DIY Welding with Car Batteries

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Rinoa's Auspicious Travails

Rinoa's Auspicious Travails

10 жыл бұрын

so i finally am able to weld with car batteries. my previous attempt was nowhere near as good. unfortunatly since i've never actually stick welded, i don't know how this compares to a real welder. i think i may need differant rods. these rods came from a construction site and they use very powerful welders.

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@donjohnson2639
@donjohnson2639 8 жыл бұрын
Your rods are wet! Stick them in the oven for a couple hours and dry them out, your using too much power/heat and your polarity is backwards. Also welding galvanized will create poisonous fumes
@milliondollar2981
@milliondollar2981 4 жыл бұрын
Don is 100% correct on all statements! Way to go Don!
@benji376
@benji376 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don
@colbornfarms4849
@colbornfarms4849 3 жыл бұрын
True life
@cameronlittell5678
@cameronlittell5678 2 жыл бұрын
@benz merc Welding on galvanized without a respirator will eventually give you parkinson’s disease
@brantkeltner88
@brantkeltner88 8 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of negative comments! That's to bad! As a welder, I can tell you we are a rude breed, and are very critical and prone to judgement! LOL. You should see the comment section of a welder group forum! That being said, I think your experiment was interesting. 1). All fumes are hazardous to inhale, but Galvanized materials put of an exceptionally toxic cloud. 2). As you stated, you aren't familiar with arc welding, so that was one of your big issues. when the flux, (that cattail like coating around the filler metal that makes up a welding rod) gets hot, cracks, and falls off, you have a problem welding, even if you had the finest welder in the county. Try striking the rod like a match when you start, and drag the rod around some, while you establish a good steady arc. Never start by just poking the steel. That will stick every time. 3). I believe you had the right conditions to weld when you had 3 batteries / 36 volt set up. However, I would try reversing your electrode polarity. 4). I know nothing about the risk of the batteries exploding. I would try to find more out about that however, because if it did happen, it doesn't sound like much fun. I hope this was "constructive criticism." I thought it was a cool Video!
@mrgrey4114
@mrgrey4114 6 жыл бұрын
God loves a trier I’ve learnt from video
@bryanroupe8646
@bryanroupe8646 5 жыл бұрын
If he had reversed it, it would have welded alot better.
@seanpc11
@seanpc11 5 жыл бұрын
@@bryanroupe8646 Yes, DC welding you ground with the Positive side or you get too much splatter.
@christiansotterley3805
@christiansotterley3805 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah welders are dumbasses proud of a grunt trade.
@CheekyMonkey1776
@CheekyMonkey1776 5 жыл бұрын
Brant Keltner Thank you for being kind to this kid. My fist intention was to berate this young man for attempting to weld galvanized steel but saw your post first. Im sure your approach was much more effective than mine could ever be. Bless you.
@terryberg
@terryberg 7 жыл бұрын
Reverse the polarity and you'll see how much better it works. This will keep the electrode from attracting to the material you are welding, it will also cause the molten metal to stick to the material instead of splatting all over the place.
@leoarreguin4167
@leoarreguin4167 7 жыл бұрын
wow you weld as good as I do.
@georgebeattie8930
@georgebeattie8930 4 жыл бұрын
I think you welding aluminium with steal electrodes. You clamped the rods wrong. Your supposed to clamp them at the end no in the middle. Great vision though
@tomharrell1954
@tomharrell1954 8 жыл бұрын
You need a little help here super genius. The black wire should go to the negative post of the battery and the welding rod "electrode" holder. (not the red) It is DC electronegative welding. The red wire goes to the positive battery post and to the worrk piece. You did not have quite enough amps to get your weld going in the beginning. You could use 2 or 3 batteries in series. Or you could use 2 batteries in parallel. In either case still use the negative to hold the electrode. At the end you were using too much amperage and it melted the work piece. next never weld or heat any galvanized pipe with zinc. The zinc will go into a gas with the heat and poison you. Bad medicine if you like living. Third when you weld don't drag the electrode across the work. Hold it just about the work to allow the arc. Make small circles to get the liquid metal puddle going. Then move the little circles in a line over the area to be welded. Forth the rod you were using was way too big. It is for deep welds at high amps on very thick metal. A 2mm rod will cause a load of 90 to 150 amps. This will be a good load for the batteries and it is less than a car starting. It will be very safe. You should be able to weld for probably 15 minutes according to battery charge and condition.
@NikeRednecks21
@NikeRednecks21 8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Harrell actually if you were welder like i am, you would know that there are 3 polarities you can weld in. dc electrode negative as you stated, dc electrode positive like whats shown in the video above, and ac (alternating current) You can weld with either polarity and each one has its own perks depending on the rod being used and the pattern/transfer method.
@joserincon7338
@joserincon7338 8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Harrell brother a question, when connecting the batteries in series or parallel welding no matter ?? or as it is better !! and I understand that you must use the positive in series or in parallel to the ground and the negative electrode where does the truth ???
