Who thought this was high VS low season 2

I have installed a pair of the Elite 29er Pro36 on a Scott Spark RC and really like them. Having front/rear suspension any perceived uncomfortable stiffness is not an issue. In full lock out it becomes a little more apparent but not uncomfortable and the tradeoff with better control and directionality is definitely worth it. Doing a non-stop 60 mile ride yesterday just confirms my views. The Pro hubs are very good and I have just had a close look at the build quality and regreased the rear with no issues. I would certainly buy them again.

Been watching your content for over a year now, love the new stuff, I always look forward to your next post. Best mtb channel on KZfaq hands down.

I have the Elitewheels Pro36 29ers and I love my wheels. I have been running them for over a year and have had no issues. I have had some rim strikes and even had a pinch flat with no issues on these wheels. Just like Evan I have had rocks come and smack these wheels all the time with no issues. These wheels are stiff but I prefer that. It gives more feed back of the terrain and has helped me better understand when my tires are slipping out. Before I got these wheels I was running an aluminum set and my tires would just slip out from underneath me because i was getting grip and grip for days then none what so ever. It was like a light switch grip then,no grip. Like he was saying you can feel the slipping of the tires before you lose all grip and slide off the trail. There may be something to that extra feedback and feel because, he was able to get that KOM back with little time on the wheelset.

Production value has gotten a lot better over time. Thank you for your hard work!

Sick edit! Great review! My wife and I hollered over to you while you were getting those "stare at it shots" sorry if we interrupted your flow. It was cool to see you getting those money shots. We were waiting for this edit to drop. Nice job as always!

I shattered a carbon “XC”rim from BTLOS. They replaced it with a more “trail friendly” rim, I’m using it as a gravel wheelset. I replaced it with a rim from Light Bicycle, another Chinese brand. Very pleased with the quality and durability.

I've been very happy with their Edge Carbon Ultralight 50mm deep wheels on my road bike. Very light for the price and seem pretty compliant for road wheels at least. No problems with around 3000 miles so far. Strong crosswinds can push them around a bit, but nothing unusual for deep section wheels. I got them from Amazon, so shipping was fast.

I have a set of Elite wheels on my shorter travel trail bike. It is so lively and fast. I recommend adding a Vittoria airliner lite in the rear. It will soften the sound of the wheel a bit and also add a little insurance for the rim. Elite is awesome when it comes to their warranty. I had a wheel delaminate along where the tire seats. Elite sent me a full placement wheel with hub and spokes. Talk about awesome.

gotta try Hunts. I have a set of aluminum trail wide v2, almost as light as carbon and built great, I got them on sale last year but they look like they are on sale again. $400 for 1830g aluminum wheels with a warranty.

I suspect the Elite logo's on the rims are looking worried, they know whats coming! :) Nice review video.

Those wheels do look very nice!

I have these wheels on my bike. Definitely great for how much they cost. Hubs sounds great and run smooth. Definitely a decent wheel set and I would buy them again

I've been very happy with the 30mm ID SLR Elitewheels from Aliexpress on an XC bike for outright speed, but I did also notice they are a touch harsher than aluminum wheels. Very good wheels for the money though.

I ordered a gravel wheelset from the factory that makes wheels for elite wheels. Can't wait to see how they ride. I never had carbon rims before.

I don’t think a carbon wheel will ever feel as soft as a good aluminum rim wheel and steel spokes will never feel as soft as Berd spokes. With that said, I have a set of custom Berd Spoke wheels with wide RFace alloy rims and I’m going to buy another set with the DT Swiss alloy rims. I’m not opposed to carbon rims and some branded Zipp and Stan carbon rims. They’re nice but let’s talk reality. Aluminum has flex that carbon rims can’t replicate.

Hope you have better luck with your Fantik that I have. I have a different model, but the battery life the junk. They even sent me a second unit and it has the same issue. It's great when it works (and using a press-on Presta valve adapter), but not great QC.

Those skinny steel tubes of the bird frame look so good. I need a steel frame for my next bike. The tubing reminds me of my handmedown 90s bikes I would restore

I think it is more on xc side than trail/enduro.

