I Sold My New Land Rover Defender After Only 1 Year

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Performance On Wheels

Performance On Wheels

Жыл бұрын

Today is a sad day here on Performance On Wheels... Moment of silence for the long lost Defender. Today we talk about why we sold the Defender, how we made money on it and what's next! Also our final thoughts too sum up our long term 2021 Defender 90s Review. Thank you all so much for joining us on our journey! See you next time!
#Defender #Landrover #rangerover

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@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
Looking for a heavily deprecated high end luxury SUV. Comment some links on some for sale below!
@giudasilva3651
@giudasilva3651 Жыл бұрын
I would look for a 2011-2013 BMW X5M
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
@@giudasilva3651 seriously? I love the idea of them.
@grnpnzer
@grnpnzer Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at 2016 - 2018 LR RR's with the SDV6 or the SCV8 making sure it has TR2/Auto and ATPC. And low miles. These can be found in the low 50k - 60K range. 🙂
@Japplesnap
@Japplesnap Жыл бұрын
Get a new Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve. You'll be shocked how much of a luxury SUV it has become with the new WL generation.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
@@Japplesnap definitely good first impressions in the GC. I liked the update. I still do not know that I would buy one new for the price. Good used future car IMO. I like other options more at that new price point.
@davidlythgoe8478
@davidlythgoe8478 9 ай бұрын
Two and a half years with my D200 90 and just over 12,000 miles. Not a single problem so far and delighted with it 👍
@CondensedBeef
@CondensedBeef 2 ай бұрын
Currently have a Discovery 5, bought new and I’ve done 81,294 miles on a 71 plate, no issues, best vehicle I’ve ever driven, ordered my Defender D250 this week
@oldcargeezer
@oldcargeezer 8 ай бұрын
No issues whatsoever with my 2022 Defender 90 D250 It's been used daily in my business, on and off road, loaded up and in all weathers.
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver 10 ай бұрын
Its sad when people bash these cars having never been in one or driven them.
@AlexBAlixir98
@AlexBAlixir98 Жыл бұрын
First want to say, your content and knowledge of different types is very good. You deserve way more subs for sure. Thanks for taking time to produce content. Keep it up guys, your effort will be rewarded. As for the Defender, I was here when you first got it. It will be missed. However I know the journey continues. Look forward to the next vehicle you get. The buyer of your Defender can be sure they are getting an excellently maintained vehicle. Thanks for the owner experience. This is valuable to current and future owners.
@JC-xw7ml
@JC-xw7ml Жыл бұрын
I have a 110 p300, with roof rack and ladder, I carry all my tools and stuff in the back (approx 200lbs worth) and as long as I stay under 70 mph I can get mid to high 20’s mpg consistently. Some days in moving traffic of around 60mph I’ve even hit 30mpg. I’m convinced frequent oil changes has helped, one at 8000, and another at 19000. Been superb last the last 2 years.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
High 20's as an average? Or just real-time reading? I am speaking to the overall average of the vehicle.
@JC-xw7ml
@JC-xw7ml Жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOnWheels average for the whole journey. my wife who’s a smoother driver than me often Uses it to visit her Nan, 100 mile round trip, she’s never below 28mpg, sometimes just over 30mpg. Average speed has to be around 55mph for that (includes a bit of traffic) I use only premium fuel also.
@justSTUMBLEDupon
@justSTUMBLEDupon 3 ай бұрын
Why so long between oil changes? Isn’t it every 6000 miles?
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 3 ай бұрын
Not according to LR owners manual.
@Milly5288
@Milly5288 8 ай бұрын
I have 0 issues with my defender. I’ve been driving in the outback of Australia and it’s been amazing
@mattluszczak8095
@mattluszczak8095 5 ай бұрын
Must of been a 300tdi
@MasteringHow-To
@MasteringHow-To 7 ай бұрын
Get looks all the time. Have the same one. 2023. I got it because I love it. I wanted a defender 90 when I was 16 years old. Now I have a little girl… legally she wouldn’t be able to sit in the back as the sears face each other. 2020 they came out with the defenders again. I just love it. Only 600 miles. I’m nervous because of your videos. Hope it doesn’t have issues.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 7 ай бұрын
Enjoy it regardless. There is a very good chance you will not experience any issues. Congrats they are great!
