I Used Off The Record To Fight My Ticket ... And Lost

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Жыл бұрын

I decided to fight my speeding ticket using the Off The Record app. Off the Record claims a 97% success rate and offers a money-back guarantee if you use them to fight your traffic ticket and lose. Seems like a no-brainer right? Well, it turns out that their definition of "success" might not match up with what you or I might call a win. They'll consider my case a success, even though I feel like I lost. Did I get scammed?
In case it's not clear, I am not sponsored by Off The Record or any other company or law firm that fights traffic or speeding tickets. This is an independent review and I am paying for services out of my own pocket.
For the background about my ticket, see my earlier video: • I'm fighting my speedi...
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@DJ_BFG 5 ай бұрын

This is 100% a win. There isnt any points on your license. Your insurance rates didnt raise. Yes you had to pay the fine but you dont have anything on your record...

@FUYouTubeCensors Жыл бұрын

Dude, you are hilarious. I was cracking up throughout the entire video.

@eloneatmyshorts 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing the experience. So did the point reduction from traffic school get that ticket off your record or does it stay on because you pleaded guilty?

@86drive86 7 ай бұрын

Here in California, drivers who have received one point on their driver's license due to pleading guilty to a ticket can have the charges of the ticket masked and the point kept off their record by doing traffic school. You are only eligible for traffic school once every 18 months.

@pmally2006 Жыл бұрын

That’s some bullshit. Anyone who’s been to court a few times knows they give traffic school and fee reduction by default. I mean if it sounds too good to be true, that’s because it is. But hey, you didn’t have to show up in court, so that’s a plus.

@86drive86 Жыл бұрын

yeah, that's a good point. But that's why I am not that angry about paying OTR and the attorney -- they did the work, they went to court and I didn't have to. I went myself years ago and got the same result on my own, but nowadays I have less free time and would rather not have to take a day off from work just to appear in court for something like this.

@pmally2006 Жыл бұрын

@@86drive86 yeah exactly, time is money

@MichaelMantion 8 ай бұрын

IT was a success. They are absolutely correct. Not shady.

@DiscussionsWithEkmel Жыл бұрын

Less money going to the government is a win in my book 😂

@250motocross 2 ай бұрын

It's not government tho it's state

@DiscussionsWithEkmel 2 ай бұрын

@@250motocross think about what you just said. Ex. It's not a fruit tho it's an apple.

@colemcdaniel8214 Ай бұрын

It's more money out of your pocket. You're taking the anti government thing too far when you're happy to pay more to corporate overlords as long less goes to the government.

@4570duplex 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad I watched your video. I just got a ticket and a buddy referred me to this app. In the past, I have always used a local traffic attorney who enjoys a very good reputation for success. She charges a $350 flat fee (offtherecord charges $110 in my area). Very tempting to go with offtherecord... However, after watching this (and conducting other research) it appears their only "strategy" is as you describe - hope the officer doesn't show. Hell, I can do that myself. I went with my usual attorney. She is very adept at reviewing the specific case for any "gotchas" that will require dismissal before even going to court. Failing that, she actually works with the prosecutor and/or the court to plead to some monetarily equivalent non-moving violation, which serves to both keep it off your record and to avoid traffic school. This is what I am looking for in a traffic attorney. Not some hope and a prayer that the officer won't show.

@86drive86 10 ай бұрын

If you have a good attorney already lined up, definitely go with her! She sounds like she knows what she's doing and will get you a better result.

@filterdecay 6 ай бұрын

I hired off the record to take care of a ticket in may of 2023. The lawyer assigned to my case ignored the ticket and court dates. I ended up getting a point and that point is now going to cost me $800 a year from my insurance.

@86drive86 6 ай бұрын

oh wow that sucks! that sounds like outright malpractice on the lawyer's part. you might be able to go after them for dropping the ball on that.

@morri5rich515 4 ай бұрын

Did you dl app? There is a message center. Also if he ignored you then you call off the record...did you do that? Sounds like to me you just started it and didn't follow up. No way otr and the lawyer are going to both ignore you. if you called them and explained the lawyer was ignoring you.

@filterdecay 4 ай бұрын

@@morri5rich515 of course I called. They have blocked me at this point. They just refunded my money when I told them, they should of offered a new lawyer but they didnt. Customer service was pathetic. Anyways my claim is with the state bar for lawyer abandonment. Once that is finished I will hire another lawyer and sue both otr and the lawyer.