@tomharrell1954
@tomharrell1954 8 жыл бұрын
+Jose Rincon you can use the pos to the electrode. In a very few cases that will work better. Most of the time the neg goes to the electrode. It will simply work better that way. It depends on the metal. batteries in series will give higher voltage. Higher voltage will burn in deeper. But not last so long. Batteries run down faster. Batteries in parallel will stay at the same voltage and will last longer. If you have several batteries you could run some in parallel and some in series to adjust the voltage and last a longer time. Hope this helps.
@joserincon7338
@joserincon7338 8 жыл бұрын
Clearly, if it was of tremendous help, I work with it and you never know when you might need that information for an emergency. so I stay in it was certainly connected in series and in parallel, maybe it while both combinations. If you get chance and explains it agradeseria and apologize thank you.
@sephangelo4603
@sephangelo4603 8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Harrell Just connect a choke or a transformer between a terminal and stinger and DC will work just fine, DCEN OR DCEP.
@12101DyM
@12101DyM 9 жыл бұрын
Try setting the batteries up in series-parallel. That way you get 24v to start a bead and enough amps to keep it going
@brotheradam
@brotheradam 2 жыл бұрын
the other problem is your clamp goes positive to item, rather than negative and stick goes in negative, If you are welding on a truck frame you might need three batteries but most items in a farm only need 24 volts
@scarzdeztro3387
@scarzdeztro3387 2 жыл бұрын
run it in series
@davidjames1063
@davidjames1063 11 ай бұрын
24 volts is not enough to sustain an ARC, even with 1/16" rods. Just tried it using, DC-Reverse, on short Guage 0 cables.
@evahle
@evahle 9 жыл бұрын
I love experimenting. Thanks for doing this for me! Nice video.
@mrsseasea
@mrsseasea 7 жыл бұрын
I feel your specialty is batteries......not welding? Might want to call your dad and have him bring your welder back!
@jt450rcrf
@jt450rcrf 5 жыл бұрын
You should try putting the batteries in pairs parallel and the group the in series so that you are welding with 24 volts but have more amperage. That will help the problem of sticking the rod also you can tig weld with that set up using electrode negative. It is much more controlled that way.
@robsmithresident-reptiles11
@robsmithresident-reptiles11 7 жыл бұрын
u need to hold the electrode in the negative and earth the metal with the positive I know it's opposite to a welder but given it a try
@iplaymytele
@iplaymytele 5 жыл бұрын
I’m only making a comment because in high school ( almost 41 years ago ), in Metal shop high school we had tons of war surplus machinery to use...! It was great...! Milling machines, giant Lathes, DC welders and regular AC welders....! We were taught how we could wet The welding rod reverse the polarity, and use a DC Welder as a cutting device....! And that is exactly what you done here especially with those thick rods.....! I have a old Lincoln and a Miller Stick welder and use them quite often.... When I saw you using car batteries, your cables hooked up incorrect, with your ( too thick welding rods lying on a wet table..! ) , It brought back High school memories of “ good old Mr. Jackson “ teaching us different techniques and Tricks of welding like.... Using a Wet Rod and a Reverse powered DC welder to cut metal with.....!
@justinparker5937
@justinparker5937 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff that wedding the rod and using it for cutting is a good piece of information. We as a people need to share more basic info like this.
@countryboylife5darlowe391
@countryboylife5darlowe391 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks on the info on how too make a home made welder! Awesome i see it gets really hot. Thx for ur time
@johnlee727
@johnlee727 3 жыл бұрын
Before you do that put the rods on the negative side not the positive
@omsingharjit
@omsingharjit 4 жыл бұрын
What material is used in the core of welding rod is it just pure iron ?
@melindaeaton5717
@melindaeaton5717 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I learned from both the video and the comments. I don't have a welder and am just about to give this a try. The tip to replace the end of the battery cable will really help. I am less scared having watched this.
@carlosceoofredlinequickshift
@carlosceoofredlinequickshift 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you could do this, that's wild thanks bro
@minorpyro69
@minorpyro69 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. i wasn't sure if i NEEDED two batteries but this video shows i will need two, maybe 3. GOOD VID!
@compwiz00
@compwiz00 8 жыл бұрын
+B DL It works far better if you use something more secure than jumper cables to connect the batteries. You should use proper lugs like car wiring does, otherwise you'll never get enough amps and you'll keep welding your stick like OP does.
@dannymartinez2778
@dannymartinez2778 7 жыл бұрын
Gotta love all the tradesmen throwing a hissy like a boss angry with an apprentice. Rinoa doesn't work for you, he can learn to weld at his own pace!
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 7 жыл бұрын
i agree, haha
@stephenfuller8345
@stephenfuller8345 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I’m not a welder but learned a lot from those who are here. I’m a Gold Prospector, and this has possibilities for high temp kiln to smelt Gold with!
