Until the charging network and grid distribution is up to the job I'm avoiding these over-weight milk floats

@@boldfordis the electricity grid in UK that bad?, or do “you only shower when you are sure that your neighbour are not doing it at the same time otherwise I will run out off water “

@@jensdybrofrederiksen7922 What if the whole street wants to shower at the same time like people will all want to charge their over-weight, child-miner exploiting milk-floats.

@@jensdybrofrederiksen7922 No, the grid in the UK is fine; distribution operators lose income for not hitting targets, so there's incentive to upgrade the grid and avoid power outages (which are usually the result of winter storms downing lines rather than a lack of juice).

@@DT-dc4br `Winter storms` make it ok to not travel then?

Not trying to be rude , but 12 months and zero miles between MOT’s , did you try to check or research for previous accidents and repairs ? Good luck with the car🤙🏾

@@LittleJoshVarela Did all checks (paid for) - I had an MR2 I sold last year with 0 miles between 12 years. Car is perfect and running fine.

@@Dangerous_Brian that’s fantastic,had a problem with one Nissan leaf ,same background story,done my research and found photos of that same car in a garage I’m Park Royal all destroyed, had to back away from the deal 🤙🏾

@@LittleJoshVarela Little old lady had it past 5 years and used it very little. During Covid she parked it on the drive and never went out. Now she has an eye problem and the Dr. has told her not to drive for at least a year. All checks came back good, 3 full services in the past 5 years. All is really good fingers crossed - also get cheap energy off peak as I never removed economy 7 meters when I got gas central heating in then moved abroad for 10 years - paying off now.

With a warranty! That's pretty dang good

How many miles with the heater on?

@@contactjd about 40 miles but a puffer jacket was more effective

I have a petrol Aygo. Free tax, 60mpg and 123 fully comp for me and Mrs. Service it myself. Just can't see the point in electric car in my situation. Plus, can go far more than 70 miles and have the heater on 😅

What about the damage to the environment caused by BEVs, especially the batteries and tyres, and what about all those children whose lives were really stolen in digging the materials to support your virtue signalling?

@@KillerBill1953 Doesn`t matter to a EV perv about the children and the environment, in their `minds` they tick the box covering their Rs....and that`s all that matters.

@@KillerBill1953 Electric cars are heavier, which results in extra friction with the road, but the regenerative braking system found on EVs negates the need for friction brakes to be applied as often, therefore reducing particulate matter from brakes compared to ICE cars. There is a huge market in EV battery re-cycling. Samsung, Walmart, and Apple have signed the Responsible Mineral Initiative (RMI), which aims to set standards that would clean up the cobalt supply chain. Tesla are making their cathode cobalt free and changing to cleaner cheaper formulas. BMW made a deal with Swedish battery company, Northvolt, which sources its cobalt only from Australian and Moroccan mines to eliminate child miners from their supply chain. In 2023, LG and General Motors are expected to begin production of their latest battery called "Ultium," which is said to contain 70% less cobalt. Every part of your modern life uses batteries. So your assertion that it is only EV owners who are virtue signalling is mis-guided at best. At worst you have been told to be angry about new technology because you find it difficult to let go of old ways of thinking. And this is without any mention of the untold horrendous damage that oil companies and oil production has caused to millions of peoples lives and the natural environment.

yea and that would only cost you more than in petrol

@@DRSHANKER I drive a stinky diesel, which is likely even cheaper (I get close to 50 MPG) My comment wasn't for anyone that drives a vehicle with an I.C.E. 😏

Bargain

@@reggievonramstein yep, autocorrect.

I took annual leave of 3 days to tidy mine. It still needs tidying. Does anyone offer "Garage Tidy as a Service"?

That garage is spotless even the jet washer was neatly fitted.

I feel like I spend my life tidying my garage

Stop sitting on the sofa watching shit on tv and get into garage and sort ya shit out lol

Easy if you don’t treat it as a Monica room… out of sight out of mind. I think my garage will soon cause and evolution of some sort of matter 😂😂

I think I'm leaning more towards the lease, especially on a used car. The leased batteries come with a guarantee of capacity and so can be replaced by the manufacturer if they fall lower than that, and if you think about it the previous owner has taken the majority of the risk on that. If you pay 3 months of battery lease at like £50 a month then realise the range has dropped to below 75%. £150 for a brand spanking new battery replacement is well cheap.