Your video shows that different brands, layup and design of carbon wheels offer different properties. For off road I prefer the feel of aluminium rims for my current set up but it's good to know how different carbon wheels ride. I have a set of road wheels from EliteWheels and whilst they are not the most top spec wheels available to buy, they are great for my needs.

I got a set of their even cheaper ENT-MTB carbon wheels for a whopping $307 shipped during their 11-11 sale...and they're incredible.

How much of the difference is the change in spokes and not the change in rims? I would check the spoke tension and consider lowering it.

Elite wheels has been reviewed by Hambini and luke trace velo. they're good. I don't even need to order from aliexpress to get them in my country as it is available in select bike shops. I also have taken a look at that wheel but i was thinking of putting it in my gravel bike but i decided to not replace the stock wheel at the moment. still deciding if an rb/gravel elite wheel or mtb elite wheel is the one im gonna purchase

I've bought 2 sets of elitewheels and ride them on very rough Colorado front range difficult and extreme trails with drops and rock gardens much gnarlier than that on my Stumpjumper Evo and Trek Fuel Ex-e. So far so good. I would recommend them over Ryett, which I have on my nothing-stock Siskui D7 (also cheap Chinese wheels).

My current hardtail build started from an ali express carbon frame. Its still running strong after three seasons of trails it is probabaly not meant for

You may be able to dial out some of that stiffness feel with your fork setting. Wheels are just an extension of the suspension together with tires.

ELITEWHEELS is probably the best Chinese brand for carbon wheels. I have EDGE 45 mm road wheel and I can say that they are amazing. The feel so fast and good. The stiffness is amazing. This year I am planning to buy carbon wheels for my trail bike 150/150mm and I am wondering if Pro36 wheels are fine for jumps as well?

Unfortunately, even at that price, those wheels are waaay too expensive for me! They look nice though! Greetings from Croatia 😎

Ive had a set of the Elite Pro33's for about a year now with about 800mi on them. With these being my first set of carbon MTB wheels i dont have anything to comapre them to, but they are much better than stock alloy wheels. I feel that EliteWheels would be a good upgrade for anyone looking to upgrade their stock wheels for a set of quality carbon wheels without spending over $1000.

I have a pair of 29" carbon rims from EIE Carbon at $900. They are a Chinese brand. 1250 gr made out of T800 carbon and they ride incredible. They have exactly one year of nonstop XC racing and had no issues. So yes, there can be very good Chinese bike parts.

at the expense of the electric pump, if he planted a tire on the rim of a tubeless one, this very rarely happens, the airflow is small there

Love the this cant wait for High low season two

I make sure to hit like on the start of the video so i don't forget after Also: i just discovered how a compliant wheel can feel..its magic. Just a few loose spokes and a cheap ht feels so much better. Almost wanna experiment with this but im not sure if i wanna go through the hassle of doing up spokes daily without proper tools, budget and time

Taiwanese vs Chinese are distinctly different in regard to quality. And in the grand scheme - $750 vs $1k - 250 bucks is a lot of money, but wouldn't cover 10 co-pays when you break your body...

I tried Chinese Light Bicycle carbon wheelset, and even got the extra strong version for the rear. Rear wheel did not even last one year, cracked while playing on rocks.

Interesting rim tape, looks like the thick rubbery stuff my Giant wheels have.

what type of brakes did u use for the hard tail as i'm looking for brakes to switch with the DB8's

Cool video. Great idea on the portable air pump, but your promotion code doesn't work

My wife just got an Ibis Ripley (120mm travel). She's about 135 pounds. Do you think she should get the narrow or the wide version of this wheel for her new bike?

I've had my Elite wheels for going on 2 years now and they've been great. I would recommend them to anyone.

Hi Evan. How do you or do you even torque your centerlock brakes?

I still can't get over the stigma of Chinese "no name" or small name carbon.. A few years ago, a competitor with the Police and Fire games had a "blowout" on a 50mph downhill due to a wheel failure, and died. Of course, the company he purchased the carbon wheels from was long gone, and the family had no way to pursue litigation. Combine that with the "Aliexpress" effect of subpar carbon bars, posts, etc., and I'm still not ready to save a few bucks...