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
actually look into using nichrome wire for heating element, if not, look into using graphite as a resistive heating element. graphite has some resistance so if you put low volts with high amps through it (like a big battery charger or welder) it can heat up without burning away. i do not mean an arc torch. i recommend using a shielding gas for melting at that high of a temp. and furthermore, passing electricity through the slag can seperate the remaining metals trapped in it.
@VerifyVeracity
@VerifyVeracity 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think if I use my golf cart batteries to weld with it would hurt them much, I wold disconnect the cart from the batteries first, it is a 6 battery x 8V. (48V.+) system but I don't have to use all the batteries if I needed a lower voltage, they are Deep Cycle Lead Acid Battery?
@charredskeleton
@charredskeleton 8 жыл бұрын
You know I now have more confidence in trying to weld for my first time ever ! I have a harbor freight 110 stick welder and a garage with a concrete floor.
@lucifersinister3397
@lucifersinister3397 9 жыл бұрын
Seems very useful. Great vid
@TheJustin0494
@TheJustin0494 8 жыл бұрын
when your out in the woods with a couple jeeps and break some shit comes in handy
@LifesAdventures555
@LifesAdventures555 5 жыл бұрын
In another video it was recommended that you connect the Negative to the stick and the positive to the body being welded. Why is this? which one is correct? Thanks.
@supchurch8055
@supchurch8055 5 жыл бұрын
Works ! Just as a spot welder in a pinch . Can improve it with a heat dial from an electric stove top (table top hot plate) negative electrode , minimum 2-12v batteries in series connection . 1/8 or smaller 6010,7018
@CharisWilliams
@CharisWilliams 6 жыл бұрын
Love seeing a plan come together :)
@villageallvarietiesbestcol872
@villageallvarietiesbestcol872 3 жыл бұрын
So good
@sarahhoward9081
@sarahhoward9081 5 жыл бұрын
Super genius, ”screw thingy”. Lol
@sarahhoward9081
@sarahhoward9081 5 жыл бұрын
It’s called an Allen wrench;)
@StreetKingz4Life
@StreetKingz4Life 7 жыл бұрын
You suppose to really have the positive in this DC case as the ground,and weld with the negative that's why it keeps sticking and coming out as laggy splattery beads
@Russi4N
@Russi4N 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@kenoneil2063
@kenoneil2063 7 жыл бұрын
wrong
@justinparker5937
@justinparker5937 4 жыл бұрын
I know this was like a year ago. But people if you have a safety concern simply tell the person. But the computer chair jockeys being a$$ O's will only hinder intelligent people who are generally shy and reserved from sharing their knowledge with the rest of us idiots. Thank you man for your video and saving me the time experimenting. Keep up the good work you're still helping people a year later.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 4 жыл бұрын
year ago? more like 7
@DevonGeraci
@DevonGeraci 8 жыл бұрын
correct me if i am wrong but wouldn't he get a better weld with less splatter if he grounded the metal using the positive side of the batteries and using the negative side with the stick
@justinnelson1565
@justinnelson1565 8 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! I always enjoy your videos, I think(from watching other videos) that you are supposed to use the Negative Terminal as what you're actually welding with(the one with the welding rod) and the Positive Terminal hooked up to the metal of what you're trying to weld. Kind of makes sense, because the electrons are negatively charged and seek the atoms in the positive terminal(since the atoms in the positive terminal are positively charged). If the negative pole is hooked up to the steel, the electrons have to flow through the metal and then into the rod and back out to the positive pole, but if the positive pole is hooked up to the steel, the electrons(flowing from the negative side) will flow through the rod and into the steel, thus concentrating the electrons in a smaller space and creating more heat(a side effect of all the amperage in a concentrated space). :) :) :) Oh! And nice job on the welding!
@consaka1
@consaka1 9 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to have a problem with getting batteries to work well. Another problem you might have had was the moisture content of your rods. If they haven't been kept completely sealed they absorb moisture and perform like crap. I remember my dad putting his in the oven to drive off the moisture. Personally I have only occasionally had the use of large dc welders. Mostly I have had little buzz boxes that work like crap. I much prefer mig welding as a result. Enjoyed the video.
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 9 жыл бұрын
consaka1 Right!! I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that part. You can also make a heat box by using just a 50 watt light bulb
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn't understand why no one else had said anything myself!!
@aldymcpndg14
@aldymcpndg14 Ай бұрын
What type of stick is good for this set up?
@chriss4365
@chriss4365 5 жыл бұрын
How many batteries do you need to weld with brass rods?
@GodWasAnAlien
@GodWasAnAlien 6 жыл бұрын
Thought you used the positive lead as the ground cable, thus the term electro-negative DC arc welding
@athoslong1580
@athoslong1580 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I couldn't see the rod type but it kinda looked like 7018, it is a fast freeze rod. Just chip off/scrap off the oxidized tip after the arc has been extinguished. before restarts. Keep up the great videos! looking forward to more!