@@lmaoroflcopter that’s a really good shout actually 👍🏾

Yep, same. Out of interest what engine are you getting 70mpg on.

@@change2023now honda civic sport 2015 diesel, it's a nice enough car, averages between 63mpg and 70 around town, on motorway I have got over 75, obviously depends how you drive but I don't particularly take it easy.

Shh.

Ours was great until it started dropping regular £500+ bills on us. Now replaced with MG ZS EV. It's OK but I miss the Zoe.

Indeed. If you are able to stick to home charging most of the time, then yes, massive savings over buying petrol are there to be had.... The occasional times you may get shafted using public charging, are more than compensated for by the savings 90% of the remaining time.

Zero maintenance 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

​@@Brian-om2hheven then I found it's not actually that bad compared to what my old car did. I worked out with the current ridiculous fuel prices I was paying about 22p per mile. Unless I'm paying 75p per KWH I'm not getting near that (75p could land me in the range of 23p-24p per mile) but on average it's 2p per mile using October Intelligent before that on my standard Electric before I got the Smart meter it was still only about 9p per mile and that's classed as crazy for home charging haha. All these EV nah sayers who spout rubbish like "it's as expensive to charge an EV and to fill with petrol" have got their heads up some orifice and are just cherry picking the worst thing whilst picking the best for the ICE car. Honestly I laughed when he said they wanted a car that had not lost range like an ICE wouldn't lose range as it got tired. Everything is less efficient when it's older.

But what about the day time electricity cost during all the other hours of the day which is twice the price.

@@ohyesitsme on a standard variable I was on 27p/KWh but on Octopus' Peak price it is 29p/Kwh (In my area) so still only works out about 9p/10p per mile so you're still less than what a petrol or diesel car costs per mile.

Wow, half price, the guy who originally bought it must have been peed off! Wonder why they depreciates so fast?

@@Markcain268 Seems to be that buyers want the very rapid charging. Anything without that is coming down in price.

@@Zebsy strange, most ev drivers brag about charging cheaply at home overnight lol

​@@Markcain268Precisely. A Zoe isn't going to be a road trip car though but it will be ideal for someone who comes home at night, plugs in and does the daily chores the next day with a full charge.

Can't see any other 1 year ZE50s on auto trader at half price so have to wonder why they sold it so cheap. I guess you will find out soon enough.

A source I found claims that the global market share of EVs was a tiny fraction of a percent in 2013, rising to 14% in 2022. Even though EVs were around a decade ago, they're quite few in number, compared to new ones. This will change over the next decade, as the new EV market share rose quickly year over year over that decade, but the 5-10 year old cars will nevertheless be few-ish for several years yet. But also maybe the number of buyers is fewer out of understandable caution, perhaps rising as people hear reports on the viability of older EVs, of various brands, what to expect, what to buy and not buy, how much to be willing to pay for what.

You can get usable ice in the uk for under £1k quite easily, much further range than the zoe too

@@Markcain268much more expensive to run though if you can charge at home. Based on £40ish a week in fuel for me to commute in my old Fiesta compared to around £4 a week in charging for the EV I have now. Fuel for the year costs £1800 or so more so the £5k EV pays for itself within 3 years before even mentioning servicing costs based on my experience of similar sized ICE and electric cars. I also don’t spend all my time charging because I rarely even need to use a public charger and don’t lose any time in my week putting fuel in saving me 5-10 minutes per week not including travel time if I had to go out of my way to a fuel station.

@@christopherhuggins5167 id have to pay off loan installments for a few years to pay for a used ev and repayments would definitely be more than the £50 a month fuel i use, insurance is a few hundred more too, by the time i break even the battery will most likely need replacing at a cost i can't afford which means another loan and back on the repayments again and all for some dull, bland shopping car that i would resent paying insurance for every year!

@@Markcain268 All my cars have been well under £1000, apart from my current one.

@@sie4431 all the cars ive had cost less than £1k, had very little trouble with them, mostly rust that saw them off in the end lol

Train was £52 and hotel £65.