@ryshask Жыл бұрын

same here... speed trap... failed to fight it and win... had to drive back to bay area from vegas and pay in person. No way to pay online :/

@86drive86 Жыл бұрын

oh that sucks... what county was it? Mine was Alameda County and I was able to pay it online. I would think they would make it as easy as possible to pay it, that's the one thing that they'd want you to do.

@ryshask Жыл бұрын

@@86drive86 probably... it was 280 around san mateo, looked up the case but lost interest because I moved out of the north bay... it's miserable there... I have a v6 in my mr2 now and it's legal...

@gaming_hippie4806 8 ай бұрын

Im waiting on another service to contact me before going with otr. I read the fine print and if my outcome is what yours is id be happy as it would be worth it in the end without getting dinged on my driving record and not having my insurance raised

@BAstudios5 3 ай бұрын

I'm planning on fighting my ticket in Logan County, OH. The problem is no attorney will touch it, there are no pre-trial negotiations. This means any of those apps will not work for this court and only one attorney said he would even represent, but he was booked up. I made several phone calls to see if anyone would represent me. One attorney told me most attorneys will not touch cases with this county because they would make a deal with the prosecutor only to have the judge just disregard the deal completely. I think I have a descent case but I don't think I will be represented by the time I get to trial. I will be making a video about this here soon at the end regardless of outcome.

@86drive86 3 ай бұрын

best of luck, hope you can beat it!

@DiamondLifer 11 ай бұрын

They are full of shit. Literally same exact ticket for the same exact thing. Not only did I lose but the lawyer didn’t tell me the case was concluded, thus my ticket went into collections and I forfeited being able to do traffic school. Ticket was issued late May, 2022. I hired them in April. He pushed trial back to December. He got the judgment but never told me, never answered my update requests. Not until I got a collection letter in April of 2023. He claimed he’d take care of it and get it out of collections. He lied. Refunded my money for the inconvenience and said he’d still take care of getting it out of collections and not to pay anything. I racked up maximum penalties. Finally today Of The Record contacted and said I could go to the court and pay the ticket of $556 and then be granted traffic school. They lied. Court said I forfeited traffic school as soon as the ticket went to collections. Now my insurance that renews next month has the ticket and has gone up $110 dollars a month. Off The Record is not taking responsibility for the lack of communication and shitty representative they employed. They blocked my number after asking me to supply proof of the insurance rate going up. Lawyer closed the case and now I’m left in so much worse shape than before this crap company and shit lawyer. Never hire them. Mark my words. You can go into court and speak to the judge yourself and get the same thing they do done for free and know exactly where you stand.

@Shellshock361 6 ай бұрын

This is my first ticket, and first traffic violation. This really sucks. I was claimed to be going about 20 mph over the limit, but I was probably going about 10 mph over. My court date is very far in the future, and Off the Record is actually pretty expensive in my case ($360 was quoted). I don't want my insurance premiums to increase. Either way sounds like I will have to pay at the minimum $400 or more.. I likely won't go with an attorney, I don't have the money

@86drive86 6 ай бұрын

if you have the spare time to go to court yourself, then try that... ask for an extension and push the date out. Then hope the cop doesn't show up and get an automatic win. If the cop does show, then ask for a fine reduction and traffic school from the judge. That is basically the strategy that my attorney used for me.

@myemimiese 10 ай бұрын

Got my first speeding ticket ever in my stock 86 today haha... after 8 years of driving. I am thinking that I will show up in court missing a day of work, unpaid time off. I've been doing research and remembered seeing this vid. I suppose I will try to go for a fine reduction and traffic school.

@86drive86 10 ай бұрын

Yep, if you have the time to go yourself, I think your chances are good, especially if you have never received a speeding ticket before, you will be eligible for traffic school.

@randomlamb6626 11 ай бұрын

Unless it’s your first ticket or eligible for traffic before OTR isn’t that a win because you were able to do traffic school without it going on your record and the price of insurance going u?

@86drive86 11 ай бұрын

I think I explained my feelings in the video already... yeah it's a "win", but it's hard to feel great about it when you pay $600+ in fees and costs.

