Cool, hope you get the refund.

have you gotten it yet?

got it?

@@attackehh yup! Minus £30 or so thanks to currency conversion... and another £150 or so I paid in import taxes to have it shipped to me in the first place...

@@Seytonic awesome!!

I’ve made dozens of wholesale purchases on Alibaba over the past 5 years without a problem. But yea, this kinda stings

@Seytonic you tried upselling your new product and thus included a microSD card for use. Are you telling your buyers they are aliexpress microSD's? I myself would rather buy my own if I know they come from aliexpress or alibaba. A scammer got scammed lmao

@@vestike2218 lmao crybaby

@@vestike2218 we included a microsd because malduino is very picky when it comes to capacities, so we ended up going with a 128mb card, not something most people have. We bought them from Amazon in the end rather than Alibaba

@@vestike2218 Frankly many non-official products use wholesale cheap parts. Likely you have gotten the same SD cards or similar for other products.

That's a good point. Why didn't OP do this?

Yes they should do this

Definately

While this may work, there's a good chance Alibaba would ban your account, this in turn would block normal access to current parts supplies, that could be more painful if you are running a small online business.

@@vizionthing So create a new account, under a new email....

Was it only the case for SDHC/SDXC, or was it also the case for plain SD? I mean, it would be fair if SDHC cards wouldn't support SDI, but plain SD that were only used for compatibility reasons still should, right?

@FlameRat_YehLon The issue with plain microSD cards is that they're incredibly rare these days, we haven't seen them being sold anywhere apart from alibaba/aliexpress, and this video shows that those are not the places that we want to recommend. The SPI protocol is still a part of the standard and should be included in SDHC and later cards.

@@astrrra If that's the case, then maybe don't try to look for SD cards, look specificaly for "SPI compatible SD cards" instead. I'm pretty sure there are still commercial products that uses the SPI protocol, thus sourcing for this specific need should still be possible. I've even seen sellers that specifically sells eMMC cards despite those were likely rarely used and the seller claims it to be not compatible with most SD devices despite being the same shape. Basically, when something can't be assumed any more, don't assume it any more.

god i wish i could afford a flipper zero 😭

@@FlameRat_YehLon To be fair the problem is that the SD Card market has shown itself to be a complete wild west that no party private or public has shown the willingness and ability to enforce accurate descriptions in the slightest. This began with just throwing up listings for SKU's where they basically randomised the capacity value in the description. It is not spreading to the point that sellers clearly have the perception (apparently correctly) that they can misleadingly represent any and all features of the device and not be subject to proportional and effective sanctions. Without enforcement laws that prohibit generating thousands of SKU's by rolling the dice to select search keywords for the description are not effective and this seems to be pretty much what the market has devolved into, the descriptions are random combinations of words relying on the sheer number of variations to get orders for at least some of them and fulfil them with whatever cheap crap they have on hand regardless whether any part of the description actually matches the features of said product.

Nah, that is dumb. They are just bad at what they do. I've seen better phishing links that easily truck people that should know better. Hell I got one "from metamask" the other day that looks super legit

@@CMKloser They do thing differently, i think. i always receive badly written scam, and simple search on google can show you why they do that.

remember half the people in the world are below the average IQ line, with out doubt you are correct, this is by far the best way to target the most profitable marks er victims

Scammers are very different from hackers. This dude's are hopeless for clean business specially in IT stuff so they do dirty work because they are idiots. They are so idiot so that's why they need customer dumber than them, not nerd like us. I'm don't want to talk I'll for the victim, but we have nothing to do when they not asking like us.

Actually, there's a theory that scammers purposely do that so they wouldn't waste their time with people who actually know who's a scam and would instead mess with people who are not too tech-savvy so it's easier to scam them.

Was it a new account? They rarely side with accounts that are new or haven't spent much. Surprisingly many people are trying to scam AliExpress itself, like constantly using new accounts for 5$ discount

If you paid by credit card, you could open a dispute/charge back with them?

"nah bro they're not SD cards, they're Greggos cards"

Would a credit charge back be possible?

Is your fault..being places as best buy or Walmart where they only sell genuine ones only a fool go at Alibaba to buy microsd cards

> Still PLENTY of "sir do the needful and send me your credit card" Because that's an effective way of selecting the victims, see also my other comment.

A thousand in two years??? I deal with that a DAY!!!

@@Cornz38 no spam filter?

Oh yeah, I just got one a month ago. "Your account has been identified as inactive. Unless action is taken before , this account will be charged the inactivity service fee". And when I logged in (directly, no link clicking), PayPal hasn't said a single thing. it might have been a scam now that I compared this email with older Paypal letters. ... Or maybe not, IDK anymore, it's a mess!

