Bruh he told him to get a 600, thats like telling a child not to put a fork in a power socket but then handing them a knife instead. Both are dangerous af for a first time rider.

@@ChaoticMartian not really, someone who takes a motorcycle safety course, and has ridden mountain bikes could definitely start on a 600, sure they might drop it, but it's a hell of alot safer than a 1000.

@@ChaoticMartian entirely disagree my first bike was 1100cc all you gotta do is slowly increase your limit. I didn't leave first gear or my neighborhood for the first month and a half of having the bike. Then I got comfortable with changing gears, then driving faster, then driving even faster and then after a few (about 8) months of riding everyday for a few hours. I started pushing the bike

@@josephgallo5170 yeah its still dangerous or you wouldnt have limited yourself right? Not everyone has the same self control as you do.

@@ChaoticMartian it is still dangerous I agree. Although I'm not special though, we as a society gotta stop letting the lowest common denominators hold us all back and start learning from successful people

This is what i call good customer service. not just thinking about making a quick commission, but building a long lasting customer relationship. the initial purchase may be lower, but that kid will bring in more money over time. as opposed to when ....he's dead.

but yet he kills himself with a muzzle on his face how's that for to the point

Nice you copy pasted the comment above you

Honestly would’ve wanted him to be my sales person lol

Denis is awesome

It isn't a motorcycle salesman's job to make sure you don't do something stupid. That is your job.

@@destroya3303 It's funny how people like you single out a comment to disagree with. Really illustrates how entitled you are, also shows how much you really care about other people. Everyone is just "doing their job". You're probably one of the types that needs someone to tell you not to drink bleach too.

@@destroya3303 It is the motorcycle salesman's job to make sure you are happy with the bike you buy. Pretty sure the buyer won't be that happy in a wheelchair or a coffin. But even in a more basic level, it is not ok to potentially harm people just for financial gains, even if legal.

@@destroya3303 Some people think bang manufacturers and sellers should be legally responsible for what happens after their legal transactions. Some people think bangs are too dangerous for anyone to own and that people that disagree are responsible for their misuses. In this case however there's an argument to be made that by simply taking responsibility that isn't legally required you can protect idiots and the hobby. To be honest it's a bit telling that some of these bikes are still legally sold to teens. I remember in the 90s when there was quite a bit of talk about heavily regulating powerful bikes and it could just be that the "community" is what curtailed that. I'm not a rider. My dad and uncles were avid riders accept for one who nearly died as a teen after laying one down to avoid a direct collision with a pickup truck. He still rode... sort of... like in his driveway. He wasn't weak he just suffered spinal damage that led to twitches and motor issues. He focused on cars after and became a lifelong professional mechanic. My point is that while none of us have a legal responsibility like this we could if the masses dictated it. That and loving each other is a good way to go.

He's a real motorcycle enthusiast. Through and through.

Not wearing his mask indoors

still willing to sell a s1000rr to someone who didnt know where the throttle or clutch is.

@@amirtz3342 lol def could use a lesson on why a mask could be life and death for someone as old as him

@@nofx84 A piece of fabric won't do jack. Only an N95 or proper respirator will work.

@@amirtz3342 Not wearing a useless mask for a disease that hasn't been proven to exist. If you have a functional brain, do your own research. :)

Not with the way he’s wearing that mask

@@jacobgreen6899 give Dennis a break. He’s older and more likely to harm himself more than anyone else in this video considering everyone around is young and healthy.

Oh whatever dude. He's smart, he wants to sell him 2 bikes, small one now, big one later

@@Dani2wheels he just doesnt want to be the guy that let a greenhorn kill himself! Thats a fuckin awesome man

Dennis has seen some sh**

in some ways its strategic too, it ensures he sells his 650's and 450's, otherwise almost anyone would get a liter bike as its not much more. But yeah never start with a liter bike, get yourself a good 450 or 650, and even that is still a lot of power that can scare you, but at least it isn't likely to get you killed.

yeah and he's probably newer at the job with a lot of pressure to get some results while dennis probably has better position with some leeway to do as he wants

he cant tell someone they cant buy it though. Say your peace, then there on their own.

@@adamnichols476 well, of course

@@adamnichols476 You can most certainly refuse, no one is obligated to sell you anything, as long as their reasoning doesn't have to do with anything discriminatory towards a protected class. That said, it's probably not a good way to hold down a job if you're not in a position to call shots.