@leovanb4201
@leovanb4201 8 жыл бұрын
trying to get the arch just right is difficult and needs some practice .. had the same problem as you wen doing this the first time , took some thick sheet metal and started laying strips of weld , now that i got used to it , it is great. i use it all the time now with three 65 amp batteries in series so 36 volt. works perfect. even made a cart for it .. the only downside is when charging i have to disconnect my link cables on the batteries course i only have an ancient 12v charger. Great video
@12vLife
@12vLife 4 жыл бұрын
How many batteries? What if running your Alternator at same time?
@28704joe
@28704joe 2 жыл бұрын
May I suggest your next project be getting a large magnifying glass and on a sunny day setting an ant colony to blazes.
@centralbears3010
@centralbears3010 4 жыл бұрын
I love it. its called experience. You learn what TO DO and NOT TO DO. Keep Going! We all could use 15 minutes more experience. Again, Keep Going!
@newandoldtech5634
@newandoldtech5634 7 жыл бұрын
At 4:15. Why grab the electrode on the flux? Isnt that less conductive?
@alfama9022
@alfama9022 3 жыл бұрын
That is so cool man!
@sephangelo4603
@sephangelo4603 8 жыл бұрын
You should connect a rewounded microwave oven transformer (even a transformer from a really old 110 volt AC buzz box) between a positive terminal and the stinger to stabilize DC current. That way, you can run 6010/7018 rods as smoothly as a brand name AC/DC stick or inverter welder. I didn't know what the hell a choke was, but then I realized that chokes and transformers are the same thing and they both produce alternating current, but for some reason, they can stabilize direct current produced by batteries or bridge rectifiers. Other than that, I would like to use Christmas lights in a series to control current.
@anpatron4439
@anpatron4439 5 жыл бұрын
Υep! (and 'some reason' is called 'inductance' )
@icuppu2
@icuppu2 8 жыл бұрын
On your next video show how a plasma cutter can be used with the 48 volt setup. A carbon stick will work best instead of a thick weld stick. Also, keep in mind that the electrons flow out of the negative and back into the positive, so I believe you had the polarity wrong, which is why you were getting so much splatter, and not only for the over voltage. The best combination is the matching of battery CCA, age, Ah, and hooking them up in parallel for increased capacity, and another two in series for 24 volts. Also, use thinner welding rod, and especially warm them up first. Place them in the exhaust pipe with the engine running for a few minutes. The flux will behave better and give you better control. Lastly, never touch the work piece with the rod, always strike at it as if you are striking a match The momentum will prevent the sticking, especially if you you have the positive on the electrode and not on the work piece. Question: were your batteries fully charged before you started? It would have been nice to see the state of charge with a voltmeter reading first. That was great how you increased the voltage for the difference of effect on thin pipe. Great job!
@wolfmantrucker1541
@wolfmantrucker1541 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@themaritimegirl
@themaritimegirl 10 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! If you can replace the jumper cables connecting the batteries together with some short, thick metal bars, you should get quite a bit more power.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
maybe, but i'm getting enough amps. its just volts i'm lacking. remember that copper is like 5 times more conductive than iron. so these 10 guage wires would be the same as like a 2cmx2cm steel rod.
@MYNICEEV
@MYNICEEV 10 жыл бұрын
Great video and looks a lot of fun. Your welding is far better than mine was last year. It took me 3 days and 14 rods to weld 3 pieces of 1x1inch box section together. It was only an eighth inch thick. Looking forward to next video. 190.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
yeah I think my MIG welder is far better than this. with MIG I usually don't even worry about removing paint or rust. one thing I may add to this stick welding setup if I use it more is a foot pedal. so I dont get the rod stuck and burn my wires up.
@MYNICEEV
@MYNICEEV 10 жыл бұрын
MiG good welder. I think foot pedal idea is a good one.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
Raymond Earle you where wanting to build a MIG a while back right? now i'm curious too.
@MYNICEEV
@MYNICEEV 10 жыл бұрын
Yes. Upcoming project.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
Raymond Earle nice.
@bendotwood
@bendotwood 7 жыл бұрын
why are you clamping the flux not the bare wire end?
@10223220
@10223220 7 жыл бұрын
Try switching the leads around and you shouldn't weld on galvanized pipe but looks like you are giving it a good try
@raymondn0519
@raymondn0519 8 жыл бұрын
I can smell burning galvanized metal just watching this
@usmanusman-wh8mj
@usmanusman-wh8mj 6 жыл бұрын
Tambah nemen ae cak.. kate marai ngeletno kawat las ta?
@goodpositivelove
@goodpositivelove 7 жыл бұрын
That was Excellent!!
