I need you two to both content farm each other in some weird content-ception until you both get to 100k, thanks.

I love the giant Josh looking at Jesse here: 15:20 Interesting topic btw!

Oh god Effect Veiler's 14 yrs old at this point. I feel like a Grandpa hearing this.

imo 1 card combos are not necessarily bad. Like Normal Aleister gets you 1 fusion monster. The problem is 1 card starters that lead into engines that give more and more resources for resolving a single card

I love several 1 card combo decks that run loads of tech cards. But we’re not talking about Striker or Salad that needs those hand traps to keep them alive because their 1 card combos usually translated to 1-2 interactions. Now SE Ash alone is like… 5+ interactions, produce loads of blockers and they still have that room to have 4 more interactions in hand. What incentive is there to play any 2 card combo deck anymore? The power is so skewed.

IMO. its not one card combos its more small engines. And that the decks simply having too many ways to play around handtraps.

The only realistic in-archetype bans that'll actually affect the deck's gameplan are Ash, Poplar or Original. In an ideal world, we would ban Ash and call it a day since it just reduces it to tier 2 or rogue (which keeps the people who bought the deck happy since it means they can still play with the deck even though it cant extend anywhere near as much as it used to). Problem is that Ash just got a UTR print in the next OTS pack. It probably wont get banned. So Poplar is the only card they can realistically hit, which I just hate from a lore-based perspective. Banning Original is basically the same issue since it means that Diabellstar can't ever search her little buddy. Granted, there is an argument to be made that banning Poplar is important because it keeps it from being a splashable free body in any deck using Bonfire.

That is why people love the Branded deck. Pretty much every search is dependant on the board state

Hhhhh I am glad that giga chads getting these kind of results in finals just be boring as any average normal Snake-Eyes player! When u have 15 cards that are actually playable and 25 hand traps this is what happens

One Card Combos allows you to also have multiple engines or have a bunch of hand traps in your deck.

Jesse and Josh reacting to each others content back and forth is good for everyone as it teaches the audience. Super informative!

I really love the rivalry they have it’s like Messi Ronaldo but Yugioh

Love the discussion, BUT we have to first look at "Why" from Konami perspective!! We have plenty of FAIR non-1CardCombo archetypes but nobody cares because to our surprise...... it's WEAK and we dont appreciate fair card design, we cant lower Power Level anyway. If we want non-negation board and still being "Meta" we have to deal with +8 cards resource. The latest card design aims at shifting a bit away from Ash, Imperm perspective is our latest Tenpai with unaffected field => so as we play more Ghost Ogre (And we still hate it because of its non-interaction...) . There's no actual perfect solution right now 😅 I hate how i turns out, but just enjoy what we have for now I guess P.S: I think Generic Staples are also Konami's solution to archetypes' diversity in tournaments, so decks can have equal end board. But I guess then all decks feel to much the same 😂

I think if snake-eye fire king becomes the best deck over pure because of a banlist or something, this issue will be fixed, because that deck is waaaay more interactive and grindy because the fire kings add a different level of complexity.

Itd be sweet if you and josh did some sort of pod cast thingy getting other big name Players on to talk about yugioh. That shit would go hard

I think handtraps are in a similar situation as maxx c is, they were made when they were just okay but as the game got faster they became broken.

Do you agree with Josh's last comment on less severe hits than bans? He bases this on his experience in the Limit 1 festival but to me Snake-Eyes in that event felt noticably weaker than in Ranked because they didn't have their in-archetype follow-up that is all but free and they were weaker to handtraps (especially Nibiru). People are quick to write off semi-limits and limits as mere consistency hits but not only does a lowered consistency have a tangible impact over the course of multiple games (notwithstanding outlier duels where these hits may not _seem_ to matter), these hits also reduce the resilience of the combo (since it's less likely to draw the necessary extenders) as well as the endboard (since it's less likely, or actually impossible, to rebuild it once it's broken). So it seems that there's a world where hitting Snake-Eyes without bans is enough. Thoughts?