@@cannibal_bacon I’ll tell you all the facts, tell you what’s my opinion, I wont lie to you, and at the end of the day, I’m not going to restrict your freedom. I trust you to be a person with common sense. I’m not a democrat.

Scary shit

That's awful shit

@@Bardo420 in deed

I'm trying to sell my wrx to buy my first bike... that's why I'm looking at what I need beforehand.

@@Ieatzboltz when you do just be safe. I have never had a motorcycle. I was wanting one at the time of the accident and was actually checking the bike out when a car pulled out in front of him and he went flying through the air. The impact knocked him out of his boots and helmet and the small rav 4 he hit did a 180 into oncoming traffic. The sun was setting and he was coming from the west so they didn't see him. I currently have a jeep srt and was seriously considering getting a motorcycle, but after seeing that I changed my mind. I have a daughter on the way at 33 and don't want to take too many unnecessary risks. If I were an experienced rider I would go for it but I'm not so I'm going to stick to four wheels. I saw a guy get hit in Florida as well last summer. If you get one make it loud and stay safe.

God bless you and everyone else who did the same🙏🏼

Is a 16 year old buying a motorcycle common? I will be 17 in 2 weeks and I’m saving up for a Yamaha R3.

@@angeloc1340 hey My friend! Im 19 and bought my first bike. A cb650f, i do love it so much! Honestly I really think you will love the r3! Its fkn 321cc! That thing is super super dope! In Switzerland it’s common for young guys to ride 50cc or 125cc with 16 and when you turn 18 you can ride up to 48 hp. Young ppl like us ride, but not to much. Please take care and wear leather protection suit! It’s so important !

@@angeloc1340 Dont do it. Someone I know just died on a bike like that just 3 days ago, he was like 20 years old. They shouldn't even be legal to drive period. Like all these cars have to have airbags and seat belts, but you can just drive basically a wet paper bag at 100 mph legally, its insane.

@@mikeworkman3593 they should be, everyone has a choice. It depends on what sort of driver you are going to be.

Exactly, thats called being an adult, not on salesman if this guy still insists on buying it. All these salesman did all they could do, the young guy from apex actually sold me my sons 12" stacyc ktm

agreed

I agree 100%

The problem is that they can sell you an insane bike as your first one. The law should not allow such things. The rules for bike riders here in the UK is extremely strict. A little too strict though but I would rather have that than no limits. Madness if you ask me.........

@@rufus1346 IMO It should be just like it is, I don't need or want the government telling me what I can and can't do. If you buy something you shouldn't then that's on you.

Lmao yeah a first time rider is 100 percent safe on a 600 sport bike 😂😂😂 I guess you've never worked in a hospital and treated motorcycle trauma patients.

100 percent

Probably not but i get what you were trying to say.

I’m a board certified critical care doc, and I 100% agree lol.

Dennis sold me my first bike!

Because we need the government to control us more...

I think that should be mandatory everywhere

@@orangedealer6931 This is America. Personal responsibility + stupidity is your right.

That's because in the 70's too many people were getting into serious accidents from inexperience and riding large bikes they couldn't handle

Even with the upped CC limit for LAMS bikes now, it's a much better way of doing it. 660cc, even restricted, is definitely on the limit of what is safe for a new rider - why America, and presumably other countries, let new riders ride superbikes is negligent at best.

This. I love Dennis. He’s a good man.

And he wants to build relationships with return customers. He probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing he sold a 500lb missile to a newb. Fortunately, 1st time young riders get turned off by the cost of insurance if they are financing the bike

He's a good dude, see him from time to time when I browse around at Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza.

Im glad my brother stopped riding a street bike. He is a firefighter and scraped lots of people from the asphalt in parts.

@@CaptainRon1913 yeah probably not gonna have that many return customers if you sell a beginner a 1000cc bike

That is a GREAT way to explain to a teenager that you don’t need a R1 😂😬

Let me guess, he bough it.

I'm 19 and want to buy s1000rr as first bike, I'm upgrading from my bicycle

@@str8xrippin that is a great idea!!!!

@@Alex_G1885 thank you for the support, I will update you every few months, can't wait to get it and go 200 mph on the first day. I'm so excited

Just in the first few minutes I already like Dennis. Tells you how it is and doesn't bullshit you.