@@Yorick257 actually that was very likely a legit PayPal mail. They started doing this inactivity shit I think in the beginning of 2022, I've gotten a few of those mails myself since. I guess the way to identify PayPal phishing mail is that the real PayPal will likely not address you by your name, while good phishing mails will

@@JohnDeaux or you can just check the from address

@@oyedeji.oyewole not sufficient any more - (a) because the from header can be spoofed, (b) because you can overwrite the from header and lastly because scammers figured out how to actually send out scam mails using PayPal chat feature that actually come from PayPal's email servers

@@JohnDeaux hmm, I never knew you could spoof those stuff, I wonder how much scams were in my inbox that I thought were legit

Yes, which is why its kind of on OP for not googling "will all microSD cards work with SPI" before buying them. Of course, I could have made the same mistake because you don't know what you don't know. edit: there are some very good stackxchange discussions on this topic with more detailed info.

Who is gonna buy a 4 gb SD card though?

@@roberteischen4170 anyone who needs one / anyone who wants to support the channel.

@@roberteischen4170scammers or people that need a cheap option for their cameras and camcorders

@@roberteischen4170 I bought one just a month ago to have something guaranteed to work reliably with my 3D printer. Many devices don't need high capacity storage and many don't work well with it, especially older designs.

Maybe Mitos is _also_ a brand, but from what I can tell, they do no make proper SD cards, only the MitosD cards that follow some of the SD specs. They do not use the proper SD logo ever. So they're still not proper SD cards, because SD is the spec. These are essentially imitation/counterfeit, and might be illegal in many countries outside of China, but it's in a bit of gray area due to the different name (like Nika instead of Nike)

indeed , this extends to anything , cyberpunk2077 exects had bright idea to "offsource" testing to romania and they hired some big software testing company there , why they not hired locals or in their own company? they wanted to save money and that romanian company was not hundrets of people but like far less and they not tested a lot things they did , they must done this before as up to few weeks of relese c0277 devs not cough on it they saved pennies , but costed it milions as we know how relese of it was funny is romanian goverment will side in lawsuits with scam company like they alweys do:P so CDPR wont ever see any compensation.

@@VarenvelDarakus The bigger problem here is that the government is able to intervene in a lawsuit. Politics and justice should be different powers, not controlled by one another. Romania is not a democracy. People are enslaved (minimum wage is less than minimum living cost, literaly). Most of the country is corrupt.

The crazy thing is that these people would probably make more money in the long run if they just made legit cards and started a new brand...Better cards = charge more. I understand the economics behind mass selling fake cards for cheap but I still cant help but think that in the long run they'd make more by just selling real cards.

Yeah, I was thinking "How the f*ck can AI help with fishing?" I guess it's a good thing I still mostly live in the real world!

A very good answer, that could be the culprit. Also, is seytonic sure that they don't work on SPI? Have him tried with another SPI device?

What software or hardware do you need to do that? I’ve always wondered what was going wrong with SD cards and Rpi, spy cameras, dash cams, etc

@@frep420 RPI's, spy cameras, dash cameras does not use the SPI interface, the SD interface does not need initialisation, the uSD start in SD interface mode, in order to switch to SPI mode you need to provide 80 clock's with the chip select high at ~400khz( some cards accept higher speeds for that, some are very strict and don't ), after that you need to set it up, get the supported mode and maximum speed, after that you can increase the SPI speed to desired speed not exceeding the card SPI speed, they can work in 1 ( SPI ) and 4 bit's ( SD ) or 8 bits for eMMC memories that use the same SD protocol ( I seen in the protocol that they can support the 2bit SD protocol as well ), but for SD cards SPI is mandatory supported, the same for SDHC, I don't know for SDXC but is possible to have the SPI IP as well. Some time because of some issues in uSD initialisation to use SPI interface when the speed is changed from initialisation speed to transfer speed something can go wrong and the lib can't access the uSD content, even if the lib indicate that the uSD has been initialised successfully. Another thing is that if they are 4GB SDHC, most probably they are the first batch of SDHC cards that they have issues on SPI initialisation because they use the first SDHC IP that came out immediately after SDHC specifications were out, they were the most problematic cards from the SPI interfacing point of view 🤷‍♂

After I sent the message I thought about my question. You are talking about the initialization of the SPI of the hardware, not the reader. Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it!

It will even violate its own content policy without any special prompting. I found that out by accident, and it was a result I didn't explicitly ask for and it was really disgusting. I'm never gonna tell it to write fanfiction ever again...

i think the same

If the return process fails, he can still sell them on the Maltronics store as obscure merch, obviously labeled as “non-compliant 4GB cards” in the listing.

Maybe learn how to preserve proofs properly then? Things might sound unfair if you don't do it the right way, but there have also been quite a lot of scammers that tries to scam sellers. Also when the quantity is high enough maybe just sign a supply contract with the seller directly rather than use an online platform to do the job.