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 3 ай бұрын
I love the color combination of this Defender. Looks like a Storm Trooper. And at 4:35. Yes, I would be takeing in the Land Rover but I'd be taking you in too! You are both total hotboxes !!! Total studs. 🔥
@Reko_89
@Reko_89 5 ай бұрын
My defender has been great but I did have to replace some speakers. All covered under warranty. No squeaks rattles nothing. I do notice jittering time to time when accelerating but I believe it’s a communication delay between the turbo charger, the super charger and the electric motor.
@ianpaulsmith2455
@ianpaulsmith2455 Жыл бұрын
that’s interesting about the gas mileage! My 2021 Fpace SVR got 25mpg driving mostly in eco from San Diego to Tucson AZ. Of course the tires and extra weight make a difference but the SVR engine has twice the cyclinders!
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
You wrote a bunch of stuff. All I read was Tucson! I love Tucson. Will be buying a home there soon. Higher torque, less weight, better aero... Might all be contributing factors.
@Arid379
@Arid379 8 ай бұрын
It’s looks way better than a Toyota.
@keithfitterer6899
@keithfitterer6899 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 defender that has been in the shop more than on the road!!!! We’re trying to make a deal on trading it back to the dealership!!! A very bad ownership experience! It’s in the shop now with a fuel pump issue! This car only has 6k on it! Beware to all future buyers!!! Car started with stop start issue, transmission problem, back seat problem with folding, steering lock up while driving, stop start button doesn’t always function. Looking at lemon law possibility! Only vehicle in my lifetime that has had this much trouble and Iam 67.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
Definitely sounds like a Lemon law too me
@surfingonmars8979
@surfingonmars8979 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 Land Cruiser with 190,000 miles. In that time I have experienced a host of problems: 1. A flat tire. 2. New windshield wipers. 3. At 90K I changed the timing belt, pumps, fluids, etc. 4. Tires at 65K and 115K. That’s it. Oh, wait, I also had to refill the wiper fluid. I drive this thing in the desert, the shore, the mountains - I haul five surfing guys with boards and bags - I put city and highway and dirt and sand road miles on it. I think I will go 300K with it. Defender? NEVER. Junk
@joo02
@joo02 Жыл бұрын
@@surfingonmars8979 foolish of you comparing them both. Reliability =/= Luxury
@jafarjaafar3151
@jafarjaafar3151 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I completely relate to your experience I did lemon my 2023 Defender 90 after due to the wade system unable to activate since i purchased it at the dealer, I literally drove it for 1500 miles only, was back in the shop within 10 days of purchase, i had transmission issues, passenger seat fold mechanism broke and faulty speakers for the entertainment, and engine fan would go on after i turn off the car for about 1-2 minutes, it was hassle, i put the car in the shop July 7 2022 and never saw it again! Finally was given my money back in mid December 2022, during all that time i was still paying for a car i didnt have!!! It really hurts me bcz the defender was my dream car since i was kid and the old gens defenders i fell in love with! Every time i see one on the road, it bothers me! Bcz I see what I could’ve had if land rover did not screw up their quality control!!!!! I ended up with a mercedes e 450 all-terrain wagoon, amazing car, but not off road worthy like a defender!!!
@CraigK80
@CraigK80 Жыл бұрын
There’s two camps of defender owners, those that have issues and rightly so complain and get refunded etc, then there’s the other camp that have all the issues and say it’s ok? Are they brain washed into accepting that this is ok? Spend circa 80k on a vehicle and accept that’s it’s ok to have an engine failure? Or a water pump fail? Windscreens that crack? Quality issues? Software that simply fails and the continuous engine management light being on? How do JLR get away with it? If they could build a reliable car they’d have one of the best brands on the planet. Genuinely like the defender and want to buy one but all these issues gives me huge concern ! Such a Shame 🇬🇧
@supercrazysane
@supercrazysane Жыл бұрын
Just over one year in with the P400 X 90. Last 80mile trip was 25.5mpg. Still love it, a very special car, which as you say, is unlikely to be around for much longer. I believe a MSRP increase is coming in December. 🙏
@bennytdi
@bennytdi Жыл бұрын
Why are you hoping for an MSRP increase?