I feel the cap

I live at this exact Rocky Mountain he is awesome he has some good knowledge about this stuff

You need to be blunt when talking about the dangers of motorcycle riding. We have enough fatalities as it is.

Yup

Glad he was honest Dennis is the best

I'd have listen once he started speaking... Seams like a soiled guy!!

am i tweaking or did u just contradict yourself with the “i sold cars n bikes in several dealerships” just to say “i only worked at one dealership” 😭

Yea and the comment I want to go as fast as I can as soon as I can. I’d be like yo man get on an airplane.

Ands that’s why you would be an awful salesman😂

One less idiot on the road xD

To all my motorcyclist why did u choose a motorcycle over an atv

I’ve been in sales for 25 years and that one would have been the end of my patience as well.

Don't you have misinformation to spread?

We got an angry used car salesman here ^^

lmao...couldn't have said it better!

@@Christian-nv6et you mean like a car salesman does?

@@geraldwest3428 Lol

Got me too 😂

I wanna turbo my little girl machine so bad

he was such a great guy. I would like to hang out with him sometime

Actually he is I say the same when people come to the shop and ask questions like that

lol!! 👍😂🍻

@@BikesandBeards next video

In England, we have engine size rules for beginners and age restrictions on the bigger sized bikes. Trouble is, many middle aged men have a mid life crisis and want to get a big bike that they feel they missed out on when younger. So, they take a week's intensive training course on an under powered size appropriate hired learning bike, with a test at the end, then because they're older and can afford the insurance etc, they go and purchase a vastly over powered bike for their abilities. Guess what, they have a very high crash rate. The laws covering bike sizes should depend on how long you've ridden smaller engined bikes, no matter your age.

@@mickk8519 the guys who end up falling off hard and regret it immediatly basicallly?

I see what you did there... hahahahahahah

Lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I died

Lmaoooo!!!! Omg hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

G-d, that was funny!

Omg man, made my day. And im taking this one for my first bike purchase.

I'm guessing Dennis made that mistake once and vowed to never do it again

@@lukewhetzle831 it is Rocky Mountain Cycle Plaza in Colorado springs CO. They do have beginner dirt bikes, actually one of the largest selections I've seen. Great place, my next dirt bike will be coming from them for sure.

Me too man!!!

@luke hit up 5th gear as well bought plenty of out bikes from them over the years.

@@geffy89 oh shit really? I go to CC. I need to get something, and they seem awesome!

I had a buddy switch from mtn bikes to motorcycles. Guy is insanity good on a bike. Endless wheelies on his 600 and on dirt he can bunnyhop his crf450.... I have been riding for 20 years and can't get that back tire to pop up like him.

I mean it actually does help. Mountain bikers have good balance usually.

I ride MTB a lot, decently gnarly stuff, it helps a bit? but controlling a big nasty bike with ludicrous power, not so much! (I"d wager often MTB is more dangerous though)

Then you will want to be able to stand for bumps, the fat bikes won't let you and throttle response times are 10 or 12 sec!

@@jacobt5720 Thats great but your buddy is the guy who usually becomes a statistic. Having balance isn't the same as having the ability to deal with speed and pulling endless wheelies is great until he finds out the hard way that 5mph on a mountain bike means you stop - 100mph on a 600 means you hit whatever is infront before you can even get the wheel down. He's one lazy/distracted driver away from a morgue.

This cracked me up because my old turbo celica is a way scarier driving experience than my first bike lol

Scotty Kilmer???

😮

Exactly what I was just going to say! Haha this is great all the way around!

😵

🤣

If I was walking by I give an obvious stink face

The "accelerator"

the point was to be cringe, lol

Thats... the whole point... of what hes doing...

@@1nesMcCookie so if you see someone doing something incredibly embarrassing, on purpose, you don't cringe? Interesting.

Did you see his face?😂😂 He was sooo done

Where the throttle?. lol

I loved when he tried to twist the grip.

If I was salesman I think any bike be bad idea of don't know clutch

Asking where's the '____' is part of my little quiz before I let anyone ride my motorcycle. If you can't name the thing I'm pointing at or point at the thing I'm naming then you don't get to ride no exceptions. I'm not an instructor, it's not my job to teach you how to hurt yourself. I knew a kid who had his motorcycle endorsement for a while but hadn't got himself a bike. I thought "He has his endorsement, he'll be fine" but then he went down on the opposite side of the street trying to pull out of the driveway. Never again.

