dollars, it's kind of a no brainer. RT to me is still very overrated for the performance cost, especially considering even the 4090 is still having to use upscaling with the heaviest RT implementations.

@michaelmcconnell7302 10 ай бұрын

My guy really needed those couple hundred bucks 😄

@jacobgroves3251 10 ай бұрын

You might be more wealthy than but 600$ is quite alot for me and most people.

@michaelmcconnell7302 10 ай бұрын

@@jacobgroves3251 not to people that buy 4090s

@tstager1978 10 ай бұрын

Your review completely matched my experience!

@onehung 9 ай бұрын

i'll never go back to amd, i could have been a one off but i paired a cpu/gpu a few years ago and holy hell did it give me driver issues galore... never had an issue with intel/nvidia... I"LL GLADLY pay the premium for stability and piece of mind. Also, the fact you got to overclock the hell out of the xtx to even be in the ballpark of the 4090 is hilarious, i'll just overclock the 4090 to be that much ahead again... happy gaming chum! EDIT: His first 2 point are legitimate though, but casual every day normal user won't ever have those issues, 3rd issue is just personal preference to him, not really bashing him for it but in all honesty he could have been "gifted" the xtx to make a video against 4090 for all we know. /shrugs

@getaway260 9 ай бұрын

wow one bad issue from one experience a few years ago you probably would dissapear yourself because somebody ghosted you on the first date

@pcneststayinformed 9 ай бұрын

Great comparison between the two. The 7900 XTX impressed me with 0.1% lows.

@darthdavidr2999 9 ай бұрын

I have a 4090 and my FPS was much higher in two of the games that he so called "TESTED" and i have 0.1% lows in Hogwarts Legacy on mine is 34 FPS 0.1% lows and Jedi survivor 42 0.1% lows so his 4090 is either broken or he made up the results

@pcneststayinformed 9 ай бұрын

@@darthdavidr2999😬. Then he should have cross checked with other 4090 benchmarks.

@darthdavidr2999 9 ай бұрын

@@pcneststayinformed he obviously didn't. you can see JayzTwoCents time spy extreme results are almost 1500 more points on video titled "We need to have a chat about these 4090 Benchmarks..." so something is dodgy about Graphically Challenged video

@inmypaants 9 ай бұрын

Graphs are good and all, but I personally think the primary reason he’s swapping is around display support considering he runs a monitor channel too.

@darthdavidr2999 9 ай бұрын

@@inmypaants That's all well and good and people would have accepted that Nvidia should have put DP2.1 on there, but because he has lied (easily provable) about the benchmarks for clickbait is what is the problem

@NGreedia 10 ай бұрын

Problem is amd is also horribly priced. If the 7900xtx was below $800, I’d be willing to give it a shot although I’ve never spent more than $350 on a gpu before

@miyagiryota9238 10 ай бұрын

Sure nvidia

@emptyshirt 10 ай бұрын

When did $350 get you close to a top tier GPU? 2003?

@crimsonchamp2385 10 ай бұрын

Proud of you brother I got the 7900xt but stand strong on staying under 400$

@shadowrealms2676 9 ай бұрын

hi is a 850watts psu enough for the 7900xtx vapor x?

@getaway260 9 ай бұрын

yes it doesnt go over 419 watts in 4k 100+fps

@bartoszskowronski 10 ай бұрын

and radeon can run more displays at once through displayport/hdmi SMT splitters. Radeon can run 6 monitors at once, geforce only 4. More monitors are recognised by windows but disabled, if you want use monitor nr 7/8/etc you must disable one of monitors 1/2/3/4

@Jaycy845 10 ай бұрын

Former owner of a 7900 xtx red devil here, I give it about a solid two weeks before you regret that decision 😂 my 4080 is pretty dope now

@MAWIMO0 10 ай бұрын

🤨huh

@_under2world_ 10 ай бұрын

how long ago did you try that rx7900xtx and what issue did you ran into?

@MAWIMO0 10 ай бұрын

@@_under2world_ I believe this guy's a bot

@Jaycy845 10 ай бұрын

@@_under2world_ two months ago. I had stutters/ hitches, driver failures, screen artifacts, the works. Basically every nightmare scenario you can think of. When it worked, it was wonderful (particularly in Resident Evil 4 remake)! But holy shit did I have a bunch of issues. I was lucky enough to be able to return it at my Micro center. I picked up a 4080 and have zero issues with it so far.

@MAWIMO0 10 ай бұрын

@@_under2world_ wait nevermind