@Yruh4688 11 ай бұрын

@@86drive86u would have paid more in insurance over time

@bluedoggum8373 6 ай бұрын

Bro everyone who goes into court gets their fine reduced… like if you just show up. Idk maybe I’m wrong but that’s what’s always happend with me. The fee on the ticket that people mail Is the maximum you can possibly pay… the “suckers” fee. Idk maybe I am wrong that’s what I thought as I’ve done this a number of times.

@86drive86 5 ай бұрын

yeah I've said that if you have the time to go into court yourself, you should... using OTR or hiring an atty is the next best option, they'll go in for you. You'll definitely save some money if you go in yourself.

@eddiebelzebuth 2 ай бұрын

Great video, but I would say you had somewhat unrealistic expectations from the beginning. Having a clean record at the end of all this is worth the $600+ in my book.

@user-fy5by5xp7n Ай бұрын

My quote from them is 1508 for 70 in a 55

@joelewis1558 10 ай бұрын

He’s funny asf I’m crying lol

@oboyz3848 10 ай бұрын

Just got my first ticket I hydroplaned into grass and I got a failure to reduce speed to avoid accident, this is my very first ticket after 3 years of driving I’m only 22 my insurance is already crazy high and my car is kinda totaled, it was raining and I hit a patch of water but It was a singular car accident (just me ) , what are the chances this ticket gets expunged from my record for this being a first time offense?

@86drive86 10 ай бұрын

Wow that sucks to hear, can't believe they gave you a ticket for that when the damage was bad enough. I would definitely consult with a traffic attorney about it, since it's your first time offense hopefully you could get it dismissed or reduced to a lesser charge. Best of luck to you.

@oboyz3848 10 ай бұрын

@@86drive86 yea and to make it worse , the officer wasn’t even present when it happened . He came 20 months after

@preciousbey 2 ай бұрын

@@oboyz3848 I had a simpler experience kinda sorta. I ran a stop sign it wasn't intentional but I was basically a van hit me like just by the skin of my bumper, he didn't try to avoid me in anyway if anything it almost seemed like he speed up. Like he didn't have to do a major move either, he could have moved an inch over he would have missed me. Any how's he street was a 25 mine didn't have a speed but it was residential which is anywhere from 25-35mph. So I stoped got out ran over the guy he had the small think on his front bumper and did a number on the side back of my bumper it was just a tiny piece he hit that just kinda messed up a sensor. So he called his company they called the police No one was hurt or injured, the cop got there I felt so guilty that I said I ran the sign and it was my fault and the cop gave me a ticket for running a stop sign even though she wasn't there just going off of what I said, that particular intersection has issues, idk I've never ran a sign before I've never done anything bad been driving since I was 16 with a license I'm 21 got my CDL a couple of months ago. I had so much on my mind discrimination at work I quit and was coming back from a job interview. So I didn't realize that the officer was going to give me a ticket or that u could get one for they weren't there. So that's what's upsetting me, insurance is so much already, my car i know the price is going to be steep. so I paid the fee for off the road but I'm scared it won't work how was ur case did u win or?

@oboyz3848 2 ай бұрын

@@preciousbey bro I didn’t even submit/ pay the ticket , I let it be, called cook county 30 days later and they said they didn’t even know i got a ticket , so I guess they just threw the ticket out without me knowing . So I didn’t need this or anything else

@cradilyz Жыл бұрын

not surprised when it comes to legal matters and 'technicality' always nice to share expectations vs reality

@fhickson 10 ай бұрын

Excellent points

@Mandy-cd4xs 2 ай бұрын

Did you do written declaration?

@86drive86 2 ай бұрын

I didn't but I've heard that is an effective way to beat a ticket. I haven't tried it before but maybe I would in the future if I'm fighting another ticket.

@DeeTofa 3 ай бұрын

When I was 18, I was caught speeding 70 in a 45 mph zone. I went to court by myself, plead guilty and asked the judge for a reduced fine, no points, and 5 hour traffic school. The judge respected my request and brought my fine down from $550 to $120 plus some court fees. I had to do an easy driving education class and got no points. Seems like Off the Record does the same thing I did as an 18 year old, lmao.

@86drive86 3 ай бұрын

It's no secret, you can definitely do these things yourself. Off the Record, or really any attorney you hire, provides a service -- they represent you and appear in court so you don't have to. If you have the free time to go in yourself and do what you did, by all means do it. I did that also back when I was a student with more time than money -- I showed up in court and the cop didn't show up, and I got my case dismissed with no fines paid. Nowadays I don't have as much free time, so I (and others who use the service) hired someone else to do it for me.