I take it Dennis doesn't care for squids! 😆

I hope you show him the video

Why poor Dennis?

A really unexpected and morale booster to continue the service to humankind! When I was 25, I got a ride to the local Harley shop on the back of my bro's Triumph to purchase my first new Harley. I built a chopper welding and all with a 1973 high compression 650 Yamaha. She was a real kick buttock bike. They allowed me to sit on every bike on the show room floor I wanted to. I was wearing old blue jeans, a white tee shirt, and my old boots, so I don't think they thought I could really afford a new bike anyway. On the way in the shop, there sat a chromed-out stock FXE. A 1200 cc 74 C.I. Shovel head that was a 1978 1/2-year model with very low miles. It pissed me off they had the price taped to the paint on the front fender. I went to it after seeing all I wanted inside and peeled off the tape. I had C.D.'s but wanted a loan for credit purposes. Told them I would be back in a couple hours. Didn't get the I.D. # or anything. DOH! Had the bank call them. Met the officer who owned the bike about an hour after they were supposed to close. But they stayed open. Handed Deputy Flack 36 one-hundred-dollar bills and drove her home. Man, oh man was she sweet! Plenty of power, turned like no bike I had ever ridden, and with the dual disc up front, she stopped on a dime and would leave change. Best deal ever. That was just a little over 42 years ago. I still love that motorcycle! But Thats not what you were talking about. They would have let me take any bike I wanted. At 6' 1" and about 145 back then I could have handled any bike they had. My goal was an Electra glide, But I took the sporty model anyway. Thanks for the film, I enjoyed it. And as you can tell, it took me back to my time in the new bike shop! On 02/20/1980 @ 6P.M. And contrary to all that has been said about these bikes, it has NEVER broken down or left me anywhere. A breaker hit the bottom of the seat or frame or a bolt (something to short it out) ONE time and shut down. While I was standing there wondering what could be wrong, I heard it re-click. Took the seat off put the breaker back in its saddle and drove happily on! Hello Dep. Flack! I sometimes rode with him and his buddy while they were on patrol as they were motor cops. He would brag that it was his old bike because I had added more chrome, custom paint, inlaid custom seat to match the pain, comfortable bars, dual gas caps, just so many things to make it a riding show bike. Sorry I drug it on, I am an old man now and I got pleasure talking about it. So many memories!!!

i can go and buy one without a course? does the course not give you a license? i’m 22 and thinking of getting my first bike

@@Three-Trece3 You CAN buy one without having taken a course. The endorsement on your license comes from the DMV. At least here in Texas, there is a written exam you have to take. But that's about it. Take a course. It's not that expensive, and you get to learn in a controlled environment on somebody else's bike. The fundamental's you learn there are key to successful riding. I have ridden off and on for nearly twenty years, and I have only dropped a bike one time. I dropped it because I was not paying enough attention to the fundamentals in that moment.

I miss Denver man. Moving back seems like a financial nightmare.

@@casey360360 same.

Yeah, C Springs is my home town as well. I love riding in Colorado, well actually just about anywhere, I spent so much time in the bike shops as a kid and everybody was so cool with it. I'm sure they knew eventually I'd have enough money to buy one.

Dennis has been there for over a decade. I've known him for years and he's a great guy.

ROFL

Avid rider when I was a pup. Took 25 years off riding to raise a family the bought a naked bike with a comfy seating position but yet sporty cuz I was done raising a family!. When I was about to turn it on and ride off into the sunset, I asked where the choke was located. Doh! The salesman and his mechanic laughed a bit.

He didn’t want you dying unless you made him beneficiary lmao

Hey! Some of us don't even have a license lol. I appreciate honest people myself, but if somebody knows what they want, they better be able to get it. This is America after all.

Well, I think he's Canadian, but still

That's why I got the fastest baddest thing years before I got my bike license, so ppl wouldn't cringe 🤣😎💨💨💯

@@barryallen5507 They did say that you can buy any bike you want. But they don't recommend it where I live in the UK you have to take the test then you can level up which should be the case across the world really

What are you talking about, its other's responsibility to protect me from myself. I can not be responsible for my decisions and actions.