@MongrelShark
@MongrelShark 10 жыл бұрын
I can confirm most of your problems are from lack of MMA/stick experience... Was looking best at 24v, you need to practice starting your arcs. Going way to fast and not steady enough. With big gap. Where those rods cold and wet? I cringed when I saw you put them on the bench with the snow.... Wet rods will be hard to start and splatter lots. 30-60 min in an oven at 100-120c would do them wonders. Or as you kind of did by accident, the farmers trick of sticking them on for a few secs to pre heat. Which doesn't really dry the flux or steel well... Hot rods are easier to weld with though. Lowers the hydrogen content. the 36 and 48 v welds looked too hot. even though the arc was short. Your arc gap should be close to your stick diameter. Also what polarity was the electrode? It makes a big difference. Neg electrode for easier stating and hotter weld. Ie thick stuff. Pos electrode is cooler arc, but harder to start. Good for experienced welders on thin sheet. Those rods are way too thick for the tube you started with. Rod should be half the thickness of the material your welding. Perfect for the second bit of square section. You'll never get a good arc or weld without grinding the rust off either. An open wind coil of fence wire on a form can serve as a good variable resistor, by moving the jumper up and down the coils... 2-3 ohms can make a big difference. The 36v hole is a classic example of an almost good weld with too much heat. Moving faster, less amps, or shorter arc could have avoided that. You need to let the flux do the flowing... Its ok to go ahead a bit and let the metal cool slightly. The main mistake on the first (good) weld was direction of stick. The heat was checked with short arc, but you had it pointed too much at the thinner metal. Always direct the heat to the thick piece. Let the flux heat the thin bit. Especially when thin is down and gravity will help. I'm still learning myself, but thats my 2 cents. This page is an exelent guide. The videos with sound are top notch. www.mig-welding.co.uk/arc-tutorial.htm
@MongrelShark
@MongrelShark 10 жыл бұрын
***** Hanging on to the electrodes is usually a bad idea.....
@MongrelShark
@MongrelShark 10 жыл бұрын
LOL, hold my beer and watch this....
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
Mongrel Shark i don't think you realise that i was trying to cut through the metal instead of weld it the first few times. something like this i can't really learn much from people. i needa just experiment on my own. not counting i am not relying on this welding. just playing around like always. oh and lastly wikipedia says the oposite of you, it and several other places i've read says positive electrode makes it hotter.
@MongrelShark
@MongrelShark 10 жыл бұрын
I could have the electrode thing ass about.... Wikipedia is crap for welding. Better info in that link I sent you. Watch the videos! I'm like you and need to just do it and make a big mess till I get it right, but that site helped me understand the variables a lot. Welding is 10% theroy and 90% practice. But practice gets you no where if you dont get the theroy. Its like trying to understand a circuit with no meters. I'm totally self taught from the migweld uk site... Was doing pretty much everything wrong, much like you did here. Then I spent about an hour going through the arc welding section, and now I do pretty good. Same for tig. All I did was blow holes and get electrodes and rods stuck, then I watched the video and went straight to doing half decent welds.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
Mongrel Shark well there is no right or wrong way to do anything, just different ways that bring different results.
@harlar1
@harlar1 6 жыл бұрын
we all started off in the beginning and it was a cool experiment i mean freezing cool welding in the cold something i learned was to heat up your welding rods up to 120 f makes it much easier to strike
@marscobras8281
@marscobras8281 9 жыл бұрын
you need to use the positive termainal as a ground
@franciscrow762
@franciscrow762 9 жыл бұрын
What about a parallel circuit? Perhaps with a couple of copper tubes used as cummuter bars?
@colinsphoneemail
@colinsphoneemail 8 жыл бұрын
You'll get a cleaner and better weld if you reverse it.. supposed to use negative weld. put the positive to the substrate and hook up the welding rod to the negative.. it works better.
@josearnaldopinheirodossant7712
@josearnaldopinheirodossant7712 5 жыл бұрын
Is very good to keep the stick very dry, always !
@kennethwasserstrom
@kennethwasserstrom 2 жыл бұрын
Question...the cost of batteries, jumper cables, and alligator clips, and sticks totaled???
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 2 жыл бұрын
Cost me about 15$.
@andrewlorona7360
@andrewlorona7360 8 жыл бұрын
Not done correctly, but interesting to see all the problems you have when its done wrong. Ended up with at least one good looking weld in the end. Zinc fumes are pretty bad. Overheated some molten zinc in my furnace once. Not recommended.
@Mudracer41
@Mudracer41 6 жыл бұрын
You should use POS for the ground and NEG for the stinger. When DC welding, POS ground is much smoother with less spatter.
@nickjaxe
@nickjaxe 9 жыл бұрын
I think thats brill...I think if your rods have been a smaller size the results would have been better...but I get the idea....never realized it was possible.... Nice jobs thanks for uploading...keep up the good work. Nick in the UK.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 9 жыл бұрын
yeah i actually stopped using my MIG when i found 1/16th inch rods work great with 3 batteries. i've used those batteries to weld a lot over the past year. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9mpfrid376qZYk.html
@ElectronicsRandomness
@ElectronicsRandomness 10 жыл бұрын
Nice idea! Ilike this vedio very much and I will try this and actually i will try to buy a proper welder like your one's
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
thanks. I would recommend a flux cored mig welder. flux core doesn't require cylinders of shielding gas. and you can get a really nice mig from rural king. also if you want to weld with car batteries. you want as many batteries in series as possible. the higher than voltage the longer the welding arc will be. that means the rod will get stuck less I think. I'd like to try like 8 batteries in series someday. I could put stuff across the electrodes kapow haha.