I worked in composites for a few years and I can tell you that even with the same quality control, if you use sub optimal components the end product suffers. Some materials may not absorb the resins properly and even basic materials used to stage and create the product can affect it.

going from those string spokes to the metal spokes I would expect it to feel stiffer. Regarding the washing out I don't think that has anything to do with the rims it's sounds like it's an issue with your tires.

Bike looks sick with that frame color

I also have the Elite Pro36 wheels on my YT Izzo Core 3 and they are fantastic. They brought the bike down to 27.5 lbs (no pedals) and they have been flawless. Regarding stiffness, I did not find a huge difference between the stock DT Swiss M1900 and the Elite wheels. Besides, coming from hardtails and rigid single speed race bikes, the full suspension Izzo feels far too smooth to worry about wheels stiffness. I ride at 19/20 PSI.

Evan, just go with Mavic's and their Mextal alloy🤘🤘 "YEAH❗️"

My wheels are made in Canada . Some China stuff ok some not so much . Bladed spokes are not for aero there for strength . What is your thoughts on inserts .

W vid! Good luck racing tomorrow!

I'd love to try carbon parts one day but the trails i ride are like 90% loose rocks the size of a fist that are being thrown everywhere when you ride over them. Few rides on carbon parts there and you're definitely gonna break something. My aluminum frame and rims have so many scratches and dents on them but they're still holding strong because... aluminum.

When I build my own mountain bike that's what I'm doing. I don't do jumping. I bought a no name bike and was extremely impressed! I own many bikes that cost about 1/2 the money for being maybe 1/2 lb more.

It's the spokes. Those bladed spokes are very stiff, I'd never run them on anything MTB. And coming off Berd, everything will feel stiff. I'm on my 3rd set of generic home built rims, which cost even less than these retail sets. The new hotness is the 'no spoke access holes' which don't require rim tape, as there are no holes in the tire side of the rim except the valve hole. Also have three open mold frames that are working out super well.

Try to get rid of the bladed spokes that should help with the stiffness a tube has way different flex than a blade in all directions...

I think that high low season 2 will be very interesting.

Wheels are so expensive, but such a huge upgrade. I want to get a set of carbon wheels for my T9, but man it’s expensive 😬

Hey I heard that you talked to my friend azeem and you asked about me! Thanks man I’m in Africa rn. I registered but my family is adopting twins so that came first. I’ll see you at RO3, Gravelicious or unbound, whatever you’re doing next!

I got the Gnar Trail 29 wheels from Elitewheels, 2 rides in they feel great compared to the standard aluminum syncros wheels that came on my bike. No reason to doubt the quality of Elitewheels since they make so many wheels for other big brands

Yo I love the new high vs low serio- wait

I own 2 elite wheelset. One is 7 years old and the other 4 and they are still holding. The 7 year old one is no longer on the original hubs.

my chinese road carbon wheels are great and sometimes hit alot of deep potholes without problem, maybe next year get some carbon wheels for my xc bike

Evan, what's your thoughts about using stiff wheels like these on a xc full suspension? With the suspension makeup for the stiffness? Would it be a perfect combo?

240lb rider here. Have at least 10k on Light Bicycle rims.

Hey Evan, i would love to see you get a e bike by polygon and to try some more e bike thinks in your channel, for videos like this you could use the e bike because of the weight to test to distruction, just thinks like this would be amazing for a ebike and not even touching the speed and easyness uphill.

"Fishtank pump" seating a bead? Wow!

Almost ALL bike parts are made in China. My son and I use Chinese "foreign" made carbon forks, hoops, and handlebars on our BMX and MTB. We've never had a problem and we get a 1 year warranty.

Probably depends on which brands 🤔

Just got a new bike the Giant Trance Advanced Pro 29 2 and its the first time ive had carbon wheels on a bike. Only one ride in because the weather but so far all I know is that they look nice.

Outside of American Aerospace the best carbon layup folks are in China. I will not ride carbon rims anymore after cracking a rim on a sharp rock, that made a stress riser. Just easier to use aluminum that you can still ride out on.

What Valve core tool do you use?