@supercrazysane
@supercrazysane Жыл бұрын
@@bennytdi I’m not hoping at all, just stating as that may effect residuals but it’s all relative if inflation pushes up everything. 🤓
@ilikelampshades6
@ilikelampshades6 Жыл бұрын
Strange that they have a reputation for depreciation in USA. They hold their value better than anything other than Toyota in the UK. Can find ones from 30 years old with 300,000+ hard miles on a farm with rust holes in the floor and sellers still want £15,000+
@christophersaul
@christophersaul 8 ай бұрын
Those are the old Defenders…
@ilikelampshades6
@ilikelampshades6 8 ай бұрын
@@christophersaul very true
@LetsBHonest
@LetsBHonest 8 ай бұрын
Land Rover will always have a stigma attached... for multiple decades being super unreliable, worse resale value, or just the term "junk". Just like the Toyota Prius will always have a stigma attached to it, even though they made it better looking recently... people will always believe they are the worse/annoying/etc. drivers.
@fpartidafpartida
@fpartidafpartida Жыл бұрын
Looks like you guys are from MN. Want to do a review on an R1S LE? Let me know, I’d be glad to let you guys do your thing on it. I think it’s funny that you end your video saying if we have to go electric, something like this won’t be around much longer. I believe the R1S is the boxy brick equivalent of the Defender ….let’s call it “120”.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
We would absolutely love too make a video on your R1S. Would you be willing too shoot us an email too communicate further? Thanks! Performanceonwheels111@gmail.com
@dudarenkochannel
@dudarenkochannel Жыл бұрын
so sad
@zachmcclintock2041
@zachmcclintock2041 Жыл бұрын
Subbed hoping you get more Land Rover
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
We will at somepoint!
@jasonmckay4674
@jasonmckay4674 7 ай бұрын
200,000 kms 2 years absolutely no issues for me any ways oh well 2022 Defender P400
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 4 ай бұрын
My Dad had several Land Rovers. They were mechanical disasters. They were always in the repair shops.
@rusadinurima7260
@rusadinurima7260 8 ай бұрын
I still have a 2012 Defender already had 110,000 miles. Why I just saw this after purchasing a P400 Defender :(
@balthezor
@balthezor Жыл бұрын
Did you have the 19" wheels with off-road tires? How were they in a snowy road?
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
They were great in winter. I believe they were 17 or 18s
@clarifaco
@clarifaco Жыл бұрын
Just a small correction, the Defender is not suppose to be a luxury vehicle
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
We own a Bronco now. Just checking it out. I can say with confidence. The Defender is a luxury car. It is just a luxury car in the off-road segment. It does not compare to the Bronco/Wrangler the 4runner.......gx460 is so outdated that it is hard to compare that. You talk about GWagons then that is a different topic as well. The Defender is in a league of its own. I am confident in saying that is closer to being on the luxury side of things.
@pookiemonkey1474
@pookiemonkey1474 Жыл бұрын
No, Clarifaco is correct. It’s not a luxury vehicle. It’s a sports utility vehicle that’s made by a luxury brand. I can list many luxury SUVs, and Defender isn’t one of them
@mattluszczak8095
@mattluszczak8095 5 ай бұрын
...what???? The correction should be is mis named it should be called the pretender
@Bambotb
@Bambotb 8 ай бұрын
So what's the reason? I don't get it lol
@craigmcdonald5620
@craigmcdonald5620 Жыл бұрын
The car companys make car down to a price in the usa , we don't get any of the trouble in Australia that you get in the US with cars
@StephenFogarty2023
@StephenFogarty2023 Жыл бұрын
You guys will miss it, but as u said, another JLR product will grace your driveway in due course. I wonder if u guys would have liked the Defender a lot more if u got it with the P400 engine ? P300 is a good motor, but in a Defender, it struggles with the vehicles weight. P400 is a much better motor. More power, a lot more responsive, and fuel economy is similar, or even better then the P300, because the P400 doesn’t struggle with the vehicles weight. Also, a Defender is not aerodynamic, so any driving above 60 mph, won’t be kind to fuel economy. Any motor will work hard, when it needs to push a brick through the air, at speeds above 60 mph. Austin, Yes, everything is going EV, but Defender will continue with its current body shape. The new Defender 130 can seat 8 people… Whilst the gas engines will get phased out a lot by 2030, and power will become Electric, the different types, and body shapes of vehicles will remain. You can’t carry 8 people ( legally ) or comfortably in a Toyota Corolla… The F150 Lightning looks much the same as other F150…
@tb4326
@tb4326 11 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time you hear, “When it works.” Well if you are going to have delusions, you might as well have satisfying ones!