@briansmith3934
@briansmith3934 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video thanks. I was wondering if 36 to 48volts would be better. Now I know to stick with 24 volts.
@davidjames1063
@davidjames1063 11 ай бұрын
24 volts will spot, or tack only. Higher voltage required to sustain that arc. Just tried it using 2 12v 500a batteries in series, using short, heavy guage cables, with 1/16" 6011 rod. Getting another for 36 volts. Guage 0 cables, connected direct using crimped copper eyelets. I learned about this 40 years ago, from an old WW2 Ship builder. They used 2ea 24 volt submarine batteries, rated at 2000a+ each.
@whatever11ization
@whatever11ization 9 жыл бұрын
I love the effort mate, Ive always enjoyed working out impossible solutions to technical problems and i have done my fair share of wrong repairs to keep the gears turning. I know there will be alot of criticism to what you are doing, which will mostly be technically correct, and i know you probably will ignore most of it, but i have to try and point out things unnoticed. There were some tricks to last ditch welding that can save you alot of trouble; There is no war between series and parallel, use both, im sure you can figure out how A welding rod is of the same basic nature as a resistor, changes in length change the nature of the welding action, you can take advantage of this Welding is a hot process, ice cold steel assemblies can weld more easily if you take the time to preheat the work, you could have welded well with one battery if you had everything already hot enough (rather hard but you can) Welding is a dry process, moisture will make weak welds Lots of sparks are pretty and should be involved in fireworks, not welding Electrons have more important things to do with their time and enjoy efficiency, their minimum use lends to better welds i cant think of anything else i can tell you that i think you will at least consider, which is good in its own way, have fun and keep up the great videos
@maximilianmustermann8172
@maximilianmustermann8172 10 жыл бұрын
I like those welding videos :)
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
:D
@ongphuong7679
@ongphuong7679 10 жыл бұрын
Great, first time I know that can cause arc welding with DC current from the cars Battery !
@mainevilleprepper4885
@mainevilleprepper4885 9 жыл бұрын
Your sticking is due to the fact that you don't have the last part of the welding rod in the holder. If you look there will be some bare rod with no flux. There is where you put the rod in the rod holder. Not like you see in the old movies.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 9 жыл бұрын
yes i connect it to the bare rod. you wouldnt be able to weld without that. and the reason why i was sticking was the welding rods where too big. i've found 1/16th rods work great. and what old movies are you talking about?
@ioanvictor6826
@ioanvictor6826 9 жыл бұрын
you tried with Li-Ion batteries?
@daniboy19822001
@daniboy19822001 8 жыл бұрын
i know this is an old video. I've seen this done plenty of times, except the negative was used with the electrode and the positive connected to what's being welded. less splatter. try it and let me know how it works.
@uchihasurvival
@uchihasurvival 8 жыл бұрын
How do you recharge them, once they run out of juice?
@DormantIdeasNIQ
@DormantIdeasNIQ 3 жыл бұрын
you bend over and say! Battery! please rejuice lol you DONK!
@KansanWolf
@KansanWolf 7 жыл бұрын
Good job trying things out! "Stick" with it - LOL!!!
@ronpoddig6499
@ronpoddig6499 7 жыл бұрын
his dad should take ALL of his welding equipment!
@MARANATA333
@MARANATA333 6 жыл бұрын
Would this damage the batteries ?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 6 жыл бұрын
maybe
@davidhenderson3400
@davidhenderson3400 6 жыл бұрын
I had to this this one time at a mill I worked at. I used a 48 volt electric forklift battery. It had an open top so I could tap it at different voltages to control my power. 2 volts per cell so it made controlling the easy. Just remember car batteries (lead acid batteries) vent hydrogen.
@TheMoneypresident
@TheMoneypresident 10 жыл бұрын
the Winchester mansion is there. Always wanted to see that. Husrt castle is another on my list of things to see.
@ramanverma2914
@ramanverma2914 7 жыл бұрын
it can safe ?if the rod weld with matel 2-3 second the battery can explode?it dangerous.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 7 жыл бұрын
do you also worry that starting your car will explode the battery?
@tiaizzy3342
@tiaizzy3342 7 жыл бұрын
"issues you may see me have in this video" hmmm ALOT!!! lol
@arklanbk
@arklanbk 9 жыл бұрын
if 48v is blowing holes in 8th inch steel then i wonder how the traction pack in my ev would go 150v 100ah id be able to weld U beams together
@sn0wchyld
@sn0wchyld 9 жыл бұрын
arklanbk lol 15kw at 1C... you'll do more than weld u beams together.