@@FlameRat_YehLon sending pictures of it and me opening it on camera and showing that I received the wrong items were not good enough. I got a variety of excuses from the factory and a year later they tried to sell me something again and when I reminded them that they shipped the wrong items they put a bunch of emojis and said “it’s not that much money you lost so don’t be angry 😂😂😂” Alibaba trade insurance even asked me to send pictures of items that were missing and when I asked how that is supposed to be done they did not answer. I obviously do not buy from those factories that do that.but the ones where sample orders are good quality and they give me updates and actually want to form a longer lasting business relationship I work with directly. It’s a cost of business, I might get samples from 3 suppliers and if 2 deliver bad quality products I obviously do not go with them. I don’t really use alibaba anymore because as I said I have a person in china that buys direct and takes care of those things.

@@oNorw Well, trying to import things from a foreign source in China without going through an agent is just as annoying, if not more so. Everyone would have to learn how to deal with a foreign seller if they want to import directly from them, whether it's to or from China. In fact, even within China nobody make large quantity purchases directly on sites like Alibaba. The usual norm is to buy samples on these websites and sign direct contract for the volume purchase. Or alternatively they buy from websites that directly hosts and services their products (for example, JD), as opposed to buy from third party sources on a website, but that's the same as buying from an agent really.

I don't buy nearly enough to justify bothering to go through this process, but that sounds like good advice to me.

Gets you blacklisted on Alibaba for good, and what if you need something you can't get in another way, something unique from China?

@@SianaGearz People are wayy too afraid of this. Make a new Ali account, with a new virtual card, under new information and that's it. If it complains the card HOLDER is banned, just use your parents card, wife's, gf, whatever, you name it. I never had to do that, but soon might... Just last month I got shipped the wrong model of a plastic bezel and they wanted me to ship it back at my cost - which was the price of the thing itself. Upon questioning the seller, he went into silence. Filed a claim.

There wasn't a second partition, it was left blank. It sounds like the malDuino doesn't read partition tables and just uses it as a raw bunch of bytes. The partitioning to 2GB and the labelling on the card is probably because these were 4GB cards that failed QC due to bad NAND. You can overprovision SD cards and SSDs by just leaving space unpartitioned. This is sketchy coming from a seller like that as there are tools to properly resize the logical size so that the card reports to the host the 2GB size instead of 4GB but if you try to write it all you'll lose data. This is similar to the common SD card scam where people change the size and labelling of a 1GB SD card and have it report back 512GBs.

The beginning of the end really.

This comment could even be a bot!!

For some time already things like news articles have been ghostwritten by AI and the actual journalist just tweaks the facts to reflect what the paper wants to promote. Granted, that's not 100% written by the -hand- end effector of a robot, but its still majority a machine's work.

Why? Do ≤2GB cards specifically need to comply with the old non-HC standard, requiring extra electronics?

Also, they are not useless unless they have bad sectors. 4 GB can fit a decent collection of MP3s or audiobooks. Or a reasonable number of pictures if you forget or fill your main card in a DSLR. In such a situation, I was happy for an ancient slow 512MB card.

@@ts757arse WTF So now AI can be manipulated into being used for easily commiting infinite cybercrimes by just telling it to find vulnerabilities in softwares and giving any random excuse I wonder what happens when it's used by people to store private info like passwords maybe even credit card details Hell even if it has access to storage on a phone

I am coding as a hobby in C# but I can't even remember how to write a Hello World app in C++. As a POC I went into github to find a simple C++ project. Pasted to ChatGPT a C++ code snippet and asked it to explain what the program does and to rewrite it in C# - It gave me a an explanation of how it worked and gave me some c# code. I did like two changes to the output and it worked as intended. My test isn't something incredibly hard but I can only imagine the potential for teaching if treated carefully.

​@@p3tr0s1989 it can even find bugs in your code

I asked for an application letter and now I have a new job

@@MasterOfDisasterInAl lol wut 8'D

Yes. Malware on GitHub tends to be garbage, though

@@ts757arse the problem with this stuff: no matter how hard it gets, we will find a way to make it cross lines. Humans push limits pretty well I think.

Possibly also on articles and proofs of concept by security researchers. Very possible they trained it on academic publications.

Yes they did, Slowpoke

It won't tell you what it's databases are. I asked it.

Pretty expensive gift lmao @seytonic should sell them to us via a link in the description or similar. Just mention it on an intro or outro and I would happily buy one for $1-2. Don't even need it shipped - just for the cause.

Yes thats definitely a possibility if they just plugged it in and said "oh it doesn't work". I've tried a number of microSD and from what I recall all worked with SPI (even the obscure brands), some needed an additional delay before responding as you say. If you google "How can I initialize/use SD cards with SPI?" there is a good stackxchange post with tons of tips.

100MB is hilarious