@ronaldtom7638
@ronaldtom7638 10 ай бұрын
Reliability is my greatest concern for this vehicle! LR’s reputation in this area does not give me any confidence to spend a 100k on this car. To get the amazing ground clearance and approach angles, LR went with air suspension which over time will fail out of warranty. How much will that bill be? Something I am not willing to find out. I’m going with the Lexus GX Overtrail to sleep good at night!
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 10 ай бұрын
Your thinking aligns with many people.
@oni-one574
@oni-one574 9 ай бұрын
I had an LR4 for a bit. Went to the shop 3x in the first year I owned it. It would have gone more, but I gave up trying to get the cameras to work and just never went back to the dealer to have them try and fix it again. It also went in because the air suspension got stuck and wouldn't raise or lower.
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 8 ай бұрын
Maybe but $56K for a base model? That's pathetic. And it's loaded with sooooo much electronic bling. If they deleted it and did it the way they SHOULD, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper. Save all the garbage for the Range Rover. It costs $5K more than a Range Rover did 6-7 years ago! Why get this? Might as well buy a 1 year old RR instead.
@user-ef9qh8dv2d
@user-ef9qh8dv2d 8 ай бұрын
You guys gonna try a grenadier?
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 8 ай бұрын
Would love to. Love the driveline.
@cummins24421
@cummins24421 Жыл бұрын
JLR is taking orders for these no problem. Not sure why anyone would pay over the new price for a used Defender when you could just order a new one and wait a few months....
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
I don't think the few month wait is realistic. Unless you got lucky with allocation and build date. I am hearing 5-18 months. Thank you for checking in and commenting. World-wide the Defender is currently top 10 new vehicles that is holding value.
@mac22011964
@mac22011964 8 ай бұрын
13 month for a 90…..longer if you want the hard top here in the U.K. We have had ours for a year….. love it and get about 34mpg out of our 300. Not a single thing gone wrong….so far so good.
@Jin-Ro
@Jin-Ro Жыл бұрын
Searched for Land Rover Defender, got Land Rover Pretender.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
😲
@technom3598
@technom3598 7 ай бұрын
So stupid
@balthezor
@balthezor Жыл бұрын
Hello sir, what tint percentage did you do for the front windows?
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
30 percent.
@balthezor
@balthezor Жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOnWheels Thank you sir. Is that a match for the rear window's tint from the factory?
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
Yes it is!
@rohitdadwal3399
@rohitdadwal3399 4 күн бұрын
As per ur title saying sold my defender after 1 year use but u gave just positives of it rather what made u eventually sell it. (Negatives)
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 4 күн бұрын
Because there was no negatives! Sold it because we had the opportunity to make some money on it
@rohitdadwal3399
@rohitdadwal3399 4 күн бұрын
@@PerformanceOnWheels oh ok it went that way my bad cheers mate
@mehulmaheshwari650
@mehulmaheshwari650 8 ай бұрын
I sold mine for 15000 dollars more and bought a new one
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 8 ай бұрын
Winning!
@cjdowndemocrats6746
@cjdowndemocrats6746 Жыл бұрын
Trying to find avg cost of ownership
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking multiple videos out! My advice is to go into it with worse case scenario in mind. Be grateful when you don't experience that. Have owned multiple JLR products at this point, some are flawless and some fit the stereotype. There is something special about them, if you do not feel that after driving the brand. I suggest move on. The 2024 GX550 is going to be pretty rad.
@jean-claudemuller4746
@jean-claudemuller4746 7 ай бұрын
The front looks like a small space ship from star wars 😢 Bee a real man, drive a Hilux 😊
@oceanadex
@oceanadex Жыл бұрын
The only one that it worths buying is the diesel!
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
We don't even get that as an option here in the U.S.
@MorningCoffeeDaily
@MorningCoffeeDaily Жыл бұрын
me thinking in how to buy a new car in 5 years...or 10. And this: selling after 1 year a brand new car. Europe is such a lame place to have dreams.
@luism.bogaert3585
@luism.bogaert3585 8 ай бұрын
I had a Range Rover and it was the worst car I’ve had. If you don’t want problems buy a Land Cruiser 300 GR Diesel or VXR.
@gulag88
@gulag88 6 ай бұрын
VXR petrol is better as diesel ones is like a peterbelt truck
@Coordinator61
@Coordinator61 Жыл бұрын
In the UK JLR managed to get 7 models in top 10 very unreliable suv's. They still can do that.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
It is great to know what you are good at, and stick to it! Consistency.