@meir0n
@meir0n 10 жыл бұрын
nice vid, you just taught me some survival skills. -) just out of curiosity, from your experience with car batteries, what would you say is the best brand?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
i just go with the cheapest. but my duralast battery lasted 22 years
@meir0n
@meir0n 10 жыл бұрын
Rinoa Super-Genius well, you know how to fix estore the battery, like your vid with the salt, me not so very much, so every 2 years i say goodbye to 150 200$. to bad your not my neighbor ;-) thank you.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
***** well that duralast battery was my great grandparents for like 13 years then it sat on my back deck uncharged for several more years until I started messing with it. so its not like I was able to maintain it from the start. but now we shall see how long the batteries I have that are new will last.
@brianthestovie
@brianthestovie 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Rinoa, we call stick welding Arc welding this side of the pond, the first electro welding invented. You have done a dam good job of welding with car batteries, being as there is little control with the power for the right gauge of metal. Arc welding like all welding takes practice to master the technique, the last time I had a go at it was in metal work class at school and that's going back a bit LOL. If memory serves me right, we started off striking it on the surface about 45 degrees and then holding it a few mm's cant remember how far, so it Arc's hence arc welding I have never tried any other welding Mig tig etc then most I have done was oxy acetylene welding and that's at school
@brianthestovie
@brianthestovie 10 жыл бұрын
Rinoa Super-Genius Hey Rinoa, that's made me laugh about your neighbour, I never knew you got scrap heap challenge over in the US, I used to love watching it. I often wondered, how you use some of the words which like blowlamp, which I have only heard American people call it blowtorch, I have never heard a American call there vehicle a car and they all ways pronounce aluminium much different. To be honest I often wondered if you and family were originaly from the UK but emigrated to the US, but did not like to mention it in case you took offence LOL
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
brianthestovie wow really? thats pretty nice of a compliment. yeah tbh i just can't stand this country too much. atleast the media and the people. pretty much every american show is garbage except for Modern Marvels and Mythbusters. we ditched TV in 2008 couse it just wasnt watchable. hell even the american version of scrapheap challenge called "junkyard wars" went horribly bad after the first 2 seasons. everything has to be a reality show now. not counting i get tired of the "murican pride" that so many people blindly have. when i was like 8 we went to switzerland and i liked it a lot. i think it would be cool to move too anotehr country. especially the UK. if i ever decided to go to a university i'd go to Nottingham uni. or maybe i will visit there anyway someday just to talk to prof Martyn Polliakoff. you could prolly call me a Europhile. oh and wanna know something else stupid about the US? (other than Texas i mean) the us government still hasn't allowed the sale of LED car headlights in the US. because they say LEDs are an untested technology....... *facepalm* >_< sorry for ranting.
@brianthestovie
@brianthestovie 10 жыл бұрын
Rinoa Super-Genius that's the world over not just in the USA we all have some dam stupid laws that a re wrapped in red tape, i must admit I have never sadly been to the USA but hopefully one day when money is ok I will there is so much different types of and the size, take new York for instance new York a lot of people over here probably think its a fair bit bigger than London and its all like times square and where the chrysler building and empire state building is downtown but it probly the size of England by the way the art deco Chrysler building,it is one of my favourite buildings I have seen in pics and read about if ever I get to the USA or Manhattan that is one building I must visit
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
brianthestovie yeah new york would prolly be worth seeing. you know the gateway arch in St Louis? i licked that when i was 10. tasted kinda bitter and metalic. another place in the US i'd like to see is the mountains and stuff over west. oh and the deserts in like Nevada. quite frankly i just don't get out of my area of the world much or see anybody outside of work and family. it'd be cool to go on vacation and explore or something.
@fanman1981
@fanman1981 10 жыл бұрын
I saw one guy do This using only 24v,but using positive clamped on metal and ground jumper cable attached to vise grips to hold stick..but idk if It matters what way you do it...
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon 10 жыл бұрын
some metals prefer it one way, varies on chemistry etc
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
leslie briddon yeah like if your arc welding aluminium, electrode positive looks ok while electrode negative looks like splattered molten aluminium over everything.
@IustinianP
@IustinianP 10 жыл бұрын
Man,you have a lot of snow....In Europe, more exactly ,Romania,we didn't have snow,and neither today,although you may think it's too late :)
@Tomas-js8iq
@Tomas-js8iq 7 жыл бұрын
Thickness of the material and the rods appear to be 7018 which translates to keep them dry additionally a clean work surface will help one maintain and arc using proper arc length.
@welderboy14
@welderboy14 7 жыл бұрын
Keeping 7018 Dry really only comes into affect on Structural Welds, Normal around the shop/yard type stuff it really isn't necessary.
@Hockeyfan9884
@Hockeyfan9884 7 жыл бұрын
What Was Said At 1:49 ???