@@zeropointmx2552 Well said. It's like fat people who go into McDonalds. Do we really expect a cashier not to sell them hamburgers because they are doing harm to themselves? Being free means being responsible for your own life and safety

As a rider with 12 years experience, If I was a motorbike salesman I'd rather strictly say no and refuse to sell to new riders a big engine bike rather than getting that fat commissions check. I dont want to deal with sad or teary-eyed mothers coming in the store every now and then telling their son is dead or coma in hospital and if they can sell back the wrecked motorbike to us

Yeah I mean you can try your best to point them to a different bike but if they want to risk their life by and get something over powerful then that’s their choice.

@@ridge9066 I agree. You are responsible for your choices & actions.

But that is the thimg that decides if they're a good salesman.

isn’t it legal to ride any bike? i thought there aren’t any power limits in the us.....obe of the reasons in glad i live here

yup, this. if a customer comes into my store and keeps insisting that he wants/needs a 450 race bike or a GSXR, I’m not gonna tell him no. it’s his money and choice.

Thats the difference of one time sales and life time sales how many riders do you know that have ever owned one bike if you sell a starter bike then a 600 than a 1000 to a person you make more in the long run you want them to have the best experience as possible to become a repeat Customer

In the end as long as the customer well understands the danger, that's what matters.

I volunteered to ride a bike to the shop for my friend after he made a deal on it. No matter what gear I was in, or how fast I was going. Riding it regular, not powering it or babying it, when I twisted the wick above ANY normal driving that front wheel would come up. Not in a real scary way, like pop up instantly or anything. Just the front would just start rising. It all felt so well balanced and such, that I believe if it were mine, I could walk it wheel up anywhere at any time and still have full control. I have never driven such a bike since that day, and don't even remember the name of it.

Some people aren't meant to own or ride powerful motorcycles.

I've heard a 400 or 600 is a good first bike to understand complete throttle control before you ever decide to move to the big bois. I'd think I never will get a 1000cc, cause I'm not that typpa guy but we never know.

@@NAGaming513 600 sport bikes make 100+ horsepower and are almost as quick as liter bikes up 100 mph or so. Be careful.

@@tavspop Cheers for the headsup, I've been researching around and I think I'll start off with the Husq Svart 401 as my beginning rider. I'm looking for a good daily rider so it might be a solid shout.

Thanks for sharing this story...I really do hope other salesmen listen. 🙏🏼🙏🏼

I'm sorry that you went through this. I know it's not your fault. But I know that pain and I feel for you. Thank you for sharing your experience and hopefully someone learns from it.

Sad story, but man I'm out of breath just reading it. You've made a novel out of one sentence.

Wow, thats rough. You tried your very best to do the right thing, which is more then alot of people would have done. Sometimes despite our best efforts, people do foolish things. Thanks for sharing that story, that was hard for me to read let alone live.

Thank you for sharing that with us.

yeah then when asked if a s1000rr is a good bike for him after asking where the clutch and throttle are responds "they are all good bikes"

@@stavencapp he said they are all good bikes, but he recommended a 600

90cc, 125,, 250,, 500,,250,, 600,750,, 900,, that's how you should do it too many dyin for speed too young

@@lizcole9827 are you going to pay for all of those bikes my guy???

@@azariahh8175 that's how I did In s fashion 250 - Honda c90- 125-,,500 550 --400 250--- another 550--900--x3 1100 now on a 1500vn

I’m Brazilian, and around here a 125 or 150cc is the absolute standard. Grew up and learned to ride on a Honda CG 125. Still own it, and it’s a fantastic bike for city riding! Now I own a 350cc and it’s plenty enough for me.

I don't ride fast, but a big engine always pulls better when accelerating, you don't need to be cruising 165mph all day though

@stilkus yep its like having a lot of horsepower in your car You don't have to use it but it's there if you ever need it

did we watch the same video? Nowhere did any of them try and steer him away from these high powered bikes. They didn't push a sale to their credit, but had he said i want this r1 or s1000rr guaranteed they would have written him up no problems

@@stavencapp I mean they would probably get in trouble if they refused to sell to a customer. They’re doing their best to help him out there.

Same as NZ but from 250cc-650cc the bikes have to have approval, big difference between a heavy ass 650cc cruiser and a ZX-6R!

There’s a lot of good people here in my experience after a long while. The problem is social unrest, which is everywhere now/