Tbh, I’ve got my self a Chineese XC full sus frame from the company ICAN cycling. Rides like a charm, and their customer service was on point. I throw it around, drops, rock and it doesn’t seem to care. So be scared of Chinese carbon.

why are u not combining them like aluminum in the rear and carbon in the front tecnically shouldnt it give u the advantage of more smallbump sensetivety in the front because of the love weight of the wheel meaning less mass that needs to get moved and a stronger more forgiving aluminum wheel in the back because most of the time at least form my experience the rear rim gets alot more abused and dinged on obstacles only downside would probably be that the bike would maybe be a lil bit more rear heavy but especially in a HT i think this would be beneficial

Promotional code for the Fanttik X9 Ace Bicycle Tire Inflator did not work.

You got the real Chinese and the fake Chinese lol

Nowadays when buying bike parts 90% of the time I buy Chinese brand stuff and only touch the mainstream brands when I find them for at least 40% off. Screw the (formerly) inflated price of name brand bike parts, screw the show-off fashion show aspect of the sport. I'm not a top end rider so most of the marginal drawbacks of Chinese brands are lost on me, I just want to get on the trail for a reasonable price.

How did you like the hubs? I haven't heard anything about the hubs on the Elite wheels. I know Spindatt runs them and they are plenty strong. But again he doesn't say anything about the hubs. Engagement is important to a lot of people, I'm curious what hubs it could be compared to.

28h for xc? How much do you weigh?

I didn't feel any difference between carbon and alloy wheels. If you are a bike nerd, you can buy them. I only bought them for experinting. The wheelset was 180+160=340€. You can barely buy a decent alloy wheelset for that price. After the industry ditched 27,5", parts are crazy cheap.

Not all premium wheels are compliant. I've ridden a pair of Giant carbon wheels and they were stiff as hell. Horrible feeling to ride. I think some wheels are just stiffer than others and vice versa

Ok so in your opinion, would these elite wheels be good for riding on the road with the giant xtc advanced?

I've been using Chinese carbon products since 2018. Huge change from then to now. But even then you could find great quality products for a decent price. Recently ive built up some wheels on my own using all Chinese stuff. Total weight eas 1450g for $400 and the wheels have been bomb proof.

Strava doesn’t lie. May be your subjective impression was impacted by the fact you were going faster?

Yes

1st comment love your vidios I would like to ask a question are specialized Stumpjumper alloys good

got farsports, elite, avian, and yoleo. the best build quality is the farsports.

Speedsafe wheels 1242 grams 4 years on them

I own as set of these wheels as well and absolutely love them. One thing that's hard to communicate is just how good these wheels look, the marbled finish absolutely gives the wheels a stunning look. I put them on my long-travel XC bike, and they are perfect for that application. They replaced a set of LG1 Carbon Enduro wheels from EThirteen. I completely agree with the sentiment that these wheels are stiff (those Sapim CXRays are some of the stiffest alloy spokes afterall).

Im more excited about the upcoming unbound

The mini air pump is a scam for seating a tubeless tire. It’s just the rim tire and rim tape combination

You shouldn't have reached out, they often have higher quality versions to send to KZfaqrs. I remember a video about a chinese carbon frame where the viewers complained especifically about this and the frame he bought "privately" wasn't as safe as the one they had sent him

it say's 1499 when I checked? did the sale end that quick?

Bring manufacturing back to America, I'll happily pay more so that my neighbors can make a livable wage.

Never tried Chinese carbon wheels. Have friend broke Reserve wheels and We Are One wheels, so I been on alloy wheels since

stiff compared to berd spokes or normal carbon wheels?

Why don't you try and put berd spokes on those and see if that helps them.

Worse than trash. Trash doesn’t harm people normally.

love the channel but thumbnail is click-baity

Im jealous that your doing unbound, check out Dylan Johnson for some gravel racing content

As an avid buyer of cheap cino carbon ELITE wheels are not the best value you can find cheaper or better built. Note that I didn't say cheaper AND better... Gotta be realistic 😂 I love my 9velo wheels but they ain't that cheap

this is out of topic but you sound like Evan Peters

my carbon frame from alixpress is still ridden today