@timothkeyyprice
@timothkeyyprice 2 жыл бұрын
The "thingy" is a Allen head bolt, and you used an Allen wrench. I have heard that with battery welding, it is best to connect the piece your are welding to the positive, and the rod to the negative. This deposits the metal onto the piece,
@DROY2004
@DROY2004 7 жыл бұрын
Heads up, use 3/32 rod, w/ battery welder, a little hot but not for thicker steel, DC reverse polarity maybe?
@riedkrutz968
@riedkrutz968 7 жыл бұрын
who taught you how to weld wire and stick are almost the same thing
@gbuk97
@gbuk97 4 жыл бұрын
0.27seconds in, i wanna see grandad dumpster dive :) good video
@yanrpopoff2804
@yanrpopoff2804 8 жыл бұрын
for one you should be using the negative for welding easier starting and u should be able to do it with 2 batterys no prob if there charged
@angrylundy4862
@angrylundy4862 8 жыл бұрын
you can do it whit eather positive and negative but it is a 70 30 split of where you wil put your heat
@railbuggy
@railbuggy 10 жыл бұрын
That's quite creative! I never thought of using batteries to weld with but hey they have hundreds of cranking amps so why not! You could recharge them with solar panels if you wanted to.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
thats what i do ^^
@compwiz00
@compwiz00 8 жыл бұрын
You'd probably get better results with better connections -- lots of contact resistance with all of those jumper cable clamps. If you had the cables bolted to the batteries, you wouldn't weld the stick to the workpiece as much.
@davidjames1063
@davidjames1063 11 ай бұрын
Plus his POLARITY was reversed. Needs DC Reverse.
@bennjanse
@bennjanse 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video - thanks for honesty - on 1.5mm rods you can go 24 volt - maybe rods is wet or damp -☺☺☺
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 9 жыл бұрын
i find 36v with 1/16th inch rods will work great weather dry or wet.
@12vLife
@12vLife 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting!!!! I'm on an off grid location with no city power. My van has ONE big 120AH deep cycle starter marine battery. I also I have a 120v 1200 watt inverter. With my van running and the 120A alternator feeding it what are my options for home made welding like this?
@12vLife
@12vLife 2 жыл бұрын
​@@johnvanlandingham8832 LOL.. I experimented with low amp 120v welders and found the a sweet spot where I can weld with my engine running and a 2000 watt inverter.
@BudMasta
@BudMasta 8 жыл бұрын
7018s are low hydrogen rods and you are setting them in the wetness. I dont have OCD or anything but holy sheet. You then weld on galvanized metal, did you feel sick after filming this?
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 8 жыл бұрын
+Bud Masta no, i always weld outside anyway. plus idk if it would be any worse than playing with molten zinc.
@sheiladelaney6706
@sheiladelaney6706 8 жыл бұрын
+Bud Masta I was just about to say same.
@sephangelo4603
@sephangelo4603 8 жыл бұрын
+Bud Masta Zinc fumes aren't a huge problem outdoors and ChuckE2009 proves that 7018s don't need to be dry in order to weld pretty good. Quenching welds in water will more likely result in much weaker welds than welding with a "wet" 7018. Low-hi rods do however need to be used on cleaner metal.
@ashton6478
@ashton6478 5 жыл бұрын
Seph Angelo he didn’t prove shit. Let’s see you run a 3g test and get a 100 with wet rods lmao
@dancahill9122
@dancahill9122 5 жыл бұрын
Funniest damn video I've seen in a while.
@TheMoneypresident
@TheMoneypresident 10 жыл бұрын
mentioned in one reply. It's shorts weather year round here. I am heading up coast for next hospital.rebuild in Santa Cruz.
@mikkolempinen2717
@mikkolempinen2717 Жыл бұрын
Use vise grips for grounding and electrode.
@sarahhoward9081
@sarahhoward9081 5 жыл бұрын
If you can do this with car batteries couldn’t you do this with 4 ac to dc 12 v output power supplies?
@davidbolha
@davidbolha 5 жыл бұрын
Doubtfull. You'd blew fuses. 🤔
@snowwotnosnow
@snowwotnosnow 10 жыл бұрын
Great fun! I think my little AC welder is the one thing I would never lend anyone. It's there, just at the front of the garage ready to run at a moments notice. You never know when you might need to run a quick bead.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
i've never tried AC before i would think it could penetrate better into thicker metal than DC right? but it could be more messy since the voltage is constantly switching. i think if i get better welding rods this 4 battery setup could go a lot easier. maybe i could even build a DIY MiG welder.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
***** yeah it doesnt matter all that much too me about the rods couse they are free so i'll just use them anyway haha. that hot start feature sounds handy.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
***** my grandpa used to use rusted bailing wire and the rust acted as a flux. idk if he was doing MIG or TIG though. i should do some tests with differant ways to weld. like trying to weld aluminium or arcing across a tin can to make a lot of sparks.
@RinoaL
@RinoaL 10 жыл бұрын
***** well i've been pondering building an electric furnace. so parhaps i could try that. or i wonder if it'd be possible to just make the aluminium oxide. that would be a really great thing if i could make that.
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