@Coordinator61
@Coordinator61 Жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOnWheels Haha cool remark.
@mattluszczak8095
@mattluszczak8095 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@E.Vancina88
@E.Vancina88 Жыл бұрын
17,000 miles, changed oil once... This is one of the main reasons why these cars are unreliable, the owners don't maintain them.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels Жыл бұрын
According to the owners manual. An annual oil change of 12 months or 16,000 miles.
@bthegawd8113
@bthegawd8113 8 ай бұрын
@@PerformanceOnWheels the fact that you fall for the Manufacture BS shows you know nothing about vehicles.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 8 ай бұрын
Why would you follow something you don’t plan to own out of warranty to just be out more money on?
@gulag88
@gulag88 6 ай бұрын
​​@@PerformanceOnWheelsyou have to change oil in every 6 months or 10k miles. Don't wait for them as they are like iPhones, 1 screen Crack will cost you 400 USD to replace a new ones. For a speaker or battery or charging port they can make 300 USD more from you. Same procedure is mentained for Kawasaki bikes.
@sledheadmcgee
@sledheadmcgee 4 ай бұрын
@@gulag88you must be fun at parties 🤷‍♂️
@rilandkitchendesign7285
@rilandkitchendesign7285 8 ай бұрын
You can never fix a land rover
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 8 ай бұрын
No chips or dings? LMAO. Bring it to northern Texas for a year. When you get it back, it'll look like it was on rocky trails for 6 months! Texas roads are DECREPIT and filthy as hell.
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 8 ай бұрын
Our roads are not filthy in Minnesota. We often send out Amber alerts because children get lost in potholes, however.
@magnusjsvensson
@magnusjsvensson 4 ай бұрын
All brand have lemons L R just more in the basket! 😀
@silverbacknubian6366
@silverbacknubian6366 9 ай бұрын
They look great, but I heard they are a maintenance nightmare
@willisbcteoh9840
@willisbcteoh9840 Жыл бұрын
It's a Pretender
@APE029
@APE029 Жыл бұрын
Range rovers are nice big and feel great, but I always laugh to myself people think they're hot stuff and I've only heard horror stories going as far back as 2012 with the rovers sucks
@sailor0405
@sailor0405 7 ай бұрын
This isn't a Range Rover.
@APE029
@APE029 7 ай бұрын
@@sailor0405 the rover brand in general
@skippercharleston689
@skippercharleston689 4 ай бұрын
Minnesotan?
@PerformanceOnWheels
@PerformanceOnWheels 4 ай бұрын
Yup!
@kathykarns9829
@kathykarns9829 Жыл бұрын
To much chit chat
@Zanzabar5
@Zanzabar5 5 ай бұрын
That will be in a junk yard before half the toyotas built 20 years ago.
@rapalaron6348
@rapalaron6348 8 ай бұрын
Brittish crap loaded with elecronics and tralala. I have my Landcruiser HZJ79 for 23 years now and i won't swap it for a brand new Landrover.
@sledheadmcgee
@sledheadmcgee 4 ай бұрын
But your in a Toyota 😂
@johnpeterson6946
@johnpeterson6946 Жыл бұрын
this suv will drain your wallet....gas, maintenance, and repairs.
@sledheadmcgee
@sledheadmcgee 4 ай бұрын
It’s called a ten year warranty 🤷‍♂️
@erich964
@erich964 Жыл бұрын
It takes big balls if your middle class and money matters to buy this car. If you are wealthy, of course, it matters nothing at all. But think about it it’s 80 grand. For most people this is a bad car to buy as it will bleed them and cannot be counted on. Possibly one of the worst car decisions to buy this in the business.
@sledheadmcgee
@sledheadmcgee 4 ай бұрын
lol what’s a nice Chevy or ford truck cost now a days hero?
@sledheadmcgee
@sledheadmcgee 4 ай бұрын
They have a warranty no bleeding here
@hakeemkareem3211
@hakeemkareem3211 7 ай бұрын
LR Defender is a crap. Nothing beats Toyota Landcruiser or Lexus LX570.
@fredsanke4070
@fredsanke4070 9 ай бұрын
Overhyped SUV...same with the Range Rover line...beautiful but very very ugly
@sledheadmcgee
@sledheadmcgee 4 ай бұрын
I get lots of compliments 🤷‍♂️
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