Snake eye illusion is fun

brother get new headphones 😭

This is why i run dinomorphia with a bunch of counter traps and debunk with a side engine of z-arc and extra that can be summoned if they dare to play a spell card. Never have to worry about snake eyes, it dies off against most dinomorphia traps, kash can defens itself but it also falls short to it. Only heavy burn decks worry me, anything else is not a factor.

7:49 As if he's not the one that defeated Anthony in Bologna finals with his Bystial Runick.

i would say the real problem of all, is the ultra generic extra deck that has Snake Eyes. I know that to many other decks has generics extra deck, but snake eyes has all of the extra cards that works on any other archetypes, they stick them with glue and play... maybe in the future and for the healty of the game, konami need to build archetypes with several restrictions that allows to play only in his original deck.

Such a freaking boring deck

Love the headphones Jesse

Honestly I feel like Yogioh has it backwards from how it should be where like the generic stuff is at the top like for an example dragon link has like 30 some specific cards in the deck in most playable builds and it's dragon link right but you would end up with like borrel sword or a baron you could get an access code you might be able to tech into like galaxy eyes cypher stuff I feel like it should almost be reversed to where you have all this generic stuff at the bottom that does like simple tasks like search or special summon ect and then as you combo up into your boss monsters it starts locking you in more so like maybe something like a halq or isolde or so my lock you to a specific type or to like only links from your extra and then like you have all your archetypal stuff be specific to your boss monsters so like say your link locked and warrior locked but your 3rd boss on the finishing board is a dragon XYZ or something weird it doesn't work but because your playing this deck it specifically has spells that get around your lock to sumon specifically that dragon xyz or its like part of its effect if this and this are already on the feild ignore locks while sumoning this card or whatever

Damn, that no one ever saw this coming. Damn, the skill issues.

Yeah decks are either automated. Or with decks like say braindead, you have access to so many other archetypes and their cards like what tribrigade, springan, bystial, etc.....that the deck is too broad and technically has some kind of searchable access to any effect they could possibly want.

One card combos are fine, there are so many decks that don't do shit even with a one card combo. The problem is clearly handtraps, the game is being designed to play around them to some level but not entirely, so you end up with ultra boring games like the one in the video. Joshua doesn't comprehend this because he likes handtraps and cards akin to them (Runick).

I high doubt S.A Poplar would be Banned, it's still new from early this year, most likely limiting Ash, Flameburge, and Diabellstar to 1, it's not like Ruler or Pepe in the since that every deck in top cut is the same, at this point other deck(s) are topping and not just S.A, unlike the previous meta(s) where only those decks had to be played in order to do well. Just my opinion 😅

content of content about other peoples content about content

Please do a salamangreat deck profile

Konami is so stupid to maintain the differences between tcg ocg and master duel. They need to merge them. It really can’t be that difficult. Right?

When I started Aleister, shaddoll fusion, fusion destiny were considered one card starters/combos 2 years later they are nothing just a one for one not a combo not a starter like tf😭

You guys think 1 card combos are bad. Just wait till konami makes 0 card combos. I joke but I could definitely see them making some link 0 cards or something ridiculous that you have to take a loan out on your house to afford.

the limit 1 festival was fun as hell, I did a snake eyes magician girls deck with the idea I would turbo out quintet and blow up people, but snake eyes was doing everything fine, and the DM cards just made dealing with snake eyes frustrating as hell for people that didn't run hand traps or have the cards they needed to stop me. That festival made me want a format where we can only bring one card. It made me think of new routes and change up how I approach deck building when I only have one card to do one thing.

Lmao 3 react videos in a row 😭💀💀💀

The counter is maxx c, which's banned in the TCG. You punish these decks by resolving maxx c.

Of course he's right about one card combos because I've been saying the same thing for years and I'm usually right.

I still think ash needs to go or be limited it stops too many decks

Lol ppl mad in thses comments i can tell who gets beat by snake eyes all the time

How are 1 card combos not just the natural progression of the game?

Forget that noise we need to change Yu-Gi-Oh entirely and go back to the ways and the days of the only way to add cards to your hand was by drawing them and hard of the cards erase all the meta cards erase all the cards that add cards to your hand let's just get back to the days if you have to draw the out and that's the only way to win