@derpnerpwerp 4 ай бұрын

I am watching this in a nearly identical parking garage after getting a ticket in my 86.. I did not google anything about my car.. I just googled this company

@86drive86 4 ай бұрын

Garage life my friend. Good luck fighting the ticket!

@SycaShow 6 ай бұрын

Ima a class A driver I need this OFF MY RECORD lol

@joe1421ify Жыл бұрын

He got your speed on a speedometer. Not only because the officer showed up.

@86drive86 Жыл бұрын

I think you mean he read my speed on a radar gun. Regardless, as I mentioned in the video the " legal strategy" seemed to be primarily to appear at trial and hope that the officer doesn't show up. If he doesn't, then it's an easy automatic win. When he does show up, as he did in my case, that's when the attorney representing me had to do some negotiating to get my fine reduced, and request traffic school.

@johnangeloalmonicar1987 2 ай бұрын

I think we have same violation 91 on 65 i just got it today in bay area

@TrypleD 10 ай бұрын

You still have to pay for traffic school, so don't forget to add that expense.

@86drive86 10 ай бұрын

yes that's true. I paid about $20 for my online traffic school course.

@sean8000 2 ай бұрын

It’s a scam bro they kept pushing my case back no I can’t even get in contact with them.. case going on for four years now

@hintofreality9876 10 ай бұрын

If it doesn’t go on your record or lose points then to me that’s a win I don’t care.

@86drive86 10 ай бұрын

what about the $600+ in fines and costs, I care about those too lol.

@hintofreality9876 10 ай бұрын

@@86drive86 I dont care about those, because I’ve gotten 20 plus tickets and have a clean record, even after a 140mph and 100mph ticket, the price for fees and lawyers is the yearly membership I pay to be able to drive my sport cars the way they were meant to be driven 😄 If you’re not ganna accept that then sport cars aren’t for everyone.

@Takeamomento 10 ай бұрын

@@hintofreality9876 who's your lawyer? I need their contact info. got a speeding ticket and the courtesy note doesn't give option to take traffic school. idc the fines, I don't want it on my record.

@Yancyik 3 ай бұрын

@@hintofreality9876who’s your lawyer pal

@theboatman360 8 ай бұрын

I have used them 3 times. I have a CDL. Not one on my license. Got 2 dropped completely. You should have went to jail for reckless driving.

@86drive86 8 ай бұрын

Let me get this straight... you've had at least 3 tickets, have a CDL so you presumably drive for a living, and you're calling me reckless?

@MichaelJones-yx4zv Жыл бұрын

You should be happy after traffic school it won't go on your record

@86drive86 Жыл бұрын

For sure, that part of the promise was kept, they kept this speeding ticket off my record haha. But I went into it with higher expectations and didn't come out happy with the results so I wanted to share the whole experience so others know what might happen.

@supremekingowl9350 Жыл бұрын

Aren't you only allowed to take the schooling 5 life time?

@86drive86 Жыл бұрын

@@supremekingowl9350 I'm in California and I have never heard of a limit on the number of times you can take traffic school. Maybe in other states there is a limit but I don't think there is one here.

@WANHandler 9 ай бұрын

@@supremekingowl9350it’s once every 18 months

@dwaynemosley4999 9 ай бұрын

@86drive86 you can go as much as you want BUT!!! They will only remove a point once per 18 months

@rickl4847 5 ай бұрын

How come everyone on here is saying OTR is charging 200 - 300 dollars. I have a speeding ticket and therequote was 1050.00?

@86drive86 5 ай бұрын

I'm not really sure, it may depend on a bunch of things, like the offense(s) you're charged with, your region and what attorneys are available in that area. Where are you located?

@rickl4847 5 ай бұрын

The ticket is in Henderson county Tn. It's a 200.00 speeding ticket

@86drive86 5 ай бұрын

wow I hate to say it, but unless you can find a cheaper attorney, it might be easier to just pay the fine and ask for traffic school if it's not already available. I wouldn't pay $1000+ to fight a $200 ticket unless you've got a bunch of prior tickets and this one would wreck your driving record.

@Iamyou591 4 ай бұрын

Hi Rick same here 1050 and Henderson county Tennessee please help me what happened

@Iamyou591 4 ай бұрын

@@rickl4847 Hi similar issue what happened with